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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | rangi | i can never find their vcs repos |
| 00:00 | dcook | They're on Github I believe |
| 00:01 | They used to have them on indexdata's website and recently migrated them | |
| 00:01 | https://github.com/indexdata/idzebra | |
| 00:01 | wizzyrea | drab, they must have closed the window |
| 00:02 | that does give the 404 | |
| 00:04 | rangi | cool |
| 00:04 | drab | wizzyrea: yeah, likely, I will confirm tomorrow as the lib guy comes to work. thank you. |
| 00:04 | wizzyrea | yep nw |
| 00:04 | rangi | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/idzebra |
| 00:04 | wizzyrea | should fix that interface. |
| 00:04 | rangi | i reckon the depending on docbook which has no maintainer won't be helping |
| 00:04 | wizzyrea | it's weird. |
| 00:04 | wahanui | did you try flushing the cache and deleting wahanui's cookies |
| 00:06 | dcook | rangi: Oh that's neat |
| 00:07 | The maintainer just doesn't seem keen | |
| 00:08 | The one I really don't understand is this person: http://search.cpan.org/~aar/Cr[…]b/Crypt/GCrypt.pm | |
| 00:08 | Their Github shows that they're active, but they ignore anything related to that git repo | |
| 00:09 | Surely a "I really don't want to maintain this anymore" would suffice... | |
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| 00:36 | drojf | hi dcook. i remember you had something to say about http::oai being broken, i just dont remember where. (which version is broken would be the interesting part for me) |
| 00:36 | dcook | So broken |
| 00:36 | 4.03 I think is the latest broken version | |
| 00:36 | 3.28 should be fine | |
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| 00:36 | dcook | drojf: ^ :) |
| 00:37 | drojf | ok. i could not build latest catmandu-oai with 4.x (they use it too, there is no escape), so mabe that is not my fault |
| 00:38 | dcook | Ew... why would they use it.. |
| 00:38 | *sadface* http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]u/Importer/OAI.pm | |
| 00:38 | drojf | why did you use it? … |
| 00:38 | dcook | I started the OAI stuff years ago before 4.03 came out :) |
| 00:39 | Now... I think about rolling my own implementation or taking over HTTP::OAI, but... | |
| 00:39 | I'm not a huge fan of HTTP::OAI in general | |
| 00:39 | drojf | there are no buts in koha land. do it now!!1 |
| 00:39 | dcook | The documentation isn't very good, parts of it don't work correctly at all |
| 00:39 | lol | |
| 00:40 | Too many projects, too little time | |
| 00:40 | More accurately, too little money I guess | |
| 00:40 | I wonder what they do for Catamandu::Importer::OAI... | |
| 00:41 | drojf: When you say build, is that from CPAN? | |
| 00:41 | Ahh right. They probably haven't noticed yet. | |
| 00:41 | As Debian Jessie uses 3.27 | |
| 00:41 | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libhttp-oai-perl | |
| 00:42 | 4.03 is coming down the pipes though and I don't think anyone at Debian has fixed it yet | |
| 00:42 | drojf | i dont they anyone there uses much debian |
| 00:42 | dcook | ? |
| 00:42 | Oh, there as in the Catmandu folk? | |
| 00:42 | drojf | yes |
| 00:43 | i'll ask about the oai thingy | |
| 00:43 | dcook | Sounds good :) |
| 00:43 | Overall, I'm happy to move to Catmandu::Importer::OAI, if it works | |
| 00:43 | For my purposes, I just need to be able to write the XML to disk | |
| 00:43 | drojf | i think i did my part in tracking the problem, lets have some free as in free beer user support :P |
| 00:44 | dcook | :) |
| 00:44 | drojf | no but seriously, they are really nice people. and i did not come closer than that version doed not work for me at all |
| 00:45 | dcook | Voila: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dis[…]tml?Name=HTTP-OAI |
| 00:45 | drojf | now hat you confirm you had problems with it its time to figure that out+ |
| 00:45 | dcook | fredericd also had problems with it |
| 00:46 | drojf | 3.27 is the last one before that? i thought i had a 3.29 but maybe i'm wrong |
| 00:46 | dcook | @seen eythian |
| 00:46 | huginn | dcook: eythian was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 8 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <eythian> magnuse: it is :) |
| 00:46 | dcook | @later tell eythian you're missed during Australian daylight hours! |
