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| 00:10 | dcook | morning #koha |
| 00:10 | @later tell drojf Well that doesn't sound convoluted at all :p | |
| 00:10 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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| 01:27 | dcook | "But there is no way you can ever get a cleartext version of the password from the database. If you can in any system (library or otherwise) never ever use that system." |
| 01:27 | rangi++ | |
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| 03:23 | reza | <IDENTIFY> |
| 03:55 | mtj | hey #koha, is kc.org git server down at the mo? |
| 04:01 | wizzyrea | web interface seems ok |
| 04:01 | pings alright | |
| 04:02 | fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer < but the git server bit does seem messed up | |
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| 04:16 | * Francesca | waves |
| 04:16 | Francesca | hello |
| 04:18 | wizzyrea | heya |
| 04:19 | Francesca | sup |
| 04:19 | wizzyrea | o not a lot |
| 04:20 | Francesca | its pizza tomorrow |
| 04:20 | that makes me happy | |
| 04:37 | dcook | Mmm pizza |
| 04:37 | * dcook | could go for pizza |
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| 04:39 | Francesca | come to nz |
| 04:39 | btw hi dcook, long time no talk | |
| 04:39 | dcook | Tempting. Very tempting. |
| 04:39 | Heya :) | |
| 04:39 | Francesca | where've you been |
| 04:40 | feels like ages | |
| 04:40 | dcook | Mmm wife had a baby. That took me out of the line of duty for a while. |
| 04:40 | Francesca | congrats :) |
| 04:41 | dcook | Thanks :) |
| 04:41 | The baby is super adorable O_O | |
| 04:41 | Being a dad is rad | |
| 04:42 | Francesca | come fly over for a few hours |
| 04:42 | eat some pizza | |
| 04:44 | dcook | I don't think my wife would like that :p |
| 04:44 | Francesca | no probably not |
| 04:44 | we'll have to send you virtual pizza | |
| 04:45 | dcook | I don't know what I think of virtual pizza... |
| 04:45 | Fortunately, Friday night has become de facto beer and pizza night, so I can't complain | |
| 04:46 | Francesca | lol |
| 04:46 | boy or girl btw? | |
| 04:47 | dcook | Ha. We're not telling anyone. We're crazy hippies O_O. |
| 04:48 | Francesca | lol |
| 04:48 | ibeardslee | that's good, why impose gender expectations on someone so young |
| 04:49 | Francesca | wahanui dcook is <reply> a crazy hippy (according to himself) |
| 04:49 | where is wahanui | |
| 04:50 | @wunder wlg | |
| 04:50 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (4:30 PM NZST on May 04, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:50 | dcook | ibeardslee: That's the idea |
| 04:50 | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pini[…]34c1f11e07800.jpg | |
| 04:51 | ibeardslee | ah yeap that's the one I was thinking of |
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| 04:51 | dcook | :) |
| 04:56 | @wunder syd | |
| 04:56 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (2:30 PM AEST on May 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:56 | dcook | Lovely... I should leave the house today >_> |
| 04:58 | lletelier_ | @wunder scl |
| 04:58 | huginn | lletelier_: The current temperature in Santiago, Chile is 15.0°C (1:00 AM CLST on May 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 04:58 | dcook | Koha community is neat :) |
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| 06:04 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:04 | dcook | Nope. Too early :p. |
| 06:04 | magnuse | hehe |
| 06:04 | cait | dcook: time for aquick question? |
| 06:05 | magnuse | our son wanted to be the first to arrive in kindergarten today :-) |
| 06:05 | cait | :) |
| 06:06 | dcook | :D |
| 06:07 | cait | dcook: i have 2 databases - running on the same sever and code - and it looks like one sorts bibnumber asc and hte other bibnumber desc when the sorting critieria is the same in the records |
| 06:07 | any idea why that is? | |
| 06:08 | I thought i saw you mentioning something about this in one of your emails lately - the bibnumber thing | |
| 06:09 | dcook | cait: I take it that the databases have different data? |
| 06:10 | cait | yes |
| 06:10 | search prefs etc seem to be the same | |
| 06:10 | dcook | Now I'm trying to remember Zebra things.. |
| 06:10 | cait | I have run out of ideas |
| 06:10 | dcook | Bibnumbre asc happens when... |
| 06:11 | * dcook | should review some of his own comments |
| 06:11 | dcook | I know I know the answer... haha |
| 06:13 | " If they’re in perfect ascending/descending order, chances are that your relevance is silently turned off." | |
| 06:13 | Oh, because Zebra's default sort order is biblionumber ascending I think | |
| 06:14 | Surprised that the other one is bibnumber desc when sorting.. | |
| 06:14 | cait: Do you have auto truncation on? | |
| 06:14 | cait | hm, can't check from here |
| 06:14 | but i thought i had that checked and it was off in both | |
| 06:15 | they are supposed to sort both on 008 | |
| 06:15 | publication date by default | |
| 06:15 | dcook | Ooh that's interesting |
| 06:15 | cait | but when the year is the same, we see the bibnumber sorting.... just in 2 different ways |
| 06:16 | dcook | Mmmm |
| 06:16 | Yeah, I did encounter something like that recently when relevance was the same.. | |
| 06:16 | I think that might be random | |
| 06:16 | At least I thought it would be random for relevance... in the case of year.. | |
| 06:17 | cait | hm? |
| 06:18 | dcook | Well... I guess it could be doing a relvance search and then sorting |
| 06:18 | Because relevance isn't actually sorting | |
| 06:18 | It's a totally different thing | |
| 06:18 | When we relevance searches, we're actually just not sending a sort query part.. | |
| 06:19 | Do they consistently sort ascending on one instance and sort descending on the other? | |
| 06:19 | cait | yes |
| 06:19 | it's very repeatable | |
| 06:19 | dcook | Hmm |
| 06:19 | Oh, I have a thought.. | |
| 06:20 | Do you have yaz-client access? | |
| 06:22 | Also which version of Koha are you using? | |
| 06:22 | Ideally, it would be nice if you could reproduce the query using yaz-client, and it would be good if you could view the Zebra server logs with a high degree of verbosity | |
| 06:24 | I would expect sorts bibnumber asc to be a case where Zebra is indexing the records in bibnumber ascending order... | |
| 06:25 | The descending order is bizarre... unless they are being ranked by relevance.. | |
| 06:28 | cait | an older version |
| 06:28 | hm no yaz access... | |
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| 06:29 | dcook | :( |
| 06:30 | cait | i am running out of time - i can check on the version when at work |
| 06:30 | dcook | Yikes... I think I just got an error from 16.05 when trying to do a weighted query in Koha... |
| 06:31 | Alas, I'd need more details to really know :/ | |
| 06:32 | cait | dcook: thx :) |
| 06:32 | dcook | Yikes... fuzzy search not working.. |
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| 06:33 | dcook | Hmm fuzzy not working because the use attribute is missing.. |
| 06:35 | "$weighted_query .= " or wrdl,fuzzy,r8=\"$operand\""" | |
| 06:35 | wtf... | |
| 06:35 | Time for git blame... | |
| 06:37 | Huh... looks like a mistake by Joshua Ferraro in 2007 | |
| 06:37 | How has this not been caught before now? | |
| 06:38 | magnuse | 9 years fly past sooo quick... |
| 06:38 | dcook | hehe |
| 06:39 | c70df80694577d6e5003241a05093ef5dd28d0f4 | |
| 06:39 | "Getting Search.pm air tight" | |
| 06:39 | O_O | |
| 06:40 | Oh man, looks like it goes even further back.. | |
| 06:41 | * dcook | just doesn't care too much atm... |
| 06:43 | dcook | Hmm unless this breakage occurred more recently.. |
| 06:44 | The flaw has been there for about a decade but maybe the code just never got called.. | |
| 06:44 | Until now! | |
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| 06:44 | dcook | Damn my insatiable curiosity... |
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| 06:49 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:51 | dcook | Getting the same error in 3.14... |
| 06:51 | Surely this must happen to other people? | |
| 06:51 | Maybe they don't realize they're getting errors.. | |
| 06:51 | Because Koha just says no search results returned instead of Zebra error.. | |
| 06:52 | * magnuse | cheers dcook and his curiosity on |
| 06:52 | dcook | It's very depressing :p |
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| 06:54 | dcook | Ahh, maybe it is my configuration |
| 06:54 | Because now that I think about it... Zebra would default to kw if you didn't provide a use attribute.. | |
