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| 01:02 | dcook | Morning folks. Anyone around who uses the kohadevbox? |
| 01:06 | wizzyrea | sup |
| 01:06 | dcook | Oh, it's all right. I noticed that kohadevbox uses koha-gitify :/ |
| 01:07 | Then I thought about having a whinge but thought it might be more useful if I just improved koha-gitify :p | |
| 01:07 | Although that's easier said than done... | |
| 01:07 | As koha-gitify doesn't seem to be able to test changes to Zebra files or koha-conf.xml... | |
| 01:09 | wizzyrea | not yet, no |
| 01:10 | dcook | Not for that last few years :p |
| 01:10 | I'll take a little look right now to see what I can do... | |
| 01:10 | wizzyrea | that's about how long it's been since cjh was working on koha |
| 01:10 | dcook | Yarp |
| 01:10 | * dcook | playfully shakes his fist in cjh's general direction |
| 01:12 | dcook | I think I might be able to do some of the Zebra stuff but don't know about the koha-conf.xml file... |
| 01:12 | Since that needs to go through the source build process... | |
| 01:17 | Hmm a person might be able to cheat though... | |
| 01:19 | Ooooh yes... that might work, precious... | |
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| 01:21 | dcook | '$prefix = $ENV{'INSTALL_BASE'} || "/usr";' |
| 01:21 | That can't possibly be right... | |
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| 01:34 | dcook | I guess you can't really test koha-conf.xml in this case... |
| 01:34 | Too many things rely on the package install... | |
| 01:41 | wizzyrea: Alas, I think it will proceed without that functionality | |
| 01:41 | I'm tempted to make an alternative to kohadevbox which does a git dev install... | |
| 01:41 | rangi | how exactly would that be different? |
| 01:42 | dcook | rangi: It would update the Zebra files and the koha-conf.xml file |
| 01:42 | rangi | nope it wouldnt |
| 01:42 | dcook | Yes it would |
| 01:42 | rangi | not unless you ran make install |
| 01:42 | dcook | That's how I do it |
| 01:42 | Right | |
| 01:42 | Well, make upgrade | |
| 01:42 | rangi | so how is that different |
| 01:42 | dcook | ? |
| 01:42 | rangi | its just a git install |
| 01:42 | both of them | |
| 01:42 | * dcook | shakes his head |
| 01:42 | dcook | It's not |
| 01:42 | rangi | just one has conf files in a different place |
| 01:42 | it so is | |
| 01:43 | dcook | It's a partial git install |
| 01:43 | And a partial package install | |
| 01:43 | rangi | you can set a bunch of values and do a make upgrade |
| 01:43 | * dcook | ponders |
| 01:43 | dcook | That would probably be a bad idea, no? |
| 01:43 | You'd overwrite the package install | |
| 01:44 | rangi | no you wouldnt |
| 01:44 | dcook | Unless you're pointing somewhere else |
| 01:44 | rangi | you'd be doing exactly the same as upgrading the package |
| 01:44 | dcook | Except you wouldn't be upgrading the package |
| 01:44 | rangi | which is the proper way to do it, debian/build-git-snapshot |
| 01:44 | dcook | And the OS would still think it's installed Koha 3.whatever |
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| 01:45 | rangi | dpkg -i packagename |
| 01:45 | done | |
| 01:45 | dcook | Yeah, I was thinking of doing debian/build-git-snapshot |
| 01:45 | My point is that it currently is a manual process | |
| 01:45 | I'm trying to find a way for a non-developer to be able to test Zebra and koha-conf.xml changes | |
| 01:45 | Who is using kohadevbox | |
| 01:46 | rangi | but they could do a perl Makefile.PL and a make upgrade? |
| 01:46 | dcook | No, that's what I do myself |
| 01:47 | And what I'd do in an alternative to kohadevbox | |
| 01:47 | rangi | i just don't see that this is any more manual than that |
| 01:47 | dcook | ? |
| 01:47 | What's "this" and "that" in that sentence? | |
| 01:48 | rangi | building and upgrading a package |
| 01:48 | vs make upgrade | |
| 01:49 | dcook | I suppose people might be more familiar with installing packages |
| 01:49 | Whereas make upgrade is scarier | |
| 01:49 | And if you're doing it on a kohadevbox system... | |
| 01:50 | rangi | at least that way it will catch if you have manually edited files too, and warn you, and give the option to overwrite or keep yours, and give a diff etc |
| 01:51 | dcook | Mmm that's true |
| 01:51 | rangi | also a really good way to catch if some snuck a dependency in |
| 01:51 | * dcook | is totally sneaking a dependency in |
| 01:52 | dcook | I keep thinking that ashimema made some really good changes for Koha and Zebra actually... |
| 01:52 | Although I'm not sure they'll be enough | |
| 01:53 | I guess to get the packaged Zebra to work you have to use /etc/koha/sites/$instancename/koha-conf.xml | |
| 01:55 | rangi: Sorry, I still don't get what you're trying to get at | |
| 01:55 | But it's lunch time | |
| 01:55 | * dcook | vanishes |
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| 03:22 | dcook | @later tell oleonard any thoughts on "paging" for https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]rns#Page_layouts? |
| 03:22 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:27 | fridolin | hie all |
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| 06:53 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:20 | rajesh | hello\ |
| 07:20 | anybody is online | |
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| 07:29 | rajesh | hello |
