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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:09 | dcook | Well .in files are templates, so I reckon control is generated from control.in? |
| 00:09 | * dcook | says having never built debian packages |
| 00:12 | dcook | mtompset: https://debathena.mit.edu/packaging/ |
| 00:18 | wizzyrea | mtompset did you need something from me? |
| 00:18 | mtompset | Let me scroll back to the time to figure out... But I do recall looking for you. :) |
| 00:19 | wizzyrea | cool just lmk :) |
| 00:19 | mtompset | Probably related to your comment on a bug.... |
| 00:19 | can't remember the number... | |
| 00:19 | wizzyrea | oh, bug 17234 maybe? |
| 00:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17234 major, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Needs Signoff , ALTER IGNORE TABLE is invalid in mysql 5.7. This breaks updatedatabase.pl |
| 00:19 | mtompset | Yes, that one. |
| 00:20 | If the two functions were moved, then the responsibility would be pushed to QA instead of the RM. | |
| 00:20 | Do you think Koha::Database is a reasonable place to move it to? | |
| 00:21 | wizzyrea | I am not the one to ask about such things as "where subs should go" lol |
| 00:21 | i mean, sounds reasonable? | |
| 00:22 | I would think as a developer, you'd want to write your database updates basically whole | |
| 00:22 | so that there was as small of a chance as possible for mistake making | |
| 00:22 | when the entries were moved | |
| 00:22 | of course our RM's aren't dumb but it never hurts to make things easier for them | |
| 00:23 | what they are, is very busy. | |
| 00:23 | mtompset | Right, and if there are guidelines written about how to write .perl files, which include references to these two functions, then there wouldn't be added pain for them. |
| 00:23 | wizzyrea | yes exactly |
| 00:23 | or an example file just sitting in there to base your update off of | |
| 00:23 | * mtompset | nods. |
| 00:24 | wizzyrea | so git cp atomicupdate.perl.example bug-xxxx-stuff.perl and off you go |
| 00:24 | mtompset | So, the question then is... where would I grab developer consensus as to where those two functions should go? |
| 00:24 | post to koha-develop and see who bites? | |
| 00:24 | wizzyrea | I think joubou will weigh in soon |
| 00:25 | joubu even | |
| 00:25 | mtompset | because right now, the whole react thing is kind of overshadowing. |
| 00:25 | wizzyrea | auē yes |
| 00:26 | best not to get me started on that one ^.^ | |
| 00:26 | I have to run away for a little bit | |
| 00:26 | * mtompset | grins, "Let's make it all HTML 2.0 compliant" :) |
| 00:26 | wizzyrea | bbs |
| 00:26 | * wizzyrea | cries |
| 00:27 | mtompset | -- of hilarity, right? ;) |
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| 00:55 | mtompset | Greetings, khall |
| 01:12 | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea dcook khall | |
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| 06:26 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:26 | makes a mental note of not starting the the day watching donald trump videos | |
| 06:31 | fridolin | hie there |
| 06:33 | magnuse | bonjour fridolin |
| 06:33 | fridolin | bonjour mon ami, preparing the HF ? |
| 06:33 | HackFest | |
| 06:33 | wahanui | HackFest is great fun! |
| 06:33 | fridolin | ah hello old buddy wahanui |
| 06:34 | you are coming too ? ;) | |
| 06:35 | magnuse | i'll be organizinf joanns visit to norway before the hackfest, so that is top of my mind for now |
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| 06:42 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:42 | wahanui | what's up, alex_a |
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| 07:02 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:02 | wahanui | kia ora, reiveune |
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| 07:36 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:36 | wahanui | bonjour, gaetan_B |
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| 08:04 | * magnuse | waves to all the cool people |
| 08:04 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:04 | @wunder marseille | |
| 08:04 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on September 23, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:04 | magnuse: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 16.8°C (10:02 AM CEST on September 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). | |
| 08:04 | magnuse | hah, getting closer |
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| 08:13 | fridolin | magnuse: i've think about you because we have worked on a Sweedish catalogue |
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| 08:14 | fridolin | so i've seen there is a customisation in Zebra : lang_defs/nb |
| 08:15 | we played with some odd characters that are not diactricts : ä, ö ... and the best skandinavish "a" with a ° | |
| 08:24 | magnuse | å |
| 08:24 | :-) | |
| 08:24 | yeah, lots of fun | |
| 08:31 | norway has æ as well | |
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| 08:34 | liw | some people have œ too |
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| 08:49 | eythian | here the fanciest is ij |
| 08:52 | magnuse | pft... |
| 09:05 | eythian | I know, I þink we should bring back þorn. |
| 09:26 | * cait | waves |
| 09:27 | * ashimema_ | hides |
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| 11:44 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 11:54 | eythian | hi oleonard |
| 11:54 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
