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| 00:15 | dcook | Interesting... |
| 00:15 | wahanui | somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 00:15 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 00:16 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on February 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:16 | wizzyrea | ^ that's the most perfect weather ever. |
| 00:16 | dcook | So DateTime::Format::MySQL requires DateTime 1 but DateTime 1 is only in Jessie? |
| 00:16 | Did the Koha community package that.. | |
| 00:16 | wizzyrea | they're making you make it work on squeeze aren't they |
| 00:16 | nopetopus | |
| 00:16 | wahanui | http://reactiongif.org/wp-cont[…]-run-away-GIF.gif |
| 00:16 | wizzyrea | this way lies madness |
| 00:17 | dcook | I'm seeing how far I can get, so that I can tell them why it's not going to work |
| 00:17 | wizzyrea | "it's not supported" is the only answer they need |
| 00:17 | dcook | We don't all have that option :p |
| 00:17 | wizzyrea | of course you do! |
| 00:18 | it's not supported, full stop. | |
| 00:18 | dcook | Yeah, I suppose |
| 00:18 | I suppose all our non-Debian systems are much more modern which is why they do work | |
| 00:18 | I was thinking about that this morning though.. | |
| 00:18 | wizzyrea | you do have to upgrade them |
| 00:18 | for them to be modern. | |
| 00:18 | dcook | How many people in Squeeze will have auto-upgrades that break their system? |
| 00:19 | wizzyrea | squeeze isn't supported anymore that I know of |
| 00:19 | dcook | It's sort of LTS for Debian |
| 00:19 | Because so many people were/are using it | |
| 00:19 | wizzyrea | "sort of" isn't good enough for a production system |
| 00:19 | dcook | Tell that to most of the world :p |
| 00:19 | I totally agree though | |
| 00:19 | Totally not good enough | |
| 00:19 | wizzyrea | These same people are probably still running windows XP |
| 00:20 | it's not supported either | |
| 00:20 | dcook | Almost without a doubt |
| 00:20 | That one is extra scary I think | |
| 00:20 | I'm not even going to go into all the Windows XP systems I see in the wild which are could end so badly.. | |
| 00:20 | I'm still curious as to how DateTime::Format::MySQL could be functional on Debian Wheezy though | |
| 00:21 | Wth.. | |
| 00:21 | So this is a wheezy system I have: | |
| 00:21 | DateTime 0.75 0.58 Yes | |
| 00:21 | DateTime::Event::ICal 0.10 0.08 Yes | |
| 00:21 | DateTime::Format::ICal 0.09 0.09 Yes | |
| 00:21 | DateTime::Format::MySQL 0.04 0.04 Yes | |
| 00:21 | DateTime::Set 0.31 0.28 Yes | |
| 00:21 | DateTime::TimeZone 1.58 1.20 Yes | |
| 00:21 | Heres's the error on Squeeze: | |
| 00:22 | DateTime version 1 required--this is only version 0.61 at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/DateTime/Format/Strptime.pm line 8. | |
| 00:22 | DateTime version 1 required--this is only version 0.61 at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/DateTime/Format/Builder.pm line 11. | |
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| 01:18 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 02:47 | wizzyrea | hm, what do you all think about options for the cronjobs to quiet any non-function-related messages from the cronjobs |
| 02:47 | I'm thinking of advanced notices, for example | |
| 02:47 | "you do not have the enhanced messaging preference turned on" | |
| 02:47 | what if you are a library who doesn't have that on, will never have that on | |
| 02:47 | of course you can disable the job entirely | |
| 02:47 | that's easy enough | |
| 02:47 | but | |
| 02:48 | what if then someday someone turns it on on a whim, and wonders why it's not working? | |
| 02:48 | they have to hassle the sysadmin, who was annoyed by the messages | |
| 02:48 | and so turned off the job. | |
| 02:49 | I think we should just be able to quiet messages like that | |
| 02:49 | i.e. 'yes, I heard you, now be quiet." | |
| 02:50 | ibeardslee | call it the "Yes Dear" module? |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 03:06 | sure | |
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| 04:14 | mtompset | "Yes Dear" +1 |
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| 04:46 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 05:02 | mtompset | Greetings, d - Oh. Missed him. :( |
| 05:03 | Have a great day (24 hour period), wizzyrea ibeardslee dac bshum kmlussier #koha | |
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| 07:17 | drojf | morning again ;) |
| 07:27 | cait | morning #koha |
| 07:27 | bbiab | |
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| 07:48 | lds | hello |
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| 07:56 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:56 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
| 07:56 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:56 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
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| 08:12 | * magnuse | forgot to wave earlier, waves now |
| 08:12 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 08:13 | look what i found | |
| 08:13 | Wellington - Melbourne - London - Thessaloniki; 27 May 17:00 --> 29 may 13:20 [53:20h]; 1700€ | |
| 08:13 | Wellington - Brisbane - Abu Dhabi - Berlin; 23 May 15:00 --> 24 May 13:40 [32:40h]; 755€ | |
| 08:14 | it looks like coming from NZ to greece and not going to berlin would be a really bad idea :P | |
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| 08:15 | drojf | (cheapest connections i found. you can easily pay >7000€ from wellington to thessaloniki, wtf) |
| 08:17 | seems to be cheaper from US too, but only a little | |
| 08:18 | Joubu | o/ |
| 08:18 | drojf | morning Joubu |
| 08:18 | Joubu | morning drojf |
| 08:20 | drojf | but from australia it's kind of the same going to berlin or directly to thessaloniki. flight prices are weird |
| 08:21 | cait joined #koha | |
| 08:30 | magnuse | yeah, booking flights is weird |
| 08:33 | cait | drojf: you shoudl send that to the nzers :) |
| 08:35 | drojf | i feel like a spammer already. but maybe i will :D |
| 08:35 | hi cait | |
| 08:36 | from the wiki (Koha_Conference_Bidding): "Rule the First: New Zealand ought hold right of first refusal for Conferences falling during Anniversary years (10th, 15th, 25th, et cetera). " | |
| 08:36 | looks like we missed that. but nz should do another kohacon | |
| 08:36 | so i can go there too | |
| 08:36 | :P | |
| 08:37 | now that i know it's ~750€ to get there from here. that i way less than i expected | |
| 08:38 | *is | |
| 08:38 | cait | ah... and sonish too |
| 08:38 | 2020 i guess :) | |
| 08:38 | drojf | noo too late |
| 08:39 | cait | ? |
| 08:39 | drojf | 2020. thats ages away |
| 08:39 | cait | you will see, time flies :) |
| 08:41 | magnuse | nz in 2020 would be awesome |
| 08:42 | drojf | 2017 will be the 10th kohacon. that would deserve a special nz event too ;) |
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| 08:53 | * cait | tries to find out how breaking of callnumbers on the labels work |
| 08:53 | cait | are they using the rules from the classsortrules/classification source? |
| 08:54 | drojf | i still avoid all printing stuff in koha. but i'm afraid i will need it soon |
| 08:54 | cait | ... have a library asking... so too late for me to hide :) |
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| 08:59 | drojf | yeah i had several that are interested in it. don't want to start looking into it before they decide on getting support :P |
| 09:04 | Joubu | drojf: It's not as scary as it looks ;) |
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| 09:06 | cait | Joubu: so how do callnumbers get broken on multiple lines? heh |
| 09:06 | * cait | tries to scare Joubu |
| 09:06 | cait | ... but he has seen it all... probably not posible |
| 09:07 | Joubu | I have no idea! :) |
| 09:07 | Is there a bug report opened? | |
| 09:07 | cait | hm another question... non-sorting characters... does koha hate /like them? |
| 09:07 | Joubu: i just have a library asking how it works - but the question how to change it is probably next :) | |
| 09:07 | https://www.loc.gov/marc/nonsorting.html | |
| 09:09 | LibraryClaire | hello |
| 09:09 | wahanui | hola, LibraryClaire |
| 09:09 | cait | hi LibraryClaire |
| 09:09 | Joubu | cait: I'd say, it depends. We have a sub somewhere to handle (remove) them on display |
| 09:10 | C4::Charset::nsb_clean() | |
| 09:10 | hum, it does not seem to be widely used | |
| 09:11 | cait | *sighs* |
| 09:11 | what woudl you recommend? get rid of them in the data? | |
| 09:12 | Joubu | where are they? |
| 09:12 | wahanui | they are quite expensive at the moment. i should check that with electricity prices :) |
| 09:12 | cait | in ...title fields |
| 09:12 | mostly | |
| 09:12 | 240,245,246... | |
| 09:13 | Joubu | I think they are correctly taken into account by zebra |
| 09:13 | cait | maybe we just need to try and see |
| 09:14 | unimarc might be different than marc21 | |
| 09:14 | Joubu | and we have a method to handle them from a DT table, but not widely used neither |
| 09:14 | cait | i think in marc21 usually it's coded into the indicators |
| 09:14 | not as a character.. although the options seems to exist too | |
| 09:14 | seems non-sorting characters in marc21 exist since 2013? | |
| 09:17 | drojf | is that the same as non-filing characters, or i that something else? it appears to be what i thought non-filing characters are, but maybe i have misunderstood that all my life ;) |
| 09:18 | cait | non-filing i think is the same |
| 09:18 | drojf | ah yes it is nonfiling in marc21 specs |
| 09:19 | AFAIK zebra takes care of that (as Joubu said), but we redundantly have ignored articles in the zebra config | |
| 09:23 | eg in /etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/fr/sort-string-utf.chr | |
| 09:24 | oh it's in the english file too, just did not see it | |
| 09:25 | cait | more worried about display |
| 09:25 | and export | |
| 09:27 | drojf | what exactly are you worried about? |
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| 09:32 | cait | strange characters showing up in zotero and the like |
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| 09:37 | rainman | Evening all, does anyone have the time and expertise to help me resolve an issue with importing biblios and items from Excel? |
| 09:38 | drojf | cait: oh now i get it. you don't mean indicating the number of letters but actual signs. sorry, i misunderstood |
| 09:39 | i would try to get rid of them if possible | |
| 09:48 | cait | yeah... tending that way too |
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| 09:58 | cait | no easy questions today it seems :) |
| 09:59 | rainman: probably not in detail - I have no experience importing from excel - but usually marcedit is one of the tools recommended to do that | |
| 09:59 | drojf | anyone else getting "SyntaxError: JSON.parse: expected property name or '}' at line 1 column 3 of the JSON data" in master? (in firebug) |
| 10:01 | rainman | Thanks. I've got the general idea, and am using marcedit. Have figured out how to join fields so I don't get duplicate items, and it seems like my ibiblios and items are being created 1:1. Only issue is the location and barcode etc are not being picked up on the item edit screen, which somewhat hampers circulation... |
| 10:01 | cait | drojf: which page? |
| 10:01 | wahanui | somebody said which page was wrong? |
| 10:02 | cait | hm and have no master... only 3.20.2 |
| 10:02 | drojf | cait: staff client, every page |
| 10:02 | cait | hm could it be the audio alerts bug? |
| 10:02 | drojf | giving me the file name of the one i just open but a line number that is larger than the file. some include-stuff maybe? |
| 10:03 | ha | |
| 10:03 | with audio alerts diabled its gone | |
| 10:03 | cait++ | |
| 10:04 | cait | :) |
| 10:05 | rainman | I take it all back, it seems the last batch I tried has imported with all of the data (maybe, still checking) right. Must be your godly presences. |
| 10:06 | cait | hm location codes are case sensitive, so that could be a common problem |
| 10:06 | but barcodes seems a bit strange... | |
| 10:06 | also you need to have one 952 per item with all the subfields that belong to that | |
| 10:06 | item | |
| 10:08 | rainman | I've got a p, c, and O subfield on the 952, and the location tags I've used are case-consistent. |
| 10:09 | cait | ah, small o? |
| 10:09 | also include a b | |
| 10:09 | a and b should both be set to the same branchcode probably | |
| 10:09 | hm and you probably want to include a y - itemtype | |
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| 10:11 | rainman | Oops yes, small o. Thanks, I'll bung in the others as you suggest. I seem to have a zebraidx issue with duplpicates from a previous run. May just start afresh and delete everything/init the index, and see how I get on with the other fields as well. |
| 10:13 | One (semi-related) quick question: where I have an ISBN13 and and ISBN10, joining the fields in marcedit seems to just concat the ISBNs together rather than show them as separate things. I can rig up the spreadsheet to pick the 13 if I have it, and the 10 if not, but is there a better way that will retain both? | |
| 10:16 | drojf | rainman: field 020 is repeatable, you could have one for 10 and one for 13 |
| 10:16 | i don't know marcedit though | |
| 10:17 | rainman | Me neither mate :) |
| 10:18 | I'm heavily in "wing it mode". The scary bit is this is starting too make a teeny amount of sense... | |
| 10:19 | cait | heh |
| 10:20 | i think instead of concatenating i woudl just add them in separate 020 entries - valid and easy i guess | |
| 10:21 | rainman | I've tried to mark the field as repeatable, looks better in the mrk file. I'll just import these and see how we go. Stand by...:) |
| 10:26 | Woohoo! Success. Thanks so much for your help. You are scholars and gentlepersons, and have had a hand in getting a school library system sorted... | |
| 10:28 | cait | :) |
| 10:35 | hm no oleonard | |
| 10:36 | I have a bug filing day... and sometimes you really wonder why things haven't been noticed before - bug 15782 - paging only moves you by one comment entry, not by a page... | |
| 10:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15782 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Paging on comments moderation broken |
| 10:37 | drojf | what is the translate.k-c.org component in the bugtracker for? it's not really for translation issues, is it? (looking at bug 15744) |
| 10:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15744 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , GlobalSys: UsageStatsLibraryType German Text 2x "Firmenbibliothek" |
| 10:39 | cait | i think for things like adding new languages maybe? |
| 10:39 | seldomly used | |
| 10:39 | are you fixing that right now? | |
| 10:40 | drojf | i will close the bug and have a look |
| 10:43 | don't find it in pootle | |
| 10:43 | cait | hm maybe only in one version |
| 10:43 | did you check the pref file directly? | |
| 10:46 | drojf | an no it's just the bad user interface |
| 10:46 | what do we call it? Regierungsbibliothek sounds odd | |
| 10:47 | cait | hm what is it - government something? |
| 10:47 | oh | |
| 10:47 | behördenbibliothek | |
| 10:47 | drojf | but we also have regierungsagentur |
| 10:47 | i would prefer that | |
| 10:47 | in a lot of places | |
| 10:47 | cait | hm? |
| 10:47 | drojf | behörden-. we have regierungs- in other places |
| 10:48 | cait | hm it hink when it's in marc i copied it over |
| 10:48 | from the translation | |
| 10:48 | drojf | but i am not looking into that now. so i'll make it behördenbibliothek? |
| 10:48 | cait | for other places i am not sure |
| 10:48 | if you agree :) | |
| 10:48 | drojf | much better than the other and i don't have an alternative. so yes :) |
| 10:49 | changed in 3.20 and 3.22 | |
| 10:50 | cait | thx! |
| 10:50 | * cait | dives into bug 2500 |
| 10:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2500 enhancement, P3, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , Standing enhancement request for adding/updating call number splitting algorithms in C4/Labels.pm |
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| 11:11 | * drojf | leaves for lunch |
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| 12:32 | * cait | waves |
| 12:35 | * magnuse | waves too |
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| 12:46 | Joubu | outch |
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| 12:49 | cait | hey Joubu - ouch ? |
| 12:50 | Joubu | ho yeah, a *%£# outch |
| 12:50 | I have a very bad news about bug 13618, but I will investigate a bit to know how bad it is... | |
| 12:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC |
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| 12:50 | cait | :( |
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| 12:58 | kivilahtio | jajm: I supplied a new version of the example structure and a better validating Swagger minifier |
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| 13:05 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:13 | cait | morning tcohen |
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| 13:22 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:24 | cait | hi oleonard .) |
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| 14:08 | Joubu | bag, khall: please do not push anything today, we may have to revert 13618 |
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| 14:08 | khall | Joubu: I'll pass that on to bag |
| 14:09 | Joubu: what's the problem? | |
| 14:09 | wahanui | https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg |
| 14:10 | Joubu | khall: the perf are terrible :-( |
| 14:10 | khall | ack! |
| 14:11 | Joubu: do you know where the bottleneck is? | |
| 14:11 | wahanui | i guess the bottleneck is worse at QA, thanks to the reduced number of QAers, but only barely. |
| 14:13 | Joubu | For each TT var displayed in the template, there is a call to Template::Stash::AutoEscaping->get |
| 14:13 | it's quite quick, but on some page we have 60k (!!!) vars displayed | |
| 14:14 | drojf | 60k? |
| 14:14 | Joubu | after a quick test done on the mainpage, I have displayed 10k var and the load of the page is 10s instead of 2s without the patchset |
| 14:15 | drojf: 60.000? | |
| 14:15 | khall | I'm guessing only a fraction of those vars are actually displayed |
| 14:15 | drojf | yes, i understood. i was just surprised by the number |
| 14:15 | khall | I wonder if there is a way to only trigger the auto escape when the var is actually used |
| 14:16 | Joubu | yes, me too. I am trying to get some benchmarks to share |
| 14:24 | tcohen | any Koha<->ES guru? |
| 14:26 | is there any authentication layer being planned on the ES integration? I guess for multi-site deploys, we should be careful about it if we are running a single ES for all | |
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| 14:43 | tcohen | @later tell kidclamp ping me when u r online |
| 14:43 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:51 | Joubu | tcohen: there is not auth layer atm |
| 14:52 | tcohen: there is no auth layer atm | |
| 14:52 | you can limit the access to the index to an ip range (I guess) | |
| 14:52 | But if it's on the same machine, it won't work | |
| 14:53 | tcohen | i think instance name would be enough to separate namespaces between index domains, at least |
| 14:53 | Joubu: would ES 2.2 work? or do we need to stick to 1.x for now? | |
| 14:53 | I ask because I'm adding a task on kohadevbox playbook | |
| 14:53 | to install ES | |
| 14:55 | Joubu | I have not tested with v2 |
| 14:55 | I am using 1.4.2 | |
| 15:07 | tcohen | Joubu: what is the lifecycle of ES? |
| 15:07 | Joubu | tcohen: no idea |
| 15:09 | tcohen | awesome :-D |
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| 15:25 | drojf | tcohen: i can't find that information. but from the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasticsearch it has been rather short for older versions |
| 15:27 | kidclamp | tcohen ping |
| 15:27 | tcohen | you mentioned you managed to run the ES branch on kohadevbox? |
| 15:27 | kidclamp | indeed |
| 15:27 | tcohen | which ES version? |
| 15:27 | kidclamp | erm, one sec |
| 15:30 | 1.4.2 | |
| 15:30 | tcohen^ | |
| 15:31 | tcohen | thanks kidclamp |
| 15:31 | I'm pushing a patch that installs ES on kohadevbox | |
| 15:31 | kidclamp | awesome! |
| 15:31 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, kidclamp |
| 15:31 | kidclamp | worth it |
| 15:32 | tcohen | if you remember any difficult step you made |
| 15:32 | let me know so we automate it | |
| 15:32 | kidclamp | hm..just remember to install java :-) |
| 15:32 | everything went smooth | |
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| 15:32 | kidclamp | I think I did have to restart, but it may not be necessary |
| 15:33 | tcohen | http://snag.gy/V00yi.jpg |
| 15:34 | kidclamp: ^^ | |
| 15:35 | kidclamp | tcohen++ |
| 15:35 | Joubu | tcohen: you need java + elasticsearch entry in koha_conf + rebuild |
| 15:35 | tcohen | Joubu: and the deps |
| 15:35 | perl deps | |
| 15:35 | Joubu | yep |
| 15:35 | tcohen | http://debian.koha-community.o[…]koha/otherthings/ |
| 15:35 | which? | |
| 15:35 | wahanui | which is a different bucket of crazy |
| 15:36 | tcohen | there's .debs and a tar.gz with .debs inside |
| 15:36 | all of them? | |
| 15:36 | Joubu | should be |
| 15:37 | tcohen | I will install all of them with cpanm, |
| 15:37 | no point dealing with un-tarring anything :-P | |
| 15:39 | on #elasticsearch someone answered he would stick with 1.x | |
| 15:39 | but the current one on the repo is 1.7.5 | |
| 15:39 | not 1.4.2 | |
| 15:42 | later #koha | |
| 15:42 | slowly getting back :-D | |
| 15:42 | kidclamp | bye tcohen |
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| 16:02 | oleonard | Is it possible to modify a search to exclude a specific item type? |
| 16:02 | For instance, a search limited to itype:DNLD -- search.pl?idx=kw&q=blue&limit=itype:DNLD | |
| 16:02 | Can I negate that itype instead? | |
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| 16:07 | kidclamp | not that I know of |
| 16:10 | cait | hm maybe if you don't use limit... but not totally suer |
| 16:10 | e | |
| 16:11 | using the 'expert search' somethe=true not itype...? | |
| 16:14 | oleonard: ?idx=kw&q=der&op=not&idx=itype&q=NORMAL&op=and&do=Search (keyword = der not itype = NORMAL | |
| 16:16 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:18 | oleonard | That looks like it works cait, thanks! |
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| 16:22 | oleonard | Thanks for chiming in on the Grunt/Gulp discussion pianohacker. The sound of crickets was starting to get to me. |
| 16:25 | pianohacker | heh. It's something I've wanted for a while |
| 16:31 | oleonard | pianohacker: Do you have an opinion about which, or a third option? |
| 16:32 | pianohacker | gulp seems a bit more straightforward, but the packaging issue is a killer. |
| 16:32 | I'd probably go with Jake; I really like broccoli myself, but it's a bit too out there for koha | |
| 16:33 | oleonard | ...unless we continue to keep compiled files in git, which we currently do for the OPAC |
| 16:34 | pianohacker | :/ that simplifies front-end development but is a little unpleasant from a repo cleanliness perspective |
| 16:36 | bag | morning |
| 16:36 | pianohacker | an initial build could be integrated into kohadevbox / Makefile.PL / however the cool kids work on Koha these days |
| 16:36 | there could even be a git hook that rebuilt the files | |
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| 16:52 | Joubu | Actually it does not help developers, there are several methods to generate the compiled file and it is always in conflict |
| 16:56 | oleonard | Joubu: Could you explain what you mean? |
| 16:56 | Joubu | oleonard: I was trying to remember where I had this discussion, but can't |
| 16:57 | oleonard: on the wiki page, there are different ways to regenerate the compiled files | |
| 16:57 | depending on the methods (actually the version), the compiled file won't be the same | |
| 16:57 | it's confusing, especially when QAing, because you never know if the patch is ok or not | |
| 16:58 | oleonard: does it make any sense? | |
| 16:58 | oleonard | Joubu: Using a tool like I propose would at least get rid of the varying methods. |
| 16:58 | Joubu | yes, I was not disagreeing with that :) |
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| 17:06 | bigbrovar | Hi guys. I am trying to setup koha in an environment with with no working dns server. (tried setting up one with bind, powerdns and dnsmasq but no show with jessie) I resolved to install and allow it to be accessed via ip (for now) than wait for a working dns server. anyone knows how I can do this? |
| 17:06 | I would like something like 192.168.0.1:8181 for opac and 92.168.0.1:8181 staff client | |
| 17:09 | drojf | bigbrovar: change the apache config like you would for any other website. you can't use the same port for both though |
| 17:09 | wahanui | drojf: that doesn't look right |
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| 17:10 | bigbrovar | drojf: Thanks that is exactly what I intend to do. I guess I might have to also make some changes to the koha config |
| 17:11 | wahanui: you don't think that would work? | |
| 17:11 | wahanui | i don't know, bigbrovar |
| 17:12 | drojf | i don't think so. but i have been working for 10 hours, so don't trust me :P |
| 17:12 | * drojf | heads home |
| 17:16 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 17:16 | @later tell drojf ja | |
| 17:16 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:16 | kidclamp | wahanui is a bot bigbrovar |
| 17:18 | oleonard | My checkout page in master is really broken. "null undefined undefined undefined undefined" in the list of checkouts. |
| 17:18 | anyone else having problems with it? | |
| 17:19 | Joubu | oleonard: looks ok for me on circ and moremember |
| 17:20 | kidclamp | me too oleonard |
| 17:21 | anyone else get a 500 error for checking in a barcode that doesn't exist though? | |
| 17:21 | oleonard | kidclamp: Yes there is a bug for that |
| 17:21 | kidclamp | ah, missed that one, thanks |
| 17:22 | Joubu | bug 15730 |
| 17:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15730 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , 500 error on returns.pl if barcode doesn't exist |
| 17:22 | kidclamp | thanks |
| 17:24 | oleonard | Screenshot: http://zivotdesign.com/p/uploa[…]e5e7493f1451b.png |
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| 17:25 | bora | hi |
| 17:26 | anyone can help | |
| 17:26 | I want to configure send email alert for overdue | |
| 17:26 | but don't know how | |
| 17:26 | help pls ? | |
| 17:28 | Joubu | Hi bora |
| 17:28 | Did you read the doc? | |
| 17:28 | http://translate.koha-communit[…]p/#noticetriggers | |
| 17:29 | bora | so long |
| 17:30 | Joubu | oleonard: does it work on 3.22? |
| 17:30 | bora | and I can't find configure |
| 17:30 | Joubu | 3.1.5 is 20 lines long |
| 17:30 | bora | ok |
| 17:31 | those is an option fo | |
| 17:32 | it's would not work cos my server didn't install mail server yet | |
| 17:33 | I am looking for how to setup mail server for koha send overdue | |
| 17:42 | Joubu | bora: you can configure sendmail or postfix, using one of the numerous tuto on the Internet. |
| 17:43 | bora | can u direct me to postfix for koha |
| 17:44 | Joubu | bora: how did you install Koha? Which version are you using? |
| 17:45 | bora | 3.22 |
| 17:45 | cait | hm what's the title? maybe something with "' or similar? |
| 17:45 | oh, was just looking at oleonard's screenshot | |
| 17:45 | Joubu | bora: how did you install it? |
| 17:46 | oleonard | cait: I think I may have some bad data. I'm looking further. |
| 17:46 | bora | package install |
| 17:46 | wahanui | package install is probably easy, if you do it on a supported os |
| 17:46 | Joubu | bora: following a tuto? a wiki page? |
| 17:47 | bora | with Debian os |
| 17:47 | Joubu | bora: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
| 17:47 | so this wiki page | |
| 17:47 | cait | bye all - bbl |
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| 17:48 | bora | do its work |
| 17:49 | cos we didn't install send mail or postfix yet | |
| 17:51 | oleonard | Never mind about my checkouts problem, it was bad data. |
| 18:01 | Joubu | see you #koh |
| 18:01 | a | |
| 18:02 | bag | later Joubu |
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| 19:17 | oleonard | khall around? |
| 19:32 | Can you search by frameworkcode? | |
| 19:35 | Hm... Koha will warn you before you delete a frameworkcode which is in use but won't stop you. And it leaves the frameworkcode in existing biblios. That doesn't seem right. | |
| 19:36 | For comparison: Koha stops you altogether from deleting an item type which is in use. | |
| 19:36 | Should there be a difference? | |
| 19:36 | eythian | Most correct should win out. |
| 19:37 | And I think leaving things inconsistent is far from correct. | |
| 19:39 | nengard | oleonard he's on a call right now |
| 19:39 | oleonard | Thanks nengard |
| 19:39 | nengard | :) |
| 19:43 | drojf | it's on. https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_is_arriving_when |
| 19:45 | that is probably the most postprivacyish thing i have ever done | |
| 19:46 | * oleonard | burgles drojf 's house while he's gone |
| 19:47 | drojf | i will have all valuable stuff with me. please leave something nice ;) |
| 19:48 | @later tell cait i have no idea what that "ja" was about :) | |
| 19:48 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:48 | * oleonard | pictures drojf at the conference wearing lavish jewelry |
| 19:49 | drojf | lol |
| 19:51 | but now i am scared and have to delete the page. or use a nickname that you have to google first | |
| 19:51 | or get a pet lion | |
| 19:53 | i accidentally discovered there is another drojf and he is doing some kind of dev work | |
| 19:54 | oleonard | Oh no your brand is being diluted |
| 19:54 | drojf | that will be very funny when they break into his house while i am in greece |
| 19:55 | he got the drojf twitter and openhub accounts | |
| 19:56 | oleonard | It will not be funny when the other drojf gets the Nobel Prize for software development. |
| 19:56 | drojf | heh that chance is rather small |
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| 20:01 | oleonard | "If you delete this fund, all orders linked to this fund will be deleted!" Or maybe tell me if there are any orders linked to this fund? |
| 20:01 | We are inconsistent. | |
| 20:02 | drojf | there you have it. changed the page to my nickname and added a pet lion and alligators to my profile |
| 20:04 | oleonard | Security by absurdity. |
| 20:04 | drojf | exactly |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | that conversation, well done. |
| 20:13 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
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| 20:14 | wizzyrea | hello! |
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| 20:20 | drojf | hi wizzyrea |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | hi drojf |
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| 20:42 | oleonard | So anyway, bye. |
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| 21:09 | * cait | waves |
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| 21:17 | wizzyrea | hi cait |
| 21:20 | drojf | hi cait. what was the @later about? |
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| 21:51 | cait | your question about allegro :) |
| 21:53 | drojf | aaah. ok. did you see the marcxml output? it's ridiculously broken |
| 21:53 | cait | hm we didn't use that |
| 21:53 | drojf | good choice |
| 21:54 | the 900 fields become 090 and half of them is lost, 650 gets 600 and probably more | |
| 21:54 | really weird | |
| 21:54 | cait | ? |
| 21:54 | drojf | i asked a library for marcxml. they send me some samples and said they are incomplete, so they also send .mrc |
| 21:55 | and they differ in the way i just said. fields are mixed up, lost etc | |
| 21:56 | cait | don't use the marcxml? :) |
| 21:56 | drojf | now that i know that… i won't. but who would expect that? |
| 21:56 | i used it for somebody else (just in a test installation) | |
| 21:57 | cait | i think the installations might differ to - they can configure quite a lot |
| 22:04 | drojf | good night #koha |
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| 22:13 | cait | back |
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| 22:56 | mtompset | Greetings and apologies, #koha. :( |
| 22:56 | pianohacker | ? |
| 22:57 | mtompset | pianohacker: I had an inappropriate outburst of frustration over attempting to configure and get the KOCT working. |
| 22:57 | I still don't have it working fully. | |
| 22:57 | I would like to try to figure out why. | |
| 22:58 | KOCT is Koha Offline Circulation Tool | |
| 22:58 | Have you ever used it, pianohacker? | |
| 22:58 | pianohacker | mtompset: is this the executable, plugin, or in-browser version? |
| 22:59 | mtompset | there's a 3rd version?! |
| 23:00 | I just thought there was a desktop version (the windoze exe) | |
| 23:00 | and the firefox plugin. | |
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| 23:06 | wizzyrea | joubu about? |
| 23:08 | cait | wizzyrea: it's after midnight :) |
| 23:08 | pianohacker: are you up to taking a look at a sec problem? | |
| 23:08 | wizzyrea | well sometimes people keep weird hours! |
| 23:08 | * wizzyrea | looks meaningfully at cait |
| 23:08 | * cait | is working on homework! |
| 23:08 | cait | but about to upload it |
| 23:09 | mtompset: there is also an html5 version in koha | |
| 23:09 | pianohacker | cait: bug 15670? |
| 23:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15670 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Rename "Cancel" to "Cancel hold" when checking in a waiting item |
| 23:09 | cait | yep that one |
| 23:09 | wahanui | yep that one is pretty cool actually |
| 23:09 | cait | it needs to be fixed urgently |
| 23:09 | mtompset | in koha? |
| 23:09 | cait | no not cool wahanui |
| 23:09 | wizzyrea | 15760 |
| 23:09 | cait | mtompset: it's html5 based |
| 23:09 | pianohacker | cait: yeah, wiz asked me about me |
| 23:10 | cait | and you said yes? :) |
| 23:10 | mtompset | how do I get to it? |
| 23:10 | wizzyrea | you don't |
| 23:10 | pianohacker | cait: As the person who originally wrote it, I agree that the wording is confusing |
| 23:10 | mtompset | okay, so it's just an API. |
| 23:10 | cait | ? |
| 23:10 | wizzyrea | pianohacker: I don't think we are talking about the same thing |
| 23:10 | cait | nope |
| 23:11 | pianohacker | but I can't fix it right now. Way too many things ahead of it |
| 23:11 | ? | |
| 23:11 | bug 14464? | |
| 23:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14464 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Add ability to cancel waiting holds from checkin screen |
| 23:11 | wizzyrea | 15760 |
| 23:11 | pianohacker | oh |
| 23:11 | oh | |
| 23:11 | cait | a security issue, not a rename of a link - i can do that sometime :) |
| 23:11 | pianohacker | bug 15760 |
| 23:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15760 is not accessible. |
| 23:11 | wizzyrea | can you see that? |
| 23:11 | pianohacker | oh, wow, okay |
| 23:11 | nope. | |
| 23:12 | cait | sec |
| 23:12 | wizzyrea | what email do you use for bugzilla? |
| 23:12 | pianohacker | jweaverbywatersolutions.com |
| 23:12 | wizzyrea | check your mail |
| 23:12 | :) | |
| 23:13 | pianohacker | oh god. |
| 23:14 | wizzyrea | yeah. |
| 23:14 | you have a minute for that? | |
| 23:14 | or 120 | |
| 23:14 | pianohacker | I need to lie down for a bit first, this has been too long of a day |
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| 23:18 | * mtompset | is still confused. |
| 23:20 | cait | the koct chapter in the manual was what i used for testing the plugin |
| 23:20 | i wrote a doc for our libraries not long ago, no problems with Firefox ESR that we use at work | |
| 23:21 | going to sleep now :) bye all | |
| 23:21 | wizzyrea | sleep well |
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| 23:21 | mtompset | Manual... DUH! I should have tried to look for that. But I figured KOCT would not be documented in a Koha manual. |
| 23:24 | * mtompset | goes off to see if the manual clarifies this for him. |
| 23:25 | wizzyrea | it's part of Koha now. The addon itself isn't in Koha but the other bits are |
| 23:32 | bag | One of my favorite newish fundraising things Everylibrary https://votelibraries.nationbu[…]watermatching2016 |
| 23:33 | we’ve helped raise another $1005 today with matches :) | |
| 23:33 | dac | bag++ |
| 23:38 | pianohacker | hey dcook |
| 23:41 | dcook | hey pianohacker |
| 23:41 | wahanui | regexes are AWESOME |
| 23:41 | dcook | Get my message? |
| 23:41 | pianohacker | yup, thanks for confirming |
| 23:41 | wish I were surprised by this bug | |
| 23:41 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:41 | Ikr | |
| 23:41 | Alas, that one is above my paygrade. Going to have to take it up with Indexdata | |
| 23:45 | mtompset | Nope. The manual does not help. |
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| 23:52 | mtompset | AH... found the third one. |
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