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| 03:08 | wizzyrea | man that question has been hanging all day |
| 03:08 | it's been driving me nuts1 | |
| 03:08 | ! | |
| 03:08 | I keep expecting cbrannon to answer and NOTHING. | |
| 03:08 | :) | |
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| 05:45 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:47 | * Francesca | waves back |
| 05:50 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 05:50 | @wunder boo | |
| 05:50 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on March 31, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:51 | magnuse | and fresh snow on the ground |
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| 06:38 | Joubu | hi |
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| 06:52 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:52 | wahanui | que tal, alex_a |
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| 06:59 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:59 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
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| 07:16 | cait | morning #koha |
| 07:52 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 07:53 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
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| 07:55 | magnuse | wb Francesca |
| 07:56 | Francesca | thanks |
| 07:56 | @wunder wlg | |
| 07:56 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (8:30 PM NZDT on March 31, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:01 | cait | hi Francesca :) |
| 08:01 | Francesca | hi cait! |
| 08:01 | magnuse | Francesca: wow, indian summer in nz? |
| 08:02 | Francesca | its been fantastically wRM |
| 08:02 | warm | |
| 08:02 | almost too hot some days | |
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| 08:16 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
| 08:18 | magnuse | hiya LibraryClaire |
| 08:19 | LibraryClaire | hey magnuse :) |
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| 08:48 | cait | hey, it's LibraryClaire :) |
| 08:52 | LibraryClaire | hi cait :) |
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| 09:26 | benjamin | Hi, anyone like to enlighten me on their setup of the new RFC Restful API with Swagger under Plack? seems I'm missing the entire `api` folder and running into `not found`. Installed v3.22.03 |
| 09:35 | cait | benjamin: hm maybe wait for tcohen or jajm |
| 09:35 | i have to pass on that one i am afraid | |
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| 09:37 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 09:37 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 09:37 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 09:38 | benjamin | hi cait, no worries! Long time no see, by the way! Been off Koha for a while now, but now 100% in, and REST Api no.1 priority |
| 09:39 | cait | it would probably be good to get some input there |
| 09:40 | benjamin: maybe try taking a look at bugzilla? | |
| 09:40 | most of the discussion si taking place there | |
| 09:40 | and some patches waiting for sign off it hink | |
| 09:40 | benjamin | good call, I'm on it! |
| 09:40 | cait | i just tried a search for "rest api" seems to create a good list |
| 09:44 | matts | Hello #koha ! |
| 09:45 | Do you know if there's a webservice in koha that allows to search biblio by title or is*n ? | |
| 09:45 | cait | SRU |
| 09:45 | is*n? | |
| 09:46 | my coworker is rather fond of SRU for searching Koha - it seems to work well | |
| 09:46 | matts | ok... Is there some documentation about that ? |
| 09:47 | (issn/isbn) | |
| 09:47 | cait | http://manual.koha-community.org/3.22/en/sru.html |
| 09:48 | marcelr gave a talk on it once too :) http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]n12-koha-and-sru/ | |
| 09:49 | matts | thx cait... Is it enabled by default ? |
| 09:49 | cait | hm you might have to enable it |
| 09:49 | similar like z39.50 | |
| 09:49 | marcelr | it is a parameter for koha-create in debian packages |
| 09:51 | matts | marcelr, thanks. Can it be enabled on an existing koha install ? |
| 09:51 | marcelr | manually in any case :) |
| 09:52 | cait | i think probably have to uncomment in koha-conf.xml? |
| 09:52 | not sure if thereis more to it | |
| 09:52 | marcelr | just uncomment some lines in koha-conf and restart zebra |
| 09:52 | cait | marcelr++ |
| 09:53 | matts | okay, thx |
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| 10:01 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 10:54 | * magnuse | waves to benjamin |
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| 11:00 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 11:15 | magnuse | hi cait and drojf |
| 11:21 | * benjamin | waves back to magnuse |
| 11:36 | magnuse | huh, if i want to say that patrons with more than x$ in fines are blocked from borrowing any more books, where do i configure it? |
| 11:42 | ah, noissuescharge | |
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| 12:01 | drojf | hei magnuse and cait |
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| 12:17 | drojf | upgrading dsl from 10/1 to 50/10 was not a bad idea |
