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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:08 | dcook | wizzycray: Yeah, lots to do here, especially with the baby.. |
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| 00:51 | wizzycray | florent++ \o/ |
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| 01:54 | dcook | bug 16575 |
| 01:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16575 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Irregular behaviour using window.print() followed by window.location.href= |
| 01:54 | dcook | @seen papa |
| 01:54 | huginn | dcook: papa was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 8 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <papa> eythian: maybe time to go to bed? |
| 01:54 | dcook | nearly 4 weeks, eh? |
| 01:58 | mtj | hiya dcook, hope all is well in babyland, over there.. :0) |
| 01:58 | Francesca joined #koha | |
| 01:59 | papa | hey hi there |
| 01:59 | wahanui | bonjour, papa |
| 02:00 | dcook | hey, papa. thanks for that sign off :) |
| 02:00 | heya mtj :) | |
| 02:00 | papa | bonjour monsieur |
| 02:00 | my pleasure | |
| 02:01 | tcohen | hi dcook |
| 02:01 | :D | |
| 02:01 | dcook | hey tcohen :) |
| 02:02 | tcohen: And what timezone are you in atm? :p | |
| 02:02 | tcohen | how's that dad-life doing? |
| 02:02 | i'm in argenitna | |
| 02:02 | so, GMT-3 | |
| 02:02 | America/Argentina/Cordoba | |
| 02:02 | ^^^ that's my tz | |
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| 02:04 | talljoy | morning! |
| 02:04 | jetlag-- | |
| 02:10 | tcohen | hi talljoy! |
| 02:10 | talljoy | hi tchohen |
| 02:10 | blarg | |
| 02:10 | tcohen | |
| 02:10 | tcohen | you shouldn't give bag wine when he's about to type version numbers |
| 02:10 | :-P | |
| 02:11 | talljoy: so you have your hair long? | |
| 02:11 | talljoy | not too long. but longer than it was in Argentina. |
| 02:11 | it was pretty short then. | |
| 02:11 | tcohen | heh |
| 02:13 | dcook | tcohen: Wasn't sure if you were in greece or not! |
| 02:13 | * dcook | is so jealous of talljoy's photos |
| 02:13 | * tcohen | too |
| 02:13 | dcook | I was just in Greece in 2014, but wish I was there again.. |
| 02:13 | I missed Kohacon14 for Greece actually :p | |
| 02:13 | now I missed Kohacon16 for... baby? | |
| 02:13 | * dcook | supposes he can't complain |
| 02:13 | talljoy | ikr. |
| 02:13 | really. babies. | |
| 02:13 | heh | |
| 02:14 | dcook | Baaabiiiies! |
| 02:14 | talljoy | :D |
| 02:14 | dcook | I wonder if Ripley has outgrown their Koha onesie... |
| 02:14 | talljoy | how many months old now? |
| 02:14 | dcook | Mmm a bit over 3 |
| 02:14 | They look huge though | |
| 02:15 | talljoy | okay. yes, they grow fast that first year. right tcohen? |
| 02:15 | dcook | I think they were 97th percentile for height at birth O_O |
| 02:15 | Tall and skinny like their dad :) | |
| 02:15 | talljoy | wow! |
| 02:15 | dcook | Hopefully not too tall.. I think I'm 6'2" and I struggle with legroom on planes :p |
| 02:16 | talljoy | then expect a tall teenager. they will be taller than you in about 14 years! |
| 02:16 | and yes. planes are the worst if you have long legs. | |
| 02:16 | <- 6'0 | |
| 02:16 | dcook | How tall are your kids, talljoy? |
| 02:16 | I think I was taller than my dad and he taller than his dad | |
| 02:16 | talljoy | 6.0 and 6.2 currently |
| 02:16 | 15 and 16 years old | |
| 02:17 | dcook | Food must not last long around there :p |
| 02:17 | tcohen | talljoy: you are right, Manuel is really tall now |
| 02:17 | talljoy | no. it disappears REALLY fast. |
| 02:17 | dcook | tcohen: Did you post a photo of Manuel recently? |
| 02:17 | talljoy | i just try to keep my hands out of the way of their mouths |
| 02:17 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:17 | I can't wait to compete with Ripley to see who can eat more.. | |
| 02:17 | tcohen | i think Cecilia tagged me in a couple yesterday :-D |
| 02:18 | dcook | tcohen: I think the last time I saw a photo of Manuel was when he was born! |
| 02:18 | tcohen | he looks like a bigger boy, but he's only 1 1/2 yr |
| 02:18 | dcook | What day was he born? I keep thinking Dec 6th, but maybe it was just Dec 6 in Oz.. |
| 02:18 | * tcohen | is not sure how to share a facebook post here |
| 02:18 | tcohen | it was Dec 5th |
| 02:18 | :-D | |
| 02:19 | dcook | Ah, that's it |
| 02:19 | My mum was born Dec 6th | |
| 02:19 | kathryn | Oh are we talking about our beloved children, I'm qualified! |
| 02:19 | dcook | And I remember linking the two when I found out your news |
| 02:19 | hehe | |
| 02:20 | talljoy | kathryn tell us about yours. |
