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| 00:07 | JoshB joined #koha | |
| 00:07 | wizzyrea | rangi: yes, definitely would be good to figure out why that happens. pretty annoying/baffling |
| 00:34 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]y#Bugs_to_work_on |
| 00:36 | aleisha | chris: what do you think about bug 15434 and bug 7497 to work on? |
| 00:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15434 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Patch doesn't apply , Make search results breadcrumbs human readable |
| 00:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7497 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , "kw,wrdl" and variants should be replaced by something more explicit in search history | |
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| 00:45 | dcook | This is random but does anyone have a good way of comparing hexadecimal numbers in Perl? |
| 00:45 | String equality doesn't seem like a great idea since 0F10 and F10 are the same number but not when stringified.. | |
| 00:45 | rangi | gandalf: http://paste.koha-community.org/259 |
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| 00:52 | dcook | I guess it's not really a hexadecimal value... it's actually a string representation.. |
| 01:09 | bree | bit.ly/1RwJHY4 |
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| 01:24 | rangi | gandalf: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12028 |
| 01:24 | huginn` | 04Bug 12028: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Add cardnumber on update patron records page |
| 01:32 | rangi | anyone about? has anyone ever seen this screen? |
| 01:33 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=26768 | |
| 01:33 | i feel like this a local customisation | |
| 01:36 | dcook | Hmm? |
| 01:36 | Huh... | |
| 01:36 | rangi: Nope, can't say I've ever seen that before | |
| 01:36 | Koha Cegeps... is that a screen from inlibro? | |
| 01:37 | rangi | ahhh nope its the page you see if borrowers have updated their info on the opac |
| 01:37 | took a while to find it ;) | |
| 01:39 | dcook | Ah, neato |
| 01:42 | jcamins | Darn, too late. I was going to tell you it was for when borrowers updated their profile. |
| 01:49 | rangi | thanks jcamins :) |
| 01:49 | good to get confirmation | |
| 01:49 | turns out the bug is already fixed | |
| 01:50 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12028 | |
| 01:51 | huginn` | 04Bug 12028: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED FIXED, Add cardnumber on update patron records page |
| 01:51 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=46840 |
| 01:51 | always a bit of a let down when you find it's already fixed | |
| 01:51 | dcook | ^ |
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| 02:49 | rangi | https://www.openhub.net/p/koha |
| 02:53 | http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/ | |
| 02:56 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 02:56 | huginn` | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 30.0°C (1:30 PM AEDT on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:56 | dcook | It can't really be 30 out there.. |
| 02:57 | rangi | http://www.librarytechnology.org/map.pl?ILS=Koha |
| 02:59 | dcook | Oh my |
| 02:59 | Hmm, I wonder if that includes any of our libraries | |
| 02:59 | Could probably add another 70 icons to Australia | |
| 02:59 | Oh, it does include one.. | |
| 03:42 | wizzyrea | fun fact, according to openhub january 2002 was the only month in all of koha history where there were 0 commits. |
| 03:50 | dcook | That is a fun fact |
| 03:50 | Emphasis on IS | |
| 03:50 | I wasn't being sarcastic... | |
| 03:51 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 03:51 | how long to baby day? | |
| 03:52 | dcook | Mmm not too long |
| 03:52 | * dcook | calculates |
| 03:52 | dcook | 7 weeks? |
| 03:53 | wizzyrea | EEP |
| 03:53 | SO EXCITING. | |
| 03:53 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:53 | Yeah, I'm pretty excited :) | |
| 03:54 | Work is a bit too stressful at the moment, but other than that, things are good | |
| 03:54 | Mostly good | |
| 03:54 | wizzyrea | sweet |
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| 04:43 | dcook | Found a solution for bug 15541 but now how to write a coherent test plan.. |
| 04:43 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Prevent normalization during matching/import process |
| 04:43 | * dcook | waves to Francesca |
| 04:43 | * Francesca | waves at dcook |
| 04:44 | Francesca | just had my first day at work |
| 04:44 | dcook | Oh? |
| 04:44 | How was it? :) | |
| 04:44 | Francesca | good :) I know quite a few people already so it was mainly just getting my pc set up |
| 04:45 | before my mentor/buddy takes me around to meet other people at the company | |
| 04:45 | dcook | Ah, Catalyst have hired you on? |
| 04:45 | Francesca | yip |
| 04:45 | part-time with the koha team | |
| 04:45 | dcook | Nice! |
| 04:45 | Francesca | I'm super excited |
| 04:45 | dcook | Good to have you on board :) |
| 04:45 | Francesca | thanks :) |
| 04:47 | how are things over in aus? | |
| 04:47 | dcook | Super duper busy :/ |
| 04:47 | Which has its ups and downs I guess, haha | |
| 04:47 | Rather be busy than bored | |
| 04:47 | But I could sure use some part-time help! | |
| 04:48 | Actually, I'd love more full-time help as well | |
| 04:48 | But yeah, other than that... baby due in about 7 weeks, so stoked to be a dad | |
| 04:48 | Francesca | hahaha well I can't move to aus to help |
| 04:48 | oh cool exciting! | |
| 04:48 | dcook | Yeah, I'm pretty excited :) |
| 04:48 | Francesca | actually my mum just got back from sydney - she was on holiday there |
| 04:48 | dcook | So trying to get things wrapped up before I take off a bunch of time to be at home with bub |
| 04:48 | Yeah? How'd she like it? | |
| 04:48 | The weather has been all over the place | |
| 04:49 | Francesca | she said it was hot |