| 12:18 | we'll see how long it takes until the 300gb/month cap makes me quit | |
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| 12:45 | benjamin | jajm: if you're online, care to help with some REStful API under plack setup issues? |
| 12:49 | Joubu | benjamin: might be better to shoot without asking ;) |
| 12:54 | benjamin | heh, ok. Problem is, activating /api under plack and apache-shared-intranet-plack.conf seems to give only 404 any way I try, and 500 if trying to access /api/v1/swagger.json directly. Had to copy api folder from source into /usr/share/koha/api, since it is ignored in the Makefile.PL |
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| 12:58 | Joubu | benjamin: Have you uncommented the last part of the httpd? |
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| 13:01 | benjamin | joubu: meaning the mod_rewrite part with api? if so, yes. |
| 13:02 | tcohen | bonjour |
| 13:02 | drojf | while reading about the bywater coverflow plugin, i wonder if we want to have something like community supported plugins (that have their bugs dealt with via the koha bugzilla) or if that should in general be handled by the provider of the plugin |
| 13:03 | hi tcohen. building a package for bug 16138, may have questions when testing. does the problem appear every time? | |
| 13:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16138 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Restart plack when rotating logfiles |
| 13:03 | Joubu | benjamin: debian/templates/apache-shared-intranet-plack.conf: ProxyPass+ProxyPassReverse |
| 13:03 | bag | I thought it should be handled by the plugin builder |
| 13:04 | Joubu | benjamin: etc/koha-httpd.conf 253 # Uncomment this VirtualHost to enable API access through |
| 13:04 | tcohen | drojf: cool |
| 13:04 | benjamin: you should ask jajm for help regarding that | |
| 13:04 | Joubu | tcohen: that's what he did :) |
| 13:05 | tcohen | it is not clear to me that we should be using the CGI compatibility mode in plack for the API |
| 13:05 | drojf | bag: that would spare us the trouble of deciding which plugins should be "community supported" ;) |
| 13:05 | tcohen | i tried for the 3.22 release and didn't succeed the first day i tried, so i moved on to other stuff |
| 13:05 | but is worth making work ASAP so endpoints start to grow! | |
| 13:06 | bag | drojf: I think that is the bueaty of the plugins :) |
| 13:06 | drojf | bag: on the other hand, what if i come up with a plugin idea, release it but don't have resources to work on it |
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| 13:06 | drojf | like, maintain it |
| 13:06 | benjamin | tcohen: perhaps thats what I'm struggling with? what's the easiest way to use api under plack? |
| 13:07 | bag | if it works for you then it works for you drojf :) |
| 13:07 | tcohen | google for running mojolicious stuff in plack .-D |
| 13:07 | s/in/under/ | |
| 13:08 | benjamin | ah. so noone is using it yet, then, I suppose... :( |
| 13:08 | drojf | bag: what i think might possibly happen is that with more plugins we will have more abandoned plugins that work on one version and not on another, but people asking about it on koha lists, because they think it is a part of koha |
| 13:09 | tcohen | plugins should have a "version compatibility check" and maintainers should care to maintain that supported versions list |
| 13:09 | bag | ideally yes |
| 13:09 | drojf | tcohen: does the logrotate problem appear every time, or do i have to be lucky to reproduce it? |
| 13:09 | bag | keyword “should" |
| 13:10 | tcohen | drojf: the latter. I set a VM with 3.22+plack, it started failing at some point, and i was able to reproduce it by running logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 13:11 | bag: i was thinking the way wordpress does it, users tend to rank plugins also | |
| 13:11 | francharb | Hello all |
| 13:12 | drojf | we will probably need a list of installed plugins for user support questions then? or do we have that already, on the about page or somewhere? |
| 13:12 | hi francharb | |
| 13:13 | i have not really worked with koha plugins yet, sorry if the questions are stupid ;) | |
| 13:13 | bag | I don’t think we should have “community supported” plugins - if it’s some thing the community wants it should be in koha proper |
| 13:14 | plugins give you the flexibility to do something wild that wouldn’t really be useful wide spread | |
| 13:14 | drojf | i like wild :D |
| 13:15 | bag | like - DELETE * from biblios; |
| 13:15 | :P | |
| 13:15 | drojf | still for user support one has to know what is running in a users koha? |
| 13:16 | how would i know if an error is a bug in koha or in a plugin | |
| 13:16 | or are they restricted from doing certain things in koha? | |
| 13:17 | bag | the definition of user support could vary ;) |
| 13:17 | drojf | they could change whatever they like, roight? |
| 13:17 | i mean something like free community support on the mailing list | |
| 13:18 | if a user says "i have koha 16.05 and x is broken", i would have to know if that is a koha problem or maybe actually an error in a plugin | |
