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05:16 | DCS | Hello all. |
05:16 | Anyone around help point a poor lost sheep in the right direction on fixing my Zebra? :) | |
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05:20 | DCS | Hi cait |
05:20 | cait | hi DCS |
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05:21 | DCS | I don't suppose you'd happen to know anything about fixing zebra indexing? I've been hitting a wall and figured I'd stop in here for advice on which way to go. :) |
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05:54 | * Oak | waves |
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06:04 | mtj | hi DCS, did you install koha using the debian packages? |
06:10 | DCS | yes, I did |
06:11 | I can paste in some details... give me a sec and I'll use the paste.koha-c... link, if I can get that to work | |
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06:18 | tee | i need help on fine |
06:18 | my overdue fines is not calculated at all | |
06:19 | tried to upgrade to 3.22.8 but no luck | |
06:19 | can someone help | |
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06:23 | pastebot | "DCS" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Zebra Issue" (98 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/42 |
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06:25 | DCS | I'm basically trying to get pointed in the right direction - I've tried a full server reinstall from the ground up, which duplicated the problem. I'm guessing it is something in the migration I am trying to do, but I'm not sure how to troubleshoot |
06:28 | I just double checked - looks like my old server was at 3.16, and the new one is running 16.05... so something in there may not have migrated well | |
06:28 | I suppose I could either try finding 3.16 to install on the new server or upgrade the old one prior to migration, if you think that might be the issue.... | |
06:32 | hey tee - would love to help, but I'm no expert. Did you try the usual google searches first? I turned up this parameter you might want to check on: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pub[…]March/017456.html | |
06:33 | tee | all those things are done |
06:33 | even ran fines.pl script manually | |
06:33 | but no idea why is it nt working | |
06:44 | DCS | FYI, mtj (or whoever is reading), I tried a quick test of downgrading to 3.22 and that didn't seem to fix things, at least not that I could see. |
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06:45 | mtj | DCS: -> https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=13396 |
06:45 | huginn | 04Bug 13396: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, koha-rebuild-zebra: Couldn't open collection.abs error after 3.18 package update |
06:46 | mtj | DCS: what i would do is create a new koha instance, and load your db dump into that |
06:48 | ..if you compare/diff that new koha dir to your existing upgraded dir, you will spot some small differences | |
06:51 | DCS: i think your old 3.16 koha-conf.xml file is missing some newer stuff | |
06:52 | tee, did you install koha using the debian packages? | |
06:52 | tee | yes |
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07:02 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:02 | wahanui | bonjour, alex_a |
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07:21 | mtj | tee, you can confirm that your fines script is running daily by checking /var/log/auth.log* files |
07:22 | ..then you need to check your circ rules to make sure your item(s) is overdue, as expected | |
07:23 | tee | it is showing overdue items |
07:23 | but fines is shown as 0.00 | |
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07:24 | mtj | are you sure you have a fine set for that itemtype? |
07:25 | tee | yes |
07:25 | mtj | btw, i suggest you use a non-production koha instance to test fines |
07:25 | tee | i tried that as well |
07:25 | fridolin | hie |
07:25 | tee | on both same issue |
07:25 | my auth.log says | |
07:26 | Jul 25 02:55:17 deepali sudo: root : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/ ; USER=library-koha ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl | |
07:26 | mtj | looks ok tee ^ |
07:26 | tee | then wht should i check |
07:29 | mtj | hmm, you have some bug with your config, i think |
07:29 | tee | is there any way i can find out the issue |
07:30 | morgane | hi ! |
07:30 | mtj | set yout grace period to 0 days tee |
07:31 | set your return date to 1 year ago | |
07:31 | tee | that is to zero only |
07:31 | mtj | perhaps delete your accountlines table, on your test system? |
07:32 | tee | from mysql is it |
