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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:00 | * Brooke | is feeling the when I was your age our code was on punchcards age tonight. |
| 00:00 | kidclamp | heh, I have two card catalogs and two microfiche readers in my house fwiw |
| 00:01 | Brooke | oooof |
| 00:02 | the former is cool, the latter is just kinda excessive ;) | |
| 00:02 | have you seen Jason Scott's talk on the emularity? | |
| 00:02 | edveal joined #koha | |
| 00:02 | kidclamp | no |
| 00:03 | Brooke | hang on lemme google summat |
| 00:03 | http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4546 | |
| 00:04 | https://archive.org/details/Ja[…]esNDSR2016May2016 | |
| 00:04 | he is *hilarious* in person | |
| 00:05 | kidclamp | ooh, I have been playing their games |
| 00:05 | The Fool's Errand is still an amazing puzzle game | |
| 00:05 | Brooke | ' |
| 00:05 | Yer man is responsible for Oregon Trail being up there | |
| 00:06 | kidclamp | I have been avoiding that one for fear of getting obsessed |
| 00:06 | * Brooke | is way beyond obsession at this hour. |
| 00:06 | Brooke | this stapler is a metaphor for my life |
| 00:06 | it staples once | |
| 00:07 | and gives up | |
| 00:07 | then I unjam it | |
| 00:07 | rinse repeat | |
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| 01:35 | francesca | Hello |
| 01:35 | liz | hi |
| 01:35 | wahanui | privet, liz |
| 01:35 | francesca | I'll be in soon |
| 01:35 | liz | cool, kathryn's there :) |
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| 01:37 | francesca | Cool, hi Kathryn |
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| 01:58 | kathryn | hi francesca |
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| 06:06 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:16 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:17 | eythian | @later tell rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/busines[…]old-to-lion-group |
| 06:17 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:24 | marcelr | hii eythian |
| 06:24 | eythian | Hello marcelr |
| 06:24 | marcelr | alles goed in berlijn? |
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| 06:28 | fridolin | bonjouuuuuur the people |
| 06:28 | marcelr | bonjour fridolin |
| 06:28 | eythian | Ja, natuurlijk. |
| 06:30 | Helaas weer niet zo mooi 🙂 Have to wait for Greece for that. | |
| 06:31 | fridolin | eythian: ah neederlands, where are u from ? |
| 06:31 | my family is from north belgium so i understand a bit | |
| 06:31 | eythian | fridolin: New Zealand, you know this 🙂 |
| 06:32 | fridolin | ahh NZ. mmm its a UTF character but so large, UTF-16 ? |
| 06:34 | eythian | fridolin: I've stayed at your house, have you not had coffee yet? |
| 06:34 | The UTF8 is a Unicode smilie because I'm on my phone. | |
| 06:36 | fridolin | ahhhh Robin, nice to see u |
| 06:36 | look https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-16#U.2B0000_to_U.2BD7FF_and_U.2BE000_to_U.2BFFFF | |
| 06:36 | 6 Hexa chars are a UTF16 character | |
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| 06:46 | eythian | fridolin: :-) I'm not actually sure what this sense, but I'd be surprised if it's UTF16 because then everything would be. |
| 06:46 | * what this sends | |
| 06:48 | fridolin | mmmh, encoding is hell |
| 06:49 | magnuse | word! |
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| 06:51 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:51 | wahanui | bonjour, alex_a |
| 06:52 | * magnuse | kicks himself into migration mode |
| 06:53 | eythian | Flying south for the summer, eh? |
| 06:53 | magnuse | hehe, a little bit, yes |
| 06:58 | fridolin | for my problem yesterday with zebrasrv and systemd, |
| 06:58 | i've find a simple solution | |
| 06:58 | documented in Wiki : https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]the_Zebra_Indexer | |
| 06:58 | a simple service config file and it runs, it does not need daemon anymore | |
| 07:00 | liw | nice |
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| 07:45 | pianohacker | good morning |
| 07:45 | wahanui | well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
| 07:57 | fridolin | pianohacker: hie |
| 07:58 | yesterday i was asking for Zebrasrv+Systemd for Debian Jessie | |
| 07:58 | I've the solution if u want | |
| 07:59 | pianohacker | fridolin: just saw that in the scrollback, thanks |
| 08:00 | fridolin | cool |
| 08:00 | I try to share a little bit more in community | |
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| 08:05 | cait2 | good morning pianohacker! |
| 08:05 | pianohacker | cait2: too late :( |
| 08:06 | cait2 | why toolate? no longer morning yet? |
| 08:08 | pianohacker | yes.. |
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| 08:11 | liw | "Fri 27 May 08:11:00 UTC 2016" -- UTC is the only correct timezone, so it's still morning :P |
