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| 01:25 | jcamins | @later tell NateC Thanks! |
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| 01:29 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 01:29 | huginn` | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 25.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on January 26, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:43 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 06:45 | Francesca | hey |
| 06:54 | drojf | hi Francesca |
| 06:57 | Francesca | sup |
| 06:57 | @wunder wlg | |
| 06:57 | huginn` | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (7:30 PM NZDT on January 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:58 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 06:58 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 8.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:53 | drojf | maybe that is a stupid question, but i don't know anything about google hangouts, so… how does one know where to go to watch the fundraising committe meeting in google hangouts? will google just know to open it because they spy on all things people do so they know your interests? |
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| 07:55 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:57 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:33 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:33 | wahanui | hello, gaetan_B |
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| 08:36 | rangi | ok, sorted |
| 08:36 | git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.https true | |
| 08:36 | (or without the --global probably works too) | |
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| 08:36 | rangi | ill update the wiki and email the koha-devel list |
| 08:41 | cait | rangi++ |
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| 08:55 | magnuse | rangi++ |
| 08:56 | drojf: i think there will be a link | |
| 08:56 | a URI | |
| 09:00 | drojf | rangi++ great! |
| 09:00 | magnuse: ah ok, thanks | |
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| 09:13 | drojf | It won't take more than (duration of presentation) 1) 10 min. 2) 20 min. 3) 30 min. 4) more 5) Option 5 |
| 09:13 | heh | |
| 09:14 | cait | for greece? |
| 09:14 | what topic? :) | |
| 09:14 | drojf | yep |
| 09:15 | it's the proposal submission form. or what do you mean by topic? | |
| 09:15 | cait | what youwant to talk about :) |
| 09:15 | i was curious | |
| 09:17 | drojf | ah. i'm not handing in a proposal yet, i wanted to check what fields are required to do that |
| 09:17 | cait | :) |
| 09:20 | um | |
| 09:20 | can somene test an item specific hold from staff in 3.20.x? | |
| 09:21 | nm | |
| 09:21 | never mind, it's me... | |
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| 10:01 | ashimema | morning |
| 10:27 | SamEEE | hi ashimema! |
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| 10:44 | cait | @quote 123 |
| 10:44 | wahanui | @quote get 123 |
| 10:44 | huginn` | cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 10:44 | wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) | |
| 10:44 | wahanui | ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... |
| 11:04 | SamEEE | Night friends! |
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| 11:08 | drojf | @later tell rangi looks like the login form for bugzilla still uses http |
| 11:08 | huginn` | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:13 | drojf | @later tell rangi i can only reproduce it when i log out and then log in again. firefox does not warn, but firebug does, and i was told safari does too |
| 11:13 | huginn` | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:20 | drojf | @later tell rangi on https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]GoAheadAndLogIn=1 its hardcoded. "<form name="login" action="http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]gzilla3/index.cgi" method="POST">" |
| 11:20 | huginn` | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:28 | BobB | hi cait, are you able to comment on bug 14716 ? |
| 11:28 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14716 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, In Discussion , opac-detail.pl -- Series link fails when series title ends with semicolon preceded by space. |
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| 11:34 | drojf | i hope i did not sound too demanding regarding the fork. :P |
| 11:36 | magnuse | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Ubuntu says "The current recommendation for Ubuntu is 12.04 LTS." Anyone know if that is still what we reccomend? |
| 11:36 | drojf | no it's not |
| 11:36 | the latest LTS, so 14…04 i think | |
| 11:36 | magnuse | yeah, that's what i would have thought too |
| 11:37 | drojf | i wonder if we really need the debian plus the ubuntu page(s) |
| 11:37 | more things to maintain | |
| 11:40 | i also wonder if we should use fundraising money (when we have that one day) to pay for wiki article cleaning. it's not really something we can do along the way, obviously. keeping stuff up to date or updating outdated technical stuff takes a lot of time. or we accept that a part of it is only usable for devs/insiders | |
| 11:45 | looking at the "switching to dom indexing" article, it took quite a few hours to find out how it actually works (because the outdated article did not help much) and rewrite it completely, so i had something i could point people to that needed to do that | |
| 11:47 | i would do that for other things too, but spending a day on an article to explain stuff i already know to the general public is not really something i have spare time for these days | |
| 11:47 | magnuse | yeah, it's hard to find the time... |
| 11:49 | cait | BobB: sorry, was at lunch |
| 11:55 | but on the other hand... it doesn't take long and almost all of us can do it | |
| 11:55 | so I would probably throw money at other things at first | |
| 11:56 | drojf | it can take quite long and it is not done now |
| 11:56 | cait | i guess we will have discussions once there is moeny :) |
| 11:56 | drojf | yeah that will be a lot of fun. lol |
| 12:10 | Koha on Lucid using Koha packages; Koha on Ubuntu; Koha on ubuntu - git; Koha on ubuntu - packages (Arabic Video); Koha on ubuntu - packages long; Koha on ubuntu - tarball | |
| 12:10 | we have a lot of ubuntu documentation | |
| 12:25 | cait | we shouldp robably limit and sort it a bit |
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| 13:11 | misilot | question what's a good limit on the number of bib records to import at once via the marc import tool? |
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| 13:15 | drojf | i checked all koha subdomains for https and spammed all people running them. i hope i won't get killed |
| 13:17 | i did spare rangi because we already talked about it. and wizzyrea deserves a honourable mention because the main website is https only already. thanks :) | |
| 13:18 | anyway everybody running stuff for the community deserves a big thank you :) | |
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| 13:27 | tcohen | morning |
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| 13:49 | cait | hi tcohen |
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| 13:53 | lds | hello |
| 13:53 | wahanui | salut, lds |
| 13:54 | lds | tcohen: hello thomas |
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| 14:00 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 14:02 | hi lds | |
| 14:04 | lds | tcohen: you have time for me in an hour? |
| 14:06 | tcohen | what for? |
| 14:07 | lds | tcohen: for jenkins migration |
| 14:07 | tcohen | sure |
| 14:07 | lds | thanks |
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| 14:16 | cait | tsks at pianohacker :P |
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| 14:50 | tcohen | git bz broken? |
| 14:51 | nengard | tcohen https://twitter.com/gmcharlt/s[…]91987051282042880 |
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| 15:14 | tcohen | kohadevbox:ansible updated to https bz |
| 15:21 | cait | :) |
| 15:21 | tcohen | fixed a bug for newer debian 8 images too |
| 15:50 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:17 | gmcharlt | the wiki is now HTTPS-only; please ping me if you see anything amis |
| 16:17 | cait | gmcharlt++ :) |
| 16:17 | very cool | |
| 16:18 | looking good from here | |
| 16:19 | drojf | gmcharlt++ |
| 16:19 | so i am a successful spammer :P | |
| 16:19 | cait | heh |
| 16:22 | gmcharlt | also, perldoc.koha-community.org is HTTPS-only |
| 16:22 | and debian.koha-community.org now supports HTTPS, but is not yet HTTPS-only | |
| 16:22 | drojf | awesome! thanks! |
| 16:23 | gmcharlt | I plan to make it so, but after confirming whether apt tools can handle the redirect |
| 16:23 | drojf | when you put a ! after awesome, you don't have to pay for it. ha! |
| 16:24 | cait | :) |
| 16:24 | gmcharlt++ again - more sites :) | |
| 16:28 | tcohen | gmcharlt: they can, i've noticed problems with root certificates once |
| 16:28 | drojf | what is (or was) contribs.koha-community.org? it is in the list in the wiki, but not in the detailed list of who maintains what. and it is not available |
| 16:28 | tcohen | so we need to check debian/ubuntu has the ca and root cert installed |
| 16:28 | cait | contribs was never moved from the liblime servers i think |
| 16:29 | and not picked up by someone | |
| 16:29 | drojf | ok so there was a contribs.k*ha.org but never on k-c.org? |
| 16:29 | cait | it hosted some additional things - i remember a few documents from there |
| 16:29 | gmcharlt | tcohen: drojf: works for me, but I don't think we can mandate it |
| 16:29 | cait | i think so |
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| 16:30 | drojf | ok then i delete it from the wiki now |
| 16:30 | cait | someone might still have a copy of the contents, not sure |
| 16:30 | gmcharlt | because the apt-transport-https package must be installed first to use https apt repositories, at least on wheezy |
| 16:31 | drojf | gmcharlt: yes we probably making that https-only is not a nice move then |
| 16:31 | that "we" should not be there | |
| 16:31 | gmcharlt | yeah, I'm not doing it, as I prefer not to have the whole world knocking on my door tomorrow morning ;) |
| 16:31 | drojf | its funny that is not a standard module in debian then |
| 16:32 | lol | |
| 16:32 | cbrannon | Got a question for the room. You know how you can create a dropdown list of items in a Koha report by doing something like i.homebranch=<<Library|branches>>, where branches creates that dropdown list? Is there a list of these lists that can be used in reports somewhere? |
| 16:32 | gmcharlt | drojf: it looks like the reasoning is that apt does enough on its own to verify the validity of packages, and that a HTTPS is not required for that prupose |
| 16:33 | drojf | gmcharlt: given that apt uses gpg keys that is probably true. or at least was back in the days when certificates were expensive |
| 16:35 | i can still use the wiki without https | |
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| 16:36 | drojf | ah i see. it redirects when you open the main url, but does not if you open an article directly |
| 16:36 | gmcharlt | ah, I shall fix that then |
| 16:36 | drojf | which may be due to the funny setup of mediawiki. not sure if mine does that right |
| 16:36 | gmcharlt | and yeah, it's mediawki thing |
| 16:38 | drojf: fixed | |
| 16:40 | drojf | works for me, thanks gmcharlt! |
| 16:48 | the apt-transport-https package is not standard in jessie either, just tried | |
| 16:51 | * drojf | heads home |
| 17:27 | cait | @later tell cbrannon the reports lists codes are documented on the help page i think - it shoudl work for all authorized values, branches and itemtypes |
| 17:27 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:44 | cait | khall: i like bug 15675 :) |
| 18:44 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15675 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add issue_id column to accountlines and use it for updating fines |
| 18:44 | khall | thanks! it's my first part of the accounts rewrite rewrite! |
| 18:44 | cait | as we want to switch to the new dateformat... i was kind of grumpy about just that thing |
| 18:44 | a goodfirst step :) | |
| 18:45 | storing the due date in the description did never seem like a good idea | |
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| 19:27 | rangi | morning |
| 19:28 | cait | morning |
| 19:28 | rangi | drojf: ill look into that login form issue now |
| 19:29 | drojf | rangi: cool, thanks! and good morning :) |
| 19:31 | rangi | interesting if you do it it from here |
| 19:32 | https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ with the js .. its https | |
| 19:32 | if you go to the page itself, without js | |
| 19:32 | drojf | yes, i have seen that. it only happens when you log out there and in again |
| 19:32 | rangi | it's http |
| 19:32 | yeah | |
| 19:32 | drojf | yes or that |
| 19:32 | its really odd | |
| 19:32 | rangi | yup |
| 19:33 | i bet its a config variable i can change | |
| 19:33 | 2 secs ill try to find it | |
| 19:33 | drojf | i did not see it myself. somebody complained to me about having no https on bz and then immediately found that too |
| 19:33 | after i said its fixed | |
| 19:33 | rangi | heh |
| 19:33 | drojf | good tester :D |
| 19:34 | rangi | try that |
| 19:35 | drojf | no warning in firebug anymore |
| 19:36 | tried the url directly, no warning either | |
| 19:36 | i mean https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]GoAheadAndLogIn=1 | |
| 19:36 | rangi | sweet |
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| 19:36 | drojf | thanks |
| 19:38 | i think we have 5 https subdomains now. cool | |
| 19:40 | rangi | ill do some more as time permits, I think all the ones with logins now eh? |
| 19:41 | cait | pretty good progress for a day :) from 1 to 5 |
| 19:41 | drojf | yeah that would be cool. it's awesome the wiki is https only now. translate would be nice too |
| 19:41 | rangi | ah yep |
| 19:41 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7241] circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number <https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7241> |
| 19:41 | cait | hm i think translte is in argentina somewhere? |
| 19:41 | rangi | might want to ping bernardo |
| 19:41 | drojf | i spammed/friendly reminded everyone |
| 19:41 | rangi | he looks after that |
| 19:41 | drojf | e got an email :) |
| 19:42 | onyl you got none because we talked about it anyway | |
| 19:42 | *only | |
| 19:43 | in the end i found the list of all domains… it's on the main wiki page so i did not find it with a search haha | |
| 19:43 | search in mediawiki sucks | |
| 19:43 | rangi | it really does |
| 19:44 | drojf | i think it splits everything at " ". try finding a part of a word, nope |
| 19:45 | rangi | in theory, we could index it with elasticsearch or something else, and search that, but that would be just more procrastinating so I don't have to write presentations |
| 19:45 | drojf | lol yeah |
| 19:45 | cait | heh |
| 19:45 | drojf | speaking of which… what is the estimated time frage for ES in koha? |
| 19:45 | frame even | |
| 19:46 | cait | there is a branch on the main repo now - I think |
| 19:46 | bag | 10 days ago :) |
| 19:46 | heh | |
| 19:46 | drojf | or, is 3.24 an option or probably not? |
| 19:46 | bag | I think it is a very viable option for 3.24 |
| 19:46 | cait | but we need to get working on it :) |
| 19:47 | drojf | ok so the catalyst branch obsolete? |
| 19:47 | or are those synced in some way? | |
| 19:47 | rangi | they are currently the same |
| 19:47 | drojf | (meaning, can i keep that vm or do i redo everything ^^) |
| 19:48 | ok cool | |
| 19:48 | rangi | the catalyst branch was rebased on top of master, then that was pushed |
| 19:48 | to git.koha-community.org | |
| 19:48 | because it was rebased, you'll probably need to do a fresh checkout anyway | |
| 19:49 | drojf | yeah, makes sense |
| 19:50 | bag | and it has some koha-conf changes so that would need to be run too (iirc) |
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| 20:01 | drojf | oh look, its redirect http to https day :D |
| 20:01 | * drojf | giggles |
| 20:01 | rangi | heh |
| 20:01 | just answering that now | |
| 20:01 | drojf | ok then i won't :) |
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| 20:09 | bag | @seen tcohen |
| 20:09 | huginn` | bag: tcohen was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <tcohen> so we need to check debian/ubuntu has the ca and root cert installed |
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| 20:20 | rangi | drojf: that make sense as an email? |
| 20:26 | drojf | rangi: i wonder if they use the same (sub)domain and two different ports, so they would need 443 for opac and 8443 (or whatever) for staff? but the mail was only about intranet |
| 20:27 | rangi | hmm true |
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| 20:42 | eythian | Welcome back |
| 20:42 | wahanui | I was trapped in a maze of twisty, turny passages, all alike. |
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| 21:15 | Francesca | good morning |
| 21:15 | wahanui | well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
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| 21:32 | kidclamp | hey cbrannon |
| 21:32 | wahanui | cbrannon is attempting to setup a test box for Koha. I am in debian and use "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone", but I get a connection refused error. Any ideas what I am doing wrong? FYI, I've never used debian before today. |
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| 22:50 | nengard | @later tell drojf did you see https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14168 |
| 22:50 | huginn` | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:50 | 04Bug 14168: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube | |
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| 23:23 | dcook | Interesting reading: Reading about MARC and how it's defined |
| 23:23 | * dcook | facepalm |
| 23:23 | wahanui | http://buikitty.files.wordpres[…]120202-094434.jpg |
| 23:23 | dcook | https://www.loc.gov/marc/96principl.html |
| 23:24 | 2.1. The MARC 21 formats are communication formats, primarily designed to provide specifications for the exchange of bibliographic and related information between systems. They are widely used in a variety of exchange and processing environments. As communication formats, they do not mandate internal storage or display formats to be used by individual systems. | |
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| 23:28 | bag | @later tell magnuse HI THERE |
| 23:28 | huginn` | bag: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:28 | bag | happy birthday trea |
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