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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | rangi | theres ways around it, ... and better ways than ENV |
| 00:00 | pianohacker_DND | agreed |
| 00:00 | but where does the config go, given that the use-case assumes multiple virtualhosts sharing one koha-conf.xml? | |
| 00:01 | rangi | i think setting headers |
| 00:02 | pianohacker_DND | yeah, that seems reasonable enough, assuming there's some way we can filter out those headers in external traffic |
| 00:02 | there's no way we can make this backwards compatible with existing setups though, no? | |
| 00:02 | rangi | well you could remove, and add a new |
| 00:02 | to make sure its only ever the header we set | |
| 00:03 | pianohacker_DND | yeah |
| 00:03 | rangi | not easily no, we made the bad decision to use ENV variables in the past .. can't go back to that really |
| 00:04 | pianohacker_DND | I think I'll end up implementing this and submitting it since it seems like a workable patch and we have customers looking to test plack |
| 00:04 | rangi | yep |
| 00:04 | * rangi | goes to eat pizza |
| 00:05 | * Francesca | wishes she could have pizza too |
| 00:06 | pianohacker_DND | I think I need stress pizza |
| 00:06 | this is giving me a headache | |
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| 00:12 | Francesca | @bartender pianohacker_DND |
| 00:12 | * huginn` | fills a pint glass with Allagash 10th Anniversary Ale, and sends it sliding down the bar to pianohacker_DND (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/24209/) |
| 00:12 | dcook | Nothing like finding an infinite loop which has been running for 10 days.. |
| 00:12 | And progressively negatively impacting server performance :D | |
| 00:13 | Francesca | just the thought makes me want to vanish |
| 00:13 | dcook | It's why they pay me some bucks :p |
| 00:13 | * dcook | is going to eat a cookie as a reward for fixing all the things |
| 00:14 | * Francesca | sends dcook a virtual cookie for fixing all the things |
| 00:14 | dcook | :) |
| 00:15 | rangi: How would you do it without using ENV variables? | |
| 00:15 | Presuming I know what the conversation was about... I assume DSpace manages because it embeds the configuration code in the source code.. | |
| 00:16 | Err... same directory that is | |
| 00:16 | Francesca | I think rangi is eating pizza |
| 00:16 | dcook | Ah, fair enough |
| 00:16 | I have other stuff to do anyway >_> | |
| 00:16 | Oh hey, I'm listening to music. When did that happen.. | |
| 00:16 | You know your brain has been working too fast when.. | |
| 00:19 | wizzyrea | hum, did we change it so that if the xslt loading fails it doesn't die with an ugly error |
| 00:22 | dcook | Yeah I don't think it has an ugly error anymore |
| 00:22 | I think it just doesn't really show anything | |
| 00:23 | Like... you'll get a list of 20 entries with nothing but star reviews or sutin | |
| 00:23 | Huh... this is totally the reason why I use "sutin": http://www.urbandictionary.com[…]ne.php?term=Sutin | |
| 00:29 | wizzyrea | yeah, that's what I'm seeing |
| 00:29 | I wish the errors in the log were a squidge more verbose :P | |
| 00:29 | * dcook | likes verbosity |
| 00:30 | pianohacker_DND | dcook: the planned workaround that I'm going to slap together will use HTTP request headers set in the apache conf |
| 00:30 | dcook | pianohacker_DND: Admittedly, I don't even know entirely what we're talking about. What data are you trying to send? |
| 00:32 | pianohacker_DND | dcook: so, you know how you can use SetEnv MEMCACHED_SERVERS, OVERRIDE_SYSPREF_*, OPAC_LIMIT_OVERRIDE, etc. to override settings per-virtualhost with a shared koha-conf.xml? |
| 00:33 | gandalf | https://youtu.be/JWPGdAdbyxY |
| 00:34 | dcook | pianohacker_DND: Yep |
| 00:34 | pianohacker_DND | dcook: that doesn't and likely can't work in Plack |
| 00:34 | dcook | Interesting |
| 00:34 | wahanui | i think Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 00:34 | wizzyrea | \o/ awesome gandalf |
| 00:35 | dcook | I guess because Apache is just the reverse proxy.. |
| 00:35 | pianohacker_DND | yup |
| 00:35 | exactly | |