| 08:11 | t4nk602 | hello any one here upgraded to latest release |
| 08:11 | magnuse | cait2: yeah, almost lunchtime! |
| 08:12 | t4nk602: do you mean 16.05 which is just a few hours old? | |
| 08:12 | it is recommended to wait at least until the first maintenance release before upgrading a production system. that will be one month from now | |
| 08:15 | t4nk602 | Oww ok |
| 08:15 | I thought it was released yesterday | |
| 08:15 | cait2 | also, if you are running ubuntu 16.05 just don't |
| 08:15 | t4nk602 | Isn;t the release stable |
| 08:16 | cait2 | it is, but there are always some small catches found early |
| 08:16 | t4nk602 | I see |
| 08:16 | cait2 | so you can, but it is really early :) |
| 08:16 | t4nk602 | It works on Linux? |
| 08:16 | I understand | |
| 08:22 | rangi | is anyone working on packaging dbix::runsql ? |
| 08:22 | eythian | yep |
| 08:23 | rangi | cool |
| 08:23 | fridolin | 16.05 should be tested with mariaDB 10.0/1 |
| 08:23 | i'll have a try when I can | |
| 08:24 | t4nk602 | is it working on Linux |
| 08:24 | or Ubuntu? | |
| 08:24 | wahanui | i think Ubuntu is a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions. |
| 08:24 | eythian | t4nk602: it only works on linux |
| 08:24 | t4nk602 | ok |
| 08:24 | rangi | ubuntu is a distribution of linux |
| 08:25 | t4nk602 | hwen I buy linux OS it comes with Ubuntu? |
| 08:25 | rangi | i am not sure what you are asking |
| 08:26 | pianohacker | rangi: in person ping |
| 08:27 | cait2 | hm anyone ever had problems with apache not writing ot the koha error logs? |
| 08:27 | it writes to apache logs instead... ubuntu 16.05, apache 2.4 etc. | |
| 08:27 | t4nk602 | can you tell me the requirements for installation of koha |
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| 08:30 | fridolin1 | wahanui: are u there ? |
| 08:30 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, fridolin1 |
| 08:30 | fridolin1 | ok im online |
| 08:36 | Joubu | fridolin1: fwiw I use MariaDB daily in my dev env and never had any issues with it |
| 08:36 | fridolin1: will you be in Thessaloniki? | |
| 08:41 | magnuse | whut? if i try to save the report "SELECT borrowernumber, cardnumber, firstname, surname FROM borrowers WHERE LENGTH( cardnumber ) != 14" i get "the connection was reset". if i try to save it as "SELECT borrowernumber, cardnumber, firstname, surname FROM borrowers WHERE cardnumber != 14" (without the LENGTH()) it works fine?!? |
| 08:41 | fridolin1 | Joubu: no i wont, i'think other deserves it |
| 08:43 | rangi | Joubu: about to sign off 16591 |
| 08:43 | but i was thinking, we could (in a new bug) make the token generation a TT plugin | |
| 08:44 | to make it easy to add to other tt pages | |
| 08:45 | eythian | magnuse: is != supposed to work? |
| 08:45 | typically SQL is <> | |
| 08:45 | (IIRC) | |
| 08:45 | this doesn't really answer your question, however. | |
| 08:46 | I'd also check your mysql logs, because connection reset is not something that should ever be an answer. | |
| 08:47 | Joubu | rangi: yes that's a first step. If we get others issues, I will do something better |
| 08:47 | rangi | cool |
| 08:48 | Joubu | I do not manage to find a good Koha logo (png or svg), does someone know where I can find that? |
| 08:48 | magnuse | eythian: i'm saving it as a report, so the reset is apache, not mysql, i think |
| 08:48 | eythian | ah |
| 08:48 | Joubu | the green one if possible |
| 08:49 | rangi | i dont think we have a good one of the green one |
| 08:49 | we have svg of the black one | |
| 08:49 | magnuse | and <> vs != seems to do the same thing, but both versions give a reset |
| 08:49 | Joubu | rangi: I have found https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]f-client-logo.svg but the inside of the 'o' and 'a' are not transparent (white instead...) |
| 08:50 | rangi | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]s_and_Explanation |
| 08:50 | found the ones at the bottom here? | |
| 08:50 | Joubu | yes that's the one I found |
| 08:50 | rangi | ah annoying |
| 08:51 | could use this | |
| 08:51 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ages/Koha-egg.svg | |
| 08:51 | Joubu | Yes I think it's what I will do |
| 08:51 | But would have been great to have the text | |
| 08:51 | rangi | yeah |
| 08:51 | the font is Bitstream Vera Sans | |
| 08:52 | maybe | |
| 08:54 | cait2 | Joubu: are you in greece already? |
| 08:56 | Joubu | cait2: yep :) |
| 08:56 | cait2 | how is it? :) |
| 08:56 | Joubu | hot! |
| 08:56 | cait2 | ugh |
| 08:56 | @wunder Thessaloniki | |
| 08:56 | huginn | cait2: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 25.0°C (11:20 AM EEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:56 | Joubu | I am not in Thessaloniki yet, but 100kms south |