| 00:46 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:46 | dcook | drojf: I think it's 3.28 on CPAN, although Debian seems to say they use 3.27 |
| 00:47 | I think CPAN used to have more versions than just 3.28 and 4.03 on it | |
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| 00:47 | drojf | ok but then i can try with that and see what happens |
| 00:47 | dcook | cpanm HTTP::OAI3.28 :) |
| 00:47 | That's what I use here with openSUSE | |
| 00:47 | drojf | nah i build packages of everthing. it#s a debian thing. you should try it :P |
| 00:48 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:48 | I've done it a bit with some of the Perl we use that the community doesn't use | |
| 00:48 | As I do have one Ubuntu box for Koha | |
| 00:48 | I really should try making RPMs one of these days... | |
| 00:48 | Although I don't want to be Koha's RPM package manager :p | |
| 00:49 | drojf | there is still an open slot for an rmp packaging manager ;) |
| 00:49 | lol | |
| 00:49 | damn | |
| 00:49 | i even misspelled it to trick you into doing it | |
| 00:50 | dcook | lol |
| 00:50 | I still want to write Perl bindings for GPGME :p | |
| 00:50 | If only there were all the time in the world... | |
| 00:50 | drojf | i have no idea of rpm, but it would be cool to have it |
| 00:50 | dcook | It would make things a lot harder for support though :/ |
| 00:50 | It's so much easier just supporting Debian | |
| 00:50 | drojf | but i'm not going to learn it… and you are one of the few koha devs using it |
| 00:51 | dcook | I already get most of the Zebra queries. I don't want all the Zebra queries *and* RPM queries :p |
| 00:51 | Yeah, and I think there are some differences between Redhat RPMs and SUSE RPMs | |
| 00:51 | So I would get inundated with people wanting to install Koha on ancient Redhat | |
| 00:51 | Then I would just cry myself to sleep at night :p | |
| 00:51 | drojf | zebra is somethingsomethingdeadhorse soon. lets focus on ES and RPM package managing :P |
| 00:51 | dcook | Well, as rangi pointed out on koha-devel, Zebra will be around for a long while yet I think |
| 00:52 | If only for Z39.50 and SRU | |
| 00:52 | drojf | i know, but that is not what i would tell the soontoberpmmanager |
| 00:52 | dcook | lol |
| 00:52 | What we need is a new person to sucker into these tasks | |
| 00:52 | drojf | i was so close… next time! |
| 00:52 | dcook | Where is a new me from 4 years ago? |
| 00:52 | drojf | hehe |
| 00:53 | dcook | Actually, I don't know how many new developers have really joined up.. |
| 00:53 | drojf | yeah i could do a lot of koha stuff if i had another me doing the client stuff |
| 00:53 | that would be great | |
| 00:53 | dcook | so great |
| 00:53 | drojf | i actually have several funny ideas for catmandu in kohja |
| 00:53 | but no time to even draw it somewhere | |
| 00:53 | dcook | :( |
| 00:54 | Yeah, the only reason I'm typing right now is because I'm choosing between what I'm doing next today.. | |
| 00:54 | Or procrastinating adding OAI deletion support.. | |
| 00:54 | Really not overly happy with the OAI work I've done.. | |
| 00:54 | Feels a bit hacky in how I'm using Koha's import system | |
| 00:54 | drojf | i'm too awake from gravedigging in old databases for like 12 hours today., but i'm not useful for anything besides talking you inti rpm management :D |
| 00:55 | dcook | Yikes, 3am, eh? |
| 00:55 | drojf | something like that |
| 00:55 | dcook | I don't know how tcohen was a RM with a newborn |
| 00:55 | drojf | om the other hand, i know a lot about that ugly db now ;) |
| 00:55 | *on | |
| 00:57 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:58 | At this point, I'm trying to do more with Arduinos and such as well... | |
| 00:58 | A colleague gave me an Uno a while back, so I started playing with it a bit | |
| 00:58 | Then one of his colleagues gave me some LEDs... | |
| 00:58 | And now I'm waiting for a package of electronic goodies to occupy me for baby's brief naps :p | |
| 01:00 | drojf | excellent. build a selfcheck machine while the baby sleeps, train it in all things koha while its awake |
| 01:00 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:00 | Yeah, I was thinking of building a self-check machine | |
| 01:01 | Also want to get a better graphics card for my work machine, so that I can build some sort of library demo using Unreal Engine 4 :p | |