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| 12:45 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:46 | kidclamp | morning tcohen |
| 12:46 | rsantellan | morning |
| 12:47 | tcohen | hey kidclamp |
| 12:47 | wahanui | kidclamp is the vm savior today! |
| 12:47 | tcohen | rsantellan: hello |
| 12:47 | wahanui | privet, tcohen |
| 12:47 | tcohen | kidclamp: nice pics! |
| 12:48 | kidclamp | thanks, denver was fun! |
| 12:48 | always nice to see people in real life, so excited for marseille too | |
| 12:48 | tcohen | YAY! |
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| 13:07 | gaetan_B | oops, big plack question |
| 13:07 | how is changing parameters and sysprefs handled ? | |
| 13:07 | tcohen | it works fine in master |
| 13:07 | with the packages | |
| 13:07 | gaetan_B | do we have to restart starman manually ? |
| 13:08 | tcohen | sysprefs are supposed to be flushed on each request |
| 13:08 | gaetan_B | ok |
| 13:08 | tcohen | look at plack.psgi |
| 13:08 | /etc/koha/plack.psgi | |
| 13:08 | but I usually restart memcached | |
| 13:13 | are you using the packageS? | |
| 13:13 | which version, gaetan_B? | |
| 13:14 | gaetan_B | ok i think something was wrong on the setup on our side :) |
| 13:14 | we're not using the packages (yet) although i am very much in favour of us moving towards using them | |
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| 13:36 | magnuse | packages++ |
| 13:36 | @karma packages | |
| 13:36 | huginn | magnuse: Karma for "packages" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
| 13:36 | rsantellan | tcohen: is there any documentation or test about the difference between using plack or not? |
| 13:37 | tcohen | have you weared a ball and chain? |
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| 13:38 | tcohen | rsantellan: ? |
| 13:39 | rsantellan | nop, but I believe you can go really fast if the ball is free falling :) |
| 13:39 | tcohen | you are using a ball and chain but just didn't notice, you are used to it |
| 13:39 | try Plack and let us know | |
| 13:40 | how does it feel, that freedom | |
| 13:40 | rsantellan | my problem is that I have to justify to an IT guy why the change |
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| 13:41 | tcohen | 'massive speed improvement' should be a good argument |
| 13:42 | rsantellan | is there any test cases about that |
| 13:43 | doing the job of the devils advocate.... | |
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| 14:01 | oleonard | rsantellan: I think the problem is that it's not typical for anyone here to have to "sell" the idea of Plack |
| 14:02 | rsantellan: So nobody has test cases, charts, and graphs to present | |
| 14:02 | rsantellan: Although I see how it puts you in a difficult situation. | |
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| 14:07 | rsantellan | oleanard: I will create some test with the performance differences with and without plack and put them on the wiki. It will take me a while but there going to be my "selling" pitch :) |
| 14:08 | eythian | you'll find it'll shave roughly 1 second off each request, but sometimes more, sometimes less. |
| 14:08 | (obviously depends on your local setup too.) | |
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| 14:14 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu you restored memcached into koha-conf.xml, but didn't patch koha-conf.xml* |
| 14:14 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:38 | tcohen | 11921 |
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| 14:42 | mtompset_web | Greetings, #koha. |
| 14:42 | tcohen | greetings mtompset_web |
| 14:42 | mtompset_web | Greetings, tcohen. |
| 14:42 | I'm curious. | |
| 14:42 | The BWS Kitchen sink plugin... | |
| 14:43 | Who is going to fix that? | |
| 14:43 | # Error: Can't locate C4/Branch.pm in @INC (you may need to install the C4::Branch module) (@INC contains: /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D8/blib/arch /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D8/blib/lib /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D8 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.20.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20 /usr/share/perl | |
| 14:43 | tcohen | mtompset_web: you know how to play this game |
| 14:43 | you have to 'fill a bug' | |
| 14:43 | hehe | |
| 14:43 | mtompset_web | Just asking, because it's a PLUGIN, and not Koha core code. :P |
| 14:44 | tcohen | yes, but it has its own issue tracker, doesn't it? |
| 14:44 | mtompset_web | That I do not know. Good idea to check for that. |
| 14:45 | tcohen | https://github.com/bywatersolu[…]ugin-kitchen-sink |
| 14:47 | mtompset_web | ... /issues. :P |
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| 14:48 | tcohen | hey, I have to leave you something to do |
| 14:50 | * mtompset_web | grins at tcohen, "Of course." |
| 14:51 | mtompset_web | Where is the mayhem, CrispyBran_CausingMayhemInBugz? |
| 15:02 | tcohen | mtompset_web: 15541 might be unnessesary (however it is written LOL) |
| 15:03 | because of bug 17318 | |
| 15:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17318 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make 'Normalization rule' configurable on matchpoint definition |
| 15:04 | mtompset_web | Good point. |
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| 15:16 | tcohen | hi mario |
| 15:16 | mario | hi tcohen |
