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| 01:50 | jcamins | @later tell wizzyrea Boil watermelon long enough, and it will taste like candied sweet potato. It's very peculiar. |
| 01:50 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:53 | wizzyrea | that sounds interesting |
| 01:53 | what compelled you to find this out? | |
| 01:54 | jcamins | Watermelon was inexpensive. |
| 01:54 | wizzyrea | but why boil it? |
| 01:54 | jcamins | Watermelon syrup for cookies! |
| 01:54 | Naturally. Why else? :P | |
| 01:54 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 01:55 | my first reaction was | |
| 01:55 | "naturally!" | |
| 01:55 | o/*HIGHFIVE*\o | |
| 01:55 | jcamins | o/ |
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| 06:09 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 06:40 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 06:49 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:27 | fridolin | hie |
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| 07:54 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
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| 08:28 | LibraryClaire | @wunder LCY |
| 08:28 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 18.0°C (9:20 AM BST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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| 08:36 | atheia | G'morning! |
| 08:38 | LibraryClaire | morning atheia :) |
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| 09:21 | asgeirr | After having created at MARC framework, is there any way I can make this my preferred framework? When I copy catalogue via Z39.50, the default framework is chosen unless I actively choose to use my new framework |
| 09:33 | drojf | asgeirr: you can choose a framework when you hit the right side of the import via z39.50 button |
| 09:34 | asgeirr: if you want to change the behaviour of the import button itself, you could probably do that with jquery | |
| 09:34 | i don't think there is a syspref to set it (may be wrong) | |
| 09:49 | is it just me, or is it not possible to delete intranetuserjs? it does not want to save if i clear the field | |
| 09:50 | asgeirr | drojf, thanks for your reply. I know I can choose it from the dropdown. I was wondering if there was any way it would be preferred without making the cataloguer make this choice every time. |
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| 10:18 | drojf | asgeirr: you can do that with jquery. if there is an easier way i don't know it |
| 10:24 | pastebot | "drojf" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "asgeirr: change default z3950 import server" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/14 |
| 10:25 | drojf | asgeirr: something like that ^ there are probably several ways to do it |
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| 11:15 | drojf | hi again |
| 11:17 | eythian | hi drojf |
| 11:17 | @wunder ams | |
| 11:17 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 16.3°C (1:13 PM CEST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:18 | eythian | It's official, summer was on Sunday |
| 11:18 | drojf | lol |
| 11:18 | was it good? | |
| 11:18 | eythian | I was at a beer festival, so yeah |
| 11:18 | drojf | great timing! |
| 11:18 | "2016 i spent all summer at a beer festival" is a cool thing to say | |
| 11:19 | eythian | yep, it looked a bit risky a few days out. |
| 11:19 | haha | |
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| 11:21 | drojf | rangi protected his twitter account. bad luck for lurkers without a proper account :/ |
| 11:21 | now i miss all the secrets | |
| 11:47 | LibraryClaire | @wunder LCY |
| 11:47 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 19.0°C (12:20 PM BST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:47 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 11:47 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 25.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
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| 11:54 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:55 | druthb | Hi, oleonard. |
| 11:55 | drojf | druthb! |
| 11:55 | hi oleonard | |
| 11:55 | druthb | drojf! :D |
| 11:56 | @wunder 77098 | |
| 11:56 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 27.7°C (6:53 AM CDT on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT this evening... |
| 11:56 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
| 11:57 | * oleonard | wishes druthb happy air conditioning today |
| 11:58 | druthb | :) Gonna be toasty here. With the humidity, it'll feel like up near 110F by mid-afternoon. |
| 11:58 | oleonard | We had a rainy Fourth yesterday, but I'll take that over blazing hot any time |
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| 11:59 | druthb | yeah. It was wicked hot here, all weekend. |
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| 12:26 | oleonard | When the $Price template plugin is used, should the currency symbol be displayed? |
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| 12:56 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 12:57 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 12:58 | tcohen | hey drojf |
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| 13:22 | * tcohen | hopes US friends had great time on their independence day holiday |
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| 13:31 | mveron | Good afternoon / daytime #koha |
| 13:50 | drojf | hi mveron |
| 13:50 | mveron | hi drojf |
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| 14:10 | mveron | @later tell Joubu : Test plan of Bug 16849 needs clarification (should a restriction prevent discharges?) |
| 14:10 | huginn | mveron: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:19 | bag | morning |
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| 16:03 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 16:25 | TGoat | hey #koha - can anyone tell me if a library currently using RFID can use the RFID UID in place of a barcode for an item? The library I'm speaking with doesn't want to use or create barcodes anymore and would like to consolidate down to just the RFID UID and not worry about adding barcodes anymore |
| 16:26 | druthb | I would think so, TGoat, if the readers can handle that and treat 'em as if they were barcodes. |
| 16:26 | TGoat | thank you druthb! |
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| 16:59 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:58 | kidclamp | sql access |
| 17:59 | stupid mouse drift | |
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| 18:53 | tcohen | anyone to talk about logging? |
| 18:55 | nengard | logging is good ;) |
| 18:55 | tcohen | it seems to me that every place we log stuff |
| 18:55 | we log (on the info field) the old thing | |
| 18:55 | so, logging happens before the action takes place | |
| 18:55 | * kidclamp | only dresses like a lumberjack, is not a logger |
| 18:56 | tcohen | on logging holds |
| 18:56 | does it hold' | |
| 18:56 | ? | |
| 18:56 | :-D | |
| 18:58 | nengard | hmmmm |
| 18:59 | that's a good question ... | |
| 18:59 | I kind of wish it logged the before and the after on all logs | |
| 18:59 | but for holds - the before is 'not on hold' so what are you logging? | |
| 18:59 | for patrons we log 'adding' | |
| 18:59 | and for catlaoging and items too | |
| 18:59 | tcohen | nengard: |
| 18:59 | nengard | we log the addition of an item - so could it be the addition of a hold |
| 18:59 | tcohen | in that case, you would log the creation |
| 18:59 | that's not the case i'm thinking of | |
| 19:00 | kidclamp | what case tcohen? |
| 19:00 | tcohen | i was looking at ModReserve |
| 19:00 | which (of course) modifies a reserve | |
| 19:00 | nengard | oh |
| 19:00 | hmmm | |
| 19:00 | tcohen | you pass several params, what to change |
| 19:00 | nengard | again i'd like to see the old and the new - i want to know that it used to be pick up at library b and now it's pick up at library a |
| 19:01 | tcohen | ok |
| 19:01 | kidclamp | I think you'd have to log the whole thing (or all the fields it can affect) or log the hold as is and all parameters passed in |
| 19:02 | pianohacker | diff is easy to calculate for a basic hashref, that would be great for the logs |
| 19:02 | tcohen | ModBiblio puts something like BEFORE=> |
| 19:02 | pianohacker++ | |
| 19:03 | do we have some lib for that already? | |
| 19:07 | pianohacker | hmm |
| 19:09 | tcohen | how does the import diff work? |
| 19:18 | barton | tcohen: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=798088 |
| 19:20 | tcohen | the import does it using a js lib |
| 19:20 | barton | oh nevermind, that's doing a 'qx' |
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| 19:26 | pianohacker | yeah |
| 19:26 | tcohen | DBIx should have something |
| 19:26 | it knows the dirty values | |
| 19:26 | pianohacker | tcohen: hashref could be as simple as %new{grep {$old{$_} ne $new{$_}} keys %new} |
| 19:27 | tcohen | -.- |
| 19:29 | pianohacker | whaaaat |
| 19:29 | don't perl at me in that tone of voice | |
| 19:31 | tcohen | hahahaa |
| 19:42 | barton | my new goal in life is to get pianhacker to say that to me. |
| 19:42 | *pianohacker. | |
| 19:43 | pianohacker | oh, I have confidence you'll find a way |
| 19:43 | * barton | would be even more impressed if -.- was valid perl. |
| 19:45 | pianohacker | in perl 6 everything can find a waaaay |
| 19:45 | concatenates the set difference of two strings or some nonsense | |
| 19:45 | tcohen | hahahahahahahaha |
| 19:47 | * tcohen | leaves the oneliner as plan b, tries Text::Diff for now |
| 19:58 | tcohen | later #koha |
| 20:03 | agoforth | I'm working on migrating a library from a different ILS to Koha and I want to migrate the current fines and the checkout history for each patron. Is there a way to do that through the "official" import methods (like the "Import patrons" tool), or should I just write some Perl and/or SQL to insert them into the database? |
| 20:04 | pianohacker | I don't think there's an official method for fines or checkout history... DB insertion is your best bet |
| 20:04 | agoforth: one thing; if you're inserting into old_issues, you'll need to reset auto_increment on the issues table | |
| 20:08 | agoforth | What should it be reset to? |
| 20:09 | You mean reset the auto-increment counter on issue_id to 1? | |
| 20:13 | As an alternative strategy, would it make sense to call AddIssue() and AddReturn() for each checkout and let Koha handle the details of the database? | |
| 20:13 | pianohacker | agoforth: too many moving parts for too little benefits |
| 20:14 | agoforth: reset it to whatever the highest issue_id is in old_issues, plus 1 | |
| 20:14 | agoforth | Okay, that makes sense. |
| 20:17 | Are there any other tables or gotchas I need to be aware of, or can I just insert into accountlines for the fines and issues and old_issues for the current and historical checkouts? | |
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| 20:34 | eythian | You can just add, it's how I always did it. The structure can get fiddly but isn't terrible. |
| 20:55 | agoforth | Cool, thanks a lot for your help pianohacker and eythian. I appreciate it. |
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