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| 03:53 | Francesca | hi |
| 03:53 | wahanui | hola, Francesca |
| 03:57 | wizzyrea | hi Francesca |
| 03:57 | Francesca | sup |
| 03:58 | wizzyrea | not a whole lot really, worky work work work |
| 03:59 | how about you? | |
| 03:59 | Francesca | worky worky work uni style |
| 04:00 | and bad asthma | |
| 04:05 | wizzyrea | bleh |
| 04:07 | Francesca | good description |
| 04:16 | wizzyrea | I feel very thankful that I have never had more than a wee bit of allergy sniffles |
| 04:16 | no asthma or other "oh god I can't breathe" issues. | |
| 04:17 | mtj | hey Francesca, wizzyrea ;0) |
| 04:17 | wizzyrea | hi mtj! |
| 04:17 | Francesca | hi mtj |
| 04:17 | wizzyrea | gosh it seems like ages since I've talked to you |
| 04:17 | Francesca | I just took a mouse off sirius |
| 04:17 | hes not happy | |
| 04:17 | wizzyrea | eh let him eat it :) |
| 04:18 | Francesca | in this house we rescue mice |
| 04:18 | mtj | yeah, april already - how did that happen?! |
| 04:18 | wizzyrea | I don't know! |
| 04:18 | Francesca: I question your methods, but to each their own. :) | |
| 04:18 | me personally, I don't like having mice around. :P | |
| 04:19 | Francesca | i caught it in a net and let it go outside |
| 04:19 | wizzyrea | so a caught mouse is always a "good kitty" moment for me |
| 04:19 | well, I like them if they are in cages and friendly and not bitey and scrobbling around in my pantry | |
| 04:19 | Francesca | do you have a cat? |
| 04:19 | wizzyrea | not anymore :( |
| 04:20 | Francesca | sad |
| 04:20 | wizzyrea | yeah a b ti |
| 04:20 | ibeardslee | it's called a calendar, and each time the world spins does a full rotation, we add cross off another day we have done, there are about 30 in a month and if depending where you started, you eventually cycle through 12 of those months to get to April. |
| 04:20 | mtj | hey #koha...does anyone know what the process is to fix a pootle/translation typo? |
| 04:20 | wizzyrea | bit* |
| 04:20 | Francesca | i need to email thatcher about guiitar - i keep forgetting |
| 04:20 | wizzyrea | ibeardslee: ilu |
| 04:20 | Francesca | lol |
| 04:23 | ibeardslee | gah .. too much changing thought process mind sentence |
| 04:25 | mtj | bug 16144, re: that pootle Q |
| 04:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16144 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron search fails when using Korean (pootle/translate error) |
| 04:38 | mtj | ibeardslee: how about magnets? |
| 04:38 | :p | |
| 04:38 | wizzyrea | yes, how do they work |
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| 06:39 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:48 | Joubu | morning |
| 06:48 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:48 | wahanui | que tal, reiveune |
| 06:48 | marcelr | hi Joubu reiveune |
| 06:49 | reiveune | salut marcelr Joubu |
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| 06:58 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:28 | cait | morning #koha |
| 07:34 | LibraryClaire | morning cait :) |
| 07:35 | cait | morning LibraryClaire :) |
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| 07:46 | cait | Joubu: only email |
| 07:46 | that bug worries me a great deal | |
| 07:46 | Joubu | cait: just tested and works for me.... |
| 07:46 | I have only email too | |
| 07:46 | cait | when i entered an e-mail address, all was good |
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| 07:47 | cait | but without... |
| 07:47 | i think it should have created an email to the library and a print notice? | |
| 07:48 | ashimema | morning #koha |
| 07:48 | cait | morning ashimema :) |
| 07:50 | LibraryClaire | hi ashimema |
| 07:50 | Joubu | starting a week debugging overdue_notices is like self-flagellation |
| 07:50 | cait | sorry for that :( |
| 07:51 | ah, something | |
| 07:51 | there was a line printed by overdue_notices.pl | |
| 07:51 | something about MTT and print? | |
| 07:51 | possible i only have an email template, no print template - could that be it? | |
| 07:52 | Joubu | ha, yes |
| 07:53 | cait | shoudl there be a fallback or is it my fault? |