| 00:35 | dcook | How does it manage with KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB? |
| 00:35 | Or are those values stored elsewhere with Plack? | |
| 00:35 | pianohacker_DND | any environment variables set when the plack server is launched will be kept |
| 00:35 | so yeah | |
| 00:36 | dcook | ? |
| 00:36 | So they're just exported before starting up the plack server? | |
| 00:36 | pianohacker_DND | dcook: yeah |
| 00:36 | the package plack scripts take care of that | |
| 00:36 | dcook | I have wondered how that works for multiple sites.. |
| 00:36 | Ahh, darned package scripts :p | |
| 00:36 | I think I'm doomed to forever be around the curve not using Debian-based OSes for Koha | |
| 00:36 | pianohacker_DND | and that still works for multiple instances because it starts a plack server for each one |
| 00:37 | dcook | I figured it must but I was curious |
| 00:37 | That must be pretty memory intensive I would guess | |
| 00:37 | Depending on how many instances you have on your serverf | |
| 00:37 | server* | |
| 00:37 | pianohacker_DND | *shrug* no idea |
| 00:37 | * dcook | was thinking about this while waiting for a traffic light the other day |
| 00:37 | pianohacker_DND | but regardless, none of this allows the virtualhost-specific settings... |
| 00:37 | dcook | I guess it depends on what Plack loads when starting up |
| 00:37 | Right | |
| 00:38 | pianohacker_DND | so we're thinking of a hack using RequestHeader in place of SetEnv (and a patch to make Koha respect that) |
| 00:38 | dcook | Why not move them to the same place as KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB? |
| 00:38 | I guess that's a bit tougher as it's more individualized | |
| 00:38 | Less predictable.. | |
| 00:38 | For the package scripts | |
| 00:39 | * dcook | understands rangi's point now |
| 00:39 | wizzyrea | pianohacker_DND: papa was looking at that |
| 00:39 | pianohacker_DND | oh? |
| 00:39 | wizzyrea | yeah, I don't know where he got to, actually. |
| 00:39 | * pianohacker_DND | looks at papa |
| 00:40 | wizzyrea | dcook - it'd be a pain but worth it to switch to debian :P |
| 00:40 | pianohacker_DND | dcook: it's not even a package script issue. If you have two virtualhosts on the same koha instance and you want different CSS for each one, they need different values for OPAC_CSS_OVERRIDE |
| 00:41 | * pianohacker_DND | needs a break |
| 00:41 | pianohacker_DND | night all |
| 00:41 | wahanui | goodnight pianohacker_DND. You'll be back. |
| 01:06 | dcook | I can't believe I've never done "man man" before |
| 01:07 | @later tell pianohacker I just meant that I don't have access to the Debian Koha package scripts on openSUSE :P | |
| 01:07 | huginn` | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:07 | dcook | wizzyrea: Yeah, I really should advocate a switch to Debian one day.. |
| 01:07 | Also, who knew that "man 2 syslog" was the way to get the 2nd section? | |
| 01:07 | I've always wanted to do "man syslog 2" or "man syslog(2)" or "man syslog (2)" | |
| 01:07 | "man man", man | |
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| 01:45 | reza | phew, I have 3.10 to 3.20 |
| 01:45 | upgraded | |
| 02:19 | wizzyrea | dcook it's a real shame there's no 'man babies' |
| 02:19 | hm. that was unintentionally funny in like 4 different ways. | |
| 02:20 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:20 | I feel like I want to giggle in 4 different ways | |
| 02:23 | I feel like I was doing something a moment ago.. | |
| 02:27 | wizzyrea | you were. I distracted you, I'm sorry. |
| 02:27 | dcook | man babies... hehe |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 02:44 | dcook | This is the week from hell |
| 02:45 | Server crashes on Monday, DNS crash right now.. | |
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| 03:11 | reza | how can I check what is my Koha instance name |
| 03:11 | is it in koha-config? | |
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| 03:34 | * Francesca | waves |
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| 03:37 | wizzyrea | reza: sudo koha-list --enabled |
| 03:43 | * Francesca | waves at wizzyrea |
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| 03:48 | reza_ | wizzyrea: thanks |