| 01:01 | drojf | maybe start with the first one ;) |
| 01:01 | dcook | Actually, I think the next project might be building a little device that monitors the climate in the bedroom so I know if baby is too hot or cold.. |
| 01:02 | Actually, a Raspberry Pi 3 would be better for that than an Arduino... | |
| 01:02 | Hook it into the WiFi and then it can alert me if I should get up and put more clothes on the bub | |
| 01:09 | drojf | is bub an english word? |
| 01:10 | the internet says its aus/nz english for baby :D | |
| 01:10 | dcook | British/Australia, I think? |
| 01:10 | Yep, haha | |
| 01:10 | I'm so used to my wife saying it | |
| 01:10 | I often tell her that she should speak English instead of Australian.. | |
| 01:13 | drojf | bube is an old german word for boy. it's bub (pronounced like boob) in southern germany, where it is more common in general. and there's bubele (in a lot of different spellings) in yiddish |
| 01:15 | anyway, i should go to bed. ;) good night dcook and #koha | |
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| 02:01 | dcook | I didn't know that you could add a pager to MySQL... |
| 02:01 | "\P less" ftw... | |
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | i always like the human readable \G |
| 02:02 | dcook | What's \G? (of course I'm not in mysql anymore :P) |
| 02:03 | florent | rangi: Good afternoon, I might have reached a crossroad making it worth creating a patch. |
| 02:03 | rangi | cool :) |
| 02:04 | florent | if you had the time to help, that would be ... safer :-) |
| 02:04 | rangi | is your patch built on top of the other patches? |
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| 03:19 | * Oak | waves |
| 03:22 | wizzyrea | hi oak |
| 03:22 | how goes the devbox odyssey | |
| 03:22 | Oak | Hey wizzyrea ! |
| 03:22 | very cool! | |
| 03:22 | wizzyrea | excellent :) |
| 03:23 | Oak | testing one bug right now Bug 16263 |
| 03:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Needs Signoff , Making authority tags and subfields actions buttons |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea | a+ |
| 03:23 | Oak | it works fine. would you take a look at the qa-tools output... I'm trying to decide whether to sign-off or not. |
| 03:24 | pastebot | "Oak" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "QA Tools Output for Bug 16263" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/419 |
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| 03:27 | wizzyrea | if you want to fix it you could add a follow up |
| 03:27 | Oak | question: is the FAIl related to the 16263 patch? |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | and mark the one signed off, and leave it "needs sign off" for the follow up |
| 03:28 | the tools should run on master cleanly | |
| 03:28 | Oak | got it. sure. |
| 03:28 | wizzyrea | the test tools are only looking at the difference between the files changed before and after the most recently applied patch |
| 03:29 | Oak | OKay. There were some changes + DB upgrade on master when I did git pull. |
| 03:30 | so may be one of the new patches is causing it. | |
| 03:30 | wizzyrea | mmm stuff doens't usually get pushed that causes qa tools failures |
| 03:30 | Oak | i see. |
| 03:30 | wizzyrea | to be sure though |
| 03:30 | your patch that you're testing should be at the tip of your branch | |
| 03:30 | Oak | can I test just that patch specifically? |
| 03:31 | wizzyrea | it's assuming that what you have applied on is clean |
| 03:31 | what I do, and you could do it differently | |
| 03:31 | is make a new branch based off of master for the bug | |
| 03:31 | apply the patch, test it | |
| 03:31 | Oak | I can delete the branch, and make a new branch checkout |
| 03:31 | wizzyrea | and run the tools on that branch |
| 03:31 | Oak | cool. doing it now. |
| 03:32 | wizzyrea | (of course you make sure your master branch is up to date with latest upstream master) |
| 03:32 | (before you make a branch for your bug) | |
| 03:32 | Oak | I'll do git pull on the master again. I did it 15 minutes ago though. |
| 03:32 | wizzyrea | I haven't seen anything come through that recently :) |
| 03:33 | Oak | got it. thank you :) |
| 03:34 | alright, new branch, ran qa tools before applying any patch, and all tests PASS. Now I'll apply that patch. | |
| 03:36 | Yup. Something causes in patch to fail qa tools. | |