| 08:57 | yesterday it was 35° :) | |
| 08:57 | cait2 | ah ok |
| 08:57 | when are you getting to tessaloniki? is k. coming too? | |
| 08:57 | liw | too hot |
| 08:57 | Joubu | We plan to arrive tomorrow in the afternoon, and yes she is here |
| 08:58 | liw | @wunder helsinki |
| 08:58 | huginn | liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 16.0°C (11:50 AM EEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:58 | rangi | Joubu: ill arrive around 10am tomorrow |
| 08:59 | * liw | will be arriving Wednesday |
| 08:59 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:59 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:59 | magnuse | hah! |
| 08:59 | * magnuse | will never arrive - eternal traveller! |
| 09:00 | liw | magnuse, I congratulate you on a reasonable temperature :) |
| 09:00 | magnuse | thanks - it IS rather nice! |
| 09:00 | rangi | in time for the day trip liw :) |
| 09:01 | Joubu | rangi: ok I will try to catch you on #koha when we are around |
| 09:01 | liw | rangi, all of Wednesday is a trip day, I'm going to be exhausted by the time in the afternoon |
| 09:01 | rangi | Joubu: cool :) |
| 09:01 | liw: Thursday is the trip to the tombs :) | |
| 09:02 | pianohacker: https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]35847443376394241 | |
| 09:02 | pianohacker | hehehe |
| 09:02 | liw | rangi, oh. I though it was hacking? |
| 09:03 | Joubu | Do not forget the sun cream and the hat! |
| 09:03 | (or baseball cap for bag!) | |
| 09:04 | rangi | liw: http://kohacon2016.lib.auth.gr/?page_id=2417 |
| 09:04 | liw | no I tell a lie. I only arrive on Thursday, actually. |
| 09:04 | rangi | ahhhh |
| 09:04 | eythian | cait2: https://goo.gl/photos/pCApfd8wVfTUdf8fA |
| 09:05 | Joubu | ha something else, if you plan to get a simcard with prepaid data, it's not so easy, and quite expansive |
| 09:05 | rangi | luckily i can use my nz simcard and my nz data for $5 nzd a day there |
| 09:05 | eythian | @later tell drojf https://goo.gl/photos/pCApfd8wVfTUdf8fA |
| 09:05 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:05 | fridolin1 | whoooo 1 patch : Bug 16608 |
| 09:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16608 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Missing entity nbsp in some XML files |
| 09:06 | * fridolin1 | in the place |
| 09:07 | Joubu | you can get something at Cosmote (1st phone network), it's 15€ the sim card (with 10€ top up included). it's called "internet on the go", but lot of shops do not have this sim card (or they do not want to sell it, did not understand why...) |
| 09:08 | and then buy another topup to reach 20€ and you will get 2Go for a week, something like that | |
| 09:08 | rangi | cool |
| 09:08 | Joubu | it's easier to drink beers and use the wifi of the cafés |
| 09:09 | (not what I do!) | |
| 09:10 | rangi | :) |
| 09:14 | eythian | ashimema: happy birthday! |
| 09:15 | pianohacker | eythian: out of curiosity, was live reindexing (at time of change) looked at for ES? |
| 09:15 | ashimema | cheers eythian :) |
| 09:16 | rangi | pianohacker: if you are using packages its done realtime (well close to, it uses the indexing daemon that is on by default now) |
| 09:16 | eythian | pianohacker: I have this memory that it would try to do it in realtime |
| 09:16 | that may have changed though | |
| 09:16 | My plan was for it to try in realtime and fall back to a queue if that failed, I think | |
| 09:20 | pianohacker | things that are working, if not extraordinarily useful: catmandu move Koha::Biblio to ElasticSearch --index_name koha |
| 09:20 | catmandu export Koha::Biblio to MARC | |
| 09:29 | eythian | does sending it to ES work with all the fixer rules that Koha uses to make things searchable? |
| 09:29 | because if so, that'd be pretty neat | |
| 09:29 | I wonder if you can provide a module for --fix somehow | |
| 09:30 | then you could just have something that generates them | |
| 09:32 | pianohacker | eythian: I don't think directly, but we could write our own fix |
| 09:32 | eythian: any idea where that code lives? | |
| 09:34 | eythian | Dig through from Koha::ElasticSearch::Indexer |
| 09:34 | Joubu | pianohacker: ES indexing code is in Koha::ES::Indexer (if it was your question) |
| 09:34 | * Joubu | is too slow |
| 09:34 | eythian | snap! |
| 09:36 | specifically, _convert_marc_to_json at the bottom of that module is where they're referenced. | |
| 09:40 | pianohacker | found 'em |
| 09:41 | in theory, yes, though I'm not sure of the mechanics | |
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| 09:44 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
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| 10:18 | Joubu | @later tell Brooke Bonjour :) |
| 10:18 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:37 | rangi | hi LibraryClaire |