07:32 | mtj | ..run the script, then check accountlines table again |
07:33 | its been some time since i debugged a fines problem - sorry | |
07:33 | tee | k |
07:34 | mtj | aah. the 'finesMode' syspref.. |
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07:36 | mtj | ..try 'Calculate' , or 'Calculate and charge' |
07:37 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]on.html#finesMode | |
07:37 | tee | done tht too |
07:37 | mtj | you can run the fines script with a --verbose arg |
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07:38 | mtj | ..and a --log arg too, those should be helpful |
07:38 | marcelr | hi #koha |
07:39 | * mtj | waves to fridolin, morgane, marcelr :) |
07:39 | marcelr | hi mtj |
07:41 | mtj | tee, ' CircControl' syspref looks important too |
07:41 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…].html#CircControl | |
07:43 | fridolin | hie mtj |
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07:43 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:50 | morgane | hi mtj :) |
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08:07 | DCS | hmm... well, I've moved on to new errors... I'll poke around a bit more, but at least I have some motion forward.... I have 36 records exported, but still not getting anything through opac.... having a bit of trouble connecting with yaz to confirm - can't seem to find the right socket or maybe something is still missing or wrong in a config file. getting a bit late at night though, so I'll have to tackle it again in the morning. Thank |
08:21 | eythian | hi |
08:21 | wahanui | hey, eythian |
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08:38 | drojf | morning #koha |
08:45 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
08:45 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 26.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on July 25, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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10:09 | drojf | hello again |
10:16 | eythian | you would say that |
10:22 | drojf | hi eythian |
10:22 | eythian | g'day |
10:23 | drojf | holiday times around here? |
10:23 | * drojf | wants holiday |
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10:27 | eythian | you should talk to your boss |
10:30 | Joubu | marcelr: around? |
10:30 | marcelr | yes Joubu |
10:30 | drojf | eythian: he said i have to work all summer |
10:30 | which is a good thing, altogether ;) | |
10:31 | eythian | drojf: he sounds like a bit of a jerk really :) surely you need a trip to Amsterdam at some stage? |
10:31 | Joubu | Hi marcelr! Could you please detail why you do not want to move the last patch of bug 16878 to its own bug report? |
10:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16878 is not accessible. |
10:31 | liw | [off?] I visited the University of Helsinki main library today. It is quite pretty inside. If any of you visit Helsinki ever, you should look in there. |
10:31 | marcelr | What is the problem? |
10:31 | wahanui | https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg |
10:31 | drojf | eythian: i definitely want to do that |
10:32 | i hear it's a nice city | |
10:32 | Joubu | marcelr: I just think it's 2 different things: 1 is a security fix, the other one is a missing deps |
10:32 | eythian | today is very grey. Yesterday I actually got a little bit sunburnt. So, I make no promises :) |
10:32 | @wunder ams | |
10:32 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 19.7°C (12:31 PM CEST on July 25, 2016). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
10:33 | drojf | we have all the summer here atm |
10:33 | marcelr | Joubu: since you keep insisting, i will move it away :) |
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10:36 | Joubu | marcelr: If you don't think it's useful, let it there. I just try to avoid future problems |
10:36 | marcelr | bug 16971 |
10:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16971 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Missing dependency for HTML::Entities |
10:36 | Joubu | thx |
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10:59 | vfernandes | hi #koha |
10:59 | Koha uses CAS authentication without force authentication right? | |
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11:45 | LibraryClaire | afternoon #koha |
11:46 | drojf | hi LibraryClaire :) |
11:48 | fridolin | vfernandes: hie, what do you mean by 'force authentication' ? if cas is on, a user can still use auth form |
11:48 | LibraryClaire | hi drojf |
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11:52 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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11:55 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