| 03:36 | so that's that. | |
| 03:43 | wizzyrea | :) results are results! |
| 03:43 | florent | rangi: is it possible all dates used to test importing borrowers were wrongly formatted? |
| 03:44 | Oak | Yes :) |
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| 03:46 | rangi | it is :) |
| 03:46 | but i'd suspect unlikely | |
| 03:47 | Oak | wizzyrea, question: #1 if a patch results in things looking OK, but QA fails then should we just add a comment telling the patch developer that "Patch works OK, but QA fails"? Or #2, is it better/"the-way-to-do-it" to add a comment saying "patch works" and sign off, attach patch file, and THEN, add another comment telling QA fails, and revert the "signed off" to "needs sign off" |
| 03:49 | or is it #3, up to the sign off person's choice. | |
| 03:49 | wizzyrea | you can just fail qa there |
| 03:49 | seems harsh i know | |
| 03:49 | Oak | hmm. |
| 03:49 | wizzyrea | and yeah, say it works ok but fails the tools and give the output |
| 03:50 | if you put a follow up that fixes it, you can leave it needs sign off | |
| 03:50 | and sign off the original, if that makes sense | |
| 03:51 | aleisha | Hiya Oak |
| 03:51 | I wrote that patch | |
| 03:51 | Oak | hello aleisha :) |
| 03:51 | I know! | |
| 03:51 | :) | |
| 03:52 | aleisha | I don't really understand the QA fail though (don't know what it means) so if you can write a follow-up and attach that, that'd be cool! |
| 03:52 | would like to get this passed :) | |
| 03:52 | Oak | alright. |
| 03:58 | question: by "attach" you mean I attach the resulting patch? Even though it will have nothing different from your patch EXCEPT what's highlighted here http://i.imgur.com/t9rmNrL.png | |
| 03:58 | wizzyrea | correct |
| 03:59 | Oak | ok. cool. And I set the patch status to "failed qa" |
| 04:04 | * Oak | realizes sometimes, he is annoying when trying to understand something. |
| 04:06 | wizzyrea | it's all good :) |
| 04:06 | Oak | :) |
| 04:07 | oh, QA passed for Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel. | |
| 04:13 | florent | got it. us date format preference versus 'an other format preference' |
| 04:14 | rangi | ah yeah |
| 04:14 | florent | very visible now that errors are made visible :-) |
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| 06:00 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:01 | * dcook | waves to cait and magnuse |
| 06:01 | * magnuse | waves back |
| 06:02 | Oak | magnuse |
| 06:02 | magnuse | Oak |
| 06:02 | Oak | \o/ |
| 06:02 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 06:02 | hehe | |
| 06:02 | Oak | :D |
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| 06:18 | pastebot | "Oak" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "prove -v t/Perl.t command result for qa-tools" (345 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/420 |
| 06:19 | Oak | any idea what could be wrong here. |
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| 06:45 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:45 | Oak | hello reiveune |
| 06:45 | reiveune | salut Oak |
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| 06:56 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:58 | Oak | Bonjour Monsieur alex_a |
| 07:04 | alex_a | salut Oak |
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| 07:15 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:15 | wahanui | bidet, gaetan_B |
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| 07:38 | eythian | @later tell dcook if it's any consolation I was having beers with Australians yesterday! |
| 07:38 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:15 | magnuse | it's oh so quiet... |
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| 11:49 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
| 11:49 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:58 | Someone else gets the same qa tools error as me. I thought I was unique. Bug 16263 | |
| 11:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, arslanone, Needs Signoff , Making authority tags and subfields actions buttons |
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| 12:35 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:36 | jcamins: thanks for your message | |
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| 13:05 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