| 07:30 | hello janpasi | |
| 07:46 | hello | |
| 08:18 | ashimema | I did? |
| 08:18 | dcook still around? | |
| 08:20 | * ashimema | thinks he needs to get back into koha some time soon.. can't wait 'till me epic migration marathon is over come the summer |
| 08:21 | ashimema | morning #koha |
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| 12:15 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:16 | kidclamp | morning |
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| 12:32 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 12:32 | kidclamp | hi tchoen |
| 12:32 | tcohen even | |
| 12:33 | tcohen | heh, hi kidclamp |
| 12:33 | Joubu: can you paste the error you get with kohadevbox? | |
| 12:34 | kidclamp | ssh corpus |
| 12:34 | Joubu | tcohen: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]6-05-13#i_1822127 |
| 12:36 | tcohen | Joubu: thanks, I don't have a Jessie box to try myself |
| 12:36 | Joubu: you are on latest master, right? (kohadevbox:master) | |
| 12:37 | Joubu | yep |
| 12:37 | tcohen: which version of ansible are you using | |
| 12:37 | ? | |
| 12:37 | tcohen | it is 2.0.2.0 |
| 12:38 | well, 2.0.0.2 on 16.04, 2.0.2.0 on O$ X | |
| 12:39 | which is yours? | |
| 12:39 | 2.2? | |
| 12:44 | Joubu | tcohen: yep 2.2.0 |
| 12:45 | tcohen | can you paste the error? |
| 12:45 | how did you get that version? using pip? | |
| 12:46 | Joubu | `make deb` from src |
| 12:47 | pastebot | Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "==> jessie: Mounting NFS share" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/456 |
| 12:48 | Joubu | maybe `git submodule update --init --recursive`then make deb again |
| 12:50 | tcohen | bgkriegel mentioned me some issues too |
| 12:50 | and it seemed to be fixed by the --recursive | |
| 12:50 | flag | |
| 12:51 | Joubu: can't you use Ubuntu's PPA for Ansible on Jessie? | |
| 12:52 | https://launchpad.net/~ansible[…]ve/ubuntu/ansible | |
| 12:56 | Joubu | seems better with the submodule update |
| 12:57 | kidclamp | oleonard, can you take a glance at 16527 - you know a bit about the calendar plugin i think |
| 13:03 | oleonard | Yeah I can try to take a look |
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| 13:29 | Joubu | On http://perl4lib.perl.org/, I'd say that the link for "Koha: a full featured open source library system" is wrong |
| 13:37 | oleonard | Joubu: Very very wrong! |
| 13:40 | Of course getting a change made to the page is made as difficult as possible https://www.mail-archive.com/p[…]org/msg01615.html | |
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| 13:51 | Joubu | oleonard: we will see https://github.com/perlorg/perlweb/pull/194 :) |
| 13:51 | oleonard | Joubu++ |
| 13:52 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
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| 14:07 | oleonard | kidclamp: I think the highlight issue is a red herring. I think it always highlights the current date |
| 14:07 | kidclamp: But I confirm the problem with the date not being remembered | |
| 14:09 | kidclamp | oleonard: in 3.18 at least the selected date was marked selected/highlighted white while the curdate was yellow |
| 14:10 | oleonard | 'Show checkouts' is broken for me in master. JS error. |
| 14:11 | Joubu | oleonard: looks of here |
| 14:12 | ok* | |
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| 14:47 | oleonard | Joubu: Turns out I had a book checked out which didn't exist. Not sure how that happens, but I'll blame it on "test system." |
| 14:51 | kidclamp: Did you try git-bisecting to find an origin for that bug? | |
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| 14:56 | kidclamp | not yet oleonard, I looked at the history and nothing jumped out |
| 14:57 | oleonard | kidclamp: The jQuery upgrade seems like a place to start if you're looking for the highlighting issue. |
| 14:59 | cait | khall:could you take a look at rebasing the F/FU patch? |
| 14:59 | khall | will do cait! do you have the bug number handy? |
| 15:00 | cait | bug 14390 |
| 15:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14390 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Patch doesn't apply , Fine not updated from 'FU' to 'F' on renewal |
| 15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:01 | cait | thx! |
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| 15:02 | kidclamp | thnx oleonard |
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| 15:26 | bag | morning |
| 15:27 | oleonard | Hi bag |
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| 15:39 | * cait | waves |
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| 16:03 | oleonard | druthb: Conferencing today? |
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| 16:03 | druthb | oleonard: yup! Now through Thursday. :) press_pass++ |
| 16:04 | * druthb | is part of the liberal FOSS media now. |
| 16:05 | oleonard | Three cheers for the liberal FOSS media! |
| 16:05 | * druthb | blames nengard |
| 16:07 | oleonard | nengard's lavish lifestyle has shown you how lucrative the liberal FOSS media business is. |
| 16:08 | druthb | Indeed. Our editor sends out Cool Swag. :) |
| 16:08 | Plus, they get me media passes to cool conferences. :) | |