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12:24 | * cait | waves |
12:25 | * LibraryClaire | waves back |
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12:31 | oleonard | No package for libsereal-perl? |
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12:32 | cait | does it backport? |
12:32 | the dadditional patch? | |
12:32 | drojf | it's in testing |
12:32 | cait | ah... scrolling broken, that was actually for marcelr's and Joubu's discussion... |
12:32 | drojf | hi cait |
12:32 | and oleonard | |
12:32 | wahanui | i think oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
12:32 | cait | hi drojf |
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12:32 | marcelr | hi cait |
12:32 | drojf | oleonard: bug nr? |
12:33 | oleonard | Bug 16715 |
12:33 | wahanui | it has been said that Bug 16715 is passed qa |
12:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Koha::Cache - Use Sereal for serialization |
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12:34 | nengard | morning all |
12:38 | marcelr | hi nengard |
12:39 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
12:39 | oleonard | What is the recommended method for getting libsereal-perl? Staff client is broken in master without it. |
12:39 | marcelr | oleonard: cpanm ? |
12:42 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
12:42 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 26.7°C (2:41 PM CEST on July 25, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
12:42 | cait | feels warmer |
12:42 | LibraryClaire | @wunder LCY |
12:42 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 23.0°C (1:20 PM BST on July 25, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
12:42 | drojf | oleonard: i can look into backporting later. in general it would not hurt if people mentioned that is necessary when they add stuff. i don't have much bug tracker time at the moment so i won't just find it all by accident |
12:43 | eythian | everywhere has sold out of plug-in insect repellents. This is a problem, as mosquitos have discovered where I live. |
12:43 | drojf | eythian: get a cat |
12:43 | marcelr | drojf: you could send that reminder again on the ml (and have qaers help you too :) |
12:43 | eythian | drojf: how does a cat help? |
12:44 | LibraryClaire | eythian: get a spider |
12:44 | drojf | it will either hunt the mosquitos or provide comfort when you've been bitten |
12:44 | marcelr | eythian: klamboe ? |
12:45 | drojf | don't get a spider before i visit |
12:45 | eythian | I saw one in my bedroom the other day, it doesn't seem to be a very good hunter though. |
12:45 | oleonard | Should we not have a procedure for making packages available *before* the patch gets pushed to master? |
12:45 | drojf | because otherwise i won't :P |
12:45 | eythian | marcelr: that'd be a fun option :) |
12:45 | marcelr | oleonard: it happens every now and then agian |
12:45 | again | |
12:45 | drojf | oleonard: yes that would be a very good idea |
12:48 | oleonard: a manual way could be that devs looks if stuff they use is available, and mention if it's not. and then send me wine or sweets and add me to the bug | |
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12:50 | marcelr | drojf: make them send wine and sweets to qa too, and you have a new coding guideline |
12:50 | drojf | marcelr: deal! |
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12:53 | cait | drojf: make a saved search for keyword dependency too |
12:54 | i always mark everything i find with that that adds new dependencies | |
12:54 | drojf | oh cool, i did not know |
12:54 | cait | sorry for that :) |
12:54 | drojf | cait++ |
12:55 | cait | you might want to put yourself cc on those in batch maybe |
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12:55 | cait | and we can try to add you on new ones as they appear |
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13:07 | vfernandes | fridolin: i have two applications using the same CAS server |
13:07 | fridolin | vfernandes: yep its the purpose of a CAS ;) |
13:08 | vfernandes | when I logout on the other application than Koha, I'm logging out of CAS |
13:08 | but the Koha session is still ative | |
13:08 | *active | |
13:09 | checking the Koha code, when I enter Koha with CAS a session cookie is created | |
13:10 | Koha always uses that session cookie to check if the user is authorized to access some script | |
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13:11 | vfernandes | that session cookie isn't removed when logging out from CAS in other application |