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| 13:18 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 13:19 | @later tell dcook i could install http::oai 4.x from debian testing without any problems, i just can't build the deb package from cpan. now i can build catmandu-oai too | |
| 13:19 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:26 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 13:26 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.8°C (10:25 AM ART on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:26 | tcohen | brrrr |
| 13:26 | hi drojf | |
| 13:26 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 13:26 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 13:26 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 8.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:26 | tcohen | brrrrrrr |
| 13:26 | drojf | we had snow a few days ago |
| 13:26 | i don't want this | |
| 13:26 | but the weather did not care ;) | |
| 13:27 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 13:27 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 7.1°C (3:19 PM CEST on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:27 | eythian | it's missing the fact that I had solid rain hitting me while biking in this morning. |
| 13:28 | drojf | lol. yeah that happens sometimes |
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| 13:30 | drojf | i got sunshine now! for a few minutes, until there is snow or rain or whatever |
| 13:32 | eythian | It's koningsdag tomorrow, the weather does not look promising for having thousands more people in the city than normal. |
| 13:32 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 13:32 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 16.0°C (9:32 AM EDT on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
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| 13:33 | drojf | orange umbrella salespeople will have the best day ever |
| 13:33 | eythian | drojf: yes, yes they will :) |
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| 13:54 | * oleonard | should hire a mechanical turk just to input random acquisitions data into his test system |
| 13:55 | kidclamp | I have had to be much more mindful of the words I use when entering 'crap' data since I have to do demos occasionally |
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| 14:46 | pianohacker | yo |
| 14:46 | tcohen | hi pianohacker |
| 14:46 | * cait | waves |
| 14:47 | tcohen | hey cait |
| 14:52 | pianohacker | hi tcohen |
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| 15:00 | * cait | waves |
| 15:03 | * JesseM | waves |
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| 15:19 | * Oak | waves |
| 15:20 | bag | morning |
| 15:21 | oleonard | Hi Oak |
| 15:21 | Oak | Hello wizzyrea, cait |
| 15:21 | heya oleonard | |
| 15:21 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 15:21 | Oak | hello bag |
| 15:22 | bag | hi hi |
| 15:24 | Oak | oleonard, I'll also ignore that same Plugins.pm message in future then... if all else looks OK. |
| 15:25 | oleonard | Yeah I wish I knew why it did that. It makes me think some valid errors will slip through. |
| 15:29 | Oak | hmm. Yes, that too. |
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| 15:40 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:44 | oleonard | Joubu around? |
| 15:47 | Joubu | oleonard: yep |
| 15:48 | oleonard | Regarding Bug 3534... |
| 15:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Patron quick add form |
| 15:48 | oleonard | I think the unanswered question is, how do you choose which version of the form is default? |
| 15:50 | If we take away the separate quick add button, then we have to choose a default | |
| 15:51 | Maybe I'm thinking too much about it. I'm concerned that a library will want to have the option of patron quick add, but not want it to be default. | |
| 15:51 | kidclamp I think your sponsor must want it to be default if PatronQuickAddFields is defined. | |
| 15:52 | Joubu | oleonard: I'd say the default is the current form |
| 15:52 | and a switch button would allow to switch to the quick form | |
| 15:54 | I was thinking about some JS code to "enable" the button when the user is on the patron add form | |
| 15:54 | but don't think it could work | |
| 15:55 | kidclamp | We could have a second pref: defaulttoquickadd |