| 04:50 | didnt say anything about crazy weather but we're used to crazy weather in wlg | |
| 04:50 | her flight got cancelled due to fog | |
| 04:50 | then the day they landed we had fog, heavy downpours and thunderstorms! | |
| 04:51 | dcook | Yikes! |
| 04:52 | Francesca | yeah didnt really feel like summmer |
| 04:53 | dcook | Yeah, some days I have blankets and other days I can't handle a sheet |
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| 04:53 | rangi | its hot, but muggy |
| 04:53 | dcook | Last night started out cool then super hot around 1am... then cool again int he morning |
| 04:54 | Ugh, muggy | |
| 04:54 | Francesca | muggy isn't nice |
| 04:55 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]yst_Academy#Day_1 <-- not a bad first days effort |
| 04:55 | Amit_Gupta | hi rangi |
| 04:55 | hi all | |
| 04:55 | liz around? | |
| 04:55 | rangi | 13 patches |
| 04:56 | Francesca | thats great! |
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| 05:03 | dcook | I keep thinking the Record Matching Rules must have either been different in the past or were envisioned differently... |
| 05:22 | Hmm, I've been meaning to test some of the item matching stuff... no time like the present.. | |
| 05:33 | Ok, so even when you're using the phrase register, yaz-client will still show the "w" register when using zebra::snippet... but it IS actually using the "p" register | |
| 05:33 | That's good.. | |
| 05:34 | Ah, the 952 fields aren't usable for record matching.. makes sense | |
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| 07:07 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 07:07 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is -4.0°C (7:52 AM CET on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:08 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 07:08 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:09 | rangi | it seems to be constantly 19 here |
| 07:09 | onre | we're probably at -19 here in pirkanmaa, finland |
| 07:11 | rangi | @wunder pirkanmaa, finland |
| 07:11 | huginn` | rangi: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
| 07:11 | rangi | worth a try ;) |
| 07:13 | onre | @wunder pirkkala |
| 07:13 | huginn` | onre: The current temperature in Tampere, Finland is -16.0°C (8:50 AM EET on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:14 | onre | that's the airport, they have a weather station |
| 07:15 | rangi | ahh right |
| 07:16 | onre | i'm trying to figure out if there are any open z39.50 sources for finnish publications |
| 07:16 | rangi | hmmm i dont think olli is on line, he might know |
| 07:18 | onre | randomly sampling my bookshelf it seems like i'm basically covered what comes to non-finnish publications using the open services found on the koha wiki |
| 07:23 | cait | @wunder konstanz |
| 07:23 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is -6.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:24 | liw | @wunder vuosaari, finland |
| 07:24 | huginn` | liw: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
| 07:24 | liw | @wunder helsinki, finland |
| 07:24 | huginn` | liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -13.0°C (9:20 AM EET on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:30 | rangi | onre: library of congress has pretty decent coverage |
| 07:30 | liw: hope you are feeling better today | |
| 07:30 | liw | rangi, a little bit better, thank you |
| 07:30 | onre | rangi, thanks, nice |
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| 07:33 | * cait | waves |
| 07:33 | cait | bbiab |
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| 07:42 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:01 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 08:01 | wahanui | bidet, alex_a |
| 08:01 | rangi | hi drojf alex_a matts and reiveune |
| 08:01 | matts | hi ! |
| 08:01 | alex_a | hello rangi |
| 08:01 | reiveune | hi rangi |
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| 08:09 | drojf | morning #koha |
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| 08:16 | cait | back |
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| 08:18 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:18 | cait | hi gaetan_B :) |
| 08:20 | Joubu | hi #koha |
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| 09:06 | * cait | waves |
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| 09:10 | ashimema | good morning #koha |
| 09:11 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
| 09:11 | hey ashimema | |
| 09:11 | wahanui | ashimema is on qa now .) |
| 09:14 | LibraryClaire | @wunder LCY |
| 09:14 | huginn` | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London Borough of Newham, Upton Park, London, United Kingdom is -2.2°C (9:13 AM GMT on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:14 | cait | morning ashimema :) |
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| 09:31 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 09:39 | * Francesca | has a job! |
| 09:40 | should also be sleeping but is too excited about said job | |
| 09:42 | LibraryClaire | congrats! :) |
| 09:42 | Francesca | thanks :) |
| 09:45 | cait | congrats! |
| 09:45 | What's your job about? :) | |
| 09:46 | Francesca | I am a junior developer with koha (suprise) |
| 09:46 | basically everythings offical now | |
| 09:47 | drojf | awesome. best project to work at :D |
| 09:47 | Francesca | same as before but I'm no longer a volunteer |
| 09:47 | drojf: I agree | |
| 09:47 | cait | :) |
| 09:47 | very cool :) | |
| 09:47 | but aren't you still studying too? | |
| 09:47 | Francesca | yup its part-time |
| 09:47 | uni is full time study | |
| 09:47 | cait | congratulations again :) |
| 09:48 | Francesca | thanks :) |
| 09:52 | LibraryClaire | awesome :) |
| 09:56 | andreashm | ok community, a question for you. I've always thought that someone sponsoring a patch should not sign off on it, but have now been told otherwise by members of the community. (that only persons from the same company/institution should sign off) thoughts on this? |
