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| 00:11 | kidclamp | rangi around? |
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| 01:42 | mtompset | @seen kidclamp |
| 01:42 | huginn | mtompset: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <kidclamp> rangi around? |
| 01:46 | kidclamp | yes? |
| 01:46 | mtompset, saw the update, should I test marcview only? | |
| 01:47 | mtompset | ISBD is a pain to close completely. |
| 01:47 | I'll write up a better test plan tomorrow. | |
| 01:47 | I'm going to git bz attach my work to the bug. | |
| 01:47 | kidclamp | alirght, I will test tomorrow then :-) Thanks for the hard work |
| 01:51 | rangi | am now |
| 01:52 | kidclamp | I posted on bug 16282 |
| 01:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16282 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Usernames should be case sensitive |
| 02:01 | rangi | ta |
| 02:02 | commented back | |
| 02:05 | kidclamp | The emulator says it will look up patron by userid, but it didn't seem to be case sensitive before or after patch |
| 02:05 | mtompset | Thanks for testing, kidclamp. Sorry it was more broken than I thought. :) |
| 02:05 | rangi | ill check it out |
| 02:05 | kidclamp | hehe, that's what testing is for |
| 02:05 | * mtompset | grumbles about carts and lists. |
| 02:06 | mtompset | Have a good night, #koha kidclamp rangi wizzyrea |
| 02:07 | ^night^day^ | |
| 02:07 | kidclamp | you too mtompset |
| 02:07 | following you out | |
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| 04:10 | dcook | Nothing like a mandatory Windows restart... |
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| 04:54 | mtj | hey dcook, thanks for the SRU info :) |
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| 06:05 | magnuse | bag++ |
| 06:08 | dcook | mtj: No worries :) |
| 06:08 | I hadn't tried SRU before today, but the off-list email presented some interesting challenges :) | |
| 06:08 | I should really update the documentation and maybe some wiki pages.. | |
| 06:44 | magnuse | dcook: or just go home... ;-) |
| 06:45 | dcook | It's only 4:45pm! :p |
| 06:45 | magnuse | yay! |
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| 06:52 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:54 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
| 06:54 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:54 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:54 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 06:54 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 15.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on April 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:54 | alex_a | bonjour magnuse |
| 06:54 | magnuse | @wunder thessaloniki |
| 06:54 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 15.0°C (9:20 AM EEST on April 21, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:55 | * magnuse | thought the stuff falling out of the sky this morning looked suspiciously like snow |
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| 07:00 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:40 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:40 | magnuse | @later tell nengard there was a question on koha-devel about how to submit patches for the docs. what method do you prefer? |
| 07:40 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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| 07:41 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:45 | marcelr | bon jour gaetan_B |
| 07:45 | and hi magnuse | |
| 07:58 | * cait | waves |
| 08:01 | marcelr | hi cait |
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| 08:28 | magnuse | hi cait marcelr and gaetan_B |
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| 09:00 | SamEEE | hai friends! |
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| 09:14 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 10:44 | kivilahtio | Do we have any default patron/user/borrower which could be considered as the default user for commandline scripts? |
| 10:45 | when you log in to OPAC or staff client, the userenv is autoatically set for the person logged in. | |
| 10:45 | how about commandline scripts/cronjobs? | |
| 10:46 | should there be a default koha.borrowers-row with borrowernumber = 1 who would populate the userenv for cronjobs? | |
| 10:46 | I see the sample_borrowers.sql introduces Koha Admin (1), but this is not a mandatory borrowers-entry | |
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| 10:58 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 10:59 | marcelr | kivilahtio: cronjobs are not associated with a user normally |
| 10:59 | hi drojf | |
| 10:59 | kivilahtio | hi drojf |
| 10:59 | marcelr: usually, but I have a cronjob which can be operated by a user from the GUI and from the commandline | |
| 10:59 | marcelr: And the database constraints I have require a user to be associated with the operation results | |
| 11:00 | I could loose the DB constraints, or make a default commandline user | |
| 11:01 | marcelr | probably the second |
| 11:01 | kivilahtio | then it would be easy to display the default commandline user as the operator/culprit |
| 11:01 | marcelr: this way the GUI behaves consistently | |
| 11:01 | marcelr | the combination of cron and GUI seems to be a nasty one often |
| 11:02 | kivilahtio | marcelr: nothing nasty here, apart from the default cronjob user missing :) |
| 11:02 | marcelr: just curious if others have default users | |
| 11:03 | marcelr: I was planning to set the default commandline user based on the followiung rules, | |
| 11:03 | borrowernumber = 1, userid = 'koha', userid = 'admin' ?? | |
| 11:03 | I mean one of the above | |
| 11:03 | marcelr | a null or 0 could imply admin too |