| 07:53 | thought there used to be one :) | |
| 07:54 | * ashimema | runs away before he gets roped into the self-flagellation too |
| 07:54 | cait | lol |
| 07:55 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:55 | Joubu | cait: I don't remember, but I though email was the fallback |
| 07:56 | I don't understand, I cannot recreate the bug on master......... | |
| 07:56 | an email notice is required for a patron without email address and a print notice is generated | |
| 08:04 | cait | it hink what it used to do was 2 things |
| 08:04 | generated a print entry in message queue | |
| 08:04 | and an entry with no borrowernumber witht he email for the library | |
| 08:05 | can you reproduce the problem without the patch? | |
| 08:05 | Joubu | cait: added a note |
| 08:05 | the patch should fix the email for the library | |
| 08:05 | not the print generated for the patrons | |
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| 08:06 | Joubu | the print is sent even without the patch |
| 08:06 | cait | i didn't get either |
| 08:06 | and no idea why that would be | |
| 08:07 | if the date was wrong, adding the email address shouldn't have generated a notice either | |
| 08:07 | Joubu | cait: so maybe we have another bug related to the feedback template to use |
| 08:07 | * ashimema | hands Joubu a bigger stick |
| 08:08 | Joubu | :d |
| 08:08 | cait | Joubu: what does your overdue template look like? |
| 08:08 | which have you set? | |
| 08:10 | Joubu | The default ODUE |
| 08:11 | for the email | |
| 08:11 | cait | that has only email i think? |
| 08:11 | Joubu | and print is "cardnumber:patron:email:item |
| 08:11 | <<borrowers.cardnumber>>:<<borrowers.firstname>> <borrowers.surname>>:<<borrowers.email>>:<<items.barcode>>" | |
| 08:12 | If I remove the contain of the print template, I get | |
| 08:12 | No circulation ODUE letter transported by print at C4/Letters.pm line 637. | |
| 08:12 | and I don't get the notices are not generated | |
| 08:13 | and the notices are not generated | |
| 08:36 | cait | aha! |
| 08:36 | Joubu: that's exactly what i saw | |
| 08:37 | but ithink they used to be generated - there was no print template added by default when we started I thnk | |
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| 08:53 | Joubu | cait: I will confirm that, but it should be done on another bug reporgt |
| 08:53 | cait | makes sense |
| 08:54 | i have switched it to signed off already | |
| 08:54 | with a print template, if it works, we got at least a first work around | |
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| 08:59 | cait | hi drojf |
| 08:59 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 08:59 | hi cait. that was fast | |
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| 09:01 | LibraryClaire | back in a bit' |
| 09:17 | Joubu | cait: with 15967 the email for the library should still be generated if the print templates are not defined for a given overdue notice |
| 09:26 | cait | can only say that it didn't happen for me |
| 09:27 | I don't have access to that installation from here - so can only do more tests tonight | |
| 09:27 | does it work when you empty out your print template? | |
| 09:46 | Joubu | cait: ok back a bit on that: if you check print, you have to have a print template, otherwise you will get a warning when launching the overdue_notices script |
| 09:46 | cait | i didn't check print |
| 09:47 | only email and empty print layout... | |
| 09:47 | Joubu | I don't think we got another behaviour before |
| 09:47 | cait | yes we did |
| 09:47 | i am seeing it live in 3.18.x | |
| 09:47 | no print template ever added - and the notices to the library are generated | |
| 09:48 | there is some mismatch/misunderstanding somewhere | |
| 09:48 | Joubu | will be hard for me to test, I do not have a valid 3.18 DB |
| 09:48 | cait | i have plenty... but no mater atm :) |
| 09:49 | Joubu | the code looks the same between 3.18 and master |
| 09:49 | cait | checking letter - i only have 1 print line |
| 09:49 | and that's for holds | |
| 09:49 | the table letter | |