13:19 | fridolin | vfernandes: mmm this is too much for me, i'd say its normal but i'm not sure |
13:20 | matts: is the CAS expert ^ | |
13:21 | matts | vfernandes, seems like a bug to me. |
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13:26 | drojf | cait: how do you add a keyword to the list? |
13:26 | cait: i'd like to have something like "nowheezy" to mark things that won't work | |
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13:29 | mveron | Hi #koha |
13:29 | vfernandes | thanks fridolin... matts: maybe I should fill a bug for that |
13:29 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
13:29 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 26.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on July 25, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
13:29 | Joubu | mveron: ha, good timing :) |
13:29 | mveron | Hi Joubu |
13:30 | Joubu | mveron: did not you fix something like "Fatal: unexpected operator 'cancellationdate' with undef operand" |
13:30 | I don't find the bug number! | |
13:30 | it happens when I confirm a hold on checkin | |
13:30 | cait | drojf: i think only rangi can do that- I am lacking permissions |
13:31 | mveron | Joubu: I will dig in my bugs.. |
13:31 | matts | vfernandes, yes, I think you should! |
13:31 | drojf | hi mveron |
13:31 | fridolin | vfernandes: yep indeed, open a bug |
13:31 | mveron | hi drojf |
13:31 | drojf | cait: ok |
13:31 | vfernandes | phpCAS client has something called forceAuthentication |
13:31 | https://wiki.jasig.org/display[…]C/phpCAS+examples | |
13:31 | drojf | @later tell rangi can we have a BZ keyword 'nowheezy' to mark patches that won't work there? |
13:31 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
13:32 | vfernandes | that method should be called in every PHP file to check if the ticket is still valid |
13:32 | eythian | @later tell rangi actually, make that keyword "breathesfine" |
13:32 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
13:33 | vfernandes | phpCAS has also a method to handle CAS logout requests - phpCAS::handleLogoutRequests(); |
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13:40 | Joubu | mveron: bug16942 |
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13:40 | Joubu | mveron: bug 16942 |
13:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16942 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Confirm hold results in ugly error |
13:40 | Joubu | was hard to find! |
13:40 | mveron | Joubu: You were faster ... |
13:40 | Joubu | mveron: it was not you :) |
13:41 | khall: could you have a look please? | |
13:41 | mveron | Jobou: not always... |
13:41 | :-) | |
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13:57 | tcohen | hola #koha |
13:57 | nengard | hola! |
14:00 | LibraryClaire | hi tcohen |
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14:01 | tcohen | hey LibraryClaire nengard |
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14:11 | tcohen | is anyone having weird logouts every time on 3.22? |
14:15 | drojf | define weird |
14:16 | tcohen | too frecquently |
14:23 | Joubu | define too frecquently |
14:23 | (:d) | |
14:23 | tcohen | every two or three clicks |
14:24 | after an upgrade | |
14:24 | to a new server | |
14:24 | sessions deleted | |
14:24 | Joubu | same code? |
14:24 | wahanui | well, same code is still in master |
14:24 | tcohen | (before deleting the browser¿s cache it was all broken of course) |
14:24 | 3.20 -> 3.22 | |
14:25 | ah | |
14:25 | Joubu | ah? |
14:25 | wahanui | it has been said that ah is ? |
14:25 | tcohen | is it possible that memcache's memory is completely filled? |
14:25 | Joubu | outch |
14:26 | the default value is something like 64mo I think | |
14:26 | since we caching more and more stuffs (and big) in it, maybe | |
14:26 | but I have really no idea what the size of stuffs we cache | |
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14:27 | Joubu | tcohen: I guess you already tried to restart it |
14:27 | * tcohen | is grabbing memcache-top |
14:55 | tcohen | Wide character in print at /usr/share/perl5/CGI/Session/Driver/file.pm line 118. |
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15:08 | tcohen | @seen marcelr |
15:08 | huginn | tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 17 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <marcelr> drojf: make them send wine and sweets to qa too, and you have a new coding guideline |
15:10 | tcohen | @later tell marcelr users are reporting (and I confirmed in 2 instances) that cover image upload is not working under plack |
15:10 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