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| 17:11 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16402 - DBRev 3.23.00.063 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9698f6fb349b8b7d> / Bug 16402: (QA followup) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ea43e730db74a528a> / Bug 16402: Fix fox existing installations <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]100ef535c7da56285> / B |
| 17:22 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16288: (QA followup) Remove the syspref INSERT line <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0985feda37e819e7> / Bug 16288: Remove unused EDI Shipping Budget syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1bf99e80ffe3e4cac> / Bug 16288: Remove Reference to obsolete EAN syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.gi | |
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| 17:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16481 - Report menu has unexpected issues <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]123a0f6e213efa5f1> / Bug 16259: Replace CGI->param with CGI->multi_param in list context - part 2 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb3abd8cbc88a81e9> / Bug 1859: Do not display < > if an entry without value is selected <http://git.koha-co |
| 17:42 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16385: Fix breadcrumbs when ordering from subscription <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2eddbc5dcd84c04ed> / Bug 15086 - DBRev 3.23.00.064 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6f585fb45616ee3d1> / Bug 15086: Creators layout and template sql has warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]git;a=commitdiff; | |
| 17:42 | oleonard | jajm: Do you think your new plugin system should replace the existing one? Or is there some reason to have both? |
| 17:44 | jajm | oleonard, no reason to have both, but if we choose to use the new, they can coexist until all existing plugins are "migrated" |
| 17:47 | cait | jajm: translatable plugins? *hopeful |
| 17:49 | jajm | cait, using https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15395 we could easily have translatable strings in plugin (even with the current plugin system) |
| 17:49 | huginn | 04Bug 15395: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Allow correct handling of plural translation |
| 17:50 | cait | ah |
| 17:51 | jajm | interested in signing off ? :p |
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| 17:52 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16382: Update German web installer sample files for 16.05 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]587bb56a939fec561> / Bug 16501: Remove some unneeded warns in Upload.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b2488dc9568ab642f> / Bug 16471: Translatability: Fix issues in opac-password-recovery.tt <http://git.koha-community.or |
| 18:02 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16470: Update MARC21 es-ES frameworks to Update 22 (April 2016) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1a58b0f91997059c3> / Bug 16460: Update MARC21 frameworks to Update No. 22 (April 2016) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a89938c4387836f48> | |
| 18:59 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
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| 19:34 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 19:37 | * cait | waves |
| 19:37 | andreashm | hi cait |
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| 19:43 | andreashm_ | ok, I've probably asked this before, but in that case I've forgotten the answer. But what triggers predue notices to be sent (how, when?). overdue notices have its status triggers, but what of the other notice types? |
| 19:45 | cait | there is a cronjob |
| 19:45 | predue is sent x days before the loan period ends | |
| 19:45 | advance_notices checks the due dates of your items and the setting for the messages (how many days) and that triggers the notice | |
| 19:45 | due notices are sent on the due date | |
| 19:45 | same cronjob | |
| 19:48 | andreashm_ | thanks cait. |
| 19:49 | but what if you have automatic renewals scheduled (we will use that feature). Will predues be sent at all? and how do you decide how many days before the end of the loan period the mail should be sent? | |
| 19:50 | cait | andreashm_: take a look at th emessage settings |
| 19:51 | what you could do, and i think the library who wrote this does: | |
| 19:51 | you set the period for when an item can be renewed in the circulation rules to a higher day value, than you set the predue notice too | |
| 19:51 | this way a predue notice will only be sent out if the automatic renewal fails | |
| 19:51 | for example: | |
| 19:51 | allow renewal 7 days before end of due date (circulation conditions) | |
| 19:52 | sent predue notice 5days befor ethe end of due date | |
| 19:52 | make sense? | |
| 19:52 | andreashm_ | yup. that's clever. |
| 19:53 | andreashm | cait: we'll look into that! thanks a bunch! |
| 19:53 | cait++ | |
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| 20:08 | tcohen | bye #koha |
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| 23:29 | * dcook | waves |
| 23:30 | dcook | gmcharlt: I don't suppose you're still around? |
| 23:30 | Just a packaging query | |
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