| 13:18 | if it's a client i know what they are running :P | |
| 13:18 | or at least i hope so. heh | |
| 13:18 | bag | not nessecary - I think the first thing is understanding the problem - if you can’t repeat it - then you don’t know the problem |
| 13:19 | we could always say - we can’t repeat it :) | |
| 13:19 | drojf | but that means spending time testing it |
| 13:19 | bag | which is what we are all doing all the time ;) |
| 13:20 | drojf | i'll postpone the problem until we have a gazillion of plugins and people start to annoy me :P |
| 13:20 | bag | which I’m betting on will not happen :) “tons of plugins” |
| 13:21 | tcohen | i have a use case for exotic barcode calculation, that should be handled using a plugin, instead of the current "drop a .pl file somewhere" approach |
| 13:21 | drojf | probably not, now that people will switch to "microservices" and using only bits and pieces of koha they will never actually see ;) |
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| 13:27 | magnuse | the disintegration of the ils... |
| 13:28 | drojf | exciting, isn't it? |
| 13:28 | tcohen | monolitic rules :-P |
| 13:28 | Joubu | tcohen: QAing bug 16172 |
| 13:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16172 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , OAI Server tests broken by bug 15946 |
| 13:28 | Joubu | tcohen: I get t/db_dependent/OAI/Server.t .. 1/13 Can't locate object method "xslt" via package "Koha::OAI::Server::ListMetadataFormats" at Koha/OAI/Server/Repository.pm line 139. |
| 13:28 | with and without the patch | |
| 13:29 | I guess I have missed something | |
| 13:29 | drojf | i'll have to make a price list for every single part of koha. wanna rent the patron module for a month? i'll give you a discount on special attribute fields |
| 13:29 | tcohen | perl koha_perl_deps.pl |
| 13:29 | HTTP::OAI version missmatch? | |
| 13:29 | Joubu | no |
| 13:29 | I have just installed it | |
| 13:30 | tcohen | installed like sudo apt-get install koha-perldeps? |
| 13:31 | or just cpanm-ed the latest version? | |
| 13:31 | Joubu | installed like sudo apt-get install libhttp-oai-perl |
| 13:32 | 4.03 | |
| 13:32 | tcohen | debian jessie? |
| 13:32 | Joubu | yes |
| 13:32 | which version are you using? | |
| 13:33 | * tcohen | is launching kohadevbox:ansible |
| 13:34 | tcohen | vagrantkohadevbox:~$ apt-cache policy libhttp-oai-perl |
| 13:34 | libhttp-oai-perl: | |
| 13:34 | Installed: 3.27-1 | |
| 13:34 | Candidate: 3.27-1 | |
| 13:34 | Version table: | |
| 13:34 | *** 3.27-1 0 | |
| 13:34 | 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages | |
| 13:34 | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | |
| 13:35 | drojf | fwiw, i got 3.271 on jessie too |
| 13:35 | Joubu | sorry, testing |
| 13:35 | drojf | 3.27-1 |
| 13:35 | Joubu | I have upgraded some weeks ago, forgot that |
| 13:35 | :) | |
| 13:35 | erk | |
| 13:35 | tcohen | Joubu: when I added the ->xslt call (unrelated to this bug) I was looking at the 4.03 docs |
| 13:35 | so I'm now worried | |
| 13:35 | * Joubu | is launching kohadevbox :) |
| 13:36 | drojf | tcohen: you should add koha-plack to https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 13:37 | tcohen | and certaintly koha-indexer! |
| 13:37 | drojf | indeed |
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| 13:38 | * tcohen | goes write a patch so the indexer in ON by default |
| 13:39 | Joubu | tcohen: where is ->xslt?? http://search.cpan.org/~timbro[…]OAI/Repository.pm |
| 13:39 | tcohen | *hm, he discovered it* |
| 13:42 | http://search.cpan.org/~timbro[…]P/OAI/Response.pm | |
| 13:43 | Joubu | tcohen: yes but 135 $response = $class->new($self, %attr); |
| 13:44 | won't be a HTTP::OAI::Response but a Koha::OAI::Server::Repository, based on HTTP::OAI::Repository | |
| 13:45 | drojf | oh, koha 3.22.5 with plack feels much faster than what i remember from 3.22.0 with plack. did it get some of the cache fixes already? |
| 13:45 | Joubu | it works on jessie, but I don't understand why |
| 13:45 | tcohen | use base ("HTTP::OAI::Repository"); |
| 13:45 | drojf: yes! | |
| 13:46 | Joubu | drojf: 11998 |
| 13:46 | tcohen: yes, and? HTTP::OAI::Repository does not have a ->xslt whatever the version | |
| 13:46 | bag | a few drojf |
| 13:46 | tcohen | Joubu: all HTTP::OAI::{Verb} modules must be based on HTTP::OAI::Repository |
| 13:46 | bag | more to come |
| 13:48 | tcohen | Joubu: @ISA = qw( HTTP::OAI::Response ); |
| 13:48 | http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]P/OAI/Identify.pm | |
| 13:48 | drojf | yeah awesome, huge improvement! :) |
| 13:48 | i have to rebenchmark it on the raspi ;) | |
| 13:48 | tcohen | Joubu: damn, he refactored... |
| 13:52 | Joubu: in theory it should still work, because he made verbs inherit HTTP::OAI::Verb instead of HTTP::OAI::Response | |
| 13:53 | but HTTP::OAI::Verb, ultimately returns an HTTP::OAI::Response object, that *still* implements xslt | |
| 13:53 | Joubu | drojf: they are some wild benchmarks on bug 16140 |
| 13:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16140 enhancement, P2, ---, jweaver, In Discussion , Only clear L1 cache when needed |