15:13 | Joubu | tcohen: bug 16886? |
15:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16886 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , 'Upload patron images' tool is not plack safe |
15:13 | Joubu | no |
15:14 | tcohen | well, maybe similar on upload.pl |
15:15 | Joubu | tcohen: did you open a bug? |
15:16 | tcohen | Joubu: not yet |
15:16 | i'm dealing with users being kicked out now | |
15:19 | morgane | bye ! |
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15:21 | tcohen | Joubu: this is interesting |
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15:22 | tcohen | [Mon Jul 25 12:20:29 2016] starman: Wide character in print at /usr/share/perl5/CGI/Session/Driver/file.pm line 118. |
15:22 | it is supposed to be using Memcached for storing sessions | |
15:22 | Joubu | I guess it's because it has not been correctly init |
15:24 | tcohen | Joubu: sounds correct |
15:25 | LibraryClaire | laters #koha |
15:42 | tcohen | Joubu: i moved session storage to mysql, restarted memcached, and plack |
15:42 | and no more users kicked out | |
15:43 | Joubu | weird |
15:43 | tcohen: it did not work by just restarting memcached+plack? | |
15:44 | tcohen | nope |
15:44 | Joubu | did you try to extend the memcached memory allocated? |
15:46 | tcohen | yes |
15:46 | 512 MB | |
15:46 | but only 120kb are used | |
15:46 | my fear is that the caching changes cherry-picked for 3.22 broke memcached usage in Context.pm | |
15:47 | Joubu | Someone else would have noticed it |
15:49 | tcohen | Joubu: I know |
15:50 | I guess most levae the sessionStorage syspref as default | |
15:50 | Joubu | heh, I use sessionStorage as well |
15:50 | =mysql | |
15:56 | tcohen: looks ok for me (memcached+3.22), but I do not get the wide char warning | |
16:01 | lari | jajm: i'm having trouble with patron REST tests (t/db_dependent/api/v1/patrons.t) not cleaning borrowers table after testing in master. holds.t does not have same problem |
16:01 | seems that if the test does authentication ($t->request_ok($tx) with CGISESSID set), $dbh->rollback is ineffective. | |
16:03 | Joubu | lari: please open a bug report, and link it to the original one |
16:04 | lari: master does not have the problem, sure? | |
16:04 | lari | Joubu: can u run patrons.t and see if it also happens for you? |
16:04 | Joubu | looking at git diff, the file has not changed since it's pushed |
16:05 | t/db_dependent/api/v1/patrons.t .. Can't open file "definitions/index.json": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Swagger2.pm line 363. | |
16:06 | forget my question, misread | |
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16:35 | * drojf | heads home |
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17:02 | * mveron | heads to dinner |
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17:14 | DCS | Hey folks - just checking back with the resolution. Thanks to mtj, I narrowed down my issue to a conf file problem. Rather than trying to track down all the different files that were wrong (there were several, between koha and zebra), I reverted back to the stock debian+koha before adding any libraries. Then, I created a new library and only copied over the database directly into sql, without using koha-restore. |
17:15 | Then, I updated the mysql password and the matching koha config file password. I'm sure I may be missing one or two other configuration tweaks that I'll have to adjust, but at least I'm running again with zebra functional. | |
17:16 | Anyhow, thanks so much for getting me pointed in the right direction. I'm sure if I had a bit better unix-fu I would have been able to force koha-restore to do what I wanted, but overall this seems to have worked for my needs. | |
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17:52 | Joubu | Please note: Your loan renewal failed because of the following reason(s): You have renewed this item the maximum number of times allowed. You have renewed this item the maximum number of times allowed. You have renewed this item the maximum number of times allowed. |
17:52 | ok ok ok, I think I understood! | |
17:52 | drojf | better read it again! |
17:53 | does it display the message the number of times you renewed the item? :D | |
17:53 | Joubu | yes |
17:53 | no | |
17:53 | tcohen | drojf: is Sereal packaged? |
17:54 | *do you know if...* | |
17:54 | drojf | tcohen: encoder and decoder are |
17:54 | Joubu | I have renewed 3 items |
17:54 | drojf | not the wrapper thing |
17:54 | Joubu: ah ok | |
17:54 | tcohen: the wrapper is in testing | |
17:55 | but we don't need it i thinl | |
17:55 | think | |
17:55 | tcohen: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=16715#c23 | |