| 09:57 | LibraryClaire | I was going to ask the same question |
| 09:57 | cait | hm i think the second part i'd disagree with |
| 09:58 | if a patch is submitted - someone from outside the company/instutiion signing off is totally fine by me :) | |
| 09:58 | strictly speaking it's allowed | |
| 09:58 | but i think it's usually nicer if you get an independent tester too | |
| 09:58 | andreashm | ah, I wrote that wrong... I meant that perons from the same company/inst should NOT sign off |
| 09:58 | but ok with sponsored patches? | |
| 09:59 | cait | it's kind of a grey area, but it's possible |
| 09:59 | andreashm | that will make our lives easier if we can sign-off on the things we sponsor... since we test them anyway. |
| 09:59 | drojf | its grey? i thought its no |
| 09:59 | andreashm | drojf: that what I thought too. But heard otherwise from a few ppl by now. |
| 10:00 | that's | |
| 10:00 | cait | let me see if i can find some docs |
| 10:02 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]elopment_workflow | |
| 10:03 | Patch signer should not be patch writer. Preferably, patch writer and patch signer should not be from the same company or institution. | |
| 10:03 | andreashm | cait: just read that. |
| 10:03 | I interpret that as a sponsor can be patch signer, but not someone from company/institution | |
| 10:04 | cait | there is mor info in one of the meeting logs... but have no time to dig that up now |
| 10:05 | davidnind | See also item 8 - http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eptance/Rejection |
| 10:06 | cait | hm i think that's a bit older - should be cleaned up a bit (version numbes...) :) |
| 10:11 | davidnind++ | |
| 10:11 | i think we probably should review all our 'worflow' pages on the wiki sometime | |
| 10:12 | andreashm | might be a good idea |
| 10:13 | davidnind | will take a look over the next few days, may end up asking some questions to clarify, especially as I'm not a developer... |
| 10:14 | should also probably add as a 'bug' to Bugzilla | |
| 10:16 | also, I thought the general rule was that if you developed a patch, then someone from the same organisation/company could not sign-off on it | |
| 10:17 | andreashm | davidnind: yes. but the question here is if something sponsored (developed by another company/institution) can be signed off |
| 10:17 | LibraryClaire | I was curious about ones where it specifically states that we have sponsored it, but the developer is not from the same institution |
| 10:18 | andreashm | libraryclaire: yeah, not all of our sponsored patches mentioned that they've been sponsored. |
| 10:19 | as long as this is clear in the notes it should be ok? the qa can ask for a second sign-off if they think it is needed? | |
| 10:22 | davidnind | I don't think that nuance is covered in the links so far, although I'm sure it has probably been discussed before (will do some research in the IRC logs) |
| 10:23 | andreashm | davidnind: cait had some more info on this, you can check with her also |
| 10:23 | drojf | in general, if you got patches waiting it would be awesome to sign off on others. then signoffers have more time for the others |
| 10:24 | (or yours) | |
| 10:24 | davidnind | I also think that overriding rationale from the community's perspective is that a sponsoring organisation is not signing-off patches (whether developed by them or not) without 'proper' testing and review |
| 10:24 | LibraryClaire | that was my assumption |
| 10:28 | andreashm | of course patches would need to be tested and reviewed, no matter who signs off |
| 10:29 | cait | davidnind: i think a meeting around the time of the kohacon in argentina covered some of that question |
| 10:30 | andreashm | drojf: that's probably the best rationale, from a community standpoint. |
| 10:37 | davidnind | will have look when I'm a bit fresher tomorrow - think I need to learn how to improve my searching skills! |
| 10:39 | cait | me too ) |
| 10:40 | it's not so easy to find something in lengthy discussions | |
| 10:41 | davidnind | it's like looking for a needle in a haystack (not that I've ever tried though) |
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| 10:51 | cait | lunch - bbiab |
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| 10:57 | drojf | later #koha |
| 11:17 | Joubu | khall: did you get my later about bug 15295? |
| 11:17 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15295 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move the C4::Branch related code to Koha::Libraries - part 2 |
| 11:17 | khall | not yet |
| 11:17 | there it is! | |
| 11:17 | Joubu | maybe I should ask bad, he is the one who pushed the patchset |
| 11:17 | bag | |
| 11:17 | khall | Joubu: now worries, I can do it |
| 11:17 | Joubu | ok thanks |
| 11:18 | khall | np! |
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| 11:55 | cait | back |
| 11:55 | we got quite a few patches that are urgent for the stable releases i think | |
| 11:56 | in the pqa queue | |
| 11:56 | jajm already called string freeze - only a week now | |
| 11:58 | Catalyst Academy is on this week - can we get some sign-offs? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Catalyst_Academy | |
| 11:59 | the "writing patches" section mostly needs a sign-off now i think, they have been super busy last night | |
| 12:04 | LibraryClaire | so far I'm just failing to get a sandbox set up /headdesk |
| 12:04 | cait | hm want to share the steps with us? either it suddenly starts working (because we are watching) or we can help :) |
| 12:06 | LibraryClaire | I filled out the details and gave it a bug number and my email etc. It said the request was sent and it would email me |
| 12:06 | the video by Bywater suggested that sometimes an email doesn't come through so worth refreshing the page to see if your details update as the person last using a setup | |