| 02:20 | tcohen | https://snag.gy/SDJNus.jpg |
| 02:20 | thats' on facebook with better resolution anyway | |
| 02:20 | you three have access | |
| 02:20 | hehe | |
| 02:21 | dcook | Ah, yes! That's the photo I saw! |
| 02:21 | Handsome! So much bigger than the baby photo! | |
| 02:21 | kathryn | hi talljoy :) she's 17 months, Frida! One month younger than tcohen's wee one |
| 02:21 | talljoy | fun age! |
| 02:21 | kathryn | superfun |
| 02:21 | tcohen | really funny |
| 02:22 | talljoy | mostly spent chasing them around if I recall right. |
| 02:22 | kathryn | apart from the teeth |
| 02:22 | tcohen | they are discovering the world |
| 02:22 | talljoy | and personality and talking starting. |
| 02:22 | dcook | :3 |
| 02:22 | kathryn | Frida says "whaasaaat??" al the time |
| 02:22 | talljoy | HA |
| 02:22 | kathryn | less often now, only when she sees something new |
| 02:22 | tcohen | manuel is very phisical (is it idiomatic?) he kicks the soccer ball better than his dad |
| 02:22 | kathryn | once she first said it she had to ask A LOT |
| 02:23 | ah yeah, I am amazed what they can do even when we didn't really teach them | |
| 02:23 | dcook | tcohen: that's cool! I'm so stoked for Ripley to be more active |
| 02:23 | Well... until I want them not to be active :p | |
| 02:23 | kathryn | sitting down is something we can look forward to when they sleep |
| 02:24 | * tcohen | has a solution for dcook http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/agVL8Bg_700b.jpg |
| 02:24 | dcook | hehe. I'd seen that one before |
| 02:24 | talljoy | there is truth to that image. |
| 02:24 | * dcook | is looking forward to bub sleeping |
| 02:24 | talljoy | easier to contain yourself, than them. |
| 02:24 | tcohen | I miss manuel every day at work |
| 02:25 | talljoy: yeah, more realistic | |
| 02:25 | kathryn | my heart is starting to ache from this conversation! |
| 02:25 | talljoy | i worked far less then, than i do now. With teenagers, they smell so bad, I'd rather be at work. |
| 02:25 | tcohen | hahahahah |
| 02:25 | kathryn | hehe |
| 02:25 | talljoy | and the angst and ennui! |
| 02:26 | well the ennui i kind of enjoy. the angst.....not so much | |
| 02:26 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:27 | I miss Ripley at work as well | |
| 02:27 | Always glad to give cuddles after | |
| 02:27 | Ripley does well to put up with dad angst :p | |
| 02:27 | tcohen | manuel now prefers his dad to go sleep |
| 02:27 | * tcohen | melts down |
| 02:28 | talljoy | sigh..... |
| 02:28 | kids, under your feet for a moment, under your heart for a lifetime. | |
| 02:28 | kathryn | :) |
| 02:28 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:29 | kathryn | I wish she wouldn't pull herself up by a handful of my flesh, though. I am not a handrail! |
| 02:30 | talljoy | ahahahahaha |
| 02:34 | kathryn | see, now i can wait to see her til I get home :) |
| 02:37 | * talljoy | checks the scrollback to see how we got here. |
| 02:38 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:51 | * tcohen | heads to bed, have a good day/night everyone |
| 02:55 | talljoy | good night tcohen |
| 02:55 | dcook | night tcohen |
| 03:05 | wizzycray | https://www.waartaa.com/ this looks interesting |
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| 04:55 | dcook | wizzycray: I got a bad SSL cert for that one? |
| 04:59 | TFW you wonder whether you should label a column "timestamp" and you remember that Koha actually does have code guidelines >_> | |
| 04:59 | Alas, it does not feature.. | |
| 05:00 | I guess https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]2:_SQL92_keywords rules out "timestamp" at least | |
| 05:04 | Oh my... it turns out we defy that guideline quite often... | |
| 05:05 | 26 instances of a TIMESTAMP column named "timestamp" | |
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| 05:18 | dcook | heya wizzycray, you moderate the wiki, yeah? |
| 05:18 | * dcook | waves to drojf |
| 05:26 | dcook | Do we no longer have "upgrade_database.pl"? |
| 05:26 | Wait, update_database.pl.. | |
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| 05:43 | wizzycray | updatedatabase.pl |
| 05:43 | wahanui | updatedatabase.pl is still running. |
| 05:45 | dcook | Yeah, I eventually did a "find -name "update*" |
| 05:45 | but thx :) | |
| 05:45 | Love the atomic updates | |
| 06:15 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:15 | bag | morning |
| 06:16 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 06:16 | wahanui | hello, magnuse |
| 06:16 | bag | :) |
| 06:17 | magnuse | what's the greek? kalimera? |