| 11:03 | kivilahtio | but not sure if it will work for most of the libraries |
| 11:03 | hmm, true | |
| 11:03 | marcelr | i think that i see 0 in the koha log |
| 11:04 | modifiaction log etc | |
| 11:04 | kivilahtio | but if admin was a real user, then we could name him from the normal borrowers-module, to whatever localization we want |
| 11:04 | marcelr: hmm. I guess 0 is a good choice | |
| 11:04 | marcelr | we touch the whole admin user discussion here |
| 11:04 | kivilahtio | yup |
| 11:05 | having the Admin-user in DB makes alot of sense for me, we could get rid of all the extra '0':es and the code needed to maintain the disparity | |
| 11:05 | if we for some reason cannot find the admin-user in DB, then it is autocreated | |
| 11:06 | something like that | |
| 11:06 | marcelr | well start the discussion and have some patience :) |
| 11:07 | kivilahtio | marcelr: haha, I have no patience |
| 11:07 | marcelr | you need it here |
| 11:07 | kivilahtio | marcelr: I need to get some test runs by tomorrow |
| 11:07 | patience wont help me keep up to my quota | |
| 11:07 | marcelr | but you like to upgrade too at some point in time.. |
| 11:07 | kivilahtio | marcelr: but I know what you mean. Thank you for tipping your ear! |
| 11:07 | marcelr | ok |
| 11:08 | kivilahtio | marcelr: we are targeting this summer to move from 3.16 to 3.24 |
| 11:08 | marcelr | great |
| 11:08 | kivilahtio | marcelr: we are doing a lot of process improvements and rebasing a lot of code :) |
| 11:08 | marcelr | the bad performance is a killer |
| 11:08 | kivilahtio | marcelr: I agree |
| 11:08 | marcelr | dbix |
| 11:08 | kivilahtio | marcelr: that is the reason I am so hyped up about the REST API |
| 11:09 | marcelr: it still has poor performance? | |
| 11:09 | marcelr | 3.22 too |
| 11:09 | kivilahtio | marcelr: we have a custom feature biblio_data_elements where we extract data in Zebra index to MariaDB, and i made comparison runs with DBIx vs DBI and DBIx was 7-times slower |
| 11:09 | marcelr | yeah |
| 11:10 | kivilahtio | marcelr: so it takes ~30minutes with DBI to go through all our bibliographic records and extract MARC data to a DB table, with DBIx... we couldnt really use it |
| 11:10 | marcelr: any ide awhy DBIx is so slow? | |
| 11:11 | marcelr | its loading everything |
| 11:11 | when you only need one table | |
| 11:11 | kivilahtio | marcelr: that is one issue, but it is not a biggie when we move to plack/Mojolicious |
| 11:11 | you only load it when you start the Mojolicious (or plack ) -daemon | |
| 11:12 | marcelr | we force each lib to plack now, and i fear that it will become an issue |
| 11:12 | kivilahtio | but I dont understand why in one batch-job it takes 7 times more time |
| 11:12 | marcelr: memory leaks :) | |
| 11:12 | marcelr | probably |
| 11:12 | kivilahtio | marcelr: luckily we have 128GB |
| 11:12 | marcelr | thats why it will becvome a problem |
| 11:12 | kivilahtio | I was planning to move to Mojolicious and leave the old CGI code running on Mojolicious_legacy and start refactoring stuff to Mojliicious |
| 11:13 | but the test suite needs to be improved to spot memory leaks | |
| 11:13 | that is hard | |
| 11:13 | marcelr | yes |
| 11:14 | kivilahtio | marcelr: strange thin in DBIx is that there is no caching |
| 11:14 | drojf | anyone got experience setting up an oracle db server on recent debian? apparently that is the only way to use an oracle db dump :( |
| 11:14 | kivilahtio | drojf: sorry |
| 11:14 | drojf: I have enough with just MAriaDB/MySQL and Ubuntu 14.04 | |
| 11:14 | drojf | oracle-- |
| 11:14 | kivilahtio | I don't want any extr apain |
| 11:14 | drojf | i understand ;) me neither |
| 11:15 | kivilahtio | :) |
| 11:15 | drojf | it may actually happen to me more often that i need it, so i consider setting up a vm once. on the other hand, i totally don't want to :P |
| 11:16 | kivilahtio | marcelr: I ran the NYTProf on our script and it looks like DBIx actually loads all the tables many times during the batch run |
| 11:16 | marcelr: every time a new rsultset is fetched from the Koha::Object | |
| 11:17 | drojf: yeah, you could juts intall a non-recent Debian :) | |
| 11:17 | or use LXC? | |
| 11:17 | drojf: we use LXC for everything, it freaking rocks | |
| 11:17 | drojf | the recentness is not my biggest concern. the db is ancient, an ancient debian would do. still there is the "set up oracle db server" part |
| 11:18 | kivilahtio | drojf: I guess it is not done with apt-get install oracle-server ? |
| 11:18 | ;) | |
| 11:19 | drojf | more like this https://wiki.debian.org/DataBase/Oracle which i would go through if i knew it still works. the last changed date is promising, but i thought its worth asking here before |
| 11:19 | liw | drojf, hi |
| 11:20 | drojf | hi liw |
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| 11:22 | drojf | liw: got an email this morning, doing the workshop in greece would be an option from the organizer's side. i hope to discuss it tomorrow so we can make plans. i will probably not get to it today, but working on it |
| 11:22 | liw | drojf, that sounds cool |
| 11:23 | drojf, thank you :) | |
| 11:23 | drojf | yeah i think it will work one way or the other |
| 11:23 | thank you :) | |
| 11:23 | marcelr: will you be in greece? | |
| 11:26 | kivilahtio | drojf: marcelr: any idea if there is a preconference? |
| 11:26 | Looks like I need to come ti Greece this year, and looking for trouble for the preconference weekend | |
| 11:27 | drojf | then i won't tell you where the preconference is ^^ |
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| 11:27 | kivilahtio | :) |
| 11:28 | drojf: But looks like the city regulations are tightening up and now you cannot even fly to another country except for precisely the dates in the agenda | |