| 12:07 | cait | hm sounds reasonable |
| 12:07 | LibraryClaire | it went from someone using it in May 15 to someone using it in Jan 15 to now noone using it |
| 12:07 | cait | hm |
| 12:07 | * LibraryClaire | hits refresh |
| 12:08 | LibraryClaire | now it's back to Jan '15 |
| 12:11 | ooh, it's me now | |
| 12:28 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 12:28 | huginn` | jcamins: The current temperature in Cedar Grove Cemetery, Flushing, New York, New York is -8.9°C (7:18 AM EST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:30 | Amit_Gupta | @wunder bangalore |
| 12:30 | huginn` | Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 25.0°C (5:30 PM IST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. |
| 12:30 | Amit_Gupta | @wunder kolkata |
| 12:30 | huginn` | Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 24.0°C (6:00 PM IST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:33 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15586 - References to Koha::Branches remain in unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87597d0ce72645d07> / Bug 15295: (follow-up) Koha::Libraries - Remove GetBranchesCount <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1a27cb51702e416cf> | |
| 12:41 | cait | @later tell drojf 3.22 is translated, but not checked yet |
| 12:41 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:45 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:48 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
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| 12:53 | oleonard | Joubu: I'm looking at 15269 now |
| 12:54 | Joubu | thanks oleonard! |
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| 13:01 | cait | bug 15269 |
| 13:01 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15269 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jen, Needs Signoff , Layout tweaks for the opac-detail page |
| 13:01 | cait | :) |
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| 13:34 | misilot | is the minimum grace period only in days? |
| 13:34 | cait | misilot: yes, i think currently only days |
| 13:34 | misilot | ok thanks :) |
| 13:39 | oleonard | Why no grace period in seconds? |
| 13:39 | @quote get 123 | |
| 13:39 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 13:39 | huginn` | oleonard: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 13:39 | misilot | i would be happy with hours :) |
| 13:39 | or minutes ... since I would like a 30 minute checkout anyways :) | |
| 13:39 | oleonard | misilot: It does seem like a gap in what should be available given hourly loans are possible |
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| 13:45 | cait | i didn't find the bug i was thinking about, maybe it's worth a retest |
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| 13:52 | * oleonard | wonders why he isn't seeing shelving location in the OPAC |
| 13:57 | kidclamp | On the details page oleonard? |
| 13:57 | oleonard | Yes. Testing in master. |
| 13:57 | cait | hm |
| 13:57 | i can test on 3.22 - one sec | |
| 13:58 | hm shows for me in 3.22 | |
| 13:58 | kidclamp | I see it in master |
| 13:59 | * cait | wonders if it's possible that the langage {langcode} option for xslt files is broken? |
| 14:00 | oleonard | weird. |
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| 14:06 | cait | hm no. the file is no longer being translated :( it worked in 3.18... need to find out what happens in the translation script *shudders* |
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| 14:15 | oleonard | A fun prank is to put all the itemtypes into OpacHiddenItems |
| 14:15 | cait | hm, lots of empty result lists? |
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| 14:48 | drojf | hello again |
| 14:49 | cait | oleonard++ mailing list this time |
| 14:49 | I was thinking about a similar answer | |
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| 14:56 | oleonard | Every time these discussions come up I'm grateful my library doesn't have crazy-complex circulation rules. |
| 14:56 | cait | :) |
| 14:56 | oleonard | I would settle for hold limits working. |
| 14:57 | cait | in general.... eveything we advertise shoudl work |
| 14:57 | drojf | cait++ |
| 14:57 | will check tonight | |
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| 15:00 | cait | drojf: thx! not sure i will get to do 3.20 - this took wy longer than i had expected today |
| 15:00 | drojf | i will have a look |
| 15:11 | 1254 words. that seems a lot | |
| 15:12 | cait | yeah, was about 1300 for 3.22 too |
| 15:12 | drojf | why? how can there be so much changes? |
| 15:13 | cait | ok...we have custom xslt stylesheets... and they got translated with the standard procedure so far and are in the same directory as the normal xslt files... but it doesn't seem to work with 3.22 anymore opposed to 3.18 :( |
| 15:13 | anyone seen this or has an idea? | |
| 15:13 | drojf: the string fixes from mveron is my guess :) | |
| 15:13 | he fixed all the splitted up strings with links etc. | |
| 15:13 | drojf | ah |
| 15:13 | Joubu | khall, bag: patches on bug 15601 prevent TestBuilder tests failing |
| 15:13 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15601 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , TestBuilder tests are failing |
| 15:13 | drojf | awesome |
| 15:13 | just not now :D | |
| 15:14 | Joubu | (only 1 patch actually) |
| 15:14 | khall | Joubu: I'll qa that asap |
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| 15:14 | misilot | hey I figure I would ask before I go down the road of working on a plugin. Does anyone have a plugin that copies permissions from one user to another? |
| 15:15 | Joubu | cait: do you have an example? |
| 15:16 | cait | Joubu: it's a custom xslt file, based on the standard one |
| 15:16 | we need it in english and german - so far it just got translated with the other files | |
| 15:16 | not it gets copied, butnot translated | |