| 06:19 | καλημέρα | |
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| 06:30 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:30 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
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| 06:45 | fridolin | hie there |
| 06:46 | magnuse | bonjour! |
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| 06:47 | eythian | hi |
| 06:47 | wahanui | privet, eythian |
| 06:47 | talljoy | good morning! |
| 06:47 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
| 06:47 | talljoy | bah |
| 06:47 | eythian | so true |
| 06:47 | dcook | heya eythian |
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| 06:48 | eythian | hi dcook |
| 06:48 | mveron | Good morning / daytime #koha |
| 06:48 | eythian | fancy seeing you here |
| 06:48 | dcook | I pop up from time to time |
| 06:48 | hey mveron | |
| 06:48 | mveron | hey dcook |
| 06:49 | eythian | http://concerts.eventful.com/Antimatter <-- dcook you should check out this band |
| 06:49 | one of the guys from earlierAnathema | |
| 06:50 | dcook | Cool. I'll put them on now. |
| 06:50 | Recommendations similar to Antimatter: | |
| 06:50 | Kiss, Paramore, Jonas Brothers | |
| 06:51 | * dcook | isn't sure how much he trusts this eventful.com :p |
| 06:51 | talljoy | hahahahaha |
| 06:51 | wahanui | i guess hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask? |
| 06:51 | talljoy | no beiber? |
| 06:51 | dcook | talljoy: I could always try refreshing the page :p |
| 06:51 | talljoy | don't |
| 06:51 | ;-) | |
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| 06:54 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 06:54 | talljoy | good morning! |
| 06:54 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
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| 06:55 | marcelr_greece | hi there |
| 06:55 | wahanui | hey, marcelr_greece |
| 06:58 | magnuse | @wunder thessaloniki |
| 06:58 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 23.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on May 31, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:58 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:58 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 31, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:59 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 06:59 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 13.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 31, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:00 | marcelr_greece | hi mveron |
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| 07:03 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 07:04 | bag | hahaha! it’s got ginny typing on the main screen |
| 07:05 | talljoy | cute!! |
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| 07:05 | marcelr_greece | ginny? |
| 07:05 | wahanui | well, ginny is doing great |
| 07:05 | bag | :D |
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| 07:05 | talljoy | her typing was on the slide in the presentation |
| 07:05 | bag | yes |
| 07:05 | sorry not clear :P | |
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| 07:32 | Koha-performanc | Hello, could someone advise about koha library performance? We successfully installed koha with sampled data, unimarc format, added a few books, connected with ldap,everything seems fine except the performance - browsing and searching,browsing opac or intra takes 3-5 secs to load a page, searching 7-9 secs, though server hardware and internet connection seems more than fine |
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| 07:44 | magnuse | Koha-performanc: you might want to run Koha under Plack. if you installed with the debian packages, you can enable plack with these commands: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lack_on_packages_.283.22.2B.29 |
| 07:44 | hiya petter | |
| 07:44 | petter | hei magnus! |
| 07:45 | drojf | ugh android |
| 07:48 | pianohacker | hello |
| 07:48 | wahanui | niihau, pianohacker |
| 07:51 | wizzycray | Koha-performanc: turn off local cover images. |
| 07:55 | mveron | 207 live viewers on http://www.livemedia.com/kohacon16 :-) |
| 08:00 | Koha-performanc | local cover images are set to dont display |
| 08:01 | our system runs on ubuntu 14.04 so it seems like plack has no effect | |
| 08:02 | davidnind | 207 - nice! (and it is coffee break time at the moment) |
| 08:02 | Koha-performanc | if plack would really help solving this atleast up til 1-2 secs, we might try to reinstall koha in newer version of linux |