17:55 | huginn | 04Bug 16715: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Koha::Cache - Use Sereal for serialization |
17:56 | Joubu | drojf: I'll try to provide a patch tomorrow |
17:56 | tcohen | https://snag.gy/o09wvm.jpg |
17:56 | drojf | Joubu++ |
17:56 | Joubu | s/try to// |
17:57 | tcohen | ah, right, thanks drojf! |
17:57 | Joubu | did we remove the checkboxes on the checkouts table at the OPAC? |
17:57 | "Nothing has been selected. Check the box for each item you want to renew" | |
17:57 | but where are the checkboxes!? | |
17:58 | cait | oh i have seen that |
17:58 | is there a renewable item? | |
17:59 | Joubu | no |
17:59 | cait | i think than the issue is that you shoudn't see the rnew message at all |
17:59 | then | |
17:59 | try if they appear if something can be renewed | |
18:01 | Joubu | indeed, I see them now |
18:01 | I expected the checkbox at the beginning of the line actually | |
18:02 | cait | ah yeah |
18:02 | my mistake too | |
18:02 | i think i even filed a bug for it and oleonard retested it | |
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18:04 | Joubu | actually there is a bug, the "renew all" should not renew not renewable checkouts |
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18:24 | tcohen | drojf: bug 16138 |
18:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16138 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Restart plack when rotating logfiles |
18:24 | tcohen | no |
18:24 | wrong # | |
18:24 | bug 16974 | |
18:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16974 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-plack should check and fix log files permissions |
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18:51 | tcohen | Joubu: around? |
18:52 | Joubu: i'm not able to reproduce on current master (kohadevbox) but I am able on 3.22 | |
18:54 | talking about 16886 | |
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19:52 | LibraryClaire | evening #koha |
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20:37 | rangi | good morning |
20:37 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
20:37 | rangi | happy security day |
20:37 | https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3628 | |
20:37 | i think koha is safe but we should check | |
20:39 | Plugins potentially | |
20:42 | will file a bug and submit a patch | |
20:43 | @later tell drojf done | |
20:43 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
21:06 | * cait | waves |
21:06 | rangi | done |
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22:20 | TGoat | Hey #koha can anyone point me to a Koha accessibilty document besides the one in the wiki? Also, does Koha follow DOM? Thanks :) |
22:24 | cait | are you sure you mean DOM? |
22:24 | the DOM i am thinking is probably not what you meant | |
22:24 | TGoat | I think so cait. It was a question that came from someone interested in Koha |
22:25 | Document Object Model | |
22:25 | cait | it's not a stanard or anything |
22:25 | TGoat | so maybe they were just reaching |
22:25 | cait | you can manipulate the DOM with something like jquery |
22:26 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]ment_Object_Model | |
22:27 | rangi | the web browser creates the DOM |
22:27 | we don't write web browsers | |
22:27 | TGoat | cait I have a UNiversity that sent me a VPAT - Voluntary Product Accessibility Template and asked a few questions in a confcall. I'm responding but finding limited info on accessibilty. If you have anything it'll help |
22:28 | cait | there is not much official |
22:28 | TGoat | yeh, that's what I'm gathering |
22:28 | looks like it 3rd party SW like Jaws and what's built into the browser | |
22:28 | cait | ? |
22:29 | depending on the help you need there are different tools available like screen readers, braille lines | |
22:29 | etc. | |
22:30 | TGoat | true, the OS utilities and 3rd party SW |
22:30 | cait | but you don't need anything in koha to have it work with them |
22:30 | just following general rules and web stndards | |
22:30 | TGoat | right on.. thanks for the input cait greatly appreciated |
22:30 | cait | well maybe a bit more |
22:42 | wizzyrea | we have someone here at catalyst who has looked over the OPAC with a screen reader and found it not terrible to use. |
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22:49 | drojf | rangi: thanks! |
22:49 | good night everyone | |
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23:56 | irma | Pydio file sharing : questions and answers |
23:56 | https://docs.google.com/spread[…]rh52uM/edit#gid=0 |
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