| 09:50 | select * from message_queue where borrowernumber is null shows a lot of notices to the library - last ones from march | |
| 09:51 | if we require a print template now for this to work, it's a change in behaviour - and i think a problematic one, as you won't notice it for a long time possibly | |
| 09:51 | did the print line get deleted when you emptied your print layout? | |
| 09:53 | Joubu | If I remove the print template, the notices for the patrons are not generated and no email for librarians neither |
| 09:53 | cait | hm ok so you can reproduce |
| 09:53 | and we don't agree if this is an issue? | |
| 09:53 | Joubu | it's a configuration issue :) |
| 09:53 | cait | i disagree |
| 09:53 | Joubu | you check "print" but do not have it defined |
| 09:53 | it cannot work | |
| 09:54 | cait | because i don't want to generate both |
| 09:54 | i only want a print, if there is no email | |
| 09:54 | and not even a print, but an information to the library, that there is an overdue, where the patron could not be informed | |
| 09:54 | if i check print - i'd sent both to the patron, that's very different | |
| 09:55 | from the intended behaviour here - this is a fallback for users without email adresses | |
| 09:56 | Joubu | ok got it |
| 09:56 | cait | sorry for being difficult |
| 09:57 | Joubu | but it was a bug actually :p |
| 09:57 | cait | hm? |
| 09:57 | Joubu | that's a "regression" from 14133, the goal was to use the print template for all print notices |
| 09:57 | before 14133 the email or sms template was used for the fallback print notice | |
| 09:57 | which was wrong | |
| 09:58 | you do not want to generate a sms (so very short) template for printing | |
| 09:58 | cait | hm |
| 09:58 | first thing... id' say use print when print is available... fall back to email | |
| 09:58 | Joubu | but I understand what you said, I am not saying we should keep this behavior |
| 09:58 | cait | falling back to sms seems a little odd ye |
| 09:58 | s | |
| 09:59 | the problem with chaging the behaviour is backwards compatibility | |
| 09:59 | for example we'd have to edit all the notices on update for the libraries... or copy with SQL - if we changed behaviour lease would be an automatic db update i think | |
| 09:59 | so it keeps working | |
| 09:59 | Joubu | but I think we should force the libraries to define correct templates instead of trying to fix configuration issues in the code |
| 09:59 | cait | i think the email to the library in this case is special |
| 10:00 | it's kind of print/not print... | |
| 10:00 | it's emails that could not be delivered | |
| 10:01 | Joubu | do you agree with 14133: print templates should be used for print notices? |
| 10:01 | cait | reading |
| 10:01 | i think i'd have built in a fallback | |
| 10:03 | ah i see | |
| 10:03 | IMPORTANT NOTE: This test plan does not take into account the notices generated for the staff ("These messages were not sent directly to the patrons."). However the behavior will also change, the print template will be used in all cases. Is it what we want? | |
| 10:03 | it does make sense... the problem is the change in behaviour that is kinda unexpected because undocumented | |
| 10:03 | the easiest would be to say... if no print, try email... if none... error | |
| 10:04 | or we could clena up the database by adding print templates when they don't exist - but that seems a bit messy | |
| 10:04 | Joubu | yes but should we do that for any letters? |
| 10:05 | i.e. at the C4::Letters::GetPreparedLetter? (that's the easy and global solution) | |
| 10:05 | cait | it woudl make sense to me at first glance... |
| 10:05 | Joubu | (and the one which may introduce regressions) |
| 10:05 | cait | but i might need to have lunch and think about it more |
| 10:05 | the problem is ee is that that the change has been backportet | |
| 10:05 | backported :( | |
| 10:06 | so this is already a problem for some libraries - it would definitely be for us | |
| 10:06 | so we should try to figure this out somehow quickly :( | |
| 10:06 | Joubu | Yes but I have fixed a bug and written a big IMPORTANT NOTE, as you notice |
| 10:06 | cait | i didn't realize the problem until i tested yesterday |