| 08:07 | davidnind | Koha with packages is supported on LTS versions - Ubuntu 14.04, Debian 8 and 7. Still some work required to make Koha work on Ubuntu server 16.04 - not yet recommended, you will have problems! |
| 08:16 | petter | If plack has no effect I can't belive it's on |
| 08:17 | The effect should be huge | |
| 08:17 | (but parsing of search-results is still slow) | |
| 08:17 | all other pages should feel snappy | |
| 08:32 | Koha-performanc | as i found plack to give effect requires newer apache, so newer linux version, im gonna look into this |
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| 08:39 | pianohacker | Koha-performanc: yes, the apache-shared-intranet-plack.conf checks for a high enough apache version. Which version do you have? |
| 08:41 | Koha-performanc | 2.4.7 is the newest for ubuntu thursty 14.04, now im working on updating all of this, seems plack need apache 2.4.10 |
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| 08:49 | bag | talljoy++ |
| 08:49 | talljoy | :-D |
| 08:50 | bag | always the hat on /me |
| 08:50 | talljoy | ayup |
| 08:57 | bag | hmm I’m stuck in a web installer on current master |
| 09:00 | wizzycray | yeah there's a bug |
| 09:00 | also a patch | |
| 09:00 | bug 16615 | |
| 09:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16615 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Full-site SSL: always use SSL when referencing external resources |
| 09:00 | wizzycray | no |
| 09:01 | bug 16619 | |
| 09:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16619 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Installer stuck in infinite loop |
| 09:02 | wizzycray | bag ^ |
| 09:02 | magnuse | gah, i hate it when i write "protect marc" in bugzilla search to find bug 14957 |
| 09:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, Needs Signoff , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import |
| 09:02 | bag | yeah typo on my part - I think I will bump that past QA |
| 09:03 | wizzycray | up to you :) |
| 09:04 | bag | done |
| 09:06 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16619 - installer stuck in infinite loop <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]52637eb95a265308e> |
| 09:06 | wizzycray | oarsome :) |
| 09:07 | eythian | wahanui: marc is also <reply>I think you mean Jurassic Marc, $who |
| 09:07 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 09:13 | wizzycray | hehe jurassic marc. funny slide. |
| 09:14 | magnuse | yay |
| 09:16 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev up for Bug 16200 - 'Hold waiting too long' fee has a translation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b23a332a998ed6b1> / Bug 16200: Convert all existing expired holds accounttype to HE <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0ed39cb6a19737317> / Bug 16200: Make 'Hold waiting too long' translatable and give it an unique |
| 09:17 | bag | oh yeah rangi - if possible - let’s get a picture of everyone together that bought t-shirts… maybe right before lunch :) |
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| 09:21 | bag | happy birthday thatcher |
| 09:22 | wizzycray | you only missed it by 17 days, pretty close actually. |
| 09:22 | thatcher | hai2u |
| 09:22 | many bdays upon you bag | |
| 09:22 | bag | HA |
| 09:23 | I hit THE thatcher up on facebook wizzycray | |
| 09:23 | wizzycray | he was just telling me ;) |
| 09:23 | bag | I have it on my calendar now - so I get the notice :) THE thatcher is famous in our household and in ByWater |
| 09:24 | thatcher | how's the things |
| 09:24 | wizzycray | lol, there's only one. like the highlander. |
| 09:24 | bag | lol |
| 09:24 | things are good thatcher - I just finished my presentation - so thinking about beer ;) | |
| 09:24 | thatcher | indeed sir |
| 09:24 | wizzycray | you should come over and have beer with us. |
| 09:25 | bag | deal :) |
| 09:25 | thatcher | all the beers |
| 09:25 | wizzycray | we made it ourselves. |
| 09:25 | just sayin. | |
| 09:25 | bag | all THE beers |
| 09:25 | excellent and right on Rea’s | |
| 09:25 | thatcher | it's shockingly drinkable |
| 09:26 | bag | kohala++ |
| 09:26 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16532: Groups showing empty tables if no groups defined <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]00f043b4403aa9e01> |
| 09:26 | wizzycray | omg I just want this db upgrade to finish already |
| 09:26 | bag | the HE one? |
| 09:26 | wizzycray | HE? |
| 09:26 | wahanui | well, HE is a dc |
| 09:26 | bag | yeah I was afraid that one was going to be big |
| 09:26 | holding waiting accountlines change wizzycray | |
| 09:27 | wizzycray | oh, heh |