| 15:16 | so the file in the 'de-DE' directory remains english | |
| 15:17 | my guess is something has changed with the translation scripts... but i have no idea yet | |
| 15:18 | Joubu | What's the path of the xsl file? |
| 15:18 | cait | it's right with the other xslt files |
| 15:18 | koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/de-DE or en/xslt/... | |
| 15:21 | same permissions as the other files... and it does get copied from en with the translation process, but not translated | |
| 15:25 | Joubu | cait: the strings are in po/fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po |
| 15:26 | cait: works for me | |
| 15:27 | cait | did you try to translate a copy of the standard xslt? |
| 15:27 | Joubu | I can detail if needed, but confirm you have translated the strings in de-DE-marc-UNIMARC.po |
| 15:27 | opac: cp UNIMARCslim2OPACDetail.xsl UNIMARCslim2OPACDetail_TEST.xsl | |
| 15:27 | cait | hm |
| 15:27 | did you run an update to the po files? | |
| 15:27 | Joubu | then modify a string "Main Author" => "Main Author TEST" |
| 15:27 | cait | i will try that then i guess |
| 15:27 | i think we didn't in the past - but i might have missed it | |
| 15:28 | no new strings introduced - just some other changes | |
| 15:28 | the custom file remains completely untranslated for me - not only the additions | |
| 15:29 | the standard files work | |
| 15:29 | Joubu | then translate it "Auteur principal TEST", then install |
| 15:30 | and I have the translated string in the *_TEST.xsl file | |
| 15:31 | cait | thx a lot Joubu |
| 15:31 | maybe i just missed a step in my documentation | |
| 15:35 | drojf | cait: do we say staat, not land in the patrons module? |
| 15:41 | cait | i think staat - becuase a coworker once convinced me land was not correct |
| 15:46 | drojf | probably right, but i have never seen that used as an address label |
| 15:52 | cait | probably right too |
| 15:52 | can i ask not to change it because that means i don't hve to change all the privacy documentation again? :) | |
| 15:56 | drojf | heh. i did not change it. i saw that it was used more than oncd so i left it |
| 15:56 | *once | |
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| 16:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:05 | cait | drojf: i think i translated land today... in the prefs... for address format |
| 16:05 | *sighs* thinking about it | |
| 16:06 | drojf | heh |
| 16:07 | "Number of records used in:: %s" | |
| 16:07 | is there a reason other than a typo to have :: | |
| 16:07 | cait | i filed a bug for that :) |
| 16:07 | drojf | ? |
| 16:07 | ah | |
| 16:07 | :) | |
| 16:07 | cait | for the academy |
| 16:08 | drojf | cool |
| 16:08 | cait | i later thought... we should change translation too |
| 16:08 | do you have it open by chance? | |
| 16:08 | and the translation is a little weird maybe | |
| 16:08 | drojf | mine is too |
| 16:09 | we have two | |
| 16:09 | Number of records used in: %s Anzahl der Vormerkungen: | |
| 16:09 | Number of records used in:: %s Anzahl verwendeter Datensätze in: %s | |
| 16:09 | i did the second just now, i did not see the other | |
| 16:09 | cait | i think it needs to be changed actually |
| 16:09 | drojf | which one? |
| 16:09 | wahanui | i heard which one was t? |
| 16:09 | cait | both :) |
| 16:10 | it's the number of records that use the authority | |
| 16:10 | i think | |
| 16:11 | drojf | so the english one should be changed too? :D |
| 16:11 | cait | i think maybe |
| 16:12 | does the file match? or is it on another page | |
| 16:12 | Number of records using this authority: ? | |
| 16:12 | Number of bibliographic records linked? | |
| 16:13 | oleonard++ signing off academy patches :) | |
| 16:13 | drojf | i only see used in/verwendet in |
| 16:13 | in your link | |
| 16:13 | cait | yeah, that's 3.20.1 - before |
| 16:14 | but i think that's the right spot :) | |
| 16:14 | drojf | yes looks like it |
| 16:14 | wahanui | Can we get some hard data on that? |
| 16:14 | drojf | i think it makes sense in english |
| 16:15 | should i just take "Verwendet in? | |
| 16:15 | cait | hm sounds good |
| 16:15 | wonder why there are 2 occurrences - there must be another spot | |
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| 16:35 | * oleonard | steals an academy bug... sorry academy! |
| 16:43 | cait | thx oleonard :) |
| 16:58 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 17:01 | LibraryClaire | bye |
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| 17:16 | cait | Joubu: found the answer for my xslt behaviour change - we added marc flavour po files since 3.18 - I think I know now how to fix :) |
| 17:17 | oleonard: thx a lto for that patch! | |
| 17:18 | Joubu | cait: good to hear that |
| 17:19 | cait | Joubu: the files got picked up in opac/staff po files - where the strings don't exist |
| 17:22 | all i need to do is to change the file name to start with MARC21 :) | |
| 17:22 | bye all :) | |
| 17:23 | Joubu | same for me, see you tomorrow! |
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| 17:30 | oleonard | Okay, added 4 new academy bugs to make up for the one I stole. |
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| 18:36 | eythian | I suppose it is the job of a programmer to add bugs to software, but you shouldn't do it knowingly. |
| 18:38 | liw | eythian, so that's what I've always been doing wrong... |
| 18:38 | eythian | Oh. Well, this is awkward. |
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| 18:43 | mtompset | @seen cait |
| 18:43 | huginn` | mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 20 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <cait> bye all :) |
| 18:46 | rangi | oh cool, a bunch of the academy patches have passed qa :) |
| 18:46 | i wonder if bag is around today? | |
| 18:46 | pianohacker | rangi: out this week, but I can push 'em |
| 18:47 | rangi: do you have a list? | |
| 18:47 | cait | pianohacker: out all week? |