| 13:53 | tcohen | http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]P/OAI/Response.pm |
| 13:53 | Joubu | there* |
| 13:53 | tcohen | and http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]/HTTP/OAI/Verb.pm |
| 13:54 | he managed to make the code unreadable | |
| 13:55 | drojf | tcohen: where did you get the errors for 16138? in the browser or some log file? |
| 13:55 | Joubu | tcohen: so.... the conclusion is that your bug fix can go for now |
| 13:55 | tcohen | drojf: browser |
| 13:55 | Internal server errror | |
| 13:55 | in both OPAC and Intranet | |
| 13:56 | Joubu: conclusion is that dcook was right about HTTP::OAI 4.03 being a threat for us | |
| 13:56 | (i recall he wrote to the dev list about it) | |
| 13:57 | drojf | tcohen: ok. if i can't get that, i will just test for regression. the patch is small, so i think to verify that plack works after logrotate should be ok |
| 13:57 | tcohen | drojf: it is straightforward, discussion is if we need to take the service down during logrotate |
| 13:57 | starman author/maintainer says yes | |
| 13:57 | we could just find another way | |
| 13:58 | to avoid it | |
| 13:58 | this is a workaround only | |
| 13:58 | (we do the same for the zebra server) | |
| 13:58 | Joubu | tcohen: could you please open a bug report? |
| 13:58 | tcohen | (and apache) |
| 13:58 | bag | hmm yeah dcook did say something about that |
| 13:59 | drojf | what is the harm in restarting the service once a day? |
| 13:59 | tcohen | i think it is once a week |
| 14:00 | drojf | i mean, why bother thinking of something else if this way works |
| 14:00 | bag | very cool https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16155 |
| 14:00 | huginn | 04Bug 16155: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Composite keys in TestBuilder and more |
| 14:01 | bag | ah just missed marcel |
| 14:01 | tcohen | drojf: we should be relying on Koha::Log4Perl instead, for instance |
| 14:02 | using the Plack::Middleware::Log4perl middleware | |
| 14:02 | consistency + avoid the issue | |
| 14:04 | Joubu | cannot QA anything before tomorrow, I have reach the 100PQA for this month |
| 14:04 | will have to FQA now!! *gniarkgniarkgniark* | |
| 14:08 | tcohen | noooooo |
| 14:09 | * tcohen | fears for 14598 |
| 14:10 | cait | bug 14598 |
| 14:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14598 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , itemtype is not set on statistics by C4::Circulation::AddReturn |
| 14:10 | cait | Joubu: congrats ;) |
| 14:10 | tried to catch up, but too late | |
| 14:12 | tcohen | Joubu: don't fail it! I even took the time to have regression tests for it! |
| 14:12 | hahaha | |
| 14:12 | Joubu | tcohen: it's stuck! because of the tests failing |
| 14:13 | tcohen | really ? I didn't notice |
| 14:13 | probably not my tests :-P | |
| 14:15 | Joubu | tcohen: bug 15599 |
| 14:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15599 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Unit tests output warnings |
| 14:16 | tcohen | Joubu: oh, I wasn't aware of it |
| 14:17 | fair enough | |
| 14:17 | Joubu | tcohen: 14598#c63 is "We need to fix bug 15599 first." |
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| 14:21 | Joubu | see you #koha! |
| 14:21 | tcohen | Joubu: |
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| 14:35 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu I'm not sure Kyle's patch is wrong (15599) because we are explicitly testing the use case in which it falls back to biblio-level itype. In other tests, we should build test data properly, not on this one, because we are explicitly testing a bad scenario |
| 14:35 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:41 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 14:41 | huginn | drojf: Error: _ssl.c:475: The handshake operation timed out |
| 14:41 | drojf | huh? |
| 14:49 | kidclamp | morning |
| 14:52 | tcohen | hi kidclamp |
| 14:52 | kidclamp | hi tcohen |
| 14:52 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 14:52 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Valle Escondido, Cordoba, Argentina, Córdoba, Argentina is 27.6°C (11:52 AM ART on March 31, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:53 | tcohen | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 14:53 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 11.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on March 31, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:57 | drojf | @wunder thessaloniki |
| 14:57 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 20.0°C (5:50 PM EEST on March 31, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:57 | drojf | @wunder when is kohacon starting, are we there yet? |
| 14:57 | huginn | drojf: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
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| 15:16 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:19 | pianohacker | hi |
| 15:26 | cait | HI |
| 15:26 | oups | |
| 15:26 | hi :) | |
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| 15:37 | pianohacker | HI CAIT |