| 09:27 | no | |
| 09:27 | bag | bug 16200 |
| 09:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16200 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , 'Hold waiting too long' fee has a translation problem |
| 09:27 | wizzycray | this is a 3.10 -> 3.22 |
| 09:27 | bag | oh yeah - see you tomorrow :) |
| 09:27 | eythian | wizzycray: who is that? |
| 09:27 | wahanui | i think that is the bueaty of the plugins :) |
| 09:27 | bag | there are a few in that group that touch all items |
| 09:27 | ouch | |
| 09:28 | wizzycray | and old_issues |
| 09:28 | those are the ones that are the killers | |
| 09:30 | magnuse | thatcher! |
| 09:31 | thatcher | magnuse! |
| 09:31 | wahanui | magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 09:31 | thatcher | how are you my friend |
| 09:31 | eythian | he's eating pizza |
| 09:31 | everyone else is adding 10000 bugs | |
| 09:32 | magnuse | thatcher: good. busy |
| 09:32 | pianohacker | cpanel made another perl JSON fork, apparently |
| 09:32 | * magnuse | had pizza yesterday, so not today |
| 09:32 | * pianohacker | finds while he's trying to upgrade catmandu |
| 09:32 | pianohacker | why are there 5 major modules for a spec that fits on the back of a (large) napkin? |
| 09:33 | thatcher | i'm playing antique banjo and on pager ^.^ |
| 09:33 | bag | a pager - that’s so 90s - so antique too |
| 09:34 | thatcher | ikr |
| 09:35 | http://www.hangoutstorage.com/[…]129-1-3197233.jpg | |
| 09:35 | eythian | http://www.sparknz.co.nz/news/paging-shut-down/ <-- thatcher, less than a year and you won't be on pager any more |
| 09:35 | thatcher | ya we knew it was comin |
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| 09:58 | * wizzycray | mutters about 'convert statistics to utf8' |
| 09:59 | magnuse | utf8 - who needs it?!? |
| 09:59 | wizzycray | http://i.imgur.com/DD5IARx.gif |
| 09:59 | I tease. | |
| 09:59 | it's just taking ages :) | |
| 10:04 | https://twitter.com/CoolestLif[…]37487278075842560 | |
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| 11:32 | pianohacker | drojf/eythian: there's a nasty version problem trying to upgrade catmandu. Catmandu 1.0201 wants Data::UUID > 1.221, but you can't just grab Data::UUID, because Debian uses OSSP::uuid which provides Data::UUID, and the packages are built to explicitly depeend on libossp-uuid-perl |
| 11:32 | I had to force-install my dh-make-perl created libcatmandu-perl package | |
| 11:33 | eythian | it's possible that catmandu will work with either, if so, that can be declared. |
| 11:34 | pianohacker | eythian: I believe it should, but the explicit version requirement means that it won't work with ossp::uuid |
| 11:34 | eythian | we can override that easily enough if we find it to be wrong |
| 11:35 | pianohacker | I'm guessing you use something more sophisticated than dh-make-perl --cpan for making packages? |
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| 11:36 | eythian | no, that's what I use |
| 11:36 | but you can change what it makes | |
| 11:36 | pianohacker | oh. Time to read man pages |
| 11:36 | drojf | hello again |
| 11:36 | eythian | debian/control is where it's declared. |
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| 11:36 | pianohacker | ohhh kk after the fact |
| 11:37 | that makes sense | |
| 11:39 | drojf | pianohacker: we depend on libossp-uuid-perl because of SOAP-whatever which is used for the norwegian userbase i think |
| 11:39 | pianohacker | yup |
| 11:39 | drojf | but in the newer SOAP-whatever (have toi look it up) they changed it |
| 11:39 | so that uses the new one, so we should switch to that version and change our dependency | |
| 11:42 | pianohacker | oh, thanks |
| 11:42 | thought I had that | |
| 11:42 | drojf++ | |
| 11:44 | mveron | "Translation is not easy without context" - that's why we should avoid sentence splitting bei tags :-) |
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| 11:45 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 11:47 | mveron | Hi oleonard |
| 11:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16525: Have cancel button when adding new aq budget <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b578f17ae80e46f8f> / Bug 16001 - Use standard message dialog when there are no cities to list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6a4b30422ab473153> |
| 11:51 | drojf | hi mveron |
| 11:51 | mveron | Hi drojf |
| 11:52 | oleonard | Hi drojf, are you happy with how the hackfest went? |
| 11:53 | drojf | oleonard: i think it went good. some people said it did, and nobody compleined or cried |
| 11:53 | and hi oleonard :) | |