| 15:56 | I liked the second button because it took all of that decision away | |
| 15:57 | and let staff have either they wanted without deciding for all libraries | |
| 15:58 | oleonard | Yeah I'm thinking now that the second button is probably best. |
| 15:59 | kidclamp | it could just say 'Quick add' instead of 'Quick add new patron' |
| 15:59 | oleonard | It's not like we're running out of space in that toolbar. |
| 16:01 | Joubu | oleonard: if you agree, I am fine with the second button |
| 16:01 | oleonard | My suggestion for the toggle controls on the form itself: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14616864787044 |
| 16:02 | kidclamp | oleonard: is that a link with a fa icon? |
| 16:03 | oleonard | Yes |
| 16:03 | kidclamp | okay, will move buttons to top of both forms and convert to links |
| 16:03 | oleonard | kidclamp: I can submit a followup for that if you'd like |
| 16:04 | kidclamp | I wouldn't stop ya ;-) |
| 16:04 | oleonard++ | |
| 16:09 | Joubu | oleonard: don't you think we should also be able to switch from full to quick? |
| 16:11 | oleonard | Yes the link changes based on which view it is |
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| 16:45 | oleonard | Hey I'll bet you're bored and don't want to do work but you want to look busy so why not sign off on Bug 16238? The last patch is just a whitespace fix. |
| 16:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16238 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Upgrade jQuery in staff client: use .prop() instead of .attr() |
| 16:47 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16328: follow-up for bug 15044 - Fix datatable error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2b65b06b98ce61c34> | |
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| 17:06 | oleonard | bgkriegel++ # Looking busy! |
| 17:12 | khall around? | |
| 17:12 | khall | what's up? |
| 17:13 | oleonard | I just tried uploading a plugin and it failed. Is that something you've tested recently? |
| 17:13 | khall | oleonard: can't say I have. I'll give it a shot as well |
| 17:14 | oleonard | No visible error message. All I see in the log is something about "Use of uninitialized value $op in string eq" |
| 17:15 | kidclamp | which plugin oleonard? |
| 17:18 | oleonard | MARC checker |
| 17:19 | kidclamp | did the upload fail or it just didn't show? |
| 17:19 | and do you have all perl dependencies? | |
| 17:19 | khall | oleonard: I think that one needs extra libs |
| 17:19 | tcohen | libmarc-lint-perl |
| 17:19 | khall | that's the one |
| 17:20 | we need some kind of dependency declaration system for plugins | |
| 17:20 | or docs with large bold text | |
| 17:23 | oleonard: looks like the files didn't get installed, so that's not the issue | |
| 17:23 | you should have gotten an error if the plugins dir wasn't writable | |
| 17:44 | oleonard | Okay yeah I didn't see the dependencies because instructions are for suckers and I'm a go-getter. |
| 17:48 | khall: Some plugins can uninstall themselves and some can't? | |
| 17:49 | khall | each plugin should have an uninstall sub for cleaning up after themselves |
| 17:49 | short answer, correct | |
| 17:50 | oleonard: if it's one of mine I can update it it pretty easily for you | |
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| 17:51 | oleonard | I'm just poking around at the moment, not trying to accomplish anything in particular except examine the way the templates work. |
| 17:51 | khall | gotcha |
| 17:51 | oleonard | I was curious why there was no uninstall link for the MARC checker plugin (which shows up now that the dependency is satisfied) |
| 17:52 | khall | oleonard: I think we should maybe add a "force uninstall" option or some other way of allowing plugins to be uninstalled even if they don't have an uninstall method |
| 17:52 | no real reason not to | |
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| 17:56 | cait | there are some reamining bugs with edifact - like the obsolete link on tools that leads nowhere - is someone working on those? |
| 17:56 | also a problem with the preferences | |
| 18:01 | oleonard | The "EDIfact messages" page in Acquisitions doesn't show any means of adding an EDIfact message. Shouldn't it? |
| 18:02 | Or is that something which is added by the process? | |
| 18:02 | I know nothing about it. | |