| 11:28 | drojf | huh? from which side? your employer? |
| 11:28 | kivilahtio | hence I was hoping there was some kind of a preconference |
| 11:29 | drojf: yes, they dont like it that other employees can fly to other countries, so they try to make life equally miserable for everybody | |
| 11:29 | drojf | lol |
| 11:29 | kivilahtio | You have to pay the flights yourself if you want to take extra days off to enjoy Greece |
| 11:29 | drojf | got to use a vpn, brb |
| 11:30 | kivilahtio | hence I was asking ifthere is a preconference so I can cook up an official preconference invitation for them and arrive to Greece on the thursday/friday before the conference |
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| 11:38 | marcelr | drojf: yes i come to greece |
| 11:41 | kivilahtio | marcelr: he is gone already :( |
| 11:41 | marcelr | np |
| 11:41 | cait | @later tell drojf i know about someone coming to greece who would be interested to learn about packages |
| 11:41 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:41 | cait | @later tell not me, will tell you more later :) |
| 11:41 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:41 | cait | hm |
| 11:41 | @later tell drojf not me - but will tell you more later | |
| 11:41 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:44 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 11:44 | oleonard | Hi |
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| 11:44 | drojf | hm |
| 11:45 | cait: ? | |
| 11:58 | oleonard | Bug 16314 |
| 11:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16314 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Hover text on upload file icon plugin incorrect |
| 11:59 | oleonard | What setting is required to enable an 'upload' link on an 856 tag? |
| 12:02 | marcelr | oleonard: upload is just a plugin like the others (technically) |
| 12:02 | oleonard | Oh, so you have to enable it in the framework? |
| 12:02 | marcelr | yes |
| 12:04 | oleonard | I wonder what subfield |
| 12:04 | marcelr | 856u |
| 12:04 | the plugin pasts an URL back in to that field | |
| 12:05 | oleonard | Ah, makes sense. Thanks marcelr |
| 12:20 | not | hm |
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| 12:26 | marcelr | hi not |
| 12:26 | not? | |
| 12:26 | wahanui | not is, like, maybe removed from my search |
| 12:26 | marcelr | not already got away, wahanui |
| 12:26 | wahanui | marcelr: huh? |
| 12:27 | marcelr | yes |
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| 12:34 | nengard | HA |
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| 12:46 | tcohen | ¡buen día! |
| 12:47 | marcelr | !hola tcohen |
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| 13:04 | magnuse | ooh, look at that easy signoff on bug 16316 :-) |
| 13:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make it possible to limit patron search to surname |
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| 13:15 | oleonard | magnuse: "Set "Search fields" = Surname and search for "doe". Neither "Doe John" nor "John Doe" should show up." |
| 13:15 | I don't understand that one. | |
| 13:17 | * oleonard | lives in constant fear lately that he will sign off on a bug only to find out mveron beat him to it |
| 13:17 | oleonard | mveron++ |
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| 13:21 | tcohen | drojf: thanks for checking my patch |
| 13:21 | (bug 15263, which is key to performance boost) | |
| 13:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , XSLT display fetches sysprefs for every result processed |
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| 13:30 | oleonard | I honestly didn't think Bug 15883 was going to make it so quickly--if at all! |
| 13:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15883 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Upgrade jQuery from v1.7.2 in the staff client |
| 13:30 | oleonard | Thanks go jajm and Joubu for pushing me to figure out the best way to implement it. |
| 13:30 | drojf | i'm a bit scared it did |
| 13:31 | i thought we could do that somewhen after 16.05 | |
| 13:32 | * oleonard | offers drojf a comforting blanket |
| 13:33 | tcohen | drojf: don't you like adrenaline flowing through your nervous system? |
| 13:33 | marcelr | tcohen: could you check if you have the same tests failing as bernardo in bug 16155 (some pass with me) |
| 13:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16155 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Composite keys in TestBuilder and more |
| 13:33 | drojf | tcohen: i had enough of that for today |
| 13:33 | tcohen | marcelr: sure |
| 13:33 | marcelr | thx |
| 13:33 | jajm | it would have been safer to wait after release, but at least it's done :) |
| 13:34 | tcohen | did bgkriegel mention in which env did he test? |
| 13:34 | marcelr | no |
| 13:34 | tcohen | i'll ask him |
| 13:34 | marcelr | good |
| 13:34 | tcohen | i would like to note, that master packages are older than v3.22.0 |
| 13:35 | that means that you devs don't have koha-perldeps deal with CURRENT dependencies | |
| 13:35 | marcelr | o those devs |
| 13:35 | tcohen | that could lead to things failing, of course |
| 13:35 | marcelr | true |
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| 13:36 | marcelr | in this case i imagine that a db structure that is not completely in good shape adds too |
| 13:36 | e.g. deletedborrowers | |
| 13:37 | tcohen | marcelr: exaplin? |
| 13:37 | marcelr | if he missed some db revs somehow or a dbrev from testing or so |
| 13:37 | probaly the last | |
| 13:37 | that could change things | |
| 13:37 | tcohen | that's probable |
| 13:38 | * tcohen | goes test the bug |
| 13:38 | marcelr | thx; will come back later |
| 14:03 | tcohen | git-bisect++ |
| 14:06 | oleonard | git bisect + git blame = Law & Order |