| 06:57 | [120] Unsupported Truncation attribute -- v2 addinfo '103' | |
| 07:03 | According to http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]erymodel-rpn.html, it should be supported... | |
| 07:07 | teyekea | how can i manually re-index newly added items?? |
| 07:07 | dcook | teyekea: Manually re-index? |
| 07:08 | Argh... 5=103 totally works in 3.14... | |
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| 07:08 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:08 | dcook | Also 3.20... |
| 07:09 | teyekea | dcook: when i try to search items, it only bring items added before two years. so i want to include the latest items |
| 07:10 | dcook | There's lots of questions for me to ask you... |
| 07:10 | What type of Koha install do you have? Build from source or Debian packages? | |
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| 07:11 | teyekea | sure please ask, its from build cause i am on cent os, infact i am not the one who installed it |
| 07:11 | dcook | That sounds so unfortunate |
| 07:12 | That's probabl the least well known installation environment there is | |
| 07:12 | I'm guessing that you don't have an indexing daemon running | |
| 07:12 | And that's why you aren't getting anything more recent | |
| 07:12 | Do you know which user owns your Koha files? | |
| 07:13 | teyekea | yes |
| 07:14 | from the koha user i run rebuild_zebra.pl -v -b -r -a | |
| 07:15 | dcook | Yeah, that'll work once |
| 07:15 | You should probably also use the "-x" flag | |
| 07:15 | teyekea | and it returns with number of records exported as authority and biblio then it tries to reindex zebra and after some min it come up with this "zebraidx(7322) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)" |
| 07:16 | magnuse | ooh, happy star wars day, #koha! |
| 07:16 | dcook | Ugh, that's not good |
| 07:16 | Unfortunately, I can't help right now, as I have to leave for the day | |
| 07:16 | Hopefully one of these other fine folk can help | |
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| 07:18 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 09:42 | magnuse | kia ora khall! |
| 09:43 | khall | mornin! |
| 10:18 | mtj | hey magnuse, thanks for looking at the carousel patch |
| 10:19 | ..interesting bug that you found | |
| 10:21 | magnuse | heh, yeah. at first i assumed it was just a broken isbn, but it turned out it was just fine |
| 10:23 | mtj | makes me wonder why i didnt use isbn13 format - instead of isbn10 |
| 10:23 | that conversion seems to make more sense | |
| 10:24 | eg: isbn10 -> isbn13 | |
| 10:25 | ..then 979* isbns would be handled ok too | |
| 10:26 | * mtj | tries that |
| 10:27 | magnuse | yeah, i think that should work |
| 10:33 | mtj | aah, click... amazon wants an isbn10 format only |
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| 10:48 | cait | still? ugh |
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| 11:06 | mtj | hmm, i think there is a bug in Business::ISBN.pm |
| 11:08 | hmm, or not too | |
| 11:09 | i guess the isbn10/13 conversions have to assume a 978 prefix - and nothing else | |
| 11:10 | ..which is why a 979* isbn cant be converted, as it would clash with its 978* equiv. | |
| 11:10 | ok, makes sense | |
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| 11:31 | * Oak | waves |
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| 11:41 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:42 | druthb | Hi, oleonard. :) |
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| 11:56 | oleonard | Hm... git fetch failing for me today |
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| 12:20 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "That is quite an onclick" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/437 |
| 12:22 | tcohen | morning |
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| 12:30 | oleonard | Hi tcohen, and any other awake peoples |
| 12:30 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 12:32 | tcohen | hi cait oleonard |
| 12:33 | eythian | hi oleonard cait tcohen |
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| 12:34 | eythian | @later tell rangi actually, it ended up that the headphones I wanted don't even exist in NZ any longer, so I just bought some here that aren't quite what I was hoping for, but will do the job. |
| 12:34 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:35 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 12:35 | tcohen | hi marcelr! |
| 12:35 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
| 12:39 | magnuse | oleonard: a mere 86 quots! |
| 12:40 | eythian | quotloos on the winner? |
| 12:47 | marcelr | tcohen: Koha became probably a Plack app for performance reasons; if we get every library along, is another question (money, skills etc.) |
| 12:47 | tcohen | marcelr: I think it is (almost) ready for being the default setup |
| 12:48 | and my question is related to how we (devs) work on Koha | |
| 12:48 | marcelr | yes |
| 12:48 | tcohen | Koha packages have a way to easily enable plack right now |
| 12:48 | marcelr | it may be a strategic issue too |
| 12:48 | tcohen | doing it by default is a 2 lines patch |
| 12:49 | the broader use, the faster we spot issues | |
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| 12:55 | cait | tcohen: i was wondering - is it true that with plack you can't do the apache tricks? (overwriting system preferences, different opac views)? |
| 12:55 | tcohen | i'm not sure cait |
| 12:56 | but that's something expert users do, that could of course disable plack on a global config variable if needed | |
| 12:56 | cait | from the bugs it read like we wer more and more enforcing plack |
| 12:57 | it might be an expert function - but for consortia I think quite important | |
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| 12:57 | eythian | you can set environment vars still |
| 13:01 | cait | someone said some things would not work |
| 13:01 | so would be good to clear that up | |
| 13:01 | tcohen | :-P |
| 13:01 | if it means there are bugs filled for that... | |
| 13:03 | cait | i don't have plack atm still, would be nice if someone could check it |
| 13:04 | tcohen | cait: what specificaly? the sysprefs override thing? |
| 13:04 | cait | yep |
| 13:04 | and the separate opac trick | |
| 13:04 | tcohen | will you vagrant up at some point? |
| 13:05 | i don't know about the separate opac trick | |
| 13:05 | cait | i will try again once i have the new lapto |
| 13:05 | p | |
| 13:05 | tcohen | what is it about? |
| 13:05 | cait | but i still have to pick one and order it |
| 13:05 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]rfaces_by_URL_RFC | |
| 13:05 | This feature is implemented via the web server's capacity to pass environment variables to CGI. Three environment variables are defined: ... | |
| 13:06 | tcohen | i don't see why it would fail |
| 13:06 | but | |
| 13:07 | you need to handle the different vhosts creation on your own | |
| 13:07 | but hey, you already do that! | |
| 13:22 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
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| 13:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16383: Making Local Use sysprefs actions buttons <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]88e67de405a980115> / DBIx updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b0a87dfc3b2f43c3f> |
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| 13:34 | tcohen | cait: once you have the laptop, I can help you set plack so you can test if that feature is actually broken |
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| 13:38 | marcelr | khall: bug 16170 still needs the corresponding change in the DBIx schema: Koha/Schema/Result/Item.pm |
| 13:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16170 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Pseudo foreign key in Items |
| 13:38 | khall | will do marcelr! thanks for the reminder! |
| 13:38 | marcelr | khall: note that running the dbix update script still gives me a lot of changes? |
| 13:38 | oleonard | There is more to enabling Plack on packages than running the commands listed in this section? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lack_on_packages_.283.22.2B.29 |
| 13:38 | marcelr | khall: when will you push bug 16155 |
| 13:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16155 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , Composite keys in TestBuilder and more |
| 13:38 | khall | very soon marcelr |
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| 13:39 | marcelr | cool |