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| 18:16 | bag | added by the process |
| 18:20 | cait | bag: check the tools page - there is another edifact messages there |
| 18:20 | i think we need to remove it | |
| 18:20 | bag | ah I thought we already did |
| 18:21 | cait | still there |
| 18:21 | there is also a bit of a mess with preferences - one is showing up under local use, tcohen filed a bug for it, all linked from the main one | |
| 18:23 | bag | yup we’re on it cait |
| 18:23 | khall: is looking at it now | |
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| 18:26 | cait | cool |
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| 18:57 | oleonard | How do you manually remove a plugin if it doesn't have an uninstall link? |
| 18:57 | I guess you can just manually construct an uninstall link using the class name. | |
| 18:57 | Does a "correct" uninstall remove data from the plugin_data table? | |
| 18:59 | I will take my answer off the air | |
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| 20:04 | andreashm | hey #koha |
| 20:18 | tcohen | hey andreashm |
| 20:18 | andreashm | hi tcohen! |
| 20:19 | what's up? | |
| 20:22 | tcohen | hey |
| 20:22 | i'm trying to code a bit | |
| 20:24 | andreashm | nice! |
| 20:26 | Anyone know of any good examples of libraries using Koha as a OAI-PMH server? (For use with a Discovery system) | |
| 20:26 | tcohen: how's spring in Argentina? | |
| 20:27 | tcohen | we are entering autuum |
| 20:28 | andreashm | oh yeah, sorry |
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| 20:32 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 20:32 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 14.9°C (5:30 PM ART on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:37 | andreashm | @wunder Sion, Switzerland |
| 20:37 | huginn | andreashm: The current temperature in Sion military, Switzerland is 9.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising). |
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| 20:48 | pianohacker | andreashm: you may wish to get in touch with dcook |
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| 20:56 | cait | andreashm: I know of a library using it with ebsco's discovery layer |
| 20:58 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev for Bug 12478 - Elasticsearch support for Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]618790f516b5889c5> / Bug 12748: (QA followup) make new tests pass <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87cc27ae59c53bcf9> / Bug 12748: (QA followup) fix several tiny QA tools warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]web/?p=koha.git;a |
| 21:03 | tcohen | woooooooooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooo |
| 21:04 | @later tell andreashm I didn't read your question, I have some customers using EDS with the Koha I provide | |
| 21:04 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:08 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12478: (RM followup) fix syntax error in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0916afd4e1e16cc8c> | |
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| 21:11 | andreashm | back |
| 21:11 | got logged out | |
| 21:12 | tcohen | hi andreashm |
| 21:12 | andreashm | cait, tcohen: did you have examples that use oai? |
| 21:12 | tcohen | i'm about to leave |
| 21:12 | did you have a specific question? | |
| 21:12 | cait | andreashm: we just turned it on for ebsco - and they use it |
| 21:12 | no questions | |
| 21:13 | andreashm | just good examples of how it works, to provide info via oai |
| 21:13 | tcohen | we had to make items available through OAI |
| 21:13 | bag | @later tell Joubu can you rebase this for me? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14899 (I’ll get some testers on that immediately) thanks |
| 21:13 | cait | it seemed like they already used oai with other kohas |
| 21:13 | huginn | bag: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:13 | 04Bug 14899: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Mapping configuration page for Elastic search | |
| 21:13 | tcohen | bag++ |
| 21:13 | rangi++ | |
| 21:13 | koha++ | |
| 21:13 | es++ | |
| 21:13 | andreashm | saw on an old post on the mailinglist that using oai wasn't sufficient for real time availability checking (with eds) |
| 21:14 | cait | we are using a daia api |