| 10:38 | LibraryClaire | hi rangi :) |
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| 10:46 | magnuse | anyone wanna take the time to check if koha qualifies for a Best Practices Badge? http://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/ |
| 11:00 | cait2 | hi LibraryClaire |
| 11:02 | LibraryClaire | hi cait2 :) |
| 11:05 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 11:05 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:05 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 11:08 | cait2: how ya'll doing in berlin? | |
| 11:10 | eythian | post lunch minor coma |
| 11:10 | magnuse | heh |
| 11:10 | too much cheese? | |
| 11:14 | eythian | too much jambalaya really |
| 11:19 | magnuse | jambalaya! |
| 11:20 | eythian | rangi: do you have the ability to push to git.debian.org? I don't have my old key handy, and it hasn't picked up my new one yet. |
| 11:26 | rangi | hmm not on this machine |
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| 11:32 | eythian | ah well. I'll just have to make drojf do it as part of his initiation :) (I have a ready-for-debian package for DBIx::RunSQL.) |
| 11:34 | rangi | sweet :) |
| 11:39 | fridolin | sweet |
| 11:40 | magnuse | eythian++ |
| 11:41 | pianohacker | *blink* interesting code from Catmandu::ES... return unless $total if defined $total; |
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| 11:48 | pianohacker | rangi: am I missing something, or does C4::Search::SimpleSearch not work with ES? |
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| 11:53 | rangi | not sure, maybe not, it doesnt really work with anything |
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| 12:05 | eythian | pianohacker: I'm fairly sure I put something in for SimpleSearch |
| 12:05 | I think I found all the places it was referenced and directed them to a dispatch thingy | |
| 12:06 | pianohacker | ah kk |
| 12:06 | eythian: ah, yes you did | |
| 12:17 | eythian | DBIx::RunSQL package in here: https://owncloud.kallisti.net.[…]s/PdpAnvE0LgIgLoY |
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| 12:25 | eythian | gmcharlt: There's a hopefully debian ready package for DBIx::RunSQL on alioth for your backporting pleasure. |
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| 12:54 | paul_p_ | rangi = are u here (or visiting Berlin) ? |
| 12:54 | eythian | paul_p_: he's in Berlin, but he's gone to nap for the afternoon |
| 12:55 | paul_p_ | thx eythian. will drop him an email then ;-) |
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| 13:09 | eythian | old DBIx::RunSQL link replaced with this one directly to the deb file: https://owncloud.kallisti.net.[…]s/4Asak2zzKiuO8pF |
| 13:09 | it's now been uploaded into Debian | |
| 13:09 | liw | eythian, yay! |
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| 13:18 | magnuse | eythian++ |
| 13:19 | nengard | hi all, i just upgraded to 16.05 ;) and I noticed that the timeline stops at Oct 5, 2015 on the about page |
| 13:20 | eythian | Time actually stops then. |
| 13:20 | druthb | lawl |
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| 13:43 | pianohacker | eythian: Catmandu has a very strong emphasis on CQL, and the builtin Catmandu ES implementation requires an outside mapping. Do you think there's a clever way to use Koha's builtin stuff to create that mapping? |
| 13:43 | eythian | it must be programmable |
| 13:43 | though, at the moment it produces ES queries directly anyway | |
| 13:44 | (that said, CQL might be an OK thing to settle on in terms of search languages perhaps.) | |
| 13:44 | pianohacker | eythian: as opposed to the rough melange Koha supports now? |
| 13:44 | eythian | yeah |
| 13:45 | QueryBuilder could also be used | |
| 13:45 | to produce ES queries directly | |
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| 14:37 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 14:39 | eythian | look who's decided to show up |
| 14:43 | https://qa.debian.org/develope[…]et.nz&comaint=yes <-- drojf, you should start adopting these | |
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| 14:48 | drojf | oh thats a lot |
| 14:49 | eythian | well adopting them is pretty much scriptable. |
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| 14:49 | eythian | it's just a matter of replacing my name+email with yours in debian/control |
| 14:52 | drojf | eythian: i'll postpone all package thoughts to after liws workshop |
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| 15:02 | eythian | pianohacker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKGoVefhtMQ |
| 15:18 | pianohacker: cait2: http://www.ritter-sport.de/de/[…]uchen/berlin.html | |
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| 22:25 | tcohen | hi there |
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