| 10:06 | Joubu | I don't know what I can do more.... |
| 10:06 | cait | yeah - but the libraries don't look at that |
| 10:07 | Joubu | As always, I have tons of solutions, but never know which one should be picked |
| 10:08 | I really think that should be fixed at the DB level (cp email to print if print does not exist) | |
| 10:08 | I am a bit afraid to patch C4::Letters to be honest... | |
| 10:08 | cait | might also be confusing... but maybe |
| 10:09 | i am leaving an note on the initial bug | |
| 10:09 | could we patch only the overdues email to the library? | |
| 10:09 | keeping it a bit more granular? | |
| 10:10 | Joubu | I don't think so, we need the same behaviour for all letters |
| 10:10 | why would it be more granular? | |
| 10:10 | cait | just because the email to the library is kind of a special case |
| 10:10 | it's the only notice we do that for | |
| 10:13 | Joubu: will try to ask around, but have to eat some lunch first | |
| 10:13 | Joubu | yep, enjoy :) |
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| 11:38 | LibraryClaire | hello |
| 11:38 | wahanui | what's up, LibraryClaire |
| 11:41 | magnuse | howdy LibraryClaire |
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| 11:42 | LibraryClaire | hey magnuse :) |
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| 12:23 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:23 | cait | hi oleonard! :) |
| 12:27 | kidclamp | morning |
| 12:27 | cait | morning kidclamp |
| 12:27 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
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| 12:30 | drojf | hello again |
| 12:33 | druthb | drojf! |
| 12:33 | cait! | |
| 12:33 | drojf | druthb! |
| 12:34 | druthb | :) |
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| 12:39 | magnuse | drojf! druthb! NateC! tcohen! |
| 12:40 | NateC | magnuse!! |
| 12:40 | wahanui | magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
| 12:40 | druthb | magnuse!! |
| 12:40 | wahanui | magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
| 12:40 | drojf | magnuse! |
| 12:40 | wahanui | magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
| 12:40 | drojf | heh |
| 12:41 | cait | druthb! |
| 12:41 | drojf | cait! |
| 12:43 | tcohen | hi #koha, good morning! |
| 12:46 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
| 12:46 | magnuse | if you say so |
| 12:52 | tcohen | what exciting stuff will we work on today? |
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| 13:08 | cait | tcohen: do you wnat me to pick something for you? ;) |
| 13:10 | bug 14633? | |
| 13:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14633 major, P4, ---, John.Seymour, Signed Off , apache2-mpm-itk depencency makes Koha uninstallable on Debian Stretch |
| 13:10 | tcohen | cait: that cannot be fixed, unfortunately |
| 13:11 | cait | there is a patch |
| 13:11 | drojf | a magical patch |
| 13:11 | cait | dunno :) |
| 13:11 | but asking QA, not miracles :) | |
| 13:11 | drojf | if it fixes unfixable problems :) |
| 13:12 | tcohen | i thought itk wasn't available anymore |
| 13:12 | i'll QA it | |
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| 13:23 | magnuse | tcohen++ |
| 13:24 | cait | wow 160 registrations for kohacon |
| 13:24 | new record? | |
| 13:24 | tcohen | :/ |
| 13:25 | cait | why the sad face? |
| 13:26 | oh | |
| 13:26 | tcohen | cait: can u take a look at 15263? |
| 13:26 | I'm not sure I can QA it as I signed part of it already | |
| 13:26 | cait | and jonathan too |
| 13:26 | tsk :) | |
| 13:26 | yeah i can try | |
| 13:27 | maybe not today, but sometime this week? | |
| 13:28 | magnuse | bug 15263 |
| 13:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , XSLT display fetches sysprefs for every result processed |
| 13:28 | cait | ther are also signed patches for the REST API now |
| 13:28 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
| 13:28 | cait | forget there? |
| 13:28 | wahanui | cait: I forgot there |
| 13:28 | magnuse | nasty xsltses |
| 13:28 | oleonard | ther? |
| 13:28 | wahanui | hmmm... ther is any patche to solve it? or a feature in the queue to make the default value configurable |