| 11:53 | complained even | |
| 11:54 | all non-devs that stayed until friday managed to do a signoff in a dev install, that was cool | |
| 11:54 | Joubu | hi #koha |
| 11:54 | mveron | hi Joubu |
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| 11:56 | Joubu | pianohacker: did you get the answers of the survey? |
| 11:56 | I'd be great to fix some of the complains during the hackfest | |
| 11:56 | some seem quite easy to fix | |
| 11:58 | pianohacker | that's a good point |
| 11:58 | Joubu: no I haven't yet | |
| 11:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16450 - Remove the use of "onclick" from guarantor search template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6ba248e8edf245cf6> / Bug 16511: Making contracts actions buttons <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1d598b60ac6aea46e> / Bug 16524: Use floating toolbar on item search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g |
| 12:09 | pianohacker | eythian: how do you then build the package after overriding debian/control |
| 12:09 | ? | |
| 12:09 | eythian | debuild -us -uc |
| 12:09 | or pdebuild | |
| 12:13 | pianohacker | thanks |
| 12:14 | gaetan_B | that is one special afternoon |
| 12:14 | did someone understand what selida does ? | |
| 12:15 | Joubu | pianohacker: sent an email, cced you |
| 12:15 | pianohacker | thanks |
| 12:15 | oleonard | There is so much Koha stuff going on around the world which happens outside the "community." |
| 12:16 | * oleonard | is watching the live stream |
| 12:16 | pianohacker | yes... |
| 12:16 | bag | it’s the most installed ILS in the world |
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| 12:18 | oleonard | We all should think about how to draw more participation internationally. |
| 12:18 | rangi | and make marshall wake up too |
| 12:19 | Joubu | rangi: do you think you will have a spare slot in your talk tomorrow to talk about Hea? |
| 12:20 | rangi | I can make room |
| 12:21 | drojf | i don't think making users not go to the koha website is a great idea. (if i understand that correctly) |
| 12:21 | *understood | |
| 12:22 | oleonard | I would have liked to hear more details about that |
| 12:23 | Joubu | drojf: hum? |
| 12:23 | oleonard | Did anyone see the link at the end of that last presentation? |
| 12:24 | Joubu | fullstacksolution.com.pl |
| 12:24 | gaetan_B | i think so yes |
| 12:24 | Joubu | http://fullstack.com.pk |
| 12:24 | oleonard | Joubu: .pk? |
| 12:24 | matts | pakistan |
| 12:24 | oleonard | Thanks |
| 12:25 | Joubu | the portfolio has broken link |
| 12:25 | oleonard | Flagged as a malware site by OpenDNS :( |
| 12:25 | I wonder if they just have the whole country flagged :( | |
| 12:25 | matts | Joubu, and some "LOREM IPSUM" :) |
| 12:25 | bag | :P |
| 12:26 | Joubu | that's what I called 'broken links' :) |
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| 12:26 | bag | morning tcohen |
| 12:26 | tcohen | morning dood |
| 12:26 | Joubu | tcohen: where are you? |
| 12:26 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
| 12:27 | Joubu | we waited for you yesteday night! |
| 12:27 | tcohen | Joubu: at the office, in Cordoba, Argentina |
| 12:27 | :-P | |
| 12:27 | what did you drink Joubu | |
| 12:27 | bag | THE koha - I love it :) |
| 12:28 | matts | tcohen, tsipouro :) |
| 12:28 | tcohen | hmmm |
| 12:28 | hi matts :-D | |
| 12:28 | drojf | Joubu: i thought he said something like that. people don't have to go to the koha website, they can just come to his company. but i may have misunderstood |
| 12:28 | matts | hi tcohen :) |
| 12:29 | Joubu | drojf: but... there is nothing on the website |
| 12:29 | drojf | lol |
| 12:29 | * tcohen | googled for it, and is intrigued |
| 12:29 | drojf | tcohen: by tsipouro? |
| 12:29 | it's great | |
| 12:29 | tcohen | yup |
| 12:29 | drojf | i could use some now |
| 12:29 | heh | |
| 12:30 | bag | me too |
| 12:30 | matts | ^^ |
| 12:30 | * tcohen | heads downtown immediately trying to find some tsipouro |
| 12:30 | oleonard | The OPAC prog template returns to haunt me |
| 12:30 | drojf | tcohen: in german ouzo is common, i could not find any tsipouro |
| 12:30 | * Joubu | prefers ouzo |
| 12:30 | * drojf | prefers tsipouro |
| 12:31 | * matts | likes both |
| 12:31 | tcohen | is dobrica with you? |
| 12:31 | Joubu | no |
| 12:31 | @seen dpavlin | |
| 12:31 | huginn | Joubu: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 1 year, 12 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <dpavlin> hooray for everybody involved! |
| 12:31 | drojf | but he said to say hi. i asked if he'd come to berlin. no time unfortunately |