| 14:06 | tcohen | hahahahah |
| 14:10 | kivilahtio | tcohen: ansible++ |
| 14:12 | tcohen | kivilahtio: ansible++ |
| 14:12 | kivilahtio | tcohen: thos it looks like it is proprietary software |
| 14:13 | tcohen | kivilahtio: it isn't |
| 14:13 | they have the ansible tower thing | |
| 14:15 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 14:15 | tcohen: are you coming to KohaCon? | |
| 14:15 | tcohen | no :-/ |
| 14:15 | will follow the action from cordoba | |
| 14:15 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 14:15 | sorry to hear that | |
| 14:16 | tcohen | yeah, several changes here keep me from going |
| 14:17 | kivilahtio | tcohen: we never run out of things to do. Sometimes you just need to take a break :) |
| 14:17 | and come back to a falling empire | |
| 14:17 | :) | |
| 14:17 | tcohen | =D |
| 14:17 | kivilahtio | that happens to me all the time |
| 14:17 | tcohen | if there's a marseille hackfest |
| 14:17 | on the second semester | |
| 14:17 | i could try attending | |
| 14:18 | kivilahtio | ok ok |
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| 14:37 | geek_cl | Hi folks, i have an borrowernumber that not receive notifications, where that patron have 107 value on days_due, the primary email is defined. |
| 14:38 | days_overdue=107 | |
| 14:39 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: we have had similar issues, occasionally the SMS service provider cannot send the SMS:es |
| 14:39 | geek_cl: how do you know the email was not sent? | |
| 14:39 | geek_cl | we use MTA , not SMS |
| 14:40 | kivilahtio, "There is no record of any messages that have been sent to this patron." | |
| 14:40 | nothing in maillogs and messages_queue | |
| 14:40 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: the message_queue-table is emtpy? |
| 14:40 | for hte borrower | |
| 14:40 | geek_cl | kivilahtio, yes |
| 14:40 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: and the borrower message attributes are properly configured? |
| 14:40 | geek_cl: can you send any email to the borrower? | |
| 14:41 | geek_cl: if you set the borrower to receive email when he checks items out, do they get delivefered? | |
| 14:41 | geek_cl | the attributes are OK, and yes, i can send emails from the server |
| 14:42 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: so echo "messagecontent" | sendmail -c 'borowerexample.com' works |
| 14:42 | Or a similar oneliner spell from the command line? | |
| 14:42 | using sendmail postfix, ... | |
| 14:42 | geek_cl | kivilahtio, yes, by commandline works |
| 14:42 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: Can you send anything to the Borrower from Koha? |
| 14:43 | geek_cl | nope |
| 14:43 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: does the errorlogs say anything? |
| 14:43 | geek_cl | kivilahtio, nothing :/ |
| 14:44 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: sounds like you need a witcher |
| 14:44 | geek_cl | kivilahtio, #koha-witcher |
| 14:45 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: but you can send email to other borrowers? |
| 14:45 | geek_cl | yes sir |
| 14:46 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: maybe there is a magical invisible character in the borrowers email address |
| 14:46 | we have had those | |
| 14:46 | geek_cl | yeah, i checked that too |
| 14:47 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: then I really don't see any other alternative than start debugging the process_messagequeue.pl cronjob |
| 14:47 | geek_cl | hey, i found the reason: |
| 14:47 | "i guess" | |
| 14:47 | kivilahtio | neat |
| 14:47 | what was it? | |
| 14:47 | geek_cl | /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl : Invalid local time for date in time zone: America/Santiago |
| 14:47 | kivilahtio | there is nobody in the #koha-witcher |
| 14:48 | geek_cl: btw, how do you moniotr your cronjobs? | |
| 14:48 | geek_cl: do you collect the cronjob logs aomewhere? | |
| 14:48 | geek_cl | nop |
| 14:49 | kivilahtio | did you know that if you set the process_messagequeue.pl to run every minute in the crontab, and if it takes more than one minute to complete sending all message_queue. Then the cronjobs starts a-new every minute and never stops spamming your customers with notices? |
| 14:49 | geek_cl: just curious if you want to protect yourself from that | |
| 14:50 | geek_cl | kivilahtio, ah process_messagequeue.pl run every 10 minutes in my case |
| 14:50 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: ok |
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| 14:50 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: we lock and log cronjobs with this script |
| 14:50 | https://github.com/KohaSuomi/k[…]c/cronjobtimer.sh | |
| 14:51 | geek_cl | kivilahtio, what about this : /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl : Invalid local time for date in time zone: America/Santiago |
| 14:51 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: I havent got the faintest idea, maybe your system locale is not set properly |
| 14:51 | geek_cl | echo $TZ |
| 14:51 | America/Santiago | |
| 14:52 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: sounds like something is wrong in C4::Context->tz() or DateTime |
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| 14:52 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: I would start looking there |
| 14:52 | pianohacker | good morning |
| 14:52 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
| 14:52 | kivilahtio | good evening |
| 14:52 | wahanui | evening is the time of day we all look forward too |
| 14:53 | geek_cl | looks is DateTime |
| 14:53 | o/ | |
| 14:53 | kivilahtio | pianohacker: is anybody working with Rancor? |
| 14:53 | is is it past-season already? | |