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| 05:07 | reza | I used sudo koha-list --enabled to gt the koha instance |
| 05:07 | but it's not returning anything | |
| 05:16 | mtj | reza: perhaps its not enabled? |
| 05:17 | if you have a problem with that instance... just make a new one :) | |
| 05:18 | ..then dump/load the database into your new koha | |
| 05:20 | reza | how can i find out what is the instance of running koha |
| 05:20 | cos koha is up and running | |
| 05:21 | mtj | koha-list |
| 05:21 | koha-list --enabled | |
| 05:21 | reza | returning nothing |
| 05:22 | mtj | well... thats a problem hey |
| 05:22 | koha-create --create-db koha1 | |
| 05:22 | reza | i have to say this is a new upgraded koha |
| 05:23 | mtj | make a new koha instance, then load your db into that |
| 05:24 | reza | it's on production |
| 05:25 | does it make a downtime? | |
| 05:25 | mtj | yes, will take you a few hours to work thru the process |
| 05:25 | reza | any instruction ? |
| 05:26 | mtj | ...as its your 1st time, and you will be careful :) |
| 05:26 | reza | yeah :D , |
| 05:29 | mtj | reza: run this command after you load your old db into your new koha... |
| 05:29 | koha-upgrade-schema mykoha101 | |
| 05:30 | ..its the command-line version of the 'web upgrade' process | |
| 05:32 | https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pub[…]nuary/038307.html | |
| 05:32 | reza | mtj: thank you :) |
| 05:32 | mtj | ^ ..thats a good email, with instructions |
| 05:33 | 5. sudo koha-mysql library < backedup.sql | |
| 05:33 | 6. sudo koha-upgrade-schema library | |
| 05:34 | then... | |
| 05:34 | 7. sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f library | |
| 05:35 | all finished :0) | |
| 05:35 | reza | another question is when i install a new koha besides the koha-conf.xml is there any other file that store the necessary information? |
| 05:37 | in case if I install a fresh koha and just point it to a DB? | |
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| 07:54 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:54 | wahanui | what's up, reiveune |
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| 08:03 | Francesca | hey |
| 08:04 | Joubu | hi |
| 08:07 | schnydszch | hello! |
| 08:09 | am I right in saying that searching by publication date range in Koha default installation (indexes not fixed), 008 date range is the one in used? | |
| 08:10 | this as well for sorting | |
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| 08:18 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:23 | Francesca | hey |
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| 08:56 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
| 08:56 | @wunder LCY | |
| 08:56 | huginn` | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 7.0°C (8:50 AM GMT on January 22, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:56 | LibraryClaire | practically tropical out... |
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| 09:00 | esdaniel | hello, anyone using docker on a single cloud vps for koha with 2 containers, 1 for httpd and 1 for mysql, or is this a bad approach for a single svr solution? |
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| 10:49 | * cait | waves |
| 10:59 | LibraryClaire | hi cait |
| 10:59 | cait | on a train today - might fall off now and then |
| 11:03 | LibraryClaire | not advisable to fall off trains |
| 11:03 | it hurts | |
| 11:08 | cait | very true :) |
| 11:08 | also hurts when you got no internet... sometimes | |
| 11:09 | LibraryClaire | hehe truer |
| 11:10 | going soewhere nice at least? | |
| 11:22 | cait | visiting my dad for the weekend :) |
| 11:22 | LibraryClaire | ooh nice :D |
| 11:27 | cait | yep :) |
| 11:35 | time to switch trains | |
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| 12:41 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:49 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
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| 13:11 | oleonard | What is the difference between unchecking a notice in patron messaging preferences and checking the "do not notify" box? |