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| 12:35 | drojf | where are people staying in marseille? |
| 12:35 | bag | I’ll probably do an Airbnb |
| 12:36 | Joubu | there is a quite bad hotel close to the office |
| 12:36 | but I think many try to avoid this one | |
| 12:36 | drojf | that sounds… i don't know :D |
| 12:36 | Joubu | there are lot of others on the old harbour |
| 12:36 | bag | I stayed there once I think - I agree |
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| 12:37 | drojf | ok i'll wait for somebody to choose something |
| 12:37 | i made the choice for greece, that#s enough :D | |
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| 12:39 | Joubu | drojf: info from the last one https://docs.google.com/spread[…]a8PmAY/edit#gid=1 |
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| 12:40 | tcohen | god, this is like eating an asado in front of a toothless guy |
| 12:40 | stop it! | |
| 12:40 | enjoyo kohacon now | |
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| 12:42 | * oleonard | claps |
| 12:42 | tcohen | thanks |
| 12:42 | hehe | |
| 12:42 | bag | if I was toothless tcohen I’d still figure out a way to enjoy an asado |
| 12:42 | I’d bring a blender | |
| 12:42 | :P | |
| 12:42 | tcohen | yeah, that's what i was thinking |
| 12:44 | bag | oleonard: you should watch my presentation - I actually talk to the audience at home :P |
| 12:44 | tcohen | when is it held? |
| 12:46 | oleonard | bag: The international fund talk? |
| 12:51 | Uh oh, ByWater demo site is down | |
| 12:53 | kidclamp | fixed oleonard |
| 12:53 | nengard | kidclamp++ |
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| 13:29 | bag | yes oleonard the international fund |
| 13:30 | NateC? | |
| 13:30 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 13:31 | NateC | HA still true! |
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| 13:54 | * oleonard | trying to recognize everyone based on the backs of their heads |
| 13:54 | * mveron | they could turn and wave to the camera... |
| 13:54 | marcelr_greece | they could.. |
| 13:55 | mveron | :-) |
| 13:55 | pianohacker | oleonard: I just did, I'm on the left |
| 13:55 | I have a thing sticking out of my head | |
| 13:55 | you should recognize the borg implant :P | |
| 13:55 | marcelr_greece | o is it an implant |
| 13:56 | oleonard | Where are the pan controls on this video? |
| 13:56 | marcelr_greece | i am in the same row |
| 13:56 | gaetan_B | did you see me picking my nose? |
| 13:56 | bag | I am the only one with a hat on ;) |
| 13:57 | oleonard | You are easy to spot, bag |
| 13:57 | * bag | waves |
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| 14:00 | eythian | who is the one about to drop an ice cube down pianohacker's neck? |
| 14:00 | * eythian | made him look |
| 14:00 | pianohacker | did a massive double take |
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| 14:05 | drojf | oh, no stream in firefox for me, i forgot |
| 14:05 | Joubu | It took me 2 years to make the MarcFieldsToOrder patch in, and now everybody is using it |
| 14:05 | would have been easier to tell me it was great before :) | |
| 14:07 | drojf | i made a wiki page for the hackfest, maybe we can fill it with some life? |
| 14:08 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ohacon16/Hackfest | |
| 14:09 | i want to take part in packaging, i think that has very limited resources. liw said up to 6 people, more with help. eythian would help, don't know to how many more people that translates now | |
| 14:09 | so i have put it not up there so far | |
| 14:09 | i would like to see as many devs as possible do that :) | |
| 14:10 | not really something for librarians anyway | |
| 14:12 | it would be good to have somebody who does a session about sandboxes. paul_p will do a presentation as far as i understand, so they could use it in practise at the hackfest | |
| 14:12 | paul_p | drojf no no no !!! |
| 14:12 | drojf | what? |
| 14:12 | paul_p | drojf I didn't say "yes" to ME presenting the sandboxes. I said yes to SOMEONE presenting the sandboxes. And I prefer that it's not me. |
| 14:13 | jajm = maybe you ? | |
| 14:13 | marcelr_greece | drojf make paul_p do it :) |
| 14:13 | drojf | paul_p: ah, i'm sorry. but i think giannis understood it that way too :) |
| 14:13 | paul_p | drojf you're the 2nd one to tell me that, so it's probably true. But this is KohaCon, not PaulPCon :D |
| 14:14 | will investigate with giannis... | |
| 14:14 | Joubu | I did it for KohaCon14 so it skips my turn :) |
| 14:15 | drojf | is that something that sonia might want to do? |