| 14:56 | oleonard | kivilahtio: past-season? |
| 14:57 | geek_cl | kivilahtio, how to check that things, C4::Context->tz() or DateTime ? |
| 14:58 | kivilahtio | oleonard: :) |
| 14:58 | geek_cl: you need to start debugging the perl-code | |
| 14:58 | geek_cl: start with perl -d misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl | |
| 14:58 | geek_cl | ok |
| 14:59 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: or maybe somebody else can help you more. Maybe you can try emailing the mailing list |
| 14:59 | oleonard: I don't know if that is even English | |
| 14:59 | past-season I mean | |
| 15:06 | geek_cl | kivilahtio, http://pastebin.com/hsbEeviu |
| 15:08 | kivilahtio | geek_cl: I am sorry, I don't think I can help you with that |
| 15:08 | geek_cl | kivilahtio, thanks |
| 15:08 | pianohacker | kivilahtio: I'm slowly poking at some bugfixes, but active enhancements aren't moving very quickly at the moment |
| 15:09 | kivilahtio | pianohacker: do you have a development branch somewhere, like in github? |
| 15:10 | pianohacker: we are planning to use Rancor as a national cataloguing tool. I would like to demo the newest version of it this summer | |
| 15:10 | pianohacker: I mean as a national cataloguing tool for Koha-users in Finland :) | |
| 15:10 | not as a national cataloguing tool for the whole of finland :) | |
| 15:11 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:16 | drojf | how do we generate the blogposts for new releases? there are no 3.22.x postings after 3.22.1? is that something jajm has to do manually? (i suppose ot's done by a tool?) |
| 15:16 | hm there are, but they miss some tags maybe? | |
| 15:19 | see https://koha-community.org/category/release/3-20/ vs https://koha-community.org/category/release/3-22/ | |
| 15:19 | and why are all the newsletters in there? | |
| 15:20 | categories 3.20.x postings has 3.20, Announcements, release as categories | |
| 15:21 | tcohen: you were rm, you should know? :) | |
| 15:22 | tcohen | it needs to be done manually |
| 15:22 | then you generate the release notes, need to specify that you also want the HTML ones | |
| 15:22 | then copy and paste it in the community site | |
| 15:22 | drojf | so you have to set the tags somewhere? |
| 15:22 | ah ok | |
| 15:23 | woah. i thought that would be done way more… automatic :P | |
| 15:23 | tcohen | i know fredericd contributed a markdown output version, not sure how it works now |
| 15:23 | kivilahtio | life is analog drojf :) |
| 15:23 | tcohen | but it wasn't automated enough |
| 15:24 | truth is that i always amended the release notes manually | |
| 15:24 | before pushing/publishing | |
| 15:24 | drojf | meh |
| 15:24 | * drojf | is underwhelmed |
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| 15:25 | drojf | ok but thanks for explaining, then somebody with wordpress access has to fix the categories for a lot of stuff |
| 15:25 | also we prominently list a beta version of 3.22 | |
| 15:25 | https://koha-community.org/download-koha/ | |
| 15:25 | Get Koha 3.22 beta | |
| 15:33 | tcohen | are you sure drojf ? maybe you didn't reload the page? |
| 15:33 | drojf | tcohen: the last half year? |
| 15:34 | :P | |
| 15:34 | tcohen | yeah |
| 15:34 | those fancy new browsers that cache stuff | |
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| 15:34 | drojf | have you tried it? |
| 15:34 | tcohen | try reloading from time to time |
| 15:34 | drojf | have you tired the link? |
| 15:34 | tcohen | i'm sure the download page is correct |
| 15:34 | :-P | |
| 15:35 | drojf | heh i bet there is a timestamp somehwere |
| 15:35 | and your name :P | |
| 15:35 | tcohen | :-P |
| 15:36 | drojf | then have fun putting correct categories to the releases :) |
| 15:36 | tcohen | i leave that to the release maintainers |
| 15:36 | .-D | |
| 15:37 | drojf | lol |
| 15:38 | but thanks for fixing the first ;) | |
| 15:59 | slef | hi all |
| 16:00 | cait | hi slef |
| 16:04 | slef | Does anyone know how good koha is at fuzzy searching and what alternatives there are for when ICU is in use? |
| 16:04 | yes, it's near the end of the day and someone has thrown me a googly again so I ask here as well as digging :) | |
| 16:05 | kivilahtio | slef: not very good/efficient in my opinon |
| 16:05 | i think this is one reason why ElasticSearch is so important | |
| 16:05 | slef: but fuzzy searching is not an easy topic | |
| 16:06 | slef: I think the zebra-docs even warn against using fuzzy search. And there is a ridiculous amount of complexit thee when you merge mutliple search indexes to the mix | |
| 16:07 | slef: also it depends on what you mean with fuzzy search? | |
| 16:08 | slef | kivilahtio: I think misspellings/typos is their main concern. |
| 16:09 | I think jcamins had some ambitions about this too but I've not been following his progress closely since the blog aggregator fell over. | |
| 16:10 | cait | what jcamins did is some features based on authorities |
| 16:10 | did you mean suggests for wider/narrower terms | |
| 16:10 | and suggesting authorised terms for your search terms | |
| 16:10 | so a bit different | |
| 16:11 | kivilahtio | cati think slef means Google-search where Google knows the most common search terms and suggests "did you mean this" |
| 16:11 | cait: sorry typoed your nick | |
| 16:11 | cait | yeah i know, - was referring to feature we already have :) |
| 16:11 | jcamins | I wrote a framework for arbitrary Did you mean-style functionality. |
| 16:11 | cait | hm true |
| 16:12 | jcamins | And demonstrated it with the only use case that I cared about, which was authority-based. |
| 16:12 | kivilahtio | jcamins: what is is based on? |
| 16:12 | cait | i guess you could add a plugin using some api for suggestions? |