| 18:47 | rangi | 2 secs |
| 18:47 | cait | maybe it would be good to have someone take a look at the evil bugs then |
| 18:47 | for the stable releases | |
| 18:48 | pianohacker | cait: to my understanding |
| 18:48 | cait: how do you mean? | |
| 18:48 | cait | there are evil bugs hat should be fixed in stable releases |
| 18:48 | which are released next week | |
| 18:48 | rangi | and they are in passed qa now cait ? |
| 18:48 | cait | but need to be pushed to master first |
| 18:48 | yep | |
| 18:48 | 15572 | |
| 18:49 | broken auth creation | |
| 18:49 | bug 15570 - broken renewal | |
| 18:49 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15570 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , circ/renew.pl is broken |
| 18:51 | mtompset | cait: How can I duplicate bug 14613? I don't get any issues which force the send cancel buttons below such that a scroll is needed. |
| 18:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14613 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Send cart window is too small in staff and hides 'send' button |
| 18:51 | mtompset | I attempted with firefox and chrome. |
| 18:51 | cait | bug 15354 |
| 18:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15354 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , item types aren't showing in default hold policies |
| 18:51 | pianohacker | ah, it was bug 15462 I was thinking of that had been pushed |
| 18:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15462 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Unable to renew books via circ/renew.pl |
| 18:52 | cait | mtompset: i can't test right now sorry - are you checking staff? |
| 18:52 | rangi | mtompset: id just notice the window is now bigger, but not huge |
| 18:52 | pianohacker | cait: unfortunately, I passed QA on bug 15354; you'll have to poke khall |
| 18:52 | mtompset | I can sign off... no biggie, but the initial problem isn't there. |
| 18:53 | rangi | it'll be to do with font size etc on the browser |
| 18:53 | mtompset | Ah... thanks for that idea |
| 18:53 | cait | that's possible |
| 18:54 | i thnk it happened in firefox for me - might also be translation making things a bit longer or break differently | |
| 18:54 | rangi | thats possible too |
| 18:54 | mtompset | THERE IT IS! |
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| 18:55 | cait | sadly we still need to fix authority merge :( |
| 18:55 | bug 15358 | |
| 18:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15358 blocker, P1 - high, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , merge.pl does not populate values to merge |
| 18:56 | rangi | pianohacker: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]yst_Academy#Day_1 <-- lower priority than the nasty bugs of course .. ill try to keep this page updated (there will be a day 2 section starting today) |
| 18:56 | pianohacker: thanks | |
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| 18:57 | rangi | oleonard++ #for adding new bugs |
| 18:57 | pianohacker | rangi: happy to help |
| 18:57 | rangi | mtompset++ # for signing off |
| 18:57 | Joubu++ # for qaing | |
| 18:57 | and | |
| 18:58 | pianohacker | I'll spend an hour or so later pushing the breakers first and then push as many academy bugs as I can |
| 18:58 | rangi | pianohacker++ # for being an awesome role model for the academy kids to aspire to |
| 18:58 | cait | pianohacker++ :) |
| 18:58 | pianohacker | :D |
| 19:11 | eythian | rangi: no! Don't ++ him for adding guys, you're encouraging bad behaviour! |
| 19:11 | Err | |
| 19:11 | Adding bugs | |
| 19:12 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:12 | liw: http://www.customink.com/lab?c[…]dy_txt-_-viewlink | |
| 19:12 | liw | rangi, hehe |
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| 19:50 | oleonard | Bye all. Good luck Academy! |
| 19:50 | cait joined #koha | |
| 19:51 | cait | back |
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| 19:53 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 19:53 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 1.0°C (8:49 PM CET on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:53 | eythian | Yay, >0 |
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| 19:55 | * Francesca | waves at eythian |
| 19:56 | eythian | Hi Francesca and aleisha |
| 19:56 | aleisha | hi eythian |
| 19:56 | Francesca | hey |
| 19:56 | looks a bit warmer where you are than last time we spoke | |
| 19:57 | eythian | Marginally |
| 19:57 | I have a woolen jacket and a scarf though, that counts for a lot. | |
| 19:58 | Francesca | I can imagine |
| 19:59 | aleisha | rangi: what's the link to the bugs the koha group is working on? |
| 19:59 | eythian | The canals haven't frozen though, so I don't think it counts as a proper winter. |
| 20:07 | Francesca | 1 degree isn't counted as a proper winter? |
| 20:07 | wow | |
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| 20:17 | pastebot | "natasha" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Removing christmas theme" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/260 |
| 20:19 | Francesca | rangi: thats the code for removing the xmas theme from the dashboard |
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| 20:20 | ibeardslee | #koha++ # for being awesome helping the Academy |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 20:34 | aleisha | \o/ x2 |
| 20:35 | pastebot | "natasha" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Fixing nav issues for scoreboard (centering text)" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/261 |
| 20:36 | Francesca | wahanui cats |
| 20:36 | wahanui | The only good cat is a stir-fried cat. |
| 20:36 | Francesca | wahanui literal cat |
| 20:36 | wahanui | Francesca: cat =is= http://www.nyan.cat/ |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66047 |