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| 13:39 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 13:40 | marcelr | hi drojf |
| 13:40 | * cait | waves |
| 13:41 | cait | tcohen: hope not too late then with the new discussion |
| 13:41 | drojf | hi marcelr and cait |
| 13:42 | tcohen | oleonard: nope :-D |
| 13:42 | oleonard | tcohen: Thanks |
| 13:42 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16016: Sitemap handling scripts for packages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7525ea073bb2a1acb> / Bug 15564 - Fix tranfert branch: Set collection branch with return branch if it is... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]22746c2c6be1da6b1> / Bug 15564 - Display "print slip" option when returning an item which is in |
| 13:44 | tcohen | woooooooo |
| 13:45 | hi drojf khall | |
| 13:45 | khall | hi! |
| 13:45 | tcohen | thanks for pushing 16016 khall! |
| 13:45 | khall | np! |
| 13:47 | tcohen | Joubu++ # performance boost! |
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| 13:54 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13903: (QA followup) change routes to /holds <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]600036efb07196268> / Bug 13903: Add API routes to list, create, update, delete reserves <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]59b18579d6c7677eb> / Bug 15126: Update patron definition <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=koha.git;a=commi |
| 14:02 | marcelr | @later tell Joubu please look at "Undefined subroutine CGI::multi_param" in Biblio.pm line 2519 when running TransformHtmlToMarc.t |
| 14:02 | huginn | marcelr: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:03 | cait | there is still a patch missing for the multi-param |
| 14:03 | the second part - could it be fixed by that? | |
| 14:04 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14622 - New data in French Canadian for the web installer. Add "fr-CA" folder. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]67111090810d39fcd> / Bug 7143: Moving about to 16.05. Hurray. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f3e917c97c99138b4> |
| 14:05 | marcelr | i do not think so: this is called by a test and does not reach the multi param redefine statement |
| 14:08 | drojf | @later tell magnuse need more info ;) what is the setup? i have no problem with regular koha files with two vhosts |
| 14:08 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:09 | tcohen | marcelr: isn't it awesome that all tests now pass? |
| 14:09 | marcelr | khall++ tcohen++ |
| 14:09 | tcohen | well, we are three bugs away from that |
| 14:09 | but they are PQA | |
| 14:09 | marcelr | just wait 2 mins |
| 14:10 | tcohen | \o/ |
| 14:10 | marcelr | :) |
| 14:10 | did you see: TransformHtmlToMarc.t ? | |
| 14:10 | tcohen | we followed the golden rule: if a test fails, comment it out! |
| 14:10 | :-P | |
| 14:10 | marcelr | delete it |
| 14:10 | tcohen | i'll take a look |
| 14:10 | marcelr | multi_param stuff |
| 14:11 | depends on environment vars available | |
| 14:11 | and your CGI version ;) | |
| 14:11 | mine is low... | |
| 14:11 | looooow | |
| 14:11 | tcohen | prove t/Biblio/TransformKohaToMarc.t t/db_dependent/Biblio/TransformHtmlToMarc.t |
| 14:11 | marcelr | CGI-- |
| 14:11 | tcohen | green for me |
| 14:11 | just those warnings | |
| 14:11 | marcelr | not for me |
| 14:11 | np | |
| 14:12 | tcohen | are you on wheezy? |
| 14:12 | marcelr | yes sir |
| 14:12 | have to update | |
| 14:12 | for plack.. | |
| 14:12 | tcohen | if it fails on wheezy... |
| 14:12 | ... deprecate wheezy! | |
| 14:12 | marcelr | right |
| 14:12 | tcohen | i'm joking |
| 14:13 | marcelr | right again |
| 14:14 | bag | deprecate wheezy! |
| 14:14 | :D | |
| 14:15 | marcelr | hi bag |
| 14:15 | bag | heya marcelr |
| 14:15 | marcelr | bag: kyle did your job |
| 14:16 | clearing the queue | |
| 14:16 | down to 3 now | |
| 14:16 | bag | yeah I had wall to wall meetings yesterday so I ask him to pick up the slack :D |
| 14:16 | khall++ | |
| 14:16 | marcelr | khall++ |
| 14:16 | khall | lol |
| 14:17 | tcohen | khall++ |
| 14:25 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16405: Fix Circulation/NoIssuesChargeGuarantees.t test 2 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]71619a008fe69f125> / Bug 10171: (QA followup) Make search tests use the right form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c3d05219d46215eac> |
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| 14:33 | tcohen | tadaaaa |
| 14:34 | marcelr | 0 in PQA |
| 14:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16390: Accounts.t does not need MPL <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]163b89dec37151b23> |
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| 14:58 | marcelr | Can't open file "definitions/index.json": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Swagger2.pm line 363 |
| 14:59 | Joubu | marcelr: did you open a bug report for the undef sub warning? |
| 14:59 | marcelr | no |
| 14:59 | probably only on wheezy an issue | |
| 15:00 | Joubu | I get the warning too |
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| 15:00 | Joubu | but I don't understand where it comes from |
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| 15:02 | marcelr | because you do not reach the redefine statement |
| 15:02 | check the $ENV stuff | |
| 15:02 | discussed it earlier? | |
| 15:04 | add a ENV statement in the test ?? | |
| 15:04 | or a redefine? | |
| 15:06 | Joubu | I don't get what you are saying, I am using CGI 4.25 so I do not need the redefine |
| 15:07 | The warning raised by transformhtml2marc is "CGI::param called in list context" | |
| 15:07 | marcelr | ok |
| 15:07 | Joubu | nevermind, we can ignore it |
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| 15:09 | marcelr | tcohen: do not really like the BAILOUT in batch.t when running multiple tests ;) |
| 15:09 | Further testing stopped | |
| 15:10 | tcohen | ah, not my fault :-D |
| 15:10 | blame jcamins | |
| 15:10 | marcelr | poor jcamins |
| 15:10 | tcohen | the test suit has evolved a lot, not really his fault |
| 15:11 | marcelr | also saw a double plan coming across with the search test without an environment var |
| 15:11 | test more does not like that | |
| 15:11 | you cannot say plan 15 and later plan skip_all | |
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| 15:12 | tcohen | you mean search_utf8.t? |
| 15:12 | marcelr | yeah |
| 15:12 | tcohen | we FOUR skip_all :-P |
| 15:13 | marcelr | but i see another one |
| 15:13 | t/db_dependent/www/auth_values_input_www.t ................... You tried to plan twice at t/db_dependent/www/auth_values_input_www.t line 47. | |
| 15:13 | when you miss a env paramter | |
| 15:14 | tcohen | yeah, they should all BAILOUT |
| 15:14 | marcelr | no |
| 15:14 | just exit please | |
| 15:14 | * tcohen | feels funny today |
| 15:14 | marcelr | bailout kills all tests |
| 15:14 | Joubu | tcohen: if you like the cache patches, any chances to get a signoff on them? :) |
| 15:14 | marcelr | just skip one test |
| 15:15 | tcohen | Joubu: I'm right on it actually, just got distracted rewriting some other tests |
| 15:15 | Joubu | thanks :) |
| 15:16 | * cait | loves watching marcelr, tcohen and Joubu :) |
| 15:17 | cait | you read like things getting done :) |
| 15:17 | Joubu | I think 16431 is quite interesting and, *if* I did not do anything wrong, it will improves the readability and the perfs |
| 15:17 | marcelr | bug 16431 |
| 15:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16431 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Marc subfield structure should be cached using Koha::Cache |
| 15:26 | drojf | nobody is going to maintan 16.05? |
| 15:26 | Joubu | First to ask will maintain, that's was the plan |
| 15:26 | drojf: you won! | |
| 15:26 | drojf | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_16.11 |
| 15:26 | nope :P | |
| 15:26 | i'm fine with packaging ;) | |
| 15:29 | less work packaging if there are no maintainers :P | |
| 15:29 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 15:29 | drojf | gmcharlt: did you get the tests silent when building packages or did you turn them off? |
| 15:30 | i can't get that stupid font test to pass and i have no idea what to do about it | |
| 15:30 | i wonder if i have zto actually install koha in the pbuilder envorinment to make that pass, which is not what i want to do | |
| 15:30 | gmcharlt | drojf: I go with a clean 'make test' in pbuilder |