| 16:12 | jcamins | kivilahtio: it's just a place you can stick code that implements a Did you mean service. |
| 16:14 | slef | jcamins: so are you no longer appealing for money to develop it? |
| 16:15 | as in http://www.cpbibliography.com/[…]earchrewrite.html | |
| 16:15 | jcamins | slef: that is correct. |
| 16:15 | I keep on meaning to update C & P's website. | |
| 16:16 | slef | I sympathise. I've at least five personal/internal sites to update, some of which have been waiting over a year. |
| 16:16 | jcamins | All of mine have. :/ |
| 16:16 | kivilahtio | jcamins: slef: I am happy you are kept busy with paid work :) |
| 16:17 | slef | kivilahtio: not only, sadly, but I'm not going to whinge here :) |
| 16:17 | jcamins | kivilahtio: that is true. |
| 16:17 | Much better this way than the other way. | |
| 16:18 | kivilahtio | yeah. I wouldnt update wesites for free :) |
| 16:18 | slef | I would but they mostly come after those I do get paid for :) |
| 16:18 | jcamins | Actually, I just updated a website for free. But that was a three line change, and it was because it's a charity I volunteer for occasionally. |
| 16:19 | (I don't volunteer to do website updates, I volunteer to teach for them, and I was making a three-line change correcting the syllabus) | |
| 16:19 | slef | yes, my most-updated site is www.KLWNBUG.co.uk which is a volunteer project (and a blissful break for libraries) |
| 16:19 | from librareis, I mean | |
| 16:20 | oh heck, it's the end of the day - did I mention that? | |
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| 16:20 | nengard | slef!!!!!! |
| 16:20 | wahanui | slef is an item record |
| 16:20 | nengard | nuh uh |
| 16:20 | oleonard | wahanui: ?? |
| 16:20 | wahanui | i haven't a clue, oleonard |
| 16:20 | oleonard | wahanui: slef is an authority record |
| 16:20 | slef | Well, it's right in that I'm ready to check out... |
| 16:20 | wahanui | ...but slef is probably busy so please use http://www.software.coop/contact/ if you need him for work or but I don't want to say anything bad about him lest he smack me|an item record... |
| 16:20 | nengard | ha ha |
| 16:20 | jcamins | I am really curious how wahanui learned that. |
| 16:20 | nengard | well nice to see you |
| 16:21 | slef | bah and I look at that website and trev has misfiled some stuff |
| 16:21 | you just can't get the librarians any more :) | |
| 16:21 | nice to see you too | |
| 16:21 | I've not been here late often lately | |
| 16:22 | * slef | logs in and quickly refiles some stuff and updates the logo to the correct one too |
| 16:22 | kivilahtio | no place like #koha |
| 16:22 | slef: have you participated to Cycling 4 Libraries? | |
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| 16:23 | kivilahtio | slef: not sure if that is a big phenomenom, but in Finland we had such an event where Finnish librarians bicycled from Helsinki to Germany |
| 16:24 | slef | kivilahtio: I've seen it but it's never quite at the right time for me. Also, my cycling so far has been day trips only and not multi-day tours. |
| 16:24 | There is also BEMI which is cycling to some Esperanto event. Maybe one day. | |
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| 16:25 | kivilahtio | Esperanto is an interesting concept |
| 16:26 | so is | |
| 16:26 | http://www.flagofplanetearth.com/#intro-shift | |
| 16:27 | slef | hmm, might work better than my habit of posting the republican flag when they start on with the union one :) |
| 16:28 | (blue/white/green horizontal tricolour, in case you ever see it) | |
| 16:28 | (that's sky blue, too) | |
| 16:31 | kivilahtio | Geralt is calling me. Need to find Triss |
| 16:32 | oleonard | Ha. Just discovered my first jQuery upgrade bug. |
| 16:34 | kivilahtio | oleonard: really? |
| 16:34 | wahanui | i heard really was more trouble than she's worth. |
| 16:35 | kivilahtio | I didn't know they exist |
| 16:35 | oleonard | Might be a case where previous versions were lest strict about syntax? I don't know. |
| 16:35 | $(this+":checked").val() | |
| 16:36 | slef | bbl (but maybe only to say goodbye :) ) |
| 16:37 | oleonard | Bug 16321 |
| 16:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16321 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , 'Show all details' checkbox triggers JS error after jQuery upgrade |
| 16:37 | kivilahtio | oleonard: looks wrong |
| 16:38 | or does this really stringify as a css-selector? | |
| 16:38 | where this is presumably a HTMLElement ? | |
| 16:38 | oleonard | It used to work, now it doesn't. Simple fix though. |
| 16:39 | Ambiguity about jQuery's $(this) and JavaScript's this | |
| 16:41 | jcamins | oleonard: the fact that ever works is very scary. |
| 16:41 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 16:41 | kivilahtio | I cast this to self (old habits, old habits) |
| 16:41 | oleonard | Scary JavaScript Stories to Tell in the Dark |
| 16:41 | kivilahtio | if having closures inside closutes |
| 16:48 | speaking of javascript. Have you checked out Jasmine BDD yet? | |
| 16:48 | I have been writing my first javascript tests for Koha with http://jasmine.github.io/2.4/introduction.html | |
| 16:49 | but I have very limited experience with front-end testing | |
| 16:49 | JAsmine works really well with the REST API | |
| 16:49 | I guess all the frameworks do :) | |
| 16:56 | jcamins | kivilahtio: I usually use mocha/chai. |
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| 18:00 | magnuse | oleonard: thanks for catching my lack of logic on bug 16316 |
| 18:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make it possible to limit patron search to surname |
| 18:00 | oleonard | Sure, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something |
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| 18:10 | magnuse | oleonard++ thanks a bunch! |
