IRC log for #koha, 2016-04-09

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07:29 drojf morning
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12:02 drojf we need more weekend activity here
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13:05 jcamins drojf: we need more baking activity here.
13:42 eythian I went to the bakery, does that count?
13:43 jcamins eythian: sure. It's better than not going to the bakery, right?
13:43 Or, at least, better than not having baked goods.
13:44 eythian Definitely. The bakery nearby makes good bread. Though the only time I can get there is Saturdays. Glad I remembered today.
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13:52 drojf no time for baking :(
13:52 i would not mind more baking talk though :)
14:04 jcamins drojf: You should make more time for baking!
14:04 :D
14:36 drojf jcamins: you are right of course
14:36 got to talk to my boss
14:41 jcamins Agreed.
14:49 Disaster! I thought I had a 1lb bag of potato starch, but it was only 14oz!
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14:59 jcamins I _do_ have pounded yams, though...
14:59 drojf jcamins: that would not have happened if you used the metric system!
15:00 jcamins drojf: I needed 250g.
15:01 drojf that is the oart i actually undestood :)
15:01 +r
15:01 the oz part is way more confusing. i think its 28 gram, unless its liquid. or something
15:01 jcamins The problem is not that I was using Imperial units, it was that the store was.
15:02 Usually when you buy things, they come 1lb (=454g) bags.
15:02 This did not.
15:02 I did not anticipate this.
15:02 drojf your lb is 454? lol
15:03 we do have "ein pfund" (a pound), depending on the region. but it is 500gr
15:03 jcamins Our pound is close to 500g, too. Just not _that_ close.
15:08 drojf 1 oz. = 16 dr. (Dram) = 437,5 gr. (Gran) = 28,349523125 Gramm
15:08 aaaah
15:08 that explains
15:09 eythian: in the netherland you got "ons" and that is 100g?
15:09 netherlands even
15:12 jcamins: what are you going to do with it?
15:21 jcamins drojf: the potato starch? I'm making shortbread with it.
15:21 Actually, I'm making shortbread with everything...
15:22 I have two recipes for miso cookies. One calls for 2 Tbsp miso paste, the other calls for 1/2 c.
15:23 Oh, the one calling for 2 Tbsp calls for half an egg.
15:23 Yeah, right.
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16:21 talljoy 1/2 an egg....
16:21 jcamins I'd like to see that measurement.... ;-)
16:42 eythian drojf: I haven't heard of it, but I haven't bought baking things either.
16:42 'ons' means 'us', iirc.
16:43 I suppose it could also be related to "ounce", but metricified.
16:44 drojf i'm sure it is
16:49 * eythian checks in a dutch cookbook
16:49 drojf hm. can't i load a koha-* script in koha-create, like koha-functions.sh?
16:51 eythian schildpadsoep specifies, among other things, 100 gr (grams, given liquids are in litres) of ham.
16:52 "het koekboek van alice in wonderland" may not be an authoritative source, mind you.
16:52 drojf or can i only have one line of ". myscript.sh" inclusion?
16:53 eythian "load" in bash means execute
16:53 so if you load another script, you're running it.
16:53 (I think)
16:54 in fact, I'm pretty sure.
16:54 drojf i am not using load. i try to include it with ". something". like we do with
16:54 if [ -f "/usr/share/koha/bin/koha-functions.sh" ]; then
16:54 . "/usr/share/koha/bin/koha-functions.sh"
16:54 eythian well, I'm defining the word :)
16:54 "." means "source" which means "run"
16:54 which means "execute" :)
16:54 it just does it within your space, as opposed to its own
16:55 drojf ok. but if there are only functions in that file, execute means make the functions available?
16:55 eythian yes, because executing a definition puts it into the namespace.
16:56 I know of no reason you couldn't do that with multiple files.
16:56 in fact, I'd find it really weird if you couldn't
16:57 drojf when i do it with my koha-letsencrypt directly after, koha-create does not know about the parameters anymore. but i may just have broken it somewhere else
16:57 eythian "the parameters"?
16:58 perhaps they're being overwritten as part of the execution by something else?
16:58 drojf sudo koha-create --create-db koha
16:58 Error: invalid option switch (--create-db)
16:58 those parameters ;)
16:58 eythian ah. Not totally sure.
16:59 http://www.zachtronics.com/tis-100/ <-- btw, you should play this is a light, easy escape from a day of programming.
17:04 drojf ah found it
17:05 there is also a part regarding command line options in my file, i missed that
17:05 eythian yeah, it's best if function files are only functions :)
17:06 drojf yeah that makes a lot of sense
17:06 i tried to have all stuff in one place
17:06 not working like this
17:06 i think its wine o'clock
17:07 eythian I need to finish polishing my floor, then I might get a pizza and some beer.
17:14 drojf hm. i guess i throw most of it in in the helper functions file then and koha-letsencrypt will mostly be a wrapper around that to use it standalone
17:14 eythian yeah
17:14 drojf i think i had that thought once before. thats what you get when you only work on stuff every few weeks
17:15 almost dark, missed gardening time i guess
17:27 what is it with Auth_cas_servers.yaml.orig? that thing keeps getting in the way, got deleted by accident again
17:28 eythian someone hasn't put *.orig in .gitignore?
17:30 drojf it's not supposed to be ignored, it's a part of koha AFAIK
17:31 i actually git add_ed it because it was complaining, then it got deleted
17:33 eythian yes, but if it's in .gitignore, maybe that's causing weird things to happen
17:34 drojf there is no .gitignore
17:34 maybe its a funny default that i have to gitunignore? :P
17:36 eythian hmm, so there isn't.
17:36 maybe you have a local one?
17:36 I dunno
17:39 drojf it will remain a mystery for now
19:08 magnuse .git/info/exclude?
19:15 drojf: when doing a z39.50 search (copy cataloguing) do you get problems if you use non-ascii chars? like ö ü etc?
19:15 i always get 0 hits when i include æøå, for searches i know should give hits
19:17 ah it works for LoC. must be something about the target i usually use, then
19:20 drojf magnuse: i just tired "Götte, Monika" with the BSZ server and had no problems
19:27 magnuse: what are you using that does not work?
19:27 magnuse nesbø, jo
19:28 for exmple
19:28 that works with LoC, but not with bibsys
19:28 drojf i mean which target?
19:28 magnuse ah, BIBSYS
19:29 see http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c1b6aa95;hb=HEAD for the config
19:30 encoding is ISO_8859-1
19:31 i suspect the query is sent as utf8 and the server expects ISO_8859-1, or something like that
19:33 drojf have you checked if it works with their SRU server?
19:35 magnuse nope, good point
19:36 drojf sru.bibsys.no/search/biblioholdings?version=1.2​&operation=searchRetrieve&startRecord=1&maximum​Records=10&query=nesbø&recordSchema=marcxchange
19:41 magnuse cool
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20:05 * magnuse falls asleep
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20:51 drojf @later tell magnuse sorry, had a phone call and could not reconnect to the irc server afterwards
20:51 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
21:05 drojf good night lurkers
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