| 20:46 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Quail Ridge East, Lawrence, Kansas is -4.4°C (2:39 PM CST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 9 PM CST this evening... |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | hm that's not as cold as I thought it would be there. |
| 20:46 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 20:47 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (9:30 AM NZDT on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | (people were complaining about windshields cracking in the cold - I was like "how cold does it have to be to have THAT crazy problem") |
| 20:48 | * Francesca | has introduced the koha academy people to wahanui |
| 20:53 | cait | @later tell khall can you please check 14695? patchs have no sign off line but bug is set to signed off |
| 20:53 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:11 | natasha | gandalf - koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools/export.tt |
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| 21:18 | cbrannon | Could someone confirm, does items.itemnotes_nonpublic exist? Schema says yes, Koha says no. |
| 21:20 | pianohacker | cbrannon: I think it's a pretty recent addition |
| 21:22 | cbrannon: see bug 13023 for details; it's in 3.20+ | |
| 21:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13023 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Nonpublic note for items should be mapped to a database column like itemnotes |
| 21:22 | cbrannon | Do you know where it is mapped currently? |
| 21:23 | kidclamp | not :-) you can get it through moresubfieldsxml I think |
| 21:23 | pianohacker | cbrannon: it was an unmapped item subfield, so it's only in more_subfields_xml (you have to use ExtractValue) |
| 21:23 | kidclamp | for reports cbrannon |
| 21:23 | pianohacker | yup yup |
| 21:23 | kidclamp | jinx! |
| 21:23 | cbrannon | Thanks |
| 21:24 | * Francesca | waves at pianohacker |
| 21:26 | pianohacker | hi Francesca :) |
| 21:27 | Francesca | hey :) long time no see/speak |
| 21:27 | pianohacker | yup |
| 21:27 | I've been pretty quiet in #koha, holidays and all | |
| 21:27 | Francesca | mmm I'm on holiday too |
| 21:29 | pianohacker | still? dang |
| 21:29 | I started teaching last wednesday | |
| 21:31 | Francesca | I dont go back till the end of feb |
| 21:31 | pianohacker | wow. |
| 21:31 | Francesca | its awesome |
| 21:31 | pianohacker | oh, right, this would be summer break for you |
| 21:31 | Francesca | feels like I've been on holiday forever |
| 21:31 | yup thats right | |
| 21:32 | pianohacker | @wunder Wellington, NZ |
| 21:32 | huginn` | pianohacker: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:33 | pianohacker | ugh I'd kill for that weather... |
| 21:33 | @wunder 80401 | |
| 21:33 | huginn` | pianohacker: The current temperature in 16 1/2 St & Washington Ave, Golden, Colorado is 5.4°C (2:32 PM MST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:37 | Francesca | brrrr cold |
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| 21:42 | rangi | natasha: dashboard.koha-community.org |
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| 21:53 | wizzyrea | francesca: http://taiga.koha-community.or[…]cements-catalyst/ |
| 21:53 | barton | pianohacker: does the zipcode 80401 *actually* resolve to 16 1/2 St & Washington Ave, Golden, Colorado? |
| 21:53 | cait | @wunder 80401 |
| 21:53 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in 16 1/2 St & Washington Ave, Golden, Colorado is 5.5°C (2:53 PM MST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:54 | cait | oh, you already did that |
| 21:54 | * cait | goes to try and do something useful |
| 21:54 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 21:54 | huginn` | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 28.0°C (8:30 AM AEDT on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:55 | * barton | thinks that cait has a higher probability of doing something useful than most people he knows. |
| 21:55 | dcook | ^ |
| 21:55 | cait | *hides* |
| 21:57 | pianohacker | barton: well, it's in that zipcode, but I think the only thing of note right there is a random person's weather station :) https://www.google.com/maps/pl[…]xead28743552dae66 |
| 21:57 | barton | ah, I guess that makes sense. |
| 22:00 | pianohacker | I was thinking a bus station, but even that's a block away |
| 22:01 | barton | so, as I am wont to about this time of day .... I have a zebra question ... |
| 22:02 | dcook | I'm still waking up and unable to avoid things, so I'm keen |
| 22:02 | About Zebra that is | |
| 22:05 | barton | we have a library who who is moving from one version of zebra to another. They have some bibs with titles in Chinese. On their old system (which I don't have admin access to), when they search, they can search with the idiograms next to each other. On our system, they must be separated by spaces. I'm not sure what the difference is. |
| 22:07 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15572: Add tests for TransformHtmlToMarc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9d73bf2323ab4fd67> / Bug 15572: Follow-up to fix error on authority creation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]99c1bc0883bc444e0> / Bug 15572: TransformHtmlToMarc - rewrite the loop <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=koha.git;a=commi |
| 22:07 | cait | barton: can you give an example? |
| 22:08 | thx pianohacker :) | |
| 22:09 | barton | cait well, I can try -- I'm using irssi for IRC -- I know that it won't properly *display* multibyte characters, but it might transmit them .... |
| 22:09 | pianohacker | cait: just pushed bug 15570 as well; can't push bug 15534 |
| 22:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15570 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , circ/renew.pl is broken |
| 22:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add the ability to prevent a patron from placing a hold on a record with available items | |
| 22:09 | pianohacker | woops |
| 22:09 | bug 15354 | |