| 13:29 | cait | the? |
| 13:29 | wahanui | the is a stop word |
| 13:29 | magnuse | STOP! |
| 13:29 | oleonard | wahanui: forget ther |
| 13:29 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot ther |
| 13:29 | cait | forget the |
| 13:29 | wahanui | cait: I forgot the |
| 13:29 | cait | the is not a stop word |
| 13:29 | the? | |
| 13:29 | wahanui | the is, like, not a stop word |
| 13:29 | cait | also... 11904 in terms of performance would be good |
| 13:30 | bug 13216 | |
| 13:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13216 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Signed Off , fix koha-shell to work with git/dev installs |
| 13:35 | magnuse | bug 11904 |
| 13:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Proposal for a uniform way to send messages to user interface |
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| 13:53 | drojf | are there problems regarding independentbranches in OPAC, or only in staff client? does independentbranches touch OPAC at all, or is only singlebranchmode relevant there? |
| 13:55 | tcohen | isn't singlebranch being deprecated? |
| 13:56 | drojf | oh true, pushed to master |
| 13:57 | cait | hm i think it doesn't have consequences for the opac |
| 13:57 | maybe reserveforothers has | |
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| 14:16 | tcohen | bug 11904 |
| 14:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Proposal for a uniform way to send messages to user interface |
| 14:20 | drojf | so to seperate the opacs in one koha instance there are only the env variables (opac_search_limit etc.) and no syspref? or am i missing something? never thought about it before |
| 14:21 | cait | drojf: nope i think you are right |
| 14:21 | the only way is the apache config things | |
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| 14:22 | cait | and not sure if that works with plack? |
| 14:22 | drojf | the real way is to use seperate instances ;) |
| 14:22 | cait | ... i know |
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| 14:25 | ccordova | hi, guys :-) |
| 14:26 | cait | hi ccordova |
| 14:32 | ccordova | I have a problem OPAC result, I pb 3.22.5 and plack when conducted a search shows the results but when passing a resulltado page to another page of results shows no result. |
| 14:32 | *pb = Koha | |
| 14:34 | my opac | |
| 14:34 | http://201.215.95.132/ | |
| 14:36 | sorry for my English :( | |
| 14:39 | cait | where are you from? |
| 14:39 | ccordova | Santiago |
| 14:39 | cait | i like the colors :) |
| 14:40 | tcohen: around maybe? | |
| 14:40 | tcohen | yes |
| 14:40 | cait | ccordova: i see what you mean, but not sure what may causing this |
| 14:41 | tcohen: do you have an idea maybe? | |
| 14:41 | wahanui | maybe is a momentaneous error |
| 14:41 | cait | paging seems broken |
| 14:41 | hm it looks like there is something odd about the sorting param | |
| 14:41 | http://201.215.95.132/cgi-bin/[…]_by=relevance_dsc | |
| 14:41 | it appears twice | |
| 14:42 | tcohen | something breaking JS? |
| 14:43 | cait | ccordova: hm wild guess... but could you try turning off the did you mean? |
| 14:45 | the paging is really odd | |
| 14:45 | shows 10 a page, but only jumps by 5? | |
| 14:45 | http://201.215.95.132/cgi-bin/[…]_by=relevance_dsc works but the generated | |
| 14:45 | http://201.215.95.132/cgi-bin/[…]_by=relevance_dsc doesn't | |
| 14:46 | hm don't see the problem in our 3.20.3 without plack | |
| 14:48 | ccordova | to remove the same thing happens plack |
| 14:50 | cait | ccordova: i am sorry, i am not sue what would causing this - it's odd |
| 14:52 | ccordova: did you change the search parameters maybe? | |
| 14:52 | are you running any local changes? | |
| 14:54 | kidclamp++ thx for commenting | |
| 14:57 | Joubu | cait, drojf: OVERRIDE_SYSPREF_ works under plack |
| 14:57 | cait | Joubu++ thx |
| 14:57 | so the separate opacs thing shoudl work too? | |
| 14:58 | Joubu | afaik yes |
| 14:58 | drojf | thanks Joubu |
| 14:59 | are these things documented somewhere besides bz and/or rfc in the wiki? | |