| 15:58 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Updating the Schema files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cb7f4eb7f9b2f836f> / DBrev updates for Bug 16007 - Correction of 'Remove columns branchcode, <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d32b69322cb5399f2> / Bug 16007: Simplify the DB entry <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f;h=4a012f863ec56 |
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| 16:58 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16172: fix OAI Server tests broken by bug 15946 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e341bcc29401122ae> |
| 17:16 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 17:18 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15793 - UX of circulation patron search with long lists of returned borrowers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a17c1e88b8adc3c34> / Update Schema Bug 16004 - Replace items.new with items.new_status <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ab0f535251afd977f> / DBrev Bug 16004 - Replace items.new with items.new_status <ht |
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| 18:08 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: fixing DBrev Bug 16103 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]80bd5b797da2a0482> |
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| 18:18 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15323: Use fixtures for the active currency <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]82b474a80e43d8e29> |
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| 18:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16163: Show message if there are no dictionary definitions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a4547876cc2ead96> / Bug 11498 - Prevent bypassing sco timeout with print dialog <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13c6fd8cadfdf938d> / Bug 13132: Add confirm dialog for deleting reports from the reports toolbar <http://gi |
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| 19:39 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16092: Fix error dialog and introduce the Font Awesome icons when delete a branc... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]11d1d0b10ddaf9149> / Bug 16152: Rename column to Actions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3d25d5122392ab2b6> / Bug 16153: Adding "actions" class to Label Creator table actions so the buttons... <h |
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| 19:47 | rangi | hey aleisha_ |
| 19:48 | cait joined #koha | |
| 19:48 | aleisha_ | hi rangi |
| 19:48 | wfh today | |
| 19:48 | rangi | sweet as |
| 19:51 | * cait | waves |
| 19:51 | cait | sushi for dinner :D |
| 19:55 | aleisha_ | yum! |
| 19:55 | cait | yeah, best place in town :) |
| 19:57 | eythian | rangi: do you have hashigo app notifications on, and did you just get one? |
| 19:58 | rangi | hmm i dont have them turned on at the moment |
| 19:58 | eythian | damn |
| 19:59 | ibeardslee: how about you? | |
| 19:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: DBrev Bug 16070 - Empty (undef) system preferences may cause some issues <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3458381f9c53835c6> / Bug 16070: Add atomic update file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]029c07a403fa135ad> / Bug 16070: Default value for sysprefs should be an empty string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ |
| 20:06 | eythian | rangi: can you turn it on? I want to test some stuff that may depend on location. |
| 20:06 | ibeardslee | no sorry don't have the notifications on |
| 20:06 | eythian | you're both terrible people. |
| 20:06 | ibeardslee: turn it on too for a bit please :) | |
| 20:07 | ibeardslee | please hold .. .. hmm I did (depends on location). |
| 20:07 | eythian | hmm, did you get a notification 15 or so minutes ago? |
| 20:07 | (I guess not, or you would have mentioned) | |
| 20:07 | * ibeardslee | turns gps on tablet on |
| 20:08 | ibeardslee | yes |
| 20:08 | eythian | yes to what? |
| 20:08 | ibeardslee | yes I would have mentioned |
| 20:08 | eythian | OK |
| 20:08 | ibeardslee | .. also #equifoss instead of #koha? |
| 20:09 | eythian | ibeardslee: rangi isn't there |
| 20:09 | ibeardslee | ahh |
| 20:09 | rangi | keep falling off |
| 20:09 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16058: Delete individual news item from koha-news.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]55fe2a233d71466e9> |
| 20:10 | rangi | its on now |
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| 20:22 | drojf | evening |
| 20:22 | so we got only 3 ebsco talks at kohacon :P | |
| 20:23 | cait | oh 3? |
| 20:23 | wahanui | 3 is not. |
| 20:23 | drojf | 3 that are labelled ebsco |
| 20:23 | maybe there is more | |
| 20:23 | cait | i was thinkingonly 2 |
| 20:24 | drojf | ebsco plugin, ebsco derheißescheiß microservices and somethingsomething a division of ebsco |
| 20:25 | rangi | yeah, it was going to be 2 |
| 20:25 | but someone else pulled out | |