| 15:18 | mtompset_web | Have the bug wranglers been checking if things marked as enh are just enhancements? Because the whole default to enhancement is a pain in bugzilla. Sometimes I forget to change/check it. |
| 15:19 | tcohen: I just tried to git bz apply 17318. It needs a rebase. | |
| 15:19 | tcohen | did u git bz apply its dependencies |
| 15:19 | ? | |
| 15:20 | mtompset_web | Good question. There are none listed. |
| 15:20 | tcohen | oh, sorry for that |
| 15:20 | just a sec | |
| 15:20 | mtompset_web | Oh I see. Mentioned, but not tagged. |
| 15:22 | tcohen | done |
| 15:23 | mtompset_web | Thanks. I'll try again. :) |
| 15:23 | tcohen | please, succeed |
| 15:23 | it is friday! | |
| 15:24 | mtompset_web | There we go! |
| 15:27 | tcohen | later #koha |
| 15:27 | asado at the house buildplace! | |
| 15:27 | mtompset_web | Take care, tcohen |
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| 15:32 | drojf | evening |
| 15:32 | mtompset_web | Good day (24 hour period), drojf :) |
| 15:37 | drojf | hi mtompset_web |
| 15:38 | thanks for testing the patch! | |
| 15:41 | mtompset_web | drojf: Which patch? |
| 15:41 | wahanui | Which patch is that? |
| 15:41 | drojf | anyone using coce in production? |
| 15:42 | mtompset_web | Sorry, not using coce. |
| 15:42 | drojf | mtompset_web: some üackaging thing |
| 15:42 | p | |
| 15:42 | mtompset_web | Ah right. |
| 15:42 | drojf: there was a follow up on bug 17111 | |
| 15:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17111 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, ASSIGNED , Automatic debian/control updates (oldstable) |
| 15:42 | mtompset_web | which said you were going to deal with something. |
| 15:43 | So I didn't sign 17111 off, because I figure the other one should be signed off first, and this one would just become that perl line I quoted. | |
| 15:43 | oleonard | drojf: We are |
| 15:44 | drojf | mtompset_web: i will generate it and then we see :) |
| 15:44 | oleonard: howdoes it work is it great tellmeeverything about it ;) | |
| 15:45 | the real question is, can i mix multiple sources, like amazon and local | |
| 15:45 | oleonard | I can't answer the local question because we don't use local cover images |
| 15:46 | mtompset_web | I do remember turning on everything coverwise once... some of them didn't play nice together. |
| 15:46 | drojf | train coming, not sure if there will be wifi |
| 15:46 | oleonard | mtompset_web: Coce is a system designed to handle multiple for you |
| 15:46 | drojf | hm not my train |
| 15:47 | oleonard: yes i found it (again) when i looked at the multiple sources bug | |
| 15:47 | mtompset_web | Yes, but I'm just a programmer, pulling buttons and tweaking settings. That would require research or documentation. :P |
| 15:47 | drojf | mtompset_web: mtthat is what i remember |
| 15:47 | oleonard | drojf: We are still trying to iron out some issues with mixed-content warnings because of non-ssl stuff from Amazon, but I think it can be solved. |
| 15:48 | mtompset_web | oleonard: I'm pretty sure I signed off on some SSL Amazon bugs a while back. |
| 15:48 | drojf | ohthat is a problem there? i guessit works differently than i thought |
| 15:49 | right train, brb maybe | |
| 15:51 | oleonard | mtompset_web: Those are unrelated to Coce |
| 15:52 | mtompset_web | Oh, Coce pushes back non-SSL? |
| 15:52 | oleonard | It did, then it got fixed, but the cache of resources in our system still contains out of date non-SSL links. |
| 16:13 | mtompset_web | oleonard: Oh joy. |
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| 16:19 | * LibMonk | slaps LibMonk around a bit with a large fishbot |
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| 16:19 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:27 | mtompset_web | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha oleonard rocio CrispyBran |
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| 17:13 | oleonard | have a good weekend #koha |
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| 17:36 | eythian | wahanui: bye oleonard is <reply>bye oleopard |
| 17:36 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
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| 19:54 | CrispyBran | Hey kidclamp! |
| 19:54 | wahanui | i heard kidclamp was a stealthy spy from the realm of mutant turtles. |
| 19:55 | CrispyBran | ??? |
| 19:55 | kidclamp | I like it |
| 19:55 | what's up CrispyBran? | |
| 19:55 | wahanui++ | |
| 19:55 | CrispyBran | Just sayin hi. |
| 19:55 | * kidclamp | waves |
| 19:56 | CrispyBran | Been creating more work for everyone today. |
| 19:56 | kidclamp | heh |
| 19:56 | uncovering bugs? | |
| 19:56 | CrispyBran | Uh, sorta. |
| 19:58 | kidclamp | well..keep it up ;-) |
| 19:58 | have a good night all | |
| 19:59 | CrispyBran | I reported 17150 last month. Today I broke it up into small enhancements/bugs. |
| 19:59 | Have a good one kidclamp | |
| 19:59 | kidclamp | |
| 19:59 | wahanui | kidclamp is a stealthy spy from the realm of mutant turtles. |
| 19:59 | CrispyBran | :) |
| 19:59 | kidclamp | wahanui: botsnack |
| 19:59 | wahanui | :) |
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| 20:11 | rsantellan | have a good weekend #koha |
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| 20:39 | tcohen | hi |
| 20:39 | wahanui | hello, tcohen |
| 20:39 | tcohen | rangi: thanks for signing! |
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| 21:08 | tcohen | dcook: around? |
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| 21:54 | rocio | back |
| 22:37 | tcohen | hi rocio |
| 22:37 | rocio | hi! |
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