| 15:01 | kidclamp | Joubu - with no extra work? I nkow we were hitting some issues trying to implement |
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| 15:04 | tcohen | Joubu: charconv is just... useless |
| 15:04 | Joubu | kidclamp: please open a bug report if it does not |
| 15:05 | tcohen: you don't like useless subroutine? | |
| 15:05 | tcohen | Joubu: have you read it? |
| 15:06 | it always returns what was passed | |
| 15:06 | Joubu | tcohen: yes, it's magic |
| 15:06 | tcohen | without touching it .-D |
| 15:06 | ccordova | cait : parameters of search http://snag.gy/HuNDt.jpg |
| 15:06 | tcohen | if smth -> return @_ |
| 15:06 | Joubu | else return @_ :) |
| 15:06 | tcohen | if always_false_statement -> touch it |
| 15:06 | else return @_ | |
| 15:06 | AWESOME | |
| 15:07 | cait | ccordova: hm not sure because of the spanish, but try turning UseQueryParser OFF if is ON |
| 15:07 | kidclamp | @joubu++ |
| 15:07 | huginn | kidclamp: downloading the Perl source |
| 15:07 | Joubu | tcohen: see 12357 comment 53 |
| 15:07 | kidclamp | joubu++ |
| 15:07 | Joubu | kidclamp: what did I do? |
| 15:07 | cait | Joubu: he is going to file lots of bugs for you now ;) |
| 15:08 | kidclamp | lots of things joubu :-) general qa and helpfulness |
| 15:08 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 15:09 | btw, how should we move on bug 15967 now | |
| 15:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15967 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Print notices are not generated if the patron cannot be notified |
| 15:09 | cait | i don't want to sign if off currently |
| 15:09 | we are a bit low on qa people | |
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| 15:09 | tcohen | hey, someone please pass 14598 |
| 15:10 | cait | bug 14598 |
| 15:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14598 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , itemtype is not set on statistics by C4::Circulation::AddReturn |
| 15:10 | tcohen | it doesn't make any sense not to have it already |
| 15:10 | Joubu | cait: I think my follow-up is ok |
| 15:10 | kidclamp | I will SO 15967 if noone beats me to it today |
| 15:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:10 | Joubu | cait: we may fix it better later, but to make it backportable easily I'd prefer to have a quick&easy patch |
| 15:11 | cait | ok |
| 15:11 | not opposing that :) | |
| 15:11 | i will be stand by for QA | |
| 15:18 | thx for the help kidclamp | |
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| 15:19 | pianohacker | Joubu: *blink* OVERRIDE_SYSPREF_ works under Plack? How? |
| 15:20 | also hi y'all | |
| 15:22 | Joubu | pianohacker: I though it worked.... it does not? :) |
| 15:23 | pianohacker | Joubu: my understanding was that it couldn't, because SetEnvs aren't passed through the reverse-proxy to starman |
| 15:25 | Joubu | pianohacker: I am on something else, but will try to have a look of someone confirm and open a bug report |
| 15:26 | pianohacker | okey doke. No rush :) |
| 15:26 | Joubu | maybe tcohen already had a look |
| 15:33 | bag | morning |
| 15:36 | cait | morning bag |
| 15:37 | pianohacker | the most fearsome of bags |
| 15:37 | bag | roar! |
| 15:38 | drojf | uberbag |
| 15:39 | bag | uberROAR! |
| 15:39 | drojf | :D |
| 15:48 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 15:48 | wahanui | que tal, magnuse |
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| 15:56 | drojf | meeting, later #koha |
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| 16:33 | Joubu | bye #koha! |
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| 16:58 | cabillman | If I need to delete a ton of items. What would be the best method? Is it safe to just delete them from the items table? |
| 16:58 | or should i select the barcodes out and paste them into the batch item deletion catalog tool? | |
| 17:00 | I have to research what caused the problem but a librarian was trying to catalog something and koha generated 114,000 items | |
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| 17:15 | oleonard | cabillman: All items on the same record? |