| 18:10 | (does that sound ironic? not meant to be :-) | |
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| 18:21 | drojf | with ubuntu 16.04 here, do we drop 14.04 support? |
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| 18:47 | magnuse | drojf: not without a bit of a warning, perhaps? |
| 18:48 | drojf | magnuse: i think it works anyway, probably better than older debians. i only meant the statement we have that was something like "the most recent LTS of ubuntu) |
| 18:49 | maybe recommend fits better than support | |
| 18:49 | it wont suddenly stop working on 14.04 i guess :) | |
| 18:50 | magnuse | drojf: true, of course :-) |
| 18:50 | trying to set up an instance with https. i have a full https url in OpacFavicon. On the front page etc that works without any problems, but search result pages uses the old http url that used to be in OpacFavicon. why? | |
| 18:50 | drojf | is there apache 2.4 for 14.04? |
| 18:51 | magnuse: i think there was a bug about that long ago? | |
| 18:51 | bag | morning |
| 18:51 | drojf | hm maybe not |
| 18:51 | hi bag | |
| 18:51 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 18:52 | bag | magnuse: HI there |
| 18:52 | wahanui | hello, bag |
| 18:54 | magnuse | knuckleses! |
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| 18:58 | andreashm | hi #koha |
| 18:59 | magnuse | kia ora andreashm |
| 19:00 | andreashm | hej magnuse |
| 19:00 | magnuse | emptying OpacFavicon, reloading the page, filling OpacFavicon back in and reloading again seems to have solved it - some kind of caching issue perhaps |
| 19:06 | andreashm: found any nice swiss cheese yet? | |
| 19:07 | andreashm | magnuse: lots of it. cheese cheese cheese! |
| 19:08 | magnuse: what's up in the norht? saw you mention something about snow in the logs? | |
| 19:09 | was there a dev meeting yesterday? | |
| 19:12 | magnuse | yeah, we had something very similar to snow this morning |
| 19:12 | @wunder boo | |
| 19:12 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (8:50 PM CEST on April 21, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:12 | magnuse | and yes there was a dev meeting yesterdays |
| 19:13 | http://meetings.koha-community[…]20-15.07.log.html | |
| 19:13 | http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-20-15.07.html | |
| 19:13 | lots of cheese sounds perfect! | |
| 19:14 | andreashm | magnuse: yeah, thanks, just found it in the logs. |
| 19:15 | magnuse: lots of chocolate and cakes, as well. and fruit flavored beer. I'm actually starting to like that, which is somewhat scary. =) | |
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| 19:16 | nuentoter | hello!, quick question when doing a batch item edit, i can upload a file. how can this file be created by koha? |
| 19:17 | andreashm | Anyone up for some testing? Bug 15534 apparently needs another sign-off. |
| 19:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add the ability to prevent a patron from placing a hold on a record with available items |
| 19:17 | magnuse | nuentoter: with a report, perhaps? |
| 19:19 | nuentoter | after importing everything (which required some heavy editing to work [uugghhh]) realized I omitted to add the library code to any of my items. This results in nothing being able to be checked out. |
| 19:19 | magnuse | nuentoter: do you mean 952a and b? |
| 19:20 | nuentoter | yup |
| 19:20 | magnuse | a.k.a. homebranch and holdingbranch |
| 19:20 | nuentoter: do you have more than one library? | |
| 19:20 | nuentoter | no just the one |
| 19:20 | magnuse | are you comfortable with doing things on the commend line? |
| 19:20 | nuentoter | yup |
| 19:20 | tell me there is an easier way lol :) | |
| 19:20 | magnuse | are you on a package install? |
| 19:21 | nuentoter | yup |
| 19:21 | magnuse | then you can do "sudo koha-mysql <yourinstance>" |
| 19:22 | and then "UPDATE items SET homebranch = X AND holdingbranch = X" where X is the library code of your library | |
| 19:22 | that should do it, i think | |
| 19:22 | nuentoter | oh nice! im starting up the server right now. |
| 19:22 | magnuse | and then reindex with "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v <yourinstance>" |
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| 19:28 | * andreashm_ | is back |
| 19:29 | andreashm_ | heh |
| 19:30 | magnuse | ooh, a clone? |
| 19:30 | wahanui | hmmm... a clone is probably my best bet (simplest and quickest) |
| 19:31 | magnuse | bug 14957 |
| 19:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin, Patch doesn't apply , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import |
| 19:34 | andreashm_ | That's a nice one. |
| 19:35 | If it should manage to be updated | |
| 19:36 | I looked at it earlier today actually as there is a Swedish library who wants that functinality. I think you can guess which one magnuse! =) | |
| 19:36 | magnuse | hehe, possibly :-) |
| 19:37 | the conflicts don't look too bad i think, but it's getting too late for me today | |
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| 19:40 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 19:41 | cheers mario! | |
| 19:43 | mario | thank you magnuse |
| 19:55 | andreashm_ | I really hope the REST API stuff manages to get passed QA before feature freeze. Just one more week right? |
| 19:58 | magnuse | yeah, 28th is the deadline, i think |
| 19:59 | * cait | waves |
| 19:59 | bag | yup 28th |
| 20:02 | andreashm_ | tight call |
| 20:02 | should perhaps send cookies to the QA team? | |
| 20:02 | magnuse | that won't hurt |
| 20:03 | andreashm_ | or swiss chesse |
| 20:03 | or maybe not. | |
| 20:03 | might get smelly. | |
| 20:03 | bag | yeah rip prince |
| 20:03 | * magnuse | would do extra work for swiss cheese |
