IRC log for #koha, 2016-02-05

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04:08 dcook This has to be my favourite new Zebra-related error: CCL parsing error (10014) Embedded truncation not supported ZOOM
04:09 Courtesy of YAZ 4.2.27...
04:11 I'm using the st-urx qualifier
04:11 Why would I be trying to embed truncation in a url?
04:12 Truncation is off by default anyway..
04:12 * dcook grumbles
04:12 dcook Even when you tell it "do-not-truncate", you still get this error..
04:12 Oooh... maybe it's because we're forming our queries badly
04:12 * dcook would not be surprised by that either
04:16 dcook Yep, it's Koha's fault
04:16 * dcook sighs
04:35 dcook Easy enough to fix
04:36 TFW you're wondering why your import is failing and then you realize that your "nomatch_action" is set to "ignore"
04:36 * dcook facepalm
04:36 wahanui http://media1.giphy.com/media/[…]5ibpuFO/giphy.gif
04:57 dcook Truncation seems all kinds of screwed up actually..
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06:28 drojf morning #koha
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06:32 FiredBall-0x71 WELCOME TO #HACKED.BASE , HTTP://PEARLTREES.COM/PVPELITER OUR OFFICIAL WEBSITE ... . , THE MOST HIGH CHANNEL FOR HIS PRINCE ... . , /ame JENDRAL SKRAITO YOHANES PATRA, HOW ARE YA ALL , I RELEASE ONE CLASSIFIED GAME FOR YOU ALL , HTTP://Us.runesofmagic.gameforge.com ... . , join #hacked.base ... .
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07:00 * magnuse waves
07:01 drojf hei magnuse
07:01 FiredBall-0x71 hey all
07:01 magnuse moin drojf
07:04 * FiredBall-0x71 WELCOME TO #HACKED.BASE , HTTP://PEARLTREES.COM/PVPELITER OUR OFFICIAL WEBSITE ... . , THE MOST HIGH CHANNEL FOR HIS PRINCE ... . , /ame JENDRAL SKRAITO YOHANES PATRA, HOW ARE YA ALL , I RELEASE ONE CLASSIFIED GAME FOR YOU ALL , HTTP://Us.runesofmagic.gameforge.com ... . , join #hacked.base ... .
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07:10 Francesca heya
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07:12 FiredBall-0x71 heya
07:12 :)
07:14 Francesca yay for airport wifi
07:14 I can hang out on here while I wait
07:14 FiredBall-0x71 oh
07:14 ure flying to where ?
07:15 * FiredBall-0x71 WELCOME TO #HACKED.BASE , HTTP://PEARLTREES.COM/PVPELITER OUR OFFICIAL WEBSITE ... . , THE MOST HIGH CHANNEL FOR HIS PRINCE ... . , /ame JENDRAL SKRAITO YOHANES PATRA, HOW ARE YA ALL , I RELEASE ONE CLASSIFIED GAME FOR YOU ALL , HTTP://Us.runesofmagic.gameforge.com ... . , join #hacked.base ... .
07:16 drojf FiredBall-0x71: go away, nobody likes you
07:16 * FiredBall-0x71 only for 0x71 my prince and my SON ONLY
07:17 FiredBall-0x71 :p too bad for you
07:18 not even me like you too
07:18 like you will enter my day
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07:26 * FiredBall-0x71 WELCOME TO #HACKED.BASE , HTTP://PEARLTREES.COM/PVPELITER OUR OFFICIAL WEBSITE ... . , THE MOST HIGH CHANNEL FOR HIS PRINCE ... . , /ame JENDRAL SKRAITO YOHANES PATRA, HOW ARE YA ALL , I RELEASE ONE CLASSIFIED GAME FOR YOU ALL , HTTP://Us.runesofmagic.gameforge.com ... . , join #hacked.base ... .
07:26 reiveune hello
07:26 wahanui salut, reiveune
07:26 * FiredBall-0x71 ONLY FOR MY PRINCE AND SON THAT WILL REIGN IN MY THRONE ONLY
07:27 ONLY FOR MY PRINCE AND SON THAT WILL REIGN IN MY THRONE ONLY IRC OFTC
07:27 FiredBall-0x71 HELLOW
07:27 :)
07:28 what's up reivuenue and wahanui
07:48 * FiredBall-0x71 WELCOME TO #HACKED.BASE , HTTP://PEARLTREES.COM/PVPELITER OUR OFFICIAL WEBSITE ... . , THE MOST HIGH CHANNEL FOR HIS PRINCE ... . , /ame JENDRAL SKRAITO YOHANES PATRA, HOW ARE YA ALL , I RELEASE ONE CLASSIFIED GAME FOR YOU ALL , HTTP://Us.runesofmagic.gameforge.com ... . , join #hacked.base ... .
07:49 ONLY FOR MY PRINCE AND SON THAT WILL REIGN IN MY THRONE ONLY
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07:50 * FiredBall-0x71 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZLILV18ut8
07:51 alex_a bonjour
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07:52 FiredBall-0x71 bonjour
07:55 * FiredBall-0x71 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy8HPSIFXEM
07:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09FDdfC5R48
08:01 done tracing complete got this all terrorist that undercover
08:02 you can talk now
08:02 magnuse bag, rangi or wizzyrea around?
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08:10 * FiredBall-0x71 WELCOME TO #HACKED.BASE , HTTP://PEARLTREES.COM/PVPELITER OUR OFFICIAL WEBSITE ... . , THE MOST HIGH CHANNEL FOR HIS PRINCE ... . , /ame JENDRAL SKRAITO YOHANES PATRA, HOW ARE YA ALL , I RELEASE ONE CLASSIFIED GAME FOR YOU ALL , HTTP://Us.runesofmagic.gameforge.com ... . , join #hacked.base ... .
08:11 ONLY FOR MY PRINCE AND SON THAT WILL REIGN IN MY THRONE ONLY
08:11 come PRINCE AND SON TO #HACKED.BASE , I WANT TO TALK SOMETHING
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08:18 cait morning #koha
08:19 magnuse kia ora cait
08:19 * FiredBall-0x71 0x71 (xc) Our INTEL CONFERENCE LIVE NOW , I OPEN THE IP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ukj8yPvJs
08:19 cait morning
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08:25 drojf hi cait
08:25 cait hi drojf
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08:27 gaetan_B hello
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08:57 Joubu hi
09:09 gaetan_B http://schema.koha-community.o[…]es/borrowers.html says, surname, address and city cannot be null
09:09 is it new ?
09:09 and why ?
09:09 it's quite common to have users without addresses in the database
09:09 just wondering if there is a reason for this that i am missing
09:10 (i guess i can still put an empty sting in there of course)
09:10 *string
09:10 Joubu gaetan_B: I don't think it's new
09:11 if you don't fill it from the form, an empty string will be put into these fields
09:11 but yes, it would be better to remove this constraint
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09:23 * andreashm waves
09:27 magnuse o/
09:46 andreashm yo magnuse
09:51 interesting to read the log today. =)
09:52 magnuse wassup!
09:53 gotcha
09:53 only for my prince?
09:54 andreashm hehe
09:59 Joubu paul_p: hi! Any chances that you remember what is the "PE" branch category? Do you know if it is still used?
09:59 paul_p hi joubu
09:59 nope, I don't remember what it stand for, sorry
10:00 Joubu If a library is in a group of libraries named "PE", a "IsPermanent" flag is set on transfering the item and the item is not done
10:01 and the *transfer* is not done
10:01 It looks like a very well hidden feature :)
10:03 magnuse an easter egg :-)
10:11 Joubu: dunno if this commit might shed some light: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]098758c4ee7db913d
10:11 it removes some "HLT-style categories" from installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_libraries.sql
10:12 including "('PE', 'Permanent Library', 'Permanent libraries can be used to set an item\'s home location (items.homebranch)');"
10:12 Joubu --- HLT-style categories
10:12 yes, should be confirmed on the ML
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12:44 tcohen morning
12:45 cait morning tcohen
12:45 tcohen cait!
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12:55 oleonard Hi #koha
12:55 cait hi oleonard
12:55 :)
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13:24 tcohen hi oleonard
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13:27 kidclamp oleonard++
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14:17 * magnuse wanders off to make pizza - have fun #koha!
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14:26 oleonard today?
14:26 wahanui today is Sunday
14:27 oleonard Uh huh.
14:29 drojf and i went to work. damn
14:30 nengard ha
14:31 gmcharlt drojf: would you like op?
14:34 drojf gmcharlt: it's been ages since i ran an irc channel, but having the option would not hurt for the rare cases like today
14:35 (not saying i would run anything here ;)
14:36 gmcharlt yeah, I'm just envisioning it as providing a way to have somebody in a position to kick spammers off
14:37 drojf i have done that before
14:37 * oleonard waits in fear for the power to corrupt drojf
14:38 prepares some fawning compliments for drojf just in case
14:38 drojf lol oleonard
14:38 oleonard Anyone here actively using the offline circulation Firefox addon?
14:38 drojf i had my fair share of kickbans for fun when i was younger ;)
14:39 oleonard When I test it I don't end up with any pending offline operations in circulation.
14:40 gmcharlt drojf: ok, you should now be able to request op from chanserv - give it a try?
14:43 drojf let me find out what my password is :D
14:45 looks like that works
14:45 Joubu /kick Joubu
14:45 have a good week-end #koha ;)
14:45 drojf hehe
14:45 alright, thanks gmcharlt
14:46 have a nice weekend Joubu
14:46 gmcharlt groovy
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14:53 vera I will need help on how to get my Z39.50 protocol back to work to enable my library continue with Copy Cataloging. I configured the Z39.50 search point in the past and it had worked perfectly well until some few days ago when i started receiving "not found" error message for any material searched for (I do not know what went wrong).  I have deleted all the libraries (Library of Congress,etc) added to the Z39.50 and re- added them all over again but still get
14:53 same error
14:54 drojf do you run the server yourself?
14:54 vera yes i do
14:55 drojf did you change things like firewall settings?
14:55 vera no, i did not
14:55 drojf can you connect to the servers in question with yaz-client?
14:56 vera its a local server that connect to the internet to get bibliographic information from other libraries
14:59 drojf yes. my question is if you can connect to the z39.50-servers you want to use in koha with yaz-client running on your server
14:59 it's a command line z39.50 client. you will find information on how to use it here http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/yaz-client.html
14:59 vera i should think so
15:00 drojf try it. if that works, you may have a problem in koha. if it doesn't, it seems like either a network problem on your side or wrong server data
15:01 vera ok! thanks!
15:01 i will try that
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15:03 drojf oh cait and magnuse are chanops too. that should have covered our timezone. however it did not today
15:04 i think at least magnuse did not know ;)
15:17 cait gmcharlt: how do i get my ops rights?
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15:17 cait i tried this morning... but only vaguely rememberd something and identifying with the nickserv didn't help :)
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15:23 gmcharlt cait: /msg ChanServ op
15:24 Er, /msg ChanServ #koha op
15:30 cait hm
15:31 hm doesn't seem to work
15:31 uknown command
15:31 tried some variations
15:32 (16:32:01) ChanServ: (notice) Unknown command #koha, /msg ChanServ HELP for help.
15:33 aaah
15:33 figured it out :)
15:34 /msg ChanServ op #koha cait
15:35 oleonard We don't have a way to do batch checkins do we?
15:36 cait oleonard: hm not yet i think, only the bactch checouts - didn't see a bug either
15:37 oleonard Boo.
15:43 Oh, luckily the batch item modification tool checks things in when doing a batch update of checked-out items. That'll work ;)
15:43 Handy. And scary!
15:52 khall: Isn't Bug 15749 the same as  OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown ?
15:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15749 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add library menu to OPAC header
15:53 khall oleonard: not really, it's sort of more like setting your logged in branch on the staff intranet
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16:17 reiveune bye
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16:21 cabillman oleonard: it probably helps to think of 15749 in the context of being a librarian in a room full of 6 year olds :)
16:22 trying to get the kids to log in is problematic
16:22 oleonard cabillman: Unfortunately through that lens we are also assuming that an adult is looking over the user's shoulder and telling them what to click on.
16:22 Right now there is nothing about the menu which indicates what it does.
16:23 * oleonard is putting comments on the bug report
16:23 cabillman oleonard: in our case we have had this patch for years so our patrons are trained
16:23 at the time i don't think you could set the branches based on virtual hosts
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16:56 oleonard I wonder why git branch autocompletion doesn't work on when I'm logged in on my web host
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17:10 gaetan_B bye
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17:32 oleonard Where's SirsiDynix's repo for their fork?
17:32 cait i wonder if paul_p knows more
17:32 biblibre works on coral afaik
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17:34 * oleonard wishes the Coral web site made their software licensing terms more clear.
17:36 drojf i thought its gpl. is it not?
17:38 cait http://coral-erm.org/about/
17:38 GPL v. 3
17:40 drojf only idiots don't switch tpo AGPL. just saying
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17:46 drojf apologies for the wording. let me rephrase
17:46 i think it would be a good idea to switch to AGPL
17:47 for us and for coral
17:49 of course they could also be using a different license if granted by the steering committe. if that is possible, i don't know details of the project structure
17:56 pianohacker drojf: I think this was discussed a while back and voted against, let me check the mailing list
17:57 drojf pianohacker: don't even try, or your brain will melt. i went through a gazillion meeting logs and mailing list threads and i do not think it was actually ever voted on in the end
17:57 but it is a long story for sure
17:59 but it was in a different time. so maybe it could be discussed without the shadow of the company that shall not be named
17:59 i think i took it off the agenda of a meeting because there were other important things, but i'd still ike to discuss it
17:59 *like
18:01 oleonard I seem to recall concerns about what burden the AGPL might place on individuals or institutions using the software -- whether it was the responsibility of each to provide a copy of their code for download.
18:01 drojf yes. slef brought that up, he was the main opponent of agpl within the koha community, as far as i could tell by the logs
18:02 with github available, i don't think that is a valid argument
18:06 oleonard And I suppose that would only affect those who were using a modified version of the software
18:06 drojf it was also about how much bandwidth that would use. which i do not think is valid either in 2016,, not sure if it was back then. github would be an option here too
18:07 oh sure. why would you put up mirrors of the regular koha version you use? :)
18:08 oleonard I would have to if the AGPL demanded that I do so. I'm just trying to think it through and dredge up memory of that discussion.
18:08 drojf it would probably be enough to share patches even, not the whole code. but i am no *gpl expert
18:08 i also don't know if it is enough to provide it on demand, but i don't think so
18:09 oleonard Yeah there's at least one "open source" library-related software that makes you ask for the code.
18:09 Can't remember which, but that's not cool.
18:10 drojf oleonard: do you have real code changes locally? things like usercss, userjs etc would not require anything
18:10 slef yeah, AIUI you can't outsource your AGPL compliance to github unless the licensor grants you an exception to that effect
18:10 oleonard slef: I don't understand what that means.
18:10 slef and right now I don't remember if it matters whether you have "real" code changes
18:10 drojf interesting
18:10 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
18:11 slef oleonard: in what way?
18:11 oleonard can't outsource compliance to github? Meaning you can't post your code there and be in compliance?
18:11 slef bingo
18:11 oleonard It has to somehow come from your own server?
18:11 slef not exactly
18:12 oleonard Who the hell cares where it's hosted?
18:12 drojf i doubt that is true. if an expection is needed, that could be given in general when the license is changed?
18:12 slef They don't, but if github is unavailable for some reason, you're non-compliant if you don't go offline too.
18:12 drojf: it could be.
18:12 drojf slef: sorry but that last thing sounds like FUD
18:13 oleonard By those terms Koha is in non-compliance with GPL if koha-community.org goes down
18:13 drojf at least if you read it in a kind of "github has been down for half a day, shut down your library" way
18:13 slef IIRC thd asked lawyers and their opinion was that it was even worse and we'd have to assure availability of not only Koha but the CPAN modules it uses... but that's all in the email list archives somewhere.
18:14 oleonard: I don't see how. Now that seems like FUD.
18:14 oleonard What's the difference?
18:14 wahanui the difference is with the package the upgrade is more-or-less foolproof.
18:15 slef oleonard: if koha deleted its own source code if koha-community.org went down and left only some obfuscated executable, then it would be non-compliant... but it doesn't do that and I can't see that "feature" being added
18:16 oleonard By that logic making AGPL code available on github is just as reasonable an effort
18:18 pianohacker @later tell dcook have you ever run into all of the elements in zebra::index being empty? (e.g., <index name="Any" type="w" seq="521"></index>) The records contain chinese if that affects anything
18:18 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
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18:19 drojf Q:        Can the application software be running on one server and the source another?
18:19 A:    Yes.
18:20 oh that was a very old page
18:22 onre how would a server going down make you non-compliant with a GPL license?
18:24 slef onre: it can't easily. oleonard seems to be trying to draw some equivalence between GPL and AGPL which isn't there IMO
18:25 https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]-June/024138.html is the first of thd's detailed answers
18:26 actually that one doesn't really cover what I was talking about AFAICS
18:27 * slef keeps looking
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18:30 slef https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]-July/024391.html "FSF has never accepted linking to an upstream version as satisfying the obligation to make the source code available"
18:33 drojf isn't the upstream version plain koha? how would that be acceptable if you are supposed to share your changes?
18:36 oleonard slef I'm not trying to draw equivalence, I'm trying to make analogies.
18:53 drojf ok i will ask somebody about the sharing/github stuff
18:53 any other concerns you can remember?
18:53 slef maybe
18:54 * cait waves
18:55 slef let me look it up here...
19:04 cait oleonard: lookin gat the logs - did you solve your offline circ issue? i wrote a doc about it for us last week, maybe i can help
19:04 oleonard cait: It's working for our production site, but not in my test installation.
19:04 I haven't investigated any further.
19:05 cait: You have customers who use it?
19:07 Aside from the bugs I've reported today, my primary complaint about it is that it clears the patron barcode after each checkout
19:07 That's an easy thing to change manually, but then the plugin is unsigned and causes installation headaches.
19:08 Not sure if that behavior is useful to others? If so it might need a preference.
19:11 cait i wanted to advertise it a bit with the docs
19:11 it was not really needed much so far :)
19:11 hm not sure either, i think it might be a safety thing... so you don#t forget to switch
19:12 but it#s something i wondered about today too
19:12 does your patron has staff permissions?
19:12 did it swtich the status when you uploaded or did jus tnothing happen?
19:12 i found that sometimes you need to enter your config, close the plugin and then open it up again for it to work
19:14 hm have to finish washing the dishes - brb :)
19:14 slef drojf: that seems like the only unique issue and can be dealt with by exceptions permitting distribution of a diff and link to upstream sources and permitting non-monitoring of the upstream sources hosting; the second problem IMO is protocols like SIP where you can't communicate an offer of the Corrsponding Source but that could be handled with the same exception as libbitcoin use.
19:16 oleonard cait: In my test system the KOCT says the status is "added," but the offline circ page in Koha says there are no pending operations.
19:18 drojf slef: thanks for checking. i have written an email draft for the FSFE regarding 1) sharing on github 2) what if github goes down/acceptable time spans the sourc eis not available for technical reasons 3) are patches enough if the regular source is available 4) if 3, do patches have to be modified for newer versions not used by the party doing the changes, given that the version used is still available
19:19 i will read/finish that this weekend and i hope i get some feedback, links, examples
19:22 cait oh
19:22 which button did you use?
19:23 drojf slef: what do you mean with the SIP example? source of the protocol?
19:24 cait one does the synching immediately - i have only used the other
19:24 currently in windows and the plugin is not instally.... but one ready apply... and i used the other it hink :)
19:25 oleonard cait: I used the "commit to Koha" button.
19:25 cait hm
19:25 and they changed  status...
19:26 did you checckthe db table with sql?
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19:30 slef drojf: what can FSFE add to SFLC's advice? Are you shopping between lawyers to get advice you prefer?
19:31 drojf: the SIP example is that koha cannot easily offer the source code to clients who connect over SIP AFAIK
19:31 drojf: and I suspect some other non-HTTP+HTML protocols would not work well for it either.
19:32 cait oleonard: i suspect something in the config - as you aid it works with production but not with test
19:33 i didn't have problems in my testing
19:33 drojf slef: ah i see, thanks for clarifying
19:33 oleonard slef: Why shouldn't drojf get more than one opinion?
19:33 drojf slef: i try to get advice and examples. and those may be different than a few years ago
19:34 slef oleonard: no reason. It's probably OK as long as FSFE is aware that SFLC have also advised.
19:34 oleonard: well, it's a small waste of resources through duplication of effort but tiny on the scale of things.
19:35 drojf: yeah. I think libbitcoin has happened since the last advice.
19:36 drojf i don't see that the last advice was very clear. stuff may be like this or might be like that. or maybe it is not or it might have established some things over time
19:36 oleonard cait: Configuration issue indeed: I was logged in at the wrong library :)
19:38 cait aha!
19:38 so the transactions were all there?
19:38 oleonard Yes
19:39 cait glad - that's better than a bug :)
19:39 oleonard It doesn't make sense to do a big overhaul of the KOCT if Mozilla is about to introduce a new standard for addons.
19:40 cait yeah
19:40 i hope it won't be too hard to get something similar back
19:41 when thy switch
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19:58 oleonard Bye all
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20:32 cca Hi all!  We have imported our records, and those records seem to show they are in Koha, but there are no items in the circulation.  What are we missing?  We can see the books, but we can't check them in or out.
20:33 cait how did you import the items?
20:33 drojf cca: koha expects item data in 952
20:33 cait did you create a 952 marc field?
20:33 cca staged and uploaded a mrc file.
20:34 Not sure.  Where would we have created it?  The mrc file was from an old Follett system...
20:35 drojf you will have to find out how the old system managed items
20:35 either that is in marc or somewhere else
20:36 cca would the file tell me then?
20:36 drojf if it is in marc you should find it in the file. mrc is not really readable though
20:37 you could ask on the mailing list if people have experience with that system. i have heard the name before but don't know it
20:37 cca is there a way to en masse tell koha the books are in stock?
20:37 drojf not if you want to keep the old data, like barcodes, call numbers and stuff. you should get that out of the old system
20:41 actually i don't know if you could use the batch record tool to create items if the data is in koha somewhere. but i would suspect that if the item data was in marc, it was in a custom local field and got lost during the import
20:42 cca Ok, we had a really old system that wasn't compatible past mac os 10.4  so we exported a file from it and are trying to upload to our new system.  And we no longer have that follette software...  Would a modern marc editor be helpful?
20:42 drojf i think so, yes
20:45 cca: http://legacyhelp.fsc.follett.[…]s_information.htm
20:45 that looks like it is in 852
20:45 cabillman we migrated off of follett years ago and I remember having similar problems
20:45 drojf you can see what koha expects here https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]21_Holding_field_.28952.29.2C_3.x_default
20:45 cca Ok.  I'm going to try MarcEdit, and see what happens!  Thanks for all your help!
20:46 cabillman we ended up out sourcing the marc record conversion because none of us had any experience with marc records
20:47 drojf it's a lot to learn of you only do it once
20:48 cca That sounds like a valid solution...  I have never looked at a mrc file in my life.
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23:25 indradg hi #koha
23:26 * indradg wondering what to file a bug against for something in qa-test-tools
23:36 bag heya indradg
23:36 wahanui it has been said that indradg is the one who told me.
23:36 bag I think mtompset had the same question indradg
23:55 indradg bag: heh! bug 15753 filed under command-line utils. although it should prolly not go there
23:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15753 trivial, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , String update in the README for qa-test-tools
23:55 bag there you go!

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