| 13:11 | Or is it just a shortcut for unchecking all the boxes in that row? | |
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| 13:14 | oleonard | Bug 5501 |
| 13:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5501 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Improve the 'do not notify' option |
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| 13:24 | tcohen | hi |
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| 13:52 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 13:52 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -5.1°C (8:51 AM EST on January 22, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 10 am this morning to 7 PM EST Saturday... |
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| 14:48 | bag | @wunder 97215 |
| 14:48 | huginn` | bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 9.3°C (6:48 AM PST on January 22, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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| 15:26 | geek_cl | Hi #koha guys o/ |
| 15:26 | here again with a issue: | |
| 15:26 | http://pastebin.com/QrrcG7Px | |
| 15:26 | trying to batch_delete_records.pl | |
| 15:27 | in the table biblioitem, we add some "other" fields | |
| 15:27 | where i can add those field in order to o batch_delete_records.pl delete them ? | |
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| 16:02 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:32 | pianohacker | https://developer.mozilla.org/[…]e_messages#Server |
| 17:43 | * oleonard | sets off into the snowstorm |
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| 17:58 | npls | Hello. Does anyone know if it is possible to search by bib. number to produce a direct link to that record? There seems to be no search by bib. number in the catalogue search and the only thing I can think of is using an SQL query each time, which is not practical... |
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| 18:47 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 18:47 | Where would submit a suggestion for the perlcriticrc for the koha qa test tools? | |
| 18:48 | Specifically adding: | |
| 18:48 | [InputOutput::RequireCheckedSyscalls] | |
| 18:48 | functions = :builtins | |
| 18:48 | exclude_functions = print | |
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| 18:54 | bag | there could be a bug for that |
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| 20:53 | mtompset | tcohen: Greetings! |
| 20:54 | bag: Not sure about that. I just made a bug for it: bug 15646 | |
| 20:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , koha qa test tools |
| 20:54 | bag | mtompset: leave an at later for Joubu |
| 20:55 | mtompset | @later tell Joubu Could you look at bug 15646 please? |
| 20:55 | huginn` | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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| 22:05 | * Francesca | waves |
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| 22:23 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15606: Fix spelling mistake in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb014abe9a4822ddd> |
| 22:25 | pianohacker | cait: have we stopped keeping sysprefs.sql in sync? |
| 22:31 | cait | pianohacker: nope |
| 22:31 | if something is mssing that's bad | |
| 22:31 | pianohacker | :( |
| 22:31 | cait | what is missing? |
| 22:31 | wahanui | missing is usualy library only, an item that's not out |
| 22:31 | bag | oh roh |
| 22:31 | cait | hm? |
| 22:31 | * bag | ears perk up |
| 22:31 | bag | hi cait |
| 22:31 | cait | hi bag :) |
| 22:32 | pastebot | Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "cait, bag: sysprefs.sql out of sync" (123 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/272 |
| 22:33 | pianohacker | some of these are intentional, but not most |
| 22:34 | bag | hmm wanna send up a patch to get them in sync pianohacker ? |
| 22:34 | pianohacker | I can, but probably won't be able to for a bit. Backlog of other stuff |
| 22:35 | cait | some of those look suspiciuos |
| 22:35 | HoldsInNoIssuesCharge? | |
| 22:36 | hm | |
| 22:36 | yeah a patch would be good | |
| 22:37 | bag | yeah pianohacker understood - I know making elk stew definitely gets in the way |