| 17:16 | If so it might be simpler just to delete that record and re-do it. | |
| 17:16 | cabillman | oleonard: same biblionumber but it has a number of valid items as well |
| 17:17 | oleonard | cabillman: I don't know what the practical limit is on the batch item deletion tool, but it works. |
| 17:18 | cabillman | there are 400 valid items so deleting that doesn't seem practical |
| 17:19 | oleonard: so deleting them from the sql table isn't an option? | |
| 17:26 | quickly looking at the code it looks like it calls _koha_delete_item which just copies the data to deleted items before performing the "delete from" query on the items table | |
| 17:35 | cait | you would also have to reindex |
| 17:35 | if you delete item data | |
| 17:35 | or change it | |
| 17:35 | wahanui | cait: that doesn't look right |
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| 17:36 | cait | i missed the beginning of the conversation- but why not use the batch delete tool as oleonard suggested? |
| 17:36 | cabillman | cait: there are 114,000 items to delete |
| 17:36 | cait | hm ok |
| 17:36 | that#sa bit much for the tool | |
| 17:36 | cabillman | cait: but they were all created today after 12:00 so i have a sql query to select the items |
| 17:37 | cait | i think the batch edit works with up to 1000 . but might be mistaken |
| 17:37 | you could try it with a few first | |
| 17:37 | but as i said - full reindex after | |
| 17:37 | or at least reindexing the records you changed - but that might be about all? | |
| 17:38 | cabillman | cait: thanks for the info |
| 17:38 | cait: i'll wait until the day is over and do a database dump before running the delete | |
| 17:38 | and then do a full index | |
| 17:38 | cait | that's also a good idea :) |
| 17:39 | how did you accidentally add so many items? | |
| 17:39 | cabillman | i have no idea... i got a phone call from a librarian who wasn't sure why all their barcodes were in use |
| 17:40 | if I can figure it out i will certainly open a bug report :) | |
| 17:44 | kidclamp | we did recently see a library do that with about 3 million items |
| 17:55 | cabillman | oleonard, cait: thanks for your help |
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| 18:55 | Brooke | o/ |
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| 19:00 | oleonard | Bye #koha! |
| 19:02 | Brooke | @seen nengard |
| 19:02 | huginn | Brooke: nengard was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 1 hour, 7 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <nengard> bug 16151 reported |
| 19:02 | Brooke | nutty fudgekins. Email it is |
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| 20:08 | ibeardslee | mtj: elves |
| 20:44 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7736: (QA followup) Add missing body id and class <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]721236b9d934a19a7> |
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| 20:54 | drojf | evening |
| 20:55 | cait | hi drojf |
| 20:56 | meeting finished? | |
| 20:58 | drojf | finished for me, there are stil some people moving server stuff around |
| 21:20 | eythian | drojf: leave approved for Berlin and Greece. |
| 21:20 | Now just need to book things. | |
| 21:21 | I think that'll be tomorrow night's project. | |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | eythian: that museum looks weird and amazing |
| 21:21 | cait | yay:) |
| 21:22 | eythian | wizzyrea: the museum is normal, the artist was a bit weird 🙂 |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | well yes. |
| 21:22 | that | |
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| 21:25 | eythian | cait: I'll also get a couple of days around things to sight see |
| 21:27 | rangi | florent: Koha::Patron (not borrower :)) its borrower on 3.22.x patron on master |
| 21:27 | florent | rangi: I was just going to ask. Thank you |
| 21:27 | cait | :) |
| 21:28 | we had both at some point - now it's fixed | |
| 21:31 | eythian: cool, when do you arrive in Berlin? | |
| 21:31 | eythian | Dunno yet, Saturday or Sunday perhaps. |
| 21:32 | cait | ah cool |
| 21:32 | eythian | You? |
| 21:32 | wahanui | You are welcome |