| 14:15 | "want" as in "can be talked into" :) | |
| 14:16 | paul_p: lucky you that i brought it up :D | |
| 14:16 | i cant play the stream in chromium either :( | |
| 14:16 | now i actually installed that | |
| 14:16 | it says i need flash | |
| 14:17 | oleonard | Okay, who is going to carry the livestream camera around with them for the rest of the evening? |
| 14:17 | drojf | oleonard: we are having a secret dinner, no cameras |
| 14:18 | oleonard | :P |
| 14:19 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16437 - (follow-up) Automatic item modifications by age needs prettying <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9d8ba8aab426496b2> / Bug 16437 - Automatic item modifications by age needs prettying <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2e96237a716ae436e> |
| 14:20 | drojf | hm. whoever does the sandboxes can go to the secret dinner, right? eythian should do it :D |
| 14:21 | oh damn i forgot to pay for the trip | |
| 14:21 | could somebody pay for me and i'll give you the money at the pub/dinner? | |
| 14:23 | rangi bag eythian Joubu and whoever is there right now :) ^ | |
| 14:25 | or i will have to stay home. alone. while everyone is on the trip. :'''( | |
| 14:27 | liw | drojf, if eythian helps, the packaging tutorial should be able to take another 6. and if people work in pairs, that a total of 24. plus that's only for the hands-on parts, the listen-only parts can take as many as will hear me speak. |
| 14:28 | oleonard | I wonder what you are supposed to do if you don't want to confirm a patron discharge? |
| 14:28 | Does that happen? | |
| 14:28 | drojf | liw: alright, thanks for the info. i think 12 would be fine |
| 14:29 | liw: 80 people registered for the hackfest, but no idea how many will shop up, and certainly a lot of people that have no use for building debian packages | |
| 14:29 | *show | |
| 14:30 | liw | if people do the hands-on parts together in small groups of 24, I and eythian can handle six groups each, for a total of 288 pepole |
| 14:30 | drojf | lol |
| 14:30 | liw | if we can get rangi to help as well... |
| 14:30 | drojf | i'd prefer to actually learn s0mething, which will probably not happen with small groups |
| 14:31 | from my experience with similar things | |
| 14:31 | liw | I've found that 1 or 2 people per "group" works best |
| 14:33 | drojf | i think i like 1 person groups best |
| 14:34 | you have to keep in mind that a lot of people at the hackfest will not be developers | |
| 14:35 | (it would be cool to have 80 koha developers in a room though) | |
| 14:38 | ok nobody there, no daytrip for drojf | |
| 14:39 | oleonard | :( |
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| 14:40 | drojf | i will do tsipouro day then |
| 14:40 | :P | |
| 14:58 | ha. i can pay tomorrow. | |
| 15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:04 | oleonard | Anyone here use the patron discharge feature? |
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| 20:07 | kidclamp | can anyone get to the manauals on translate.koha-community.org |
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| 20:49 | kidclamp | tcohen about? |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | kidclamp: last I heard there was a datacentre problem for the translation server. |
| 20:52 | kidclamp | thanks wizzyrea |
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| 21:39 | eythian | wahanui: robots is <reply>https://imgur.com/lj7B5sQ |
| 21:39 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | eythian: hahaha |
| 21:55 | thatcher | well played |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea | hey smart people |
| 22:04 | I have a recurring problem-ish (it's work-around-able) but it's annoying so maybe one of you will have a genius idea | |
| 22:05 | so koha-dump, dumps out everything you need to get a complete db dump, that's great. It does it by table name, alphabetically. That's cool, until you go to import it into an existing database with tables - the foreign key declarations are all out of order, and it tries to create keys on tables that don't exist | |
| 22:06 | so the import fails at aqbasket or aqbasketsellers | |
| 22:06 | the work around I have is to do a very frightening thing, and drop the target DB, and re-create it | |
| 22:07 | what might one do to avoid this problem and make it more seamless? | |
| 22:09 | thatcher | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHQnDTd1y4 |
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| 22:24 | wizzyrea | https://i.imgur.com/xaBoIO8.webm |
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