| 22:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15354 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , item types aren't showing in default hold policies |
| 22:10 | barton | The title in question is "心意更新" |
| 22:10 | cait | pianohacker: i can give it another check |
| 22:10 | / sign off | |
| 22:10 | pianohacker | cait: it's passed qa |
| 22:10 | cait | give me a few minutes? |
| 22:10 | pianohacker | but I'm the one who made it that way :) |
| 22:10 | cait | yeah :) so i am stepping in for you |
| 22:10 | pianohacker | ohhhh kk |
| 22:10 | cait: yeah, no rush. Just ping me whenever it's pushable. Thanks! | |
| 22:11 | cait | just finished another patch - will start with it right now |
| 22:12 | barton: and they need to put spaces between the signs? | |
| 22:12 | barton | ^^ did that display correctly? it looks like line noise to me, not chinese. |
| 22:12 | pianohacker | barton: yar |
| 22:12 | cait | looks fine here :) |
| 22:12 | pianohacker | cait: yar |
| 22:12 | barton | cait: yes. when they separate those by spaces, it returns results. |
| 22:12 | cait | correct results? |
| 22:13 | pianohacker: hm i have another that would be good | |
| 22:13 | bug 15568 | |
| 22:13 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15568 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Circ rules are not displayed anymore |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | well that's a pretty terrible bug. |
| 22:14 | barton | cait yes, the search results were correct with spaces. |
| 22:14 | dcook | Jeez, a person looks away for a second, and suddenly there's so much scrollback.. |
| 22:15 | barton | ikr, dcood. |
| 22:15 | *dcook | |
| 22:15 | [or dood, of you prefer] | |
| 22:15 | dcook | dcook :p |
| 22:16 | Search results correct with spaces.. | |
| 22:16 | Are they using ICU? | |
| 22:16 | barton | yes. |
| 22:16 | cait | have you compared your config file with theirs? |
| 22:16 | dcook | Ah right and you have no access.. |
| 22:16 | barton | larrb checked their icu settings, said that everythign looked right... |
| 22:16 | cait | hm |
| 22:17 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15570: (follow-up) Bug 11944 Remove all utf8 filter from templates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]59a593ed28c433798> |
| 22:17 | dcook | I'd look at what's happening in yaz-client |
| 22:17 | And what sort of searches are being done | |
| 22:17 | barton | I know that in certain contexts, ccl.properties can control how spaces are parsed. I may look at that, but I have a feeling that there's omethign else involved. |
| 22:17 | dcook | Both in terms of the CCL qualifiers and wwhat version of Zebra |
| 22:17 | O_o | |
| 22:18 | I would doubt that ccl.properties would play any role | |
| 22:18 | Are the searches being done in Koha or yaz-client? | |
| 22:18 | Because Koha loves to mess with search queries | |
| 22:18 | barton | heh. |
| 22:18 | Yeah, just koha so far. | |
| 22:19 | dcook | Yeah, it's a shame you don't have access to their system |
| 22:20 | Are they doing wrdl, phrase, or some other search? | |
| 22:20 | barton | I'll dig into it further... it's just that this sounded *really* familiar. |
| 22:20 | dcook | ICU certainly likes to play with spaces, but yeah we don't do anything with CJK ourselves so no idea :/ |
| 22:20 | We're mostly English, French, Arabic over here | |
| 22:21 | barton | dcook: right now, I'm mostly looking at screenshots that the partner has given me -- it seems like keyword search -- ie wrdl. |
| 22:21 | owait -- no, they were doing a title search. | |
| 22:24 | cait | pianohacker: without the circ rules one you can't test the patch on master it seems |
| 22:25 | pianohacker | cait: without bug 15568 you can't test bug 15354, you're saying |
| 22:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15568 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Circ rules are not displayed anymore |
| 22:25 | pianohacker | ? |
| 22:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15354 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , item types aren't showing in default hold policies |
| 22:25 | cait | yeah, at least i couldn't |
| 22:25 | big perl error | |
| 22:25 | pianohacker | cait: kk, pushin' |
| 22:25 | cait | test first :) |
| 22:25 | pianohacker | cait: did |
| 22:25 | cait: wait, perl error? | |
| 22:25 | ;_; | |
| 22:25 | all I got was no rules displaying | |
| 22:25 | cait | yeah for me it exploded - didn#t do that yesterday when i tested it the first time... |
| 22:25 | pianohacker | can you pastebin? |
| 22:25 | cait | hm i can try to make it explode again, sec |
| 22:26 | barton | ^^ see what I mean about cait dong useful things? |
| 22:26 | pianohacker | making me doubt my sanity is useful but scary |
| 22:27 | dcook | barton: I recently learned a neat ICU trick. Let me see if I can recall it. It might help you. |
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| 22:27 | barton | neat_icu_trick++ |
| 22:28 | cait | pianohacker: 15354 is signed off... now working on the explosions |
| 22:28 | dcook | Well, maybe not a trick, but a tool |
| 22:28 | echo 心意更新 | yaz-icu -c etc/zebradb/etc/words-icu.xml | |
| 22:28 | Your path might be different.. | |
| 22:29 | I should be using the latest words-icu.xml | |
| 22:29 | It looks like it tokenizes that string into 4 separate tokens which I suspect would be what you want.. | |
| 22:29 | barton | huh. interesting. I'll give that a shot. |
| 22:29 | cait | pianohacker: not exploding now... must be something weird again |
| 22:29 | pianohacker | you can't see my nope face right now |
| 22:30 | so just, you know, imagine it | |
| 22:30 | cait: so you think I can push 15568 then 15354 ? | |
| 22:31 | dcook | barton: Using phrases-icu.xml is slightly different... I'll put it in paste |
| 22:31 | cait | i am a bit ... annoyed... that the perl error won't show up again |
| 22:31 | if you think the patches are good i think you can, i will