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| 02:49 | wizzyrea | omg I have to turn off youtube now. I might die. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oguvSPdtHQ8 |
| 02:49 | rangi | heh |
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| 05:48 | rania | Hello |
| 05:48 | wahanui | salut, rania |
| 05:48 | rania | j"en ai un problem serious avec cataloguing KOHA |
| 05:49 | quand je fais cataloguing et specialement additem un message d"erreur apparaisse error 500 apres enrigistrer | |
| 05:49 | je dois fermer le browser et log-in encore une fois | |
| 05:50 | en fait ce message apparisse si je met un non latin text dans le champ NOTES | |
| 05:50 | pleaseeeee helpppp | |
| 05:50 | I am oblige to use NOTES | |
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| 06:01 | rania | allo any help |
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| 06:02 | rania_ | anyone can help with error 500 in koha |
| 06:02 | ?? | |
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| 07:40 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:44 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:45 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
| 07:46 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 07:46 | magnuse | dcook++ |
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| 07:55 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:06 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 08:06 | wahanui | hi, alex_a |
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| 08:07 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:24 | magnuse | @wunder tso |
| 08:24 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Mechanicstown, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio is 1.7°C (3:10 AM EST on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:24 | magnuse | @wunder tos |
| 08:24 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Tromso / Langnes, Norway is -4.0°C (9:00 AM CET on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:24 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:24 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:30 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 08:30 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
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| 08:44 | magnuse | Francesca: ooh, nice and summery still? |
| 08:44 | Francesca | yup |
| 08:44 | magnuse | hiya cait and sophie_m |
| 08:45 | Francesca | best summer i've ever had in welly |
| 08:45 | sophie_m | hello magnuse and #koha |
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| 09:13 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 09:15 | liw | drojf, hi |
| 09:17 | drojf, I am afraid I can't commit to giving a Debian packaging tutorial for the time being (my work life being in a bit of turmoil), so I won't be proposing one for Kohacon; I might do one for the gathering in that German city I forget (Hamburg? Berlin? Friedrichshafen?), if I can do that in April | |
| 09:24 | drojf | morning liw. it's in berlin ;) please let me know when work life things are sorted out and we'll see if berlin works for you |
| 09:24 | magnuse | liw: but berlin is in may, not april, i think |
| 09:25 | drojf | true. i thought it was about a decision in april, the hackfest is right before kohacon |
| 09:25 | magnuse | ah, i might have misread liw |
| 09:25 | liw | yeah, decision in April (at the earliest) |
| 09:26 | I am easily misred | |
| 09:26 | magnuse | gotcha |
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| 09:39 | drojf | "We reached a milestone! 100 people have registered already!" (24 feb) |
| 09:39 | that's gonne be a big kohacon | |
| 09:39 | a | |
| 09:42 | magnuse | yay |
| 10:00 | cait | yeah pretty cool :) |
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| 10:09 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
| 10:28 | cait | morning LibraryClaire |
| 10:30 | LibraryClaire | hi cait |
| 10:37 | clrh | hi #koha |
| 10:38 | I am wondering at what time Kyle begin to work | |
| 10:39 | drojf | hi cait and all claires ;) |
| 10:44 | LibraryClaire | hi drojf |
| 10:45 | clrh | (answer to my question: in 3 hours I think) |
| 11:09 | marcelr | clrh: he might be earlier than that |
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| 11:13 | clrh | ok marcelr |
| 11:13 | hi khall | |
| 11:13 | khall | hi! |
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| 11:53 | * cait | waves |
| 11:53 | cait | hopefully not a meeting i missed? |
| 12:11 | oh kyle work... got it | |
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| 13:13 | * druthb | giggles. |
| 13:14 | druthb | A teammate used a new module in a test that I'd not seen before: Acme::Damn. |
| 13:19 | magnuse | why, bless me! |
| 13:22 | druthb | And it's a beautiful thing. If you don't like the damn() routine, you can pass in any alias you want when you use it: use Acme::Damn qw(curse); #or pass_judgement or send_to_hell or unbless or condemn... |
| 13:22 | magnuse | lulz |
| 13:23 | druthb | Now, I'm gonna have to quiz my teammate on why he'd *want* to do this. |
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| 13:34 | tcohen | morning |
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| 13:48 | jcamins | I'm not sure why you would want to unbless a Perl object, but I greatly enjoy the fact that this module exists. |
| 13:49 | druthb | yeah, me too. When my teammate called it, he set it up as "curse". One other instance of it exists in our codebase, and they used "condemn" |
| 13:49 | jcamins | Nor do I see how it works. |
| 13:50 | I see it doing symbol table munging, but not actually cursing the object. | |
| 13:56 | Oh, it's defined in an xs file. | |
| 13:56 | And I still don't get it. | |
| 13:57 | magnuse | here be monsters? |
| 13:57 | druthb | Like much of Perl, yes. |
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| 14:00 | magnuse | it's why i love perl - lots of humour :-) |
| 14:02 | cait | yeah, not taking yourself too seriously is always a good thing :) |
| 14:04 | druthb | I'm still scratching my head as to *why* he'd use this shenanigans. You don't need it to access the data in the object--in this case, a hashref. He's using cmp_deeply on it, but you can do that on a blessed hashref, just fine. |
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| 14:10 | magnuse | druthb: because it's fun? |
| 14:11 | * magnuse | wanders off |
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| 14:46 | drojf | looks like the deadline for kohacon presentations has been changed to 21 march, but it was not announced anywhere? |
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| 14:47 | drojf | now the website says 7th march |
| 14:48 | that's all a little confusing | |
| 14:49 | ah. no. deadline is march 7, confirmation of acceptance for talks is march 21 | |
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| 15:09 | cait | i guess that means: submit more! |
| 15:14 | drojf: thereis a news entry on the page now too | |
| 15:15 | drojf | yes but nothing on the list |
| 15:15 | i'm not going to send another mail now. people send their questions about it directly to me… | |
| 15:15 | cait | let them send it :) |
| 15:16 | i think it just changed, it's probably in the works | |
| 15:16 | drojf | that is what i am hoping for… |
| 15:16 | but i am not sending an email to ask for sending an email either :P | |
| 15:16 | cait | keep calm and remind people about the berlin hackfest instead? :) |
| 15:17 | drojf | nah, don't want to spam. it's not like we have a million of events going on. i think people are aware of it already |
| 15:21 | "This page has been accessed 272 times" | |
| 15:21 | * druthb | didn't know about the berlin hackfest, until *just now*. |
| 15:21 | cait | drojf: hm? |
| 15:21 | druthb: there is ahackfest in berlin! :) | |
| 15:21 | berin hackfest? | |
| 15:22 | berlin hackfest is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lin_Hackfest_2016 | |
| 15:23 | druthb | :) |
| 15:24 | drojf | druthb! |
| 15:24 | how could you not know? | |
| 15:25 | you are probably not on koha-devel anymore? | |
| 15:25 | druthb | correct. |
| 15:25 | drojf | oh no. you miss all the cool insider things! like hackfests :) |
| 15:27 | cait | @later tell andreashm finally reviewed the holds spec document - and i think at least one of our libraries will love the options |
| 15:27 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:28 | drojf | does it include "magazin" stuff? someone asked me about that, but i forgot who it was |
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| 15:38 | cait | drojf: we already have magazin stuff |
| 15:38 | allowonshelfholds = ye | |
| 15:38 | s | |
| 15:38 | :) | |
| 15:40 | drojf | hm true |
| 15:40 | druthb: so you're saying you want to come to berlin? :P | |
| 15:40 | kidclamp | hello all |
| 15:42 | druthb | drojf, if it wasn't *right* after OSCON, I just might, especially if I was also going to KohaCon. But that'd have me gone for basically a whole month, and I don't have *that* much vacation time. :P |
| 15:43 | drojf | damn. you should have way more vacation time! |
| 15:44 | * cait | agrees |
| 15:49 | druthb | :) |
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| 16:05 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 16:05 | * oleonard | grumbles about 3-hour morning meetings |
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| 16:14 | * drojf | hears 3-hour morning meetings grumble about oleonard in the distance |
| 16:15 | pianohacker | (extraordinarily delayed) magnuse! |
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| 16:59 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 17:03 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:08 | drojf | oh we have sponsor tables now at kohacon? :| |
| 17:09 | i liked the "you can put your flyer on that table and that's it" aproach used in edinburgh | |
| 17:09 | not sure what other kohacons did | |
| 17:14 | cait | it's a bit different |
| 17:15 | but i think not unusual | |
| 17:16 | java-- | |
| 17:17 | drojf | not unusual for what? kohacons? or conferences in general? |
| 17:17 | the call for sponsorship for 2013 is gone, the whole website for kohacon 2012 is gone | |
| 17:17 | hard to track it down, but 2012 was very different | |
| 17:18 | also the lowest price is now 10x higher. i think it started at 50€ | |
| 17:20 | cait | yeah that's true, it's missing an option for smaller amounts |
| 17:21 | drojf | i doubt scotlsnd got as much as the lowest option altogether |
| 17:21 | scotland | |
| 17:21 | wahanui | scotland is pretty wicked too |
| 17:21 | cait | hm next irc meeting is the week after next i think? |
| 17:22 | drojf | which one is your birthday? i think its not that :) |
| 17:22 | i did not put it in my calendar. mhpf | |
| 17:24 | cait | wiki? |
| 17:24 | wahanui | wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
| 17:24 | cait | ;) |
| 17:27 | drojf | reno was $75 and $500, no tables |
| 17:29 | edinburgh was gbp 50 and 500 | |
| 17:30 | it would be awesome to have liblime with a few tables in the foyer | |
| 17:35 | or exlibris | |
| 17:39 | oleonard | Yes.... Awesome :| |
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| 18:15 | drojf | i sent them an email asking if they would consider removing the table option. i feel like the ms word paperclip, annoying everyone :P |
| 18:20 | i hope they don't delete my registration now… | |
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| 18:26 | drojf | later #koha |
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| 18:37 | cait | drojf: someone has to be the paper clip |
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| 19:02 | oleonard | If I was clippy I'd pop in with "It looks like you're adding an onclick attribute to a link. Wouldn't you rather use progressive enhancement instead?" |
| 19:03 | pianohacker | hehehe |
| 19:03 | rangi | fwiw kohacon10 was whatever you want, and you got your name in the programme |
| 19:03 | more money didnt get you more stuff | |
| 19:03 | however, it turned out, everyone gave about the same anyway | |
| 19:04 | and morning | |
| 19:04 | basically, the way i feel about Kohacon .. is we should get money from pretty much everyone except the libraries and developers | |
| 19:04 | if at all possible | |
| 19:05 | (cos they already pay, every day, by using or working on Koha) | |
| 19:06 | (we had sponsorship from a licorice factory, stationery warehouse, bars etc) | |
| 19:06 | </rant> | |
| 19:09 | oleonard | Love that licorice/stationery/liquor swag! |
| 19:09 | But I will give away any licorice swag because I hate licorice. | |
| 19:10 | rangi | heh |
| 19:12 | barton | Hey, I ran into an issue that I *know* that I've seen before, and could have sworn there was a bug open for, but I can't find it for the life of me -- it has to do with predictive search on the circ screen for common patron surnames that contain spaces... e.g. one of our libraries is an academic library that has other libraries as patrons, and therefore has a zillion borrowers with the surname 'New York ...' the predictive search gives more r |
| 19:12 | ... does that ring a bell with anyone? | |
| 19:12 | rangi | hmm first thing i do is always turn predictive search off, it's slow and beats the crap out of the server .. so nope havent run into it |
| 19:13 | oleonard | Bug 13822? |
| 19:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13822 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Patron autocomplete search is severly limited |
| 19:13 | oleonard | Bug 14871? |
| 19:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14871 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Cannot search for patrons using second surname/firstname |
| 19:16 | oleonard | I can't tell if the silence on Bug 15883 is a vote of confidence or apathy. |
| 19:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15883 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Upgrade jQuery from v1.7.2 in the staff client |
| 19:17 | rangi | heh, i think most people are happy to go with whatever you decide, I know I am |
| 19:17 | barton | I think it's 14871. |
| 19:17 | * oleonard | becomes drunk with power |
| 19:17 | oleonard | Drunk/er/ I guess |
| 19:18 | rangi | :) |
| 19:19 | * barton | muses that as well as he knows oleonard, he can't remember seeing him drunk. |
| 19:19 | oleonard | barton: We should correct that :P |
| 19:19 | barton | yeah. we really should. |
| 19:20 | ... especially since I'm sure it goes both ways. | |
| 19:24 | oleonard | datatables.inc links to datTables.buttons.min.js and buttons.colVis.min.js, and so does columns_settings.inc... and both are usually included at the same time :( |
| 19:26 | rangi | darn |
| 19:40 | eythian | Hi |
| 19:40 | wahanui | hello, eythian |
| 19:40 | eythian | wahanui: how are you? |
| 19:40 | wahanui | i am probably a strange duck |
| 19:40 | eythian | Sounds good. |
| 19:42 | cait | oleonard++ :) |
| 19:53 | pianohacker | oleonard: the best part of the marseille hackfest year before last was the licorice |
| 19:53 | delicious salmiakki | |
| 19:56 | drojf | rangi: did you have tables/booths at kohacon10? |
| 19:57 | rangi | nope |
| 19:57 | drojf | did we have tha tever? i guess you have been to all kohacons? |
| 19:57 | *that | |
| 19:57 | rangi | kohacon13 kinda did, but they were actually for another library conference, thats the only one i know of |
| 19:59 | oleonard | Bye everyone |
| 19:59 | rangi | i dont mind the idea of booths per se, i just think they wont get anyone going to them |
| 20:00 | drojf | i don't really see how having 5 tables of koha support providers showning koha would help a koha conference. but i wonder who else may have a table |
| 20:01 | i don't go to library conferences often, the fair-like nature of german "librarian day" is weird to me. maybe it's normal to others | |
| 20:02 | rangi | its pretty normal for library conferences |
| 20:02 | drojf | thats why i like kohacon then ;) |
| 20:02 | rangi | everyone ive been to that isnt a kohacon, has a big exhibition hall full of vendors |
| 20:02 | and i just go round collecting pens, and wearing my "Who owns your data?" tshirt | |
| 20:03 | most conferences, the vendor hall is how they afford to run it | |
| 20:04 | personally if some of the proprietary vendors want to pay to have a stand where I will come and ask them loudly when they are releasing their code under a free software license | |
| 20:04 | no worries :) | |
| 20:05 | what would be good if we are going to have tables, is to offer some free ones to say, creative commons greece, and FSF-Europe | |
| 20:05 | drojf | anyway i explicitly said it's my personal opinion that it seems uncommon for kohacon, and i'm not writing not on behalf of "the koha community" (turns out by sending a few list emails about kohacon made me look like some kind of kohacon official to others. *giggles*) |
| 20:06 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:06 | drojf | there is a "not" too much |
| 20:07 | i got en email from turkey asking about confirmation for their presentation proposal too ;) | |
| 20:07 | *an | |
| 20:07 | rangi | heh |
| 20:07 | drojf | you can ask them about their code then :P |
| 20:08 | rangi | they are well within their rights, it's only if they start distributing without the source .. or trying to pretend they are Koha (like some other clowns we know) that it is an issue. However I will be encouraging them to upstream |
| 20:08 | for their own good as much as anything else | |
| 20:12 | oh great | |
| 20:12 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2[…]_bug_fix_headsup/ | |
| 20:13 | gmcharlt | eh, I had no plans that day |
| 20:13 | <--- liar | |
| 20:13 | liw | rangi, you LCA presentation about community seems to have been remarkably awesome |
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| 20:13 | rangi | the write up makes it sound much more awesome than it actually was |
| 20:14 | ibeardslee | he is |
| 20:14 | eythian | rangi: and this is why I made everything automatic 🙂 |
| 20:14 | cait | i am sure he was awesome |
| 20:14 | who is with me? :) | |
| 20:15 | rangi | eythian: yup :) |
| 20:15 | liw | rangi, I am suspecting you of being named Blaise |
| 20:18 | * rangi | has to go to a creative commons advisory meeting .. bbl |
| 20:19 | eythian | So, on Sunday I'm going to the Anne Frank huis, currently reading the diary. It annoys me a bit how the edit deliberately foreshadows. |
| 20:23 | * liw | looks at eythian and radiates a "eythian should give a Debian packaging tutorial at kohacon" wave into the aether |
| 20:23 | cait | :) |
| 20:24 | eythian | liw: I'm getting out of practice. |
| 20:24 | Though, I probably could. | |
| 20:25 | I just wrote it all in a wiki page instead. | |
| 20:25 | liw | eythian, I taught you, you should teach the next generation :) |
| 20:25 | cait | sounds like there is a responsibility there :) |
| 20:26 | eythian | I taught many people 😉 |
| 20:26 | liw | joking aside, I'd love to do a tutorial, but since I am unsure if I can, I hope someone else can |
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