| 21:14 | it's developed on top of Koha's SRU i think | |
| 21:14 | andreashm | daia? |
| 21:14 | tcohen | ah |
| 21:14 | cait | so SRU might be fast enough |
| 21:15 | tcohen | andreashm: thats's correct |
| 21:15 | you need to allow remote access to the SRU server | |
| 21:15 | so they query availability | |
| 21:15 | andreashm | ah, cool |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | [09:13] <tcohen> we had to make items available through OAI < I feel like we've done this as well |
| 21:15 | tcohen | so, enable OAI + include_items |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | dunno eythian did all of that |
| 21:16 | also hi | |
| 21:16 | * andreashm | waves |
| 21:16 | tcohen | and then make sure they can access your SRU server |
| 21:16 | hi wizzyrea | |
| 21:16 | cait | andreashm: 'document availability information api' - my coworker built a server for providing it to the different ILS we support - but i know he uses SRU underneath |
| 21:16 | * tcohen | leaves |
| 21:16 | tcohen | bye everyone |
| 21:16 | andreashm | bye tcohen! thanks for the info! |
| 21:17 | tcohen | koha++ |
| 21:17 | :-P | |
| 21:17 | andreashm | tcohen++ |
| 21:17 | cait++ | |
| 21:17 | bag | tcohen++ |
| 21:19 | Bug 16249 | |
| 21:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16249 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Zebra-specific tests should pass with ES disabled |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | https://t.co/h5E91nYrt4 eythian you would kick ass at this. |
| 21:28 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16249: Zebra-specific tests should pass with ES disabled <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]582ff0ca21f7f51e5> |
| 21:29 | cait | huh |
| 21:32 | andreashm | does bug 15165 apply for anyone else? |
| 21:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15165 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , REST API routes to list, edit and pay borrower's accountlines |
| 21:33 | andreashm | We have tested it at Stockhol Univ and I wanted to apply to do a sign-off, but can't apply it here |
| 21:34 | heh. Stockholm. | |
| 21:36 | cait | did you apply the dependency? |
| 21:36 | andreashm | cait: ah, I missed that. will try again. thanks! |
| 21:36 | cait | np |
| 21:40 | andreashm | yay, it worked! |
| 21:40 | but now it's getting late, have to finish that tomorrow. | |
| 21:40 | cait++ | |
| 21:40 | bye #koha | |
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| 21:44 | francesca | Good morning |
| 21:44 | wahanui | well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
| 21:44 | francesca | I'll be in sometime in the next hour or so |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | cool |
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| 21:58 | cait | ah, too bad oleonard is gone already |
| 21:58 | keep wanting to ask him questions | |
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| 22:26 | cait | khall_away: ? |
| 22:31 | pianohacker | he's away ;) |
| 22:32 | what's up cait | |
| 22:32 | cait | ah, i left a comment |
| 22:33 | pianohacker | oh, interesting |
| 22:33 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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| 23:08 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16354 - TestBuilder.t fails due to key constraints <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b66bb638ddc54986> |
| 23:18 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16154: Fix some other occurrences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6bfe2f375ccc9b713> / Bug 16154: CGI->multi_param - Assign a list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]813071951bc600ae4> / Bug 16154: CGI->multi_param - Force scalar context <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iff;h=f3e4b5bbb6b | |
| 23:31 | bag | rangi if I missed any of the ES bugs that need to be moved to Pushed to Master - let me know - I think I grabbed them all |
| 23:32 | rangi | cool will do |
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| 23:55 | rangi | bag: do have ssh access to any of the jenkins nodes? |
| 23:55 | they will need a couple of modules installed | |
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| 23:58 | bag | no - I usually ask tcohen to install those |
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