| 20:25 | alvets talk will be good | |
| 20:25 | * cait | should have send an abstract |
| 20:25 | drojf | anyway i got a slot so it's gonna be the best kohacon ever. lol |
| 20:25 | rangi | he has been to kohacon in argentina already too |
| 20:25 | and the plugin is gplv3 :) | |
| 20:25 | cait | he recordedthesessions :) |
| 20:25 | bag | my abstract - “don’t let me ramble - feed me coffee” |
| 20:26 | cait | drojf: you already had a kohacon presentation |
| 20:26 | rangi | the other 2 are straight sales |
| 20:26 | drojf | yes but that was forced so university would pay my trip ;) |
| 20:26 | rangi | but im hoping they will talk about Koha more than they talk about their stuff |
| 20:26 | cait | now you forced yourself... to pay your trip? |
| 20:26 | drojf | i would have paid my trip anyway :) |
| 20:27 | i'm a cool boss | |
| 20:27 | eythian | oh, I need to work out getting there |
| 20:27 | cait | hehe |
| 20:27 | drojf | eythian: if you come to berlin, there is a plane straight to thessaloniki ;) |
| 20:28 | eythian | drojf: I'm seriously considering that |
| 20:28 | drojf | it's the best option for everyone! |
| 20:28 | eythian | even though there's a plane straight from here too, I'm sure :) |
| 20:28 | drojf | :) |
| 20:28 | rangi | get the 6.35am one .. |
| 20:28 | then i wont be the only one on it | |
| 20:28 | :) | |
| 20:28 | eythian | haha |
| 20:28 | what a terrible sounding idea | |
| 20:28 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:28 | cait | rangi: wasn't it 6? |
| 20:28 | rangi | yeah it changed |
| 20:28 | cait | oh... to later |
| 20:29 | drojf | or get the 16 one with the normal people not getting up at 4 at night :P |
| 20:29 | cait | you are lucky :) |
| 20:29 | rangi | i figure ill just stay at the pub until 4 |
| 20:29 | hehe | |
| 20:29 | cait | i really hope we will make it |
| 20:29 | * cait | is kind of doubtful about the ariline |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | O.O |
| 20:29 | cait | drojf: don't fly without me ok? |
| 20:29 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15931: Replace relative path with /cgi-bin/koha/ <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4c7224774a048d4ac> / Bug 15931: Removing link to records if authority is not used by any records <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3e6699e8ff531fd20> |
| 20:29 | drojf | cait: don't miss the plane then please |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | doubtful as in "it might fall out of the sky" or "it might fly to the wrong airport" or "it may not be on time" |
| 20:30 | none of these sound like great doubts to have about an airline... | |
| 20:30 | drojf | what is it? easyjet? they are cheap, but the planes fly, at least they did when i last used them |
| 20:30 | rangi | mine is berlin air |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | thumbs up |
| 20:31 | eythian | where are people staying in Thessaloniki? |
| 20:31 | drojf | they are cheap too :P |
| 20:31 | cait | i will try - but you are the host in berlin, so you will have to take care i don't miss it, right? |
| 20:31 | rangi | eythian: hotel olympia |
| 20:31 | drojf | eythian: hotel… something |
| 20:31 | yeah that | |
| 20:31 | wahanui | yeah that is golded jcamins |
| 20:31 | eythian | oh, I was talking to someone who is Greek and has been recommending Koha to libraries there. He might come too. |
| 20:31 | drojf | the should give me the room for free for being the first one booking and now everybody goes there |
| 20:31 | rangi | eythian: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_is_arriving_when |
| 20:32 | drojf | bad luck, ABC hotel for having fake free wifi, or we would all have ended up at your place |
| 20:33 | rangi | eythian: also this is close to the hotel and university in greece http://thehoppypub.gr/ |
| 20:33 | eythian | drojf: where is your info on your hackfest thing? |
| 20:33 | nice | |
| 20:33 | rangi | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lin_Hackfest_2016 |
| 20:33 | drojf | eythian: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lin_Hackfest_2016 |
| 20:34 | eythian | tq |
| 20:34 | OK, so Berlin is, what, a 10 minute bike from here? | |
| 20:35 | drojf | yup |
| 20:35 | eythian | jesus those flight prices are cheap, I forget how things are here. |
| 20:35 | rangi | yup |
| 20:36 | i get into berlin at 6pm on 24/5 | |
| 20:39 | bag | @later tell jajm - I think this one is for you -> https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16146 |
| 20:39 | huginn | bag: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:39 | 04Bug 16146: normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , [3.22] ACQ: Previewed records in Z39.50 search results are wrong | |
| 20:39 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14257: Follow-up - Add documentation, fix typo, fix test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]106567340a8d1e1b0> / Bug 14257 - Add show_attributes to GetPatronInfo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aa8fb8fabf012f5b2> / Bug 14257 - Add show_attributes to GetPatronInfo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; | |
| 20:40 | eythian | drojf: what's the best station to come into if I train? Berlin Hbf? |
| 20:40 | I presume everything transfers from there anyway? | |
| 20:41 | drojf | yes. you will usually have spandau as an alternative, that is far away from everything, don't get off there |
| 20:42 | eythian | OK |
| 20:42 | looks like about 6 hours by train, that's not bad. | |
| 20:42 | drojf | if you stay where rangi stays, you can take a direct bus (M41) |
| 20:42 | cait | closer than from here :) |
| 20:46 | drojf | we have a lot of community building stuff this kohacon |
| 20:47 | eythian | https://owncloud.kallisti.net.[…]s/In9LhDHg1jRhSJa <-- I like the map, it's so ... details |
| 20:47 | *detailed | |
| 20:48 | drojf | all the important stuff is there! |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | teehee |
| 20:49 | eythian | I think it was just slow, it got there in the end |
| 20:57 | €39 for a train, €81 if I want one I can change or cancel. That seems like an excessive markup. | |
| 21:00 | drojf | don't change or cancel. or book two 39€ tickets and use one, it's cheaper than the other one |
| 21:01 | buying train tickets is like a lottery these days | |
| 21:08 | eythian | I can leave Centraal at 09:00 and arrive around 17:00, those are pretty reasonable times. |
| 21:08 | rangi | i wonder what the best wanna-be award is? |
| 21:09 | eythian | I'm just planning it to get leave etc. |
| 21:11 | drojf | rangi: i was wondering that too |
| 21:11 | eythian | y'know, I could just go on the Sunday, take one more day of leave, but have two full free days there. |
| 21:11 | I might do that. | |
| 21:11 | Or even go on the Saturday. | |
| 21:11 | ? | |
| 21:12 | cait | eythian: i am in berlin monday... if you want to do sight seeing:) |
| 21:12 | rangi: yeah - me too | |
| 21:13 | drojf | cait brings all the sights to berlin. and takes them back home when she leaves ;) |
| 21:13 | cait | hm? |
| 21:13 | oh gr. | |
| 21:13 | eythian | cait: count me in :) |
| 21:13 | haha :) | |
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| 21:22 | * wizzyrea | is a bit jealous of all of you being able to get together |
| 21:27 | drojf | you should come :) |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | Believe me when I say I'd like to |
| 21:28 | there's this little problem of having the funds to do so (and other varying issues) | |
| 21:32 | cait | maybe we need to get some of tohse remote robot things... |
| 21:34 | drojf | ? |
| 21:34 | cait | i have no idea what they are called |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | haha I've seen those |
| 21:36 | drojf | i will just assume you are not talking about sex toys and try not to ask about it |
| 21:36 | damn | |
| 21:36 | alomst worked | |
| 21:36 | *almost | |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | I have not seen those ones. |
| 21:36 | cait | i was thinking of a robot conference participant |
| 21:37 | remote controlled moving around with camera on top? | |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 21:37 | drojf | haha ok so we just stay at home/work on irc as usual but have boths gather at a conference? :D |
| 21:37 | bots | |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | http://www.smith.edu/news/robot-on-campus/ |
| 21:38 | this kind of thing | |
| 21:38 | drojf | a video conferencing segway? |
| 21:39 | cait | i know it's not the same... but it would be kinda cool :) |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | http://perezhilton.com/2014-01[…]ficiate-bare-ring |
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| 21:39 | drojf | we could make them start pub fights and run through the city |
| 21:40 | thessaloniki invaded by video conference alien things | |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | that's the best article |
| 21:40 | er not the best article | |
| 21:40 | drab | hi, so I managed to rescue this failed old koha instance and restore the db on a latest install however they are having troubles with users not being able to login into the opac |
| 21:40 | I've tried to look at the databse and do some debugging, but I'm not a perl guy and the db is pretty complicated | |
| 21:40 | bag | melia and sam had those at their wedding |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | ^ that's who I was thinking of |
| 21:40 | drab | as far as I can tell all users seem to be in the "borrowers" table. is that correct? |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | I was hoping to find the article that was about their wedding |
| 21:40 | yep | |
| 21:41 | drab ^ | |
| 21:41 | drab | and on the web they are called patrons, ie there's no "borrowers" screen |
| 21:41 | bag | could one of those robots sign off on ES too? |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | you have come across one of the major arguments in librarydom |
| 21:41 | drojf | could another robot make it work before? |
| 21:41 | drab | lol, ok, I won't go there then :) |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | "what do we call the people who use the library" |
| 21:41 | drab | sounds like "how should we name our servers" |
| 21:41 | drojf | and which dialect of english do we use in koha |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | only more contentious :) |
| 21:42 | drab | heh |
| 21:42 | cait | drab: passwords are stored encrypted |
| 21:42 | * bag | thinks drojf authorites are too authoritive |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | drojf: I'd argue that this problem is well beyond inglish |
| 21:42 | english* (geez) | |
| 21:42 | drab | engrish pls |
| 21:42 | bag | heh |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | the dialect thing is a symptom of the "what do we call the people who use the library" argument |
| 21:43 | bag | just kidding drojf |
| 21:43 | cait | drab: what is the problem they experience? |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | but drab, you are right |
| 21:43 | drojf | true. once we are full ebsco they will be clients |
| 21:43 | bag | drojf++ |
| 21:43 | drab | so for some reason a user in the borrowers table can log into the sco for self checkout, but not in the opac |
| 21:43 | cait | can only patrons not log in or staff too? |
| 21:43 | drab | cait: ^^ |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | drab: are you running any translations? |
| 21:43 | drab | but I thought there's only one user so don't understand why login would succeed in one place and fail in the other |
| 21:43 | drojf | or maybe they are partners, who knows |
| 21:44 | drab | however a newly create used can log into both places just fine |
| 21:44 | * drojf | wants to make another snarky ebsco remark before bed |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | drab: what version did you come from? |
| 21:44 | drab | does the opac check for something else besides usedid/password in the borrowers table? |
| 21:45 | cait | cardnumber an dpassword should work too |
| 21:45 | drojf | bag: did anything happen on the authorities front? i did not spend much time on the bug tracker but i think i would have gotten an email if something had happened |
| 21:45 | no pressure, just asking :P | |
| 21:45 | bag | just rebased |
| 21:45 | nick is back - so I’m asking him to test but he’s busy | |
| 21:45 | tomorrow hopefully tomorrow I can get him to test the auths again | |
| 21:46 | drab | wizzyrea: 3.12 iirc |
| 21:48 | is there a way I can enable debugging somehow to see what's going on when I try to login? | |
| 21:50 | also, a related but slight diff question: I'm trying to help them bulk add a bunch of kids to the borrowers/patrons, can I just write something up that does inserts into the borrowers table? | |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | there's a tool |
| 21:50 | drab | or are there other relationshisp I should be aware of that need to match or stuff won't work? |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | to import patrons |
| 21:50 | tools -> Import patrons | |
| 21:50 | drab | oh, I'll check that out, thanks |
| 21:52 | drojf | i was wondering, what happens if i got password hashes only in an old database and want to import patrons? |
| 21:52 | drab | was about to ask that since that's what I got |
| 21:53 | eythian | hashes should be backwards compatible |
| 21:53 | though you'd have to directly insert them, the importer expects plaintext | |
| 21:54 | drojf | any reason not to have a field for pw hash in the importer? (besides 'nobody did it')? |
| 21:57 | eythian | it's rare to find things that will export with the same parameters that Koha requires, I expect. |
| 21:57 | so, little call for it. | |
| 21:58 | In all the migrations I've done, I never saw one system (IIRC) that didn't have plaintext passwords. | |
| 21:58 | cait | same here |
| 22:01 | eythian | it's slightly terrifying, albeit convenient. |
| 22:01 | drojf | i have seen one with only hashes a while ago |
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| 22:40 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15889: LDAP authentication: Only update mapped attributes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ccb3db940df4a0b41> |
| 23:02 | drojf | good night #koha |
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| 23:26 | pianohacker | rangi: do you have any idea why the strip-empty-params (RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} (.*?)(?:[A-Za-z0-9_-]+)=&(.*) / RewriteRule (.+) $1?%1%2 [N,R,NE]) crept into the apache config? |
| 23:27 | rangi | yeah it was a joshua thing there were other bits to go with it, basically rewrote /search/ to /cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl .. or something like that, it should probably get ripped out I doubt anyone is using it |
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| 23:28 | pianohacker | rangi: cool, that sounds about right. Thanks for confirming |
| 23:43 | drab | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]#Database-related |
| 23:43 | koha-reset-passwd instancename username <--- this is talking about a borrower, right? | |
| 23:45 | rangi | yes |
| 23:46 | drab | thanks |
| 23:57 | wizzyrea | rangi++ koha-preferences is kinda win. |
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