| 21:32 | cait | monday, but quite early |
| 21:32 | eythian | Cool |
| 21:32 | cait | my flight is around 9 or so |
| 21:32 | eythian | I'm going to take the train. |
| 21:33 | cait | almost 10 hours form here i think |
| 21:33 | eythian | Is Greece shengen? |
| 21:34 | Ah, it is, good. | |
| 21:34 | drojf | eythian: cool! i won't be able to make amsterdam in april, have to postpone that after kohacon |
| 21:35 | eythian | Oh well, it'll be summeryer then anyway. |
| 21:35 | drojf | indeed |
| 21:36 | eythian | Though it was like 19 the yesterday. |
| 21:36 | *here | |
| 21:36 | Too hot. | |
| 21:36 | @wunder ams | |
| 21:36 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 11.9°C (11:30 PM CEST on April 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:43 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 21:43 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 14.0°C (11:20 PM CEST on April 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:44 | drojf | @wunder thessaloniki |
| 21:44 | huginn | drojf: Error: _ssl.c:475: The handshake operation timed out |
| 21:44 | drojf | @wunder thessaloniki |
| 21:44 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 11.0°C (12:20 AM EEST on April 05, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:44 | drojf | come on |
| 21:46 | * drojf | should go to be |
| 21:46 | drojf | good night #koha |
| 21:46 | rangi | cya drojf |
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| 22:23 | florent | rangi: based on DBIx::Class documentation, there is a parameter called 'disable_sth_caching' which can be set to 1 to disable SQL statements caching via DBI 'prepare_cached' |
| 22:23 | rangi | right, so that implies they should all be cached by default eh? |
| 22:23 | florent | rangi: while I can't find the positive statement about caching, it ... |
| 22:24 | I think so. | |
| 22:24 | and it is not set in Koha::Schema->connect() | |
| 22:24 | rangi | right |
| 22:24 | florent | so all SQL statements using Koha->schema->connect are already cached |
| 22:25 | step 2: isolate some code in an object and write many tests | |
| 22:26 | rangi | sounds good to me |
| 22:26 | florent | me too :) |
| 22:28 | * cait | likes 'many tests' :) |
| 22:33 | florent | cait: me too! We never have enough tests. |
| 22:33 | cait | so true :) |
| 22:38 | rangi | florent: http://splitter.koha-community.org/ <--- this might come in handy too |
| 22:38 | it helps spot any patches that are waiting that might be touching the same thing | |
| 22:41 | eg I found | |
| 22:41 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=12598 | |
| 22:41 | huginn | 04Bug 12598: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Patch doesn't apply , New misc/import_borrowers.pl command line tool |
| 22:41 | rangi | which has this patch |
| 22:41 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]48755&action=diff | |
| 22:41 | amongst others | |
| 22:41 | florent | Indeed. Thank you. I might even figure out what @bad_dates once did. The variable is declared but not - apparently - used. Or it is and I might break something soon. |
| 22:41 | rangi | :) |
| 22:47 | * Francesca | waves |
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| 23:05 | florent | rangi: sorry to bother you but what does 'patch does not apply' mean? Part of bug 12598 involves migrating all the import code into Koha::Patron::Import, which is my next step |
| 23:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Patch doesn't apply , New misc/import_borrowers.pl command line tool |
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| 23:06 | rangi | it means one of those patches doesn't apply cleanly on master |
| 23:06 | it might be a simple conflict, or it might be a big one, but I reckon trying to apply them is a good starting point | |
| 23:07 | cait | khall is not around at the moment - i think if it oculd be fixed/rebased that would be nice |
| 23:07 | bye all :) | |
| 23:07 | Francesca | bye cait |
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| 23:10 | florent | I will look into it. |
| 23:10 | rangi | cool |
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