| 20:03 | bag | andreashm_: bug pianohacker to QA it ;) (if it wasn’t a bywater signoff previously) |
| 20:04 | * cait | supports that idea |
| 20:04 | bag | sorry s/signoff/QA |
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| 20:06 | andreashm_ | bag: will do! |
| 20:08 | drojf | i tried to recruit a new developer, if he actually joins irc someone has to walk him through kohadevbox :P … tcohen ;) |
| 20:09 | andreashm_ | drojf: saw that on the mailing list. nice |
| 20:09 | drojf | if he is able to fix a problem in code i hope he won't be afraid of git |
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| 20:38 | * magnuse | runs out of battery |
| 20:39 | andreashm_ | battery? |
| 20:39 | wahanui | battery is holding down like a champ. think I'm going to make it! |
| 20:39 | * cait | has run out of battery some time ago |
| 20:39 | nuentoter | thats what peanut butter and chocolate are for! |
| 20:40 | andreashm_ | cheese and chocolate! |
| 20:40 | together! | |
| 20:40 | (or not) | |
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| 20:41 | cait | hmm i'd love some chocolate |
| 20:43 | nuentoter | for a long time i would make grilled cheese and peanut butter sandwiches for midnight fuel |
| 20:44 | cait | stop making me hungry for things that are not availavle |
| 20:44 | andreashm_ | hehe |
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| 21:15 | jcamins | cait: I'm about to make more horseradish. |
| 21:16 | cait | ? |
| 21:16 | how are yo umaking more? growing it? | |
| 21:16 | jcamins | lol |
| 21:16 | Grating it and putting it in vinegar. | |
| 21:18 | cait | ah |
| 21:18 | interesting | |
| 21:18 | wahanui | interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 21:19 | bag | wear a snorkle and mask - and have a fan blowing across you jcamins :P |
| 21:19 | that’s what my dad used to do | |
| 21:31 | jcamins | bag: ohgodohgodohgodohgod. |
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| 22:56 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 22:56 | @seen kidclamp | |
| 22:56 | huginn | mtompset: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 49 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <kidclamp> following you out |
| 22:57 | mtompset | @seen kidclamp_away |
| 22:57 | huginn | mtompset: I have not seen kidclamp_away. |
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| 23:07 | drojf | good night #koha |
| 23:14 | bag | @later tell rangi can you add this bug 16248 to the ES branch? |
| 23:14 | huginn | bag: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:28 | kidclamp | mtompset? |
| 23:28 | wahanui | mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects. |
| 23:31 | mtompset | There you is. |
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| 23:32 | kidclamp | I never go too far |
| 23:32 | mtompset | kidclamp: It is ready. |
| 23:32 | kidclamp | I saw, applied and testing as we speak |
| 23:32 | mtompset | There is even staff filtering slightly. :) |
| 23:33 | BTW, I hate GetISBDView. :) | |
| 23:37 | kidclamp | hey! where'd all the record info go! :-) |
| 23:43 | mtompset | Exactly! |
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| 23:44 | kidclamp | mtompset++ |
| 23:46 | mtompset | :) |
| 23:46 | There is still 2-5% to polish it completely, but for the scope of the bug: detail pages, it is good to go. :) | |
| 23:47 | kidclamp | It is a pretty drastic increase |
| 23:47 | not that most will hide all, but it hits a ton | |
| 23:47 | mtompset | I'm surprised no one actually complained about the failure to hide properly. |
| 23:48 | We have those pretty check boxes in the framework advanced section for a reason. | |
| 23:48 | kidclamp | i mean, the flagged option does ???? and complaints are rare |
| 23:49 | mtompset | from what I can tell it's a hide it all now! |
| 23:49 | it really isn't documented. | |
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| 23:49 | mtompset | Those comments I put into the filter code are the best documentation I did find. |
| 23:50 | I bet you didn't know the -9 and 9 are future reserved, did you? | |
| 23:50 | * wizzyrea | did |
| 23:50 | mtompset | :P Show off! |
| 23:50 | kidclamp | reserved for what? |
| 23:50 | mtompset | nobody knows! |
| 23:50 | wizzyrea | whatever might be necessary :P |
| 23:50 | kidclamp | zombie apocalypse |
| 23:51 | wizzyrea | I remember when you had to actually know the numbers for the hiding. |
| 23:51 | kidclamp | marc will save us, everyone will finally understand why we keep it around |
| 23:51 | mtompset | wizzyrea: Careful, you might date yourself. ;) |
| 23:52 | wizzyrea | I think I've had an installed Koha since version 2.2 |
| 23:52 | (but didn't use the 2.2 one, it was only for testing) | |
| 23:52 | * bag | started with 2.2 |
| 23:53 | mtompset | kidclamp++ # thanks for the sign off. |
| 23:53 | bag | my favorite release is 3.4 :D |
| 23:53 | mtompset | jcamins and I will always have 3.6.3 |
| 23:53 | * wizzyrea | doesn't have a favourite |
| 23:53 | kidclamp | np mtompset |
| 23:53 | bag | well then it should be 3.4 ;) |
| 23:54 | kidclamp | my favorite is the one with FRBR |
| 23:54 | mtompset | Actually, the GUI for Koha was really starting to improve by 3.8 |
| 23:55 | wizzyrea | oh true, I do like the one where we got the bootstrap opac. |
| 23:55 | 3.14 maybe? | |
| 23:55 | Pi. Pi was my favourite. | |
| 23:55 | mtompset | Pi is wrong.... |
| 23:55 | Tau is better. :P | |
| 23:55 | wizzyrea | pedant. |
| 23:55 | bag | Koha 3.4.0 is released in memoriam of Elizabeth Mae Gallagher-Mitchell |
| 23:55 | Haere. Mōu tai ata; mōku tai ahiahi | |
| 23:56 | mtompset | Oh, a relative? |
| 23:56 | bag | my daughter |
| 23:57 | mtompset | You'll always have 3.4.0 -- condolences. |
| 23:58 | bag | yup - my favorite |
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