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| 15:31 | gmcharlt | that doesn't, of course, run all the tests, but suffices to ensure that the result is at least installable |
| 15:39 | Joubu | oleonard: did you have a look at the icons Héctor chose on bug 16438? |
| 15:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16438 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Signed Off , Use Font Awesome icons in batch templates |
| 15:40 | oleonard | No, I'll look now. |
| 15:40 | Joubu | thanks |
| 15:44 | drojf | gmcharlt: i get an error for a test regarding font paths in koha-conf.xml all the time |
| 15:44 | * Oak | waves |
| 15:54 | Joubu | @later tell rangi splitter is not up-to-date again, see bug 16154 marked as signed off, but pushed since 26th April... Any ideas why it happens? |
| 15:54 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:57 | tcohen | Joubu: i will sign your patches in the next 3 hours |
| 15:57 | i like them | |
| 15:57 | just want to do a full review | |
| 15:57 | Joubu | tcohen: yes please :) |
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| 16:21 | Joubu | oleonard: thanks for you comment, that was my feeling too |
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| 16:23 | Joubu | oleonard: what about using the same icon (x) for all the 'clear' actions? |
| 16:24 | oleonard | I think with no icon the user is more likely to carefully read the link text. Three of the same icon might be confusing |
| 16:27 | Joubu | k |
| 16:27 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 17:02 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:56 | oleonard | How does batch record deletion by file work? When I try it I always get only one match. |
| 17:56 | How does it match the records in the file with the records in Koha? | |
| 17:58 | Karl_H | What's in the file you're using oleonard? |
| 17:58 | oleonard | Is it supposed to be a CSV of biblionumbers? |
| 17:58 | Karl_H | Generally I just use a file with a list of id numbers, no headers |
| 17:59 | oleonard | I see, I was hoping it was possible to use a MARC file. |
| 18:00 | Joubu | oleonard: yes it's a list of bibnum |
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| 18:46 | oleonard | Should it be possible to add an item modification by age rule without an age? Or, for that matter, without at least one condition and substitution? |
| 18:57 | Joubu | oleonard: you need at least 1 rule for the cronjob to work |
| 18:58 | iirc, the condition is optional, but the substitution is not | |
| 18:58 | however, the "value" (right member) can be empty (if you want to empty the field for instance) | |
| 18:59 | oleonard | What about the age? |
| 18:59 | Joubu | oleonard: Have a look at the help page, I have put some examples on it |
| 18:59 | no the age is mandatory | |
| 18:59 | but let me confirm that | |
| 19:00 | oleonard | .@ later me if you find out something different |
| 19:00 | Joubu | no, age does not seem mandatory, looking at the subroutine |
| 19:01 | but I am not sure it makes sense not to define an age | |
| 19:02 | ha yes it does, if the condition is sufficient | |
| 19:05 | @later tell oleonard: Age is not mandatory, the conditions can be sufficient | |
| 19:05 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:20 | indradg | hello #koha |
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| 19:26 | * indradg | waves at druthb |
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| 19:52 | * andreashm | waves |
| 19:53 | * cait | waves |
| 19:57 | cait | koha meeting in 3 minutes |
| 19:58 | andreashm | hi cait |
| 19:58 | oh, nice timing | |
| 19:58 | Humm. Merge conflict in api/v1/swagger.js for bug 15165. | |
| 19:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15165 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , REST API routes to list, edit and pay borrower's accountlines |
| 20:01 | andreashm | Could it be because of changes to bug 15126, which it depends on? |
| 20:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , REST API: Use newer version of Swagger2 |
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| 20:04 | cait | oops |
| 20:04 | andreashm: it's possible | |
| 20:04 | meeting time!!! | |
| 20:04 | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 4 May 2016 | |
| 20:04 | huginn | Meeting started Wed May 4 20:04:55 2016 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 20:04 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 20:04 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 May 2016) | |
| 20:04 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_4_may_2016' |
| 20:04 | cait | #topic Introductions |
| 20:05 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 May 2016) | |
| 20:05 | cait | please introduce yourself with #info! |
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| 20:05 | drojf | #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany |
| 20:05 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 20:05 | Colinc | #info Colin Campbell, PTFS-Europe Ltd, UK |
| 20:05 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 20:05 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ , Germany |
| 20:05 | andreashm | #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library |
| 20:05 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 20:06 | bgkriegel_ | #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Córdoba Argentina |
| 20:06 | cait | today's agenda can be found at: |
| 20:06 | gmcharlt | #info Galen Charlton, ESI, USA |
| 20:07 | cait | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eeting_4_May_2016 |
| 20:07 | #topic Announcements | |
| 20:07 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 May 2016) | |
| 20:07 | cait | bag: ping? |
| 20:07 | hm some general things maybe - people are probably aware :) | |
| 20:08 | #info We are in feature freeze now - only bug fixes are going to be pushed until release | |
| 20:08 | there was also a lot of work done to fix jenkins - i hope we will see green soon | |
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| 20:08 | cait | Joubu: anything to add? |
| 20:09 | Joubu | about? |
| 20:09 | I have just submitted some patches about plack compat | |
| 20:09 | cait | announcements :) |
| 20:09 | Joubu | might be good to see them into the next release |
| 20:09 | cait | we are missing our RM |
| 20:10 | #info Take a look at patches for better Plack compatibility | |
| 20:10 | gmcharlt | #info gmcharlt working on a master package; will be available over the next day or three |
| 20:10 | cait | thx |
| 20:10 | i am going to skip update to releases - i think no rmaints available? | |
| 20:11 | davidnind | Hackfest in Marseille in October |
| 20:11 | cait | ah thx davidnind |
| 20:11 | do you have the date on hand for an info? | |
| 20:11 | thd | I have one announcement |
| 20:11 | davidnind | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]6-May/042650.html |
| 20:12 | indradg | #Info Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Technologies, India |
| 20:12 | davidnind | October, 10th - 14th for the Hackfest |
| 20:12 | cait | #info Hackfest in Marseille will be October 10th - 15th |
| 20:12 | thd? | |
| 20:12 | thd | Koha would have much more of my time now if I could obtain a pro-bono or low cost lawyer for my friend's housing court case in New York City |
| 20:13 | Please see my wiki management proposal for details if you might know someone :) | |
| 20:13 | drojf | i don't think we have a lot of lawyers within the koha team |
| 20:14 | thd | Of course it just a personal appeal for the possibility that someone might know someone. |
| 20:14 | I am sorry to have to make such an appeal but the welfare of my friend has to come before Koha. | |
| 20:15 | rangi | #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT |
| 20:15 | drojf | pauls mail said 10--14 |
| 20:15 | not 15 | |
| 20:15 | cait | drojf: isn't hat what i wrote? |
| 20:15 | drojf | nope |
| 20:16 | cait | ugh |
| 20:16 | drojf | :) |
| 20:16 | ah it was just your typo, not a wroing info :) | |
| 20:16 | cait | #info Correction: Hackfest in Marseille will be October 10th - 14th (but of course it's nice to stay longer) |
| 20:16 | thd | s/before Koha/before time for Koha/ |
| 20:16 | drojf | also he said cheese day is every day, so if you are like me, bring a gasmask |
| 20:16 | and oleonard will be there | |
| 20:17 | if i got that right | |
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| 20:18 | cait | yep |
| 20:18 | talljoy | #info Joy Nelson ByWater Solutions |
| 20:18 | cait | #info be aware, there will be lots of cheese at the Marseille hackfest |
| 20:18 | ok, moving on? | |
| 20:18 | i'd like to talk elections next :) | |
| 20:18 | pianohacker | hi! |
| 20:19 | cait | #topic Elections for the 16.11 release team |
| 20:19 | Topic for #koha is now Elections for the 16.11 release team (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 May 2016) | |
| 20:19 | pianohacker | NOW you guys can talk about important stuff |
| 20:19 | talljoy | ha! |
| 20:19 | cait | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_16.11 |
| 20:19 | drojf | we got no release maintainer for stable |
| 20:20 | which is… less than perfect? ^^ | |
| 20:20 | thd | drojf: You are welcome to volunteer. |
| 20:20 | cait | yep |
| 20:20 | pianohacker | I haven't had a chance to volunteer, but I volunteer as tribu- QA for 16.11 |
| 20:20 | drojf | thd: thanks, i volunteered for something else |
| 20:20 | cait | lol |
| 20:20 | pianohacker: can you add yourself to the wiki page then pleas? and thx! | |
| 20:21 | pianohacker | cait: I will, but may not get a chance right now, so wanted to put myself on the chopping block |
| 20:21 | rangi | if no one else volunteers ill do rmaint for 16.05 |
| 20:21 | drojf | rangi++ |
| 20:22 | cait | ok, so at the moment we are missing rmaint 16.05 and possibly if people want to see it continue 3.20 |
| 20:22 | also documentation manager - but I see that davidnind has put his hat down there now :) | |
| 20:22 | Joubu | pianohacker: just added you to the wiki page to the QA team |
| 20:23 | cait | rangi: do you want to get voted in or wait a bit longer? |
| 20:23 | davidnind | Happy to help with documentation, not sure if Nicole has just not updated the page... |
| 20:23 | pianohacker | thanks Joubu |
| 20:23 | drojf | davidnind: so far you are our man for everything :) |
| 20:24 | cait | so let's start voting RM |
| 20:24 | davidnind | hopefully you are just joking drojf ;-) |
| 20:24 | cait | #startvote Release Manager: Brendan Gallagher (yes,no,abstain) |
| 20:24 | huginn | Unable to parse vote topic and options. |
| 20:24 | cait | abstain was the right word i hope? |
| 20:24 | thd | pianohacker: Did nengard miss posting her name for documentation? |
| 20:25 | drojf | davidnind: from what i see in the wiki… no :) |
| 20:25 | pianohacker | thd: just texted her |
| 20:25 | cait | #startvote Release Manager: Brendan Gallagher? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 20:25 | huginn | Begin voting on: Release Manager: Brendan Gallagher? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 20:25 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 20:25 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 20:25 | thd | #vote yes |
| 20:25 | talljoy | #vote yes |
| 20:25 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 20:25 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 20:25 | cait | #vote yes |
| 20:25 | Colinc | #vote yes |
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| 20:25 | pianohacker | #vote yes |
| 20:25 | bgkriegel_ | #vote yes |
| 20:25 | pianohacker | nengard just said she volunteers for doc manager for 16.11 |
| 20:25 | Joubu | is it the same proposal than for the previous release? Which means pianohacker and khall will be in the RM team also? |
| 20:26 | (don't mean it will change my vote, just want to know :)) | |
| 20:26 | pianohacker | I'm in |
| 20:26 | bag: is khall? | |
| 20:26 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 20:27 | bag | yes |
| 20:27 | edveal | #info Ed Veal, Bywater Solutions US |
| 20:27 | #yes | |
| 20:27 | cait | voting for RM - ends ina moment |
| 20:27 | edveal: #vote in front for it to count :) | |
| 20:27 | edveal | I know just a typo. thanks cait |
| 20:27 | #vote yes | |
| 20:28 | cait | ending vote |
| 20:28 | #endvote | |
| 20:28 | huginn | Voted on "Release Manager: Brendan Gallagher?" Results are |
| 20:28 | yes (11): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, pianohacker, Joubu, indradg, talljoy, edveal, thd, drojf | |
| 20:28 | cait | #agreed Release Manager: Brendan Gallagher |
| 20:28 | rangi: vote you in or wait? | |
| 20:28 | rangi | only wait if you think someone might volunteer |
| 20:29 | cait | it's suddenly quiet in here :) |
| 20:29 | we are going to vote on module maintainers next | |
| 20:29 | rangi | i feel like thats an experiment that has failed |
| 20:30 | cait | #startvote RMaints: Julian Maurice (3.22), Chris Cormack (16.05)? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 20:30 | huginn | Begin voting on: RMaints: Julian Maurice (3.22), Chris Cormack (16.05)? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 20:30 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 20:30 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 20:30 | Colinc | #vote yes |
| 20:30 | cait | #vote yes |
| 20:30 | talljoy | #vote yes |
| 20:30 | bgkriegel_ | #vote yes |
| 20:30 | edveal | #vote yes |
| 20:30 | thd | At some future point, with a larger community module maintainers may become a viable experiment. |
| 20:30 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 20:31 | thd | #vote yes |
| 20:31 | Joubu | we should ping fredericd to know if he is still up for RMaint 3.20 |
| 20:31 | bag | bhghhguhgbhhbyhbngbnhgubhhuhuhuhnbjjjbbnhhnbnbjmnbjhugjhjjujyuuhjhuujjhjjhbghvgvrre |
| 20:31 | gmcharlt | no, I don't think we can permit a cat to be a release maintainer |
| 20:31 | sorry, felines! | |
| 20:31 | bag | gtdfdgfdfdcfdcffgdfgdhgrthklllmkhjnnjgjhgjhjyutyutyutyyuuy77777huggjhhghggggytf |
| 20:32 | thd | :) |
| 20:32 | cait | ginny? :) |
| 20:32 | bag | ah sorry that was Ginny |
| 20:32 | drojf | CAT SHOULD MAINATIN EVERYTING! |
| 20:32 | cait | ok, ending vote in a moment |
| 20:32 | bgkriegel_ | :) |
| 20:32 | drojf | sorry, that was the cat from outside |
| 20:32 | cait | #endvote |
| 20:32 | huginn | Voted on "RMaints: Julian Maurice (3.22), Chris Cormack (16.05)?" Results are |
| 20:32 | yes (8): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, edveal, talljoy, thd, drojf | |
| 20:32 | cait | #agreed RMaints: Julian Maurice (3.22), Chris Cormack (16.05) |
| 20:33 | i typoed earlier - i think we won't have module maintainers for 16.11 | |
| 20:33 | talljoy | cats++ |
| 20:33 | cait | so moving on to translation manager |
| 20:33 | bgkriegel thx for volunteering again! | |
| 20:33 | drojf | bgkriegel++ |
| 20:33 | bgkriegel_ | :) |
| 20:33 | cait | #startvote Translation Manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 20:33 | huginn | Begin voting on: Translation Manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 20:33 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 20:33 | cait | #vote yes |
| 20:33 | thd | #vote yes |
| 20:33 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 20:33 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 20:33 | Colinc | #vote yes |
| 20:33 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 20:34 | andreashm | #vote yes |
| 20:34 | Joubu | (just emailed fredericd) |
| 20:34 | #vote yes | |
| 20:34 | talljoy | #vote yes |
| 20:34 | edveal | #vote yes |
| 20:34 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 20:34 | ending vote in a moment | |
| 20:35 | #endvote | |
| 20:35 | huginn | Voted on "Translation Manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel?" Results are |
| 20:35 | yes (10): Colinc, Joubu, davidnind, cait, andreashm, edveal, indradg, talljoy, thd, drojf | |
| 20:35 | cait | #agreed Translation Manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel |
| 20:35 | next is docs manager | |
| 20:35 | i am going to combine nicole and david if noone disagrees :) | |
| 20:36 | #startvote Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard, David Nind to help? (yes,no,abstain) | |
| 20:36 | huginn | Begin voting on: Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard, David Nind to help? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 20:36 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 20:36 | cait | #vote yes |
| 20:36 | bgkriegel_ | #vote yes |
| 20:36 | rangi | #vote yes |
| 20:36 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 20:36 | thd | #vote yes |
| 20:36 | Colinc | #vote yes |
| 20:36 | talljoy | #vote yes |
| 20:36 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 20:36 | edveal | #vote yes |
| 20:36 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 20:36 | cait | ending vote in a moment |
| 20:37 | #endvote | |
| 20:37 | huginn | Voted on "Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard, David Nind to help?" Results are |
| 20:37 | yes (10): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, Joubu, indradg, talljoy, edveal, thd, rangi | |
| 20:37 | cait | #agreed Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard, David Nind to help |
| 20:37 | There is no volunteer for database documentation manager | |
| 20:37 | i think maybe best if this kind of documentation is included in the patch adding a table or column | |
| 20:37 | indradg | +1 |
| 20:37 | cait | #chair drojf |
| 20:37 | huginn | Current chairs: cait drojf |
| 20:38 | thd | It may be an oversight by nengard. |
| 20:38 | Joubu | I think it's part of the requirements |
| 20:38 | drojf | ok so i guess we vote for QA manager and team :) |
| 20:38 | cait | maybe doesn't need to be a separate role |
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| 20:38 | drojf | lets start with QA manager. cait is offering to do it again |
| 20:38 | #startvote QA Manager: Katrin Fischer? (yes,no,abstain) | |
| 20:38 | huginn | Begin voting on: QA Manager: Katrin Fischer? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 20:38 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 20:38 | bgkriegel_ | #vote yes |
| 20:39 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 20:39 | rangi | #vote yes |
| 20:39 | Colinc | #vote yes |
| 20:39 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 20:39 | andreashm | #vote yes |
| 20:39 | drojf | (i did not forget this time ;) ) |
| 20:39 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 20:39 | thd | What happened to pianohacker on QA? |
| 20:39 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 20:39 | edveal | #vote yes |
| 20:39 | thd | #vote yes |
| 20:39 | Nevermind I see him. ;) | |
| 20:40 | drojf | everyone voted? will end vote in a moment |
| 20:40 | ending vote now… | |
| 20:40 | #endvote | |
| 20:40 | huginn | Voted on "QA Manager: Katrin Fischer?" Results are |
| 20:40 | yes (10): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, andreashm, Joubu, indradg, edveal, thd, drojf, rangi | |
| 20:41 | drojf | and we got a whole QA team to serve under cait… |
| 20:41 | #startvote QA Team: Kyle M Hall, Jonathan Druart, Tomas Cohen Arazi, Marcel de Rooy, Nick Clemens, Jesse Weaver (yes,no,abstain) | |
| 20:41 | huginn | Unable to parse vote topic and options. |
| 20:41 | drojf | heh |
| 20:41 | cait | ? |
| 20:41 | drojf | not sure what i broke |
| 20:41 | cait | it wants a ?... silly thing |
| 20:41 | drojf | ah |
| 20:41 | ok | |
| 20:41 | … | |
| 20:42 | #startvote QA Team: Kyle M Hall, Jonathan Druart, Tomas Cohen Arazi, Marcel de Rooy, Nick Clemens, Jesse Weaver? (yes,no,abstain) | |
| 20:42 | huginn | Begin voting on: QA Team: Kyle M Hall, Jonathan Druart, Tomas Cohen Arazi, Marcel de Rooy, Nick Clemens, Jesse Weaver? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 20:42 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 20:42 | bgkriegel_ | #vote yes |
| 20:42 | cait | #vote yes |
| 20:42 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 20:42 | andreashm | #vote yes |
| 20:42 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 20:42 | thd | #vote yes |
| 20:42 | Colinc | #vote yes |
| 20:42 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 20:42 | edveal | #vote yes |
| 20:42 | talljoy | #vote yes |
| 20:43 | drojf | closing vote in a moment… |
| 20:44 | #endvote | |
| 20:44 | #agreed QA Team: Kyle M Hall, Jonathan Druart, Tomas Cohen Arazi, Marcel de Rooy, Nick Clemens, Jesse Weaver | |
| 20:44 | huginn | Voted on "QA Team: Kyle M Hall, Jonathan Druart, Tomas Cohen Arazi, Marcel de Rooy, Nick Clemens, Jesse Weaver?" Results are |
| 20:44 | yes (10): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, andreashm, edveal, indradg, talljoy, thd, drojf | |
| 20:44 | rocio_away left #koha | |
| 20:44 | drojf | i think i missed this one… |
| 20:44 | #agreed QA Manager: Katrin Fischer | |
| 20:44 | heh | |
| 20:45 | cait | next to vote on ... is packaging manager, so I am going to take over again :) |
| 20:45 | drojf | handing back to cait |
| 20:45 | cait | #startvote Packaging Manager: Mirko Tietgen? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 20:45 | huginn | Begin voting on: Packaging Manager: Mirko Tietgen? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 20:45 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 20:45 | bgkriegel_ | #vote yes |
| 20:45 | cait | #vote yes |
| 20:45 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 20:45 | talljoy | #vote yes |
| 20:45 | Colinc | #vote yes |
| 20:45 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 20:45 | thd | #vote yes |
| 20:45 | edveal | #vote yes |
| 20:46 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 20:46 | rangi | #vote yes |
| 20:46 | cait | ending vote in a moment |
| 20:46 | gmcharlt | #vote yes |
| 20:47 | cait | :) |
| 20:47 | #endvote | |
| 20:47 | huginn | Voted on "Packaging Manager: Mirko Tietgen?" Results are |
| 20:47 | yes (11): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, edveal, indradg, talljoy, Joubu, gmcharlt, thd, rangi | |
| 20:47 | cait | #agreed Packaging Manager: Mirko Tietgen |
| 20:47 | drojf | damn |
| 20:47 | ^^ | |
| 20:47 | cait | congrats ;) |
| 20:47 | eythian | G'luck drojf 🙂 |
| 20:47 | drojf | err, thanks |
| 20:47 | cait | ok, almost done |
| 20:47 | drojf | eythian: you will have a lot to teach me at the hackfest :) |
| 20:48 | bag | drojf++ |
| 20:48 | rangi | drojf: we will have liw too? |
| 20:48 | cait | #startvote Bug Wranglers: Indranil Das Gupta? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 20:48 | huginn | Begin voting on: Bug Wranglers: Indranil Das Gupta? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 20:48 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 20:48 | talljoy | #vote yes |
| 20:48 | thd | #vote yes |
| 20:48 | eythian | Sure, I will tell you all the things I wanted to do so you can do them 😀 |
| 20:48 | drojf | rangi: that's the other hackfest ;) |
| 20:48 | edveal | #vote yes |
| 20:48 | rangi | #vote yes |
| 20:48 | Colinc | #vote yes |
| 20:48 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 20:48 | bgkriegel_ | #vote yes |
| 20:48 | cait | #vote yes |
| 20:48 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 20:49 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 20:49 | cait | ending vote in a moment |
| 20:50 | gmcharlt | #vote yes |
| 20:50 | drojf | eythian: i hope some of them are what i want to do anyway :D |
| 20:50 | cait | #endvote |
| 20:50 | huginn | Voted on "Bug Wranglers: Indranil Das Gupta?" Results are |
| 20:50 | yes (11): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, edveal, gmcharlt, talljoy, Joubu, thd, drojf, rangi | |
| 20:50 | cait | #agreed Bug Wranglers: Indranil Das Gupta |
| 20:50 | ok, one more to go | |
| 20:50 | wiki curators | |
| 20:52 | #startvote Wiki curators: Brooke (starting mid-June), Thomas Dukleth, David Nind? (yes,no,abstain) | |
| 20:52 | huginn | Begin voting on: Wiki curators: Brooke (starting mid-June), Thomas Dukleth, David Nind? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 20:52 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 20:52 | thd | #vote yes |
| 20:52 | bgkriegel_ | #vote yes |
| 20:52 | Colinc | #vote yes |
| 20:52 | edveal | #vote yes |
| 20:52 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 20:52 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 20:53 | talljoy | #vote yes |
| 20:53 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 20:53 | jasim joined #koha | |
| 20:53 | Joubu | (we should add a new role on which we would vote no) |
| 20:54 | thd | :) |
| 20:54 | gmcharlt | Proprietary Extension Manager? ;) |
| 20:54 | indradg | :) |
| 20:54 | thd | :) |
| 20:54 | indradg | LiveDVD ;-) |
| 20:54 | cait | hehe |
| 20:54 | ending vote in a moment | |
| 20:54 | #vote yes | |
| 20:54 | #endvote | |
| 20:54 | huginn | Voted on "Wiki curators: Brooke (starting mid-June), Thomas Dukleth, David Nind?" Results are |
| 20:54 | yes (9): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, Joubu, indradg, talljoy, edveal, thd | |
| 20:55 | cait | #agreed Wiki curators: Brooke (starting mid-June), Thomas Dukleth, David Nind |
| 20:55 | we are done! | |
| 20:55 | thx to everyone volunteering! | |
| 20:55 | moving on | |
| 20:56 | ? | |
| 20:56 | pianohacker | y |
| 20:56 | cait | #topic Hackfest in Berlin |
| 20:56 | Topic for #koha is now Hackfest in Berlin (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 May 2016) | |
| 20:56 | cait | drojf: ? |
| 20:56 | drojf | oh |
| 20:56 | well | |
| 20:57 | only a little places left | |
| 20:57 | seems to be an awesome event ;) | |
| 20:57 | can#t reeally say much new things | |
| 20:58 | Joubu | (just got an answer from fredericd: he is up for 16.05, or 3.20 if it's too late) |
| 20:59 | thd | We had not yet voted on rangi's offer. |
| 20:59 | ... If I recall correctly. | |
| 20:59 | drojf | i outsourced the debian packaging workshop to kohacon for the greater good ;) |
| 20:59 | cait | we elected, but we can still change |
| 21:00 | thd | rangi: Are you still here? |
| 21:01 | If rangi is no longer here, perhaps we could notify him and reopen the question at the next meeting. | |
| 21:01 | cait | next meeting uusally will be after the rlease with the normal schedule |
| 21:01 | but we could work something out | |
| 21:02 | thd | Yes, true. |
| 21:02 | cait | i guess one question is on what to do with 3.20 |
| 21:02 | do we still want to maintain it? | |
| 21:03 | oh the quiet | |
| 21:03 | gmcharlt | unless somebody is eager to maintain it, two stable releases seems sufficiently |
| 21:04 | Joubu | it should be easier than 16.05 |
| 21:04 | davidnind | Normally current + previous? older releases if there is a maintainer |
| 21:04 | pianohacker | if we drop it, do we still handle security patches? |
| 21:04 | it = 3.20 | |
| 21:05 | cait | pianohacker: needs someone to do it |
| 21:05 | Joubu | only 2 sounds weird to me, it's only 1 year |
| 21:06 | rangi | we normally have 3 |
| 21:06 | 18 months | |
| 21:06 | ill do 3.20 | |
| 21:06 | fredericd can do 16.05 | |
| 21:07 | cait | would that be ok with everyone if we voted on that again? Joubu: certain about fredericd? |
| 21:07 | andreashm | fine with me |
| 21:07 | davidnind | rangi++ |
| 21:07 | fine with me | |
| 21:08 | cait | #topic Re-Elections |
| 21:08 | Topic for #koha is now Re-Elections (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 May 2016) | |
| 21:08 | thd | vote again now |
| 21:08 | Joubu | "I was thinking about trying the stable 16.05 version" that's the translatable answer. So I'd say yes |
| 21:09 | cait | #startvote Change for RMaints: Frederic Demians (16.05), Chris Cormack (3.20)? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 21:09 | huginn | Begin voting on: Change for RMaints: Frederic Demians (16.05), Chris Cormack (3.20)? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 21:09 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 21:09 | cait | could someone update the wiki page for me please? |
| 21:09 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 21:09 | indradg | cait: on it |
| 21:09 | #vote yes | |
| 21:09 | Colinc | #vote yes |
| 21:09 | bgkriegel_ | #vote yes |
| 21:09 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 21:09 | andreashm | #vote yes |
| 21:10 | cait | #vote yes |
| 21:10 | thx indradg | |
| 21:10 | ending vote in a moment | |
| 21:10 | #endvote | |
| 21:10 | huginn | Voted on "Change for RMaints: Frederic Demians (16.05), Chris Cormack (3.20)?" Results are |
| 21:10 | yes (7): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, andreashm, Joubu, indradg | |
| 21:10 | cait | #agreed Change for RMaints: Frederic Demians (16.05), Chris Cormack (3.20) |
| 21:10 | moving on | |
| 21:10 | #topic KohaCon16 | |
| 21:10 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon16 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 May 2016) | |
| 21:11 | cait | ikourmou: still with us? |
| 21:11 | ikourmou | yep! |
| 21:11 | cait | yay1 |
| 21:11 | :) | |
| 21:11 | ikourmou | three weeks away... |
| 21:11 | thd` joined #koha | |
| 21:11 | ikourmou | we are making the final arrangements |
| 21:12 | we seem to have a little problem though lately | |
| 21:12 | thd` | I guess I was disconnected. Did I miss the revote? |
| 21:12 | ikourmou | more than 250 people registerd |
| 21:13 | rangi | whoa! |
| 21:13 | thats a good turnout :) | |
| 21:13 | cait | whoa indeed |
| 21:13 | ikourmou | and the venue we booked will not be enough for all of them |
| 21:13 | cait | #info more than 250 people registered |
| 21:13 | rangi | are you making them confirm? (so you get a better idea how many will actually show up) |
| 21:13 | ikourmou | but, yes, it;s a pleasant headache |
| 21:14 | rangi | my guess is if 250 register, 200ish will show |
| 21:14 | based on past experienc | |
| 21:14 | e | |
| 21:14 | pianohacker | thd`: yes: rangi for 3.20 and fredericd for 16.05 |
| 21:14 | ikourmou | I hope you are right @rangi |
| 21:15 | rangi | but it wouldn;t hurt to send out please confirm you are attending emails .. just so you have a better idea :) |
| 21:15 | ikourmou | anyway, we have another auditorium available and we will probably stream the whole event there too |
| 21:15 | cait | rangi: they send confirm if you don't come emails :) |
| 21:15 | sent | |
| 21:16 | rangi | oh, hmm i dont remember getting one |
| 21:16 | ikourmou | also more than 80 people stated that they are going to attend the hackfest |
| 21:16 | cait | wow too! |
| 21:16 | rangi | that would be great |
| 21:16 | drojf | lol wtf |
| 21:16 | do you have room for that? :) | |
| 21:16 | cait | lots of new devs to be recruited and testers |
| 21:17 | rangi | for that many people i reckon we might want to split into a few rooms |
| 21:17 | or it will be too loud | |
| 21:17 | ikourmou | I'm a little cautious with the last one, thinking that some (or many of them) don;t have a clear picture fo what a hackfest is... |
| 21:17 | rangi | beginners room, presentations room, projects room |
| 21:17 | or something | |
| 21:18 | the experienced devs could all take turns doing a few hours in the beginners room | |
| 21:18 | ikourmou | we are going to need your help and experience with this |
| 21:18 | rangi | creating new devs :) |
| 21:19 | ikourmou | I plan to send an email to the list asking for topics to deal with during the hackfest... |
| 21:20 | Joubu | just after the release, we will have hundreds of little bugs to fix :) |
| 21:20 | rangi | we will have the debian packaging tutorial .. i think having a room where people can do tutorials, presentations .. then some rooms where people can work |
| 21:20 | cait | yep |
| 21:20 | rangi | is a good way to do it |
| 21:20 | cait | yeah 80 in one room oculd get loud - but nto sure what is doable |
| 21:21 | i can help with beginners too - but maybe not with setting up installations | |
| 21:22 | rangi | i reckon there are enough of us, so that we can take turns |
| 21:22 | ikourmou | I would also like to ask the hackfest participants to spend some time dealing with the bugs / enhancements that are important for our library / installation. Do you think it;s ok? |
| 21:22 | rangi | i think thats a great idea ikourmou |
| 21:23 | * cait | agrees |
| 21:23 | davidnind | Was at a Drupal hackfest in Melbourne last year, over 100 in the room (setup was with 7 or 8 seats at round tables, screen at front), with hackfest volunteers in bright t-shirts working/helping new attendees and hackfest 'manager' keeping to a loose programme |
| 21:23 | cait | giving back something to the host... sounds very Koha I think? |
| 21:23 | rangi | cait: exactly |
| 21:24 | cait | :) |
| 21:24 | ikourmou | ok, thanks for the advice and ideas, the organizing committee will surely take them into account. |
| 21:25 | davidnind | perhaps more a flexible programme, rather than 'loose'... |
| 21:25 | cait | ikourmou: i think we are all very much lookin gforward to the conference - thx for the great work organizing it |
| 21:25 | Joubu | ikourmou: feel free to let us know the bug/enh list in advance |
| 21:25 | cait | yep |
| 21:25 | rangi | ikourmou++ |
| 21:25 | cait | ikourmou++ |
| 21:26 | davidnind | ikourmou++ |
| 21:26 | ikourmou | we might need some volunteers to chair some sessions, please keep that in mind ;-) |
| 21:26 | cait | just ask |
| 21:26 | indradg | ikourmou++ |
| 21:26 | ikourmou | ok, thx cait! |
| 21:27 | cait | :) |
| 21:27 | ok, any more questions kohacon? | |
| 21:27 | we have some remaining topics on the agenda | |
| 21:27 | KohaCon17 - no change in proposals, so maybe skip? | |
| 21:27 | voting process... as we are running late, maybe push that too | |
| 21:28 | and a vote on the draft rulles for thd grants committee | |
| 21:28 | is anyone of the funds committee available? | |
| 21:28 | bag? | |
| 21:28 | gmcharlt | I'll do it |
| 21:28 | cait | ah thx gmcharlt |
| 21:28 | bag | :) |
| 21:28 | cait | let me change topic |
| 21:29 | gmcharlt | ok |
| 21:29 | cait | #topic International koha Fund - Draft Rules for THT Grants Committee |
| 21:29 | Topic for #koha is now International koha Fund - Draft Rules for THT Grants Committee (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 May 2016) | |
| 21:29 | cait | #chair gmcharlt |
| 21:29 | huginn | Current chairs: cait drojf gmcharlt |
| 21:29 | gmcharlt | #info Minutes of the 19 April 2016 fundraising committee meeting: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_19_April_2016 |
| 21:29 | During the meeting, we discussed some changes to the draft rules for the grants subcommittee based on feedback at an earlier general IRC meeting | |
| 21:30 | #info Changes to draft rules: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]16342&oldid=16169 | |
| 21:30 | so, to enumerate the changes: | |
| 21:31 | - we clarified the wording about contract employees and how they affect the rule that any given organization can have only one member on the subcommittee | |
| 21:31 | - we changed quarter to period, as we don't expect to be reviewing grant applications quarterly (at least, not initially) | |
| 21:32 | - we fixed a reference | |
| 21:33 | #info Current version of grants committee rules: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_Grants_Committee | |
| 21:33 | so, per the agenda today, I would like to call a community vote on those grant committee draft rules | |
| 21:34 | upon a positive vote, they would then be forwarded to THT for their formal assent (although of course they've been following along during the development of the draft) | |
| 21:34 | so, before I call the vote, does anybody wish to ask questions or discuss? Out of respect to the length of the meeting, I will keep discussion limited to just five minutes | |
| 21:35 | (and if things prove controversial, defer the vote) | |
| 21:35 | davidnind | gmcharlt++ |
| 21:35 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 21:36 | bag | hmm looks like no questions - move to vote? |
| 21:37 | cait | +1 |
| 21:37 | gmcharlt | I'll give folks another 30 seconds before calling the vote |
| 21:37 | bag | (sorry if I am too quick ;) ) |
| 21:37 | * gmcharlt | hums a prestissimo version of the Imperial March from Star Wars |
| 21:38 | gmcharlt | and I'm done humming, and the 30 seconds have passed |
| 21:38 | bgkriegel_ | :) |
| 21:38 | gmcharlt | #vote Shall the draft rules for the Grants Committee be approved and formally forwarded to THT? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 21:38 | #startvote Shall the draft rules for the Grants Committee be approved and formally forwarded to THT? (yes,no,abstain) | |
| 21:38 | huginn | Begin voting on: Shall the draft rules for the Grants Committee be approved and formally forwarded to THT? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 21:38 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 21:38 | liw joined #koha | |
| 21:38 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 21:39 | thd` | #vote yes |
| 21:39 | andreashm | #vote yes |
| 21:39 | bgkriegel_ | #vote yes |
| 21:39 | gmcharlt | #vote yes |
| 21:40 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 21:40 | gmcharlt | I will hold the vote open for two more minutes |
| 21:40 | cait | #vote yes |
| 21:40 | bag | #vote yes |
| 21:41 | gmcharlt | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tGe3JE5IU |
| 21:41 | Colinc | #vote yes |
| 21:42 | gmcharlt | #endvote |
| 21:42 | huginn | Voted on "Shall the draft rules for the Grants Committee be approved and formally forwarded to THT?" Results are |
| 21:42 | yes (9): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, andreashm, thd`, bag, indradg, gmcharlt | |
| 21:42 | gmcharlt | #agreed The draft rules of the Grants Committe of the Koha International Fund have the assent of the Koha community and will be formally forwarded to THT |
| 21:43 | there is another matter to discuss, but given the time, I'll push it out to the next general meeting: changing article 4 to permit majority vote rather than consensus | |
| 21:43 | * gmcharlt | hands the meeting back to cait |
| 21:44 | cait | ok |
| 21:44 | i thnk given the time we will push actions to next | |
| 21:44 | as i see some things there noted ashomework and have some doubts people did their homework :) | |
| 21:44 | next meeting | |
| 21:44 | #topic Next Meeting | |
| 21:44 | Topic for #koha is now Next Meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 May 2016) | |
| 21:44 | cait | wednesday... |
| 21:45 | wednesday June 8? | |
| 21:45 | the week after kohacon | |
| 21:45 | 10 utc | |
| 21:46 | thd` | Is it 10 UTC next time? |
| 21:46 | cdickinson joined #koha | |
| 21:46 | thd` | cait++\ |
| 21:46 | davidnind | yep - sounds good to me |
| 21:46 | * cait | waits for vetos |
| 21:47 | cait | #agreed Next meeting will be held on June 8, 10 UTC |
| 21:47 | #endmeeting | |
| 21:47 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the #koha IRC chat | Code of conduct - https://koha-community.org/abo[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 21:47 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed May 4 21:47:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 21:47 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-05-04-20.04.html | |
| 21:47 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]6-05-04-20.04.txt | |
| 21:47 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]04-20.04.log.html | |
| 21:47 | cait | phew - thx everyone! |
| 21:47 | davidnind | cait++ |
| 21:47 | bgkriegel_ | cait++ |
| 21:47 | Bye | |
| 21:47 | davidnind left #koha | |
| 21:47 | gmcharlt | cait++ |
| 21:48 | Joubu | bye #koha |
| 21:48 | rangi | eythian: you about? |
| 21:50 | * thd` | runs to his appointment. |
| 21:52 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 21:52 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 9.0°C (11:20 PM CEST on May 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:52 | cait | @wunder Berlin, Germany |
| 21:52 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 10.0°C (11:20 PM CEST on May 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:58 | andreashm | @wunder Sion |
| 21:58 | huginn | andreashm: The current temperature in Sion military, Switzerland is 10.0°C (11:50 PM CEST on May 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:02 | eythian | rangi: sup? |
| 22:03 | rangi | just checking you saw my later, happy to bring anything you want, if you get it delivered to catalyst |
| 22:03 | cait | chocolate fish? |
| 22:04 | eythian | Ta, but no need, the headphones I wanted seem to no longer be made. Ascent doesn't have them any more. |
| 22:06 | rangi | ahh ascent are gone from the building too |
| 22:06 | they are near the third eye now | |
| 22:07 | level 4 is all catalyst | |
| 22:07 | eythian | Did catalyst take over the space? |
| 22:07 | rangi | yup |
| 22:07 | eythian | Ah, cool |
| 22:12 | andreashm | Anyone know if the presentations at KohaCon will be available afterwards or only streamed live? |
| 22:12 | cait | sorry, not sure |
| 22:12 | * andreashm | was going to ask ikourmou, but forgot |
| 22:13 | cait | if they are streaming to another room, maybe chance are good it's recorded same time |
| 22:13 | drojf | andreashm: how much do you pay? |
| 22:13 | rangi | its usually much easier to record for after than stream |
| 22:14 | drojf | sorry, just checking my market value. lol |
| 22:14 | andreashm | drojf: :P |
| 22:14 | drojf | i'd assume if there#s a stream there#s a record |
| 22:15 | andreashm | yeah, but it's not always but online I've noticed. |
| 22:16 | So I need to know if I can relax and look at the stuff I'm interested in late at night when the kids are sleeping, or if I need to pay attention to the schedule. =) | |
| 22:18 | reza joined #koha | |
| 22:19 | andreashm | Ok, it's getting late here. time for bed. bye #koha |
| 22:19 | rangi | cya andreashm |
| 22:41 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]ellington-porirua | |
| 22:42 | it finally rained today | |
| 22:50 | ibeardslee | puck has headed out there |
| 22:58 | eythian | I hear there's a nice pool in the carpark |
| 23:03 | papa joined #koha | |
| 23:06 | eythian | papa: hi |
| 23:07 | papa | hey, hi there! |
| 23:07 | reza joined #koha | |
| 23:07 | papa | how's life? |
| 23:10 | eythian | Oh, you no. Continental. |
| 23:10 | *know | |
| 23:11 | Apparently I'm also losing command of English | |
| 23:19 | aleisha joined #koha | |
| 23:19 | aleisha | hi all |
| 23:20 | cait | hi aleisha :) |
| 23:20 | rangi | hi aleisha |
| 23:20 | aleisha | been sick all week |
| 23:20 | cait | oh no |
| 23:20 | rangi | stink :( |
| 23:21 | cait | hope you feel better |
| 23:21 | rangi | missing pizza thursday |
| 23:21 | aleisha | yeah it's no fun :( thanks cait |
| 23:21 | UGH i always miss out | |
| 23:21 | will be on and off working on bugs when i get home from uni though | |
| 23:22 | rangi | only if you feel better :) |
| 23:46 | papa | eythian: maybe time to go to bed? |
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