| 22:37 | pianohacker | pfft |
| 22:38 | and pavlova! | |
| 22:38 | chocolate pavlova | |
| 22:43 | cait | what did i miss here? :) |
| 22:44 | pianohacker | cait: we're talking about cooking in #bywater |
| 22:44 | pavlova++ | |
| 22:44 | second best thing in my life to come out of New Zealand | |
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| 22:48 | cait | heh |
| 22:49 | * cait | had some in nz :) |
| 22:49 | pianohacker | it's not too hard to make if you have a mixer, and it's friggin amazing |
| 22:49 | I've made friends with it | |
| 22:50 | bag | umm… shouldn’t you use flower pianohacker ? |
| 22:50 | flour* | |
| 22:50 | even | |
| 22:51 | cait | pianohacker: i'd like to talk about bug 15647 sometime |
| 22:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15647 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, ASSIGNED , Allow selection of destination email address for print overdue notices |
| 22:51 | cait | but not when it's late :) |
| 22:51 | pianohacker | cait: You'll have a patch to look at soon ;) |
| 22:51 | cait | there is another spot you might want to change |
| 22:51 | pianohacker | bag: in the pavlova? |
| 22:51 | bag | well I know you shouldn’t use friends |
| 22:51 | pianohacker | pfft |
| 22:52 | cait | if this is a similar problem than we have |
| 22:52 | pianohacker | cait: kk. Poke me, definitely :) |
| 22:52 | cait | for us we use branchemail with a bsz service address |
| 22:52 | because hosting... and spam... and it's too complicated | |
| 22:53 | wonder if it's similar for you | |
| 22:54 | pianohacker | cait: I think we're in exactly the same situation, that's the motivation for this |
| 22:54 | cait | it causes a problem for overdues |
| 22:54 | and another notice | |
| 22:54 | but i don't remember now - i fixed it on our branch | |
| 22:54 | so i need to go and look it up monday probably :) | |
| 22:54 | it might be nice to have a general setting | |
| 22:55 | on what the 'branch' email is of the three | |
| 22:55 | one thing that also comes to mind is the emial address shown on the error mages | |
| 22:55 | error pages | |
| 22:55 | we are using branchemai in a lot of places - i remember i fixed that one with jquery, but overdues and another i had to patch | |
| 22:56 | pianohacker | yeah, some which make sense and some which don't |
| 22:56 | very overloaded | |
| 22:56 | This patch will probably just fix overdues, as it's kind of urgent, but I'll try to lay the Koha:: groundwork to make the rest easy | |
| 22:57 | cait | maybe.. the problem is basically that the library email ends up in reply-to... and you don't want people to write to the one in branch email |
| 22:57 | * Francesca | waves |
| 22:57 | * pianohacker | sevaw |
| 22:57 | cait | ok, caused enough confusion for tonight .) |
| 22:57 | pianohacker | cait: yeah, and you need to sleep |
| 22:57 | cait | have a good weekend all :) |
| 22:57 | pianohacker | see ya monday |
| 22:58 | you too | |
| 22:58 | cait | I will :) |
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| 23:06 | Francesca | pianohacker: why the backwards wave |
| 23:06 | pianohacker | I was waving back! |
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| 23:08 | cait | lol |
| 23:08 | night :) | |
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| 23:12 | Francesca | so pianohacker - how go things on your side of the planet |
| 23:13 | pianohacker | Francesca: ^ I've got a lot of cooking this weekend (forgot to mention gumbo too), and a salsa dance class |
| 23:13 | life is exciting | |
| 23:13 | how about you? | |
| 23:13 | Francesca | ohh salsa dance |
| 23:13 | sounds fun | |
| 23:13 | pianohacker | hopefully :) |
| 23:14 | Francesca | I'm sick so missed out on what would have been my first beer o'clock as an employee yesterday - weathers nice but its gonna be a quiet long weekend for me |
| 23:14 | pianohacker | Francesca: as an employee? |
| 23:15 | mtompset | Have a great weekend, #koha. |
| 23:15 | Francesca | oh right |
| 23:15 | me? | |
| 23:15 | wahanui | you are a junior developer with koha (suprise) |
| 23:15 | Francesca | pianohacker: suprise |
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