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| 01:31 | wizzyrea | hi dcook |
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| 01:56 | dcook | heya wizzyrea :) |
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| 06:22 | drojf | morning #koha |
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| 06:49 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:49 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
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| 06:52 | fridolin | hie |
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| 07:13 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:13 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:13 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:13 | magnuse | w00t! |
| 07:25 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 07:25 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 22.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on June 30, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:36 | LibraryClaire | hi #koha |
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| 07:38 | drojf | hi LibraryClaire |
| 07:38 | LibraryClaire | hi drojf |
| 07:39 | * cait | waves |
| 07:39 | LibraryClaire | hi cait |
| 07:45 | marcelr | hi LibraryClaire cait drojf |
| 07:45 | magnuse: | |
| 07:45 | drojf | hi marcelr and cait |
| 07:45 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 07:46 | * magnuse | waves at all the cool people |
| 07:47 | LibraryClaire | hi marcelr |
| 07:49 | eythian | hi |
| 08:00 | magnuse | kia ora eythian |
| 08:00 | eythian | hello magnuse |
| 08:02 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
| 08:19 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 08:19 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 15.6°C (10:11 AM CEST on June 30, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:21 | eythian | I wonder if anyone would really notice if I just went home to watch TV. (Also, I have a shiny new TV I want to play with. Need to find some 3D blurays to see how they go.) |
| 08:22 | drojf | eythian: only one way to find out |
| 08:22 | magnuse | what he said |
| 08:24 | weird, on my prod server i have a couple sites that have been running under plack for a while, without any complaints. i added another couple the other day, and here the librarians are thrown out with a "session expired" error every now and then, and apparently always when trying to delete an item | |
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| 08:26 | magnuse | i do not get thrown out when deleting items, but at other random times |
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| 08:26 | magnuse | same behaviour before and after upgrade 3.22.7 -> 16.05.01 |
| 08:26 | all sites use memcached, including for storing sessions | |
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| 08:36 | magnuse | also, the logged-in-branch-name shows with garbled æøå |
| 08:37 | turning off plack makes the logging out go away, so it is deffo plack-related | |
| 08:51 | cait | hm the sesseion storage setting is the same for both? |
| 08:53 | wizzycray | Can't locate object method "clear_syspref_L1_cache" via package "C4::Context" at /etc/koha/sites/hlt/plack.psgi line 51. has anyone spotted this on on 3.22.8? |
| 08:53 | with plack | |
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| 09:02 | cait | we are nto there yet |
| 09:02 | wizzycray | ? |
| 09:02 | cait | maybe drojf or magnuse? |
| 09:02 | wizzycray: no installations with plack and that versions here | |
| 09:02 | wizzycray | oh gotya |
| 09:03 | it rather looks like there's a mismatch between my plack.psgi and the canonical one for 3.22.8 | |
| 09:03 | i mean maybe? idk. | |
| 09:04 | drojf | wizzycray: where did you get it? or in general? |
| 09:04 | wizzycray | in general |
| 09:05 | opac was where I noticed it | |
| 09:05 | admt not trying theintranet | |
| 09:05 | admit* even | |
| 09:05 | the error was in the plack log | |
| 09:05 | drojf | hm no have not seen it. i will have a look later, but i think i already upgrades koha with plack to 3.22.8 |
| 09:05 | *upgraded | |
| 09:10 | wizzycray | yeah wow, it was a mismatch in my plack config |
| 09:11 | this will sound like a dumb question, it is I admit... | |
| 09:11 | are the plack.psgi configs supposed to be updated when you install a new version of Koha? the one in /etc/koha/sites/instance/ | |
| 09:11 | wahanui | Hmm. No matches for that, wizzycray. |
| 09:13 | wizzycray | because ermmm mine weren't |
| 09:13 | and it exploded rather spectacularly | |
| 09:17 | drojf | wizzycray: i don't know, but it may be the case that it just does not expect plack to be enabled manually before. i just turned it on when it was in koha |
| 09:17 | which would not be nice, but possible | |
| 09:18 | wizzycray | well... i'm trying to think, maybe it only generates that file when plack is enabled? I dunno I'd have to test it |
| 09:18 | this one, plack was running before the upgrade | |
| 09:19 | an upgrade from 3.22.05 to 3.22.08 should not be this dramatic >.< | |
| 09:19 | drojf | no it really shouldn't |
| 09:19 | that sounds weird. and wrong | |
| 09:22 | wizzycray | well, it's working now so yay |
| 09:24 | drojf | but if that explodes for everyone that had their own config… :/ |
| 09:24 | wizzycray | well I don't think (but I don't know!) if there was something special about it or whether it was just not updated because it was in /etc and generally speaking, we don't update files in /etc/koha/sites/instance/ |
| 09:25 | generally because maybe there are exceptions and I don't know about it | |
| 09:25 | I wish i had all the time in the world to understand exactly how every bit works >.< | |
| 09:27 | drojf | heh. i know that feeling |
| 09:37 | wizzycray | thank you for your attention drojf :) always better to troubleshoot with a friend |
| 09:38 | with my problems sorted, I'm away to fun time now. :) | |
| 09:38 | drojf | i want fun time too |
| 09:39 | oh i have, working on koha :D | |
| 09:41 | magnuse | yay! |
| 09:42 | i just went from 3.22.7 to 16.05.01, so i dunno about 3.22.8 | |
| 09:43 | psgi files in /etc/koha/sites/instance/ are probably not updated, i think the only one koha knows about is the genera one in /etc/koha/plack.psgi | |
| 09:43 | cait: yes, session storage is the same for all instances | |
| 09:44 | cait | ah, was only an idea |
| 09:55 | magnuse | timeout is the default too |
| 09:58 | * magnuse | takes it to the mailing list |
| 10:15 | magnuse | oh neat, now i am thrown out with every step i take... |
| 10:17 | nothing interesting in the logs | |
| 10:18 | restarting plack seems to have fixed that - not thrown out with every click | |
| 10:18 | oh well, lunchtime | |
| 10:18 | wahanui | hmmm... lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting |
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| 11:42 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:43 | marcelr | hi oleonard |
| 11:44 | * cait | waves |
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| 11:56 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
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| 12:37 | oleonard | I do not like that patron search can fail because of bad data creating invalid JSON. |
| 12:38 | It should not be that fragile | |
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| 13:00 | oleonard | Is there any particular reason why there isn't a tool in the staff client for exporting patrons? |
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| 13:08 | kidclamp | oleonard: because no one asked for it? and you can use reports? |
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| 13:18 | nengard | oleonard we need that tool!!! |
| 13:18 | let's get it written :) hehe | |
| 13:19 | oleonard | kidclamp: Using reports requires that you keep your SQL up to date with changes to the database |
| 13:20 | kidclamp | true, I was more positing that as a reason no one sponsored a development :-) |
| 13:21 | oleonard | Of course the patron import tool is so brittle it's probably a lost cause anyway |
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| 14:10 | druthb | magnuse: read something somewhat startling the other day, and wanted to see what you knew about it...you around? |
| 14:20 | eythian | http://www.nltimes.nl/2016/06/[…]e-ministers-bike/ <-- crime is out of control here |
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| 15:07 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:10 | magnuse | druthb_away: am now |
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| 16:40 | pianohacker | Joubu: so, to clarify, is bug 14757 ready to push or no? |
| 16:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Allow the use of Template Toolkit syntax for slips and notices |
| 16:41 | cait | pianohacker: might be too late - maybe send an email? |
| 16:41 | or note on the bug :) | |
| 16:45 | magnuse | @seen Joubu |
| 16:45 | huginn | magnuse: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <Joubu> tcohen: is it a question? :) |
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| 17:01 | magnuse | gah. one of my libraries can't save transport types on the "Overdue notice/status triggers" page |
| 17:02 | Delay and Letter save fine, but not Restrict, Email etc | |
| 17:02 | anyone else seen that? | |
| 17:03 | oh, Restrict saves, but not Email, Print and SMS | |
| 17:06 | when saving there is a blue box that says "INPUT SAVED" | |
| 17:06 | cait | there was an email on the mailingl ist about this |
| 17:06 | are you sure the update ran fine? | |
| 17:06 | magnuse | but that is a lie! a blatant lie, i tell you! |
| 17:07 | cait | http://permalink.gmane.org/gma[…]p.misc.koha/41240 |
| 17:07 | magnuse | this 3.22.7, they have not been updated a lot |
| 17:07 | cait | hmm |
| 17:07 | did you check the logs? | |
| 17:07 | maybe a mysql error showing | |
| 17:08 | magnuse | nope, not in the intranet-error.log at least |
| 17:11 | cait | did you fill in the delay correctly? |
| 17:11 | <0? | |
| 17:11 | hm >0 | |
| 17:11 | ah.. you said you did | |
| 17:11 | i would compare the database structure - the tables | |
| 17:15 | magnuse | yeah, i tried to look at the db but maybe not enough |
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| 17:25 | magnuse | ah yes there was something odd about the db. no idea how that happened, but fixed now |
| 17:25 | cait++ | |
| 17:29 | cait | magnuse++ |
| 17:32 | bye all | |
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| 17:37 | jrm | question, whats the difference between the 2 reports " All bibs without items" and " Records without items"? |
| 17:43 | oleonard | jrm: Are those in the SQL reports library? |
| 17:44 | I see: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ibs_without_items | |
| 17:44 | jrm: Only the output is different. The latter has links to the OPAC and staff client. | |
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| 17:50 | oleonard | jrm: Did you see my reply? |
| 17:50 | jrm | i just read the logs to catch up, thank you |
| 17:51 | oleonard | You're welcome. |
| 17:51 | jrm | unfortunately I'm on the production server now which is ubuntu 14.04 and there is no support for our cannon printer in linux. so if someone needs to print while im working on here, i need to reboot into windows |
| 17:52 | so another question then, whats the purpose of the links to the opac and staff client? | |
| 17:53 | oleonard | jrm: So you can see the details of those records, I assume. |
| 17:54 | jrm: The reports in the SQL library are all written by different people for different reasons. | |
| 17:54 | jrm | i just ran it to see the difference, got it! |
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| 18:05 | jrm | im pretty new to sql and all of this, im pulling up a duplicate report, how would i separate the 2 biblio numbers in the first column into 2 separate columns? |
| 18:05 | nengard | not sure you can ... that's why we wrote it the way we did - cause it could be 2 or it could be 30 |
| 18:05 | I might be wrong | |
| 18:06 | oleonard | I agree with nengard, but I'm not an SQL wizard. |
| 18:46 | jrm | i've got this fiurged out now, I can use a custom separator and then after run it and save it, in libre office I can split the column later. I need to delete the list of duplicates but keep one of the numbers in the list |
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| 19:10 | cbrannon | When adding an item in the default framework, 952 a and b default to your branch, but when using the fast cataloging framework, 952 a defaults to the top of the list. I also notice these fields are labeled differently from the default framework. Can anyone confirm these for me before I file a bug? |
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| 21:13 | rangi | oh god |
| 21:13 | can someone with advice that isnt actually horrible answer that OS upgrade mail, or the poor person will follow paul A advice | |
| 21:13 | and i just dont have the energy | |
| 21:13 | kidclamp | lololol |
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| 21:27 | wizzyrea | magnuse: I ended up at least getting the thing up and running again, and rangi finished it off. And now I know a new thing about plack instances |
| 21:28 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSpWI7nGs1Q <-- i cant stop watching this |
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| 21:36 | * wizzyrea | doesn't begin to understand, but likes it all the same |
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| 22:16 | Dyrcona | rangi: Powerful... Is it a lament or a warning? |
| 22:17 | rangi | lament, its about the land wars in the 1860s |
| 22:18 | * cait | waves |
| 22:18 | Dyrcona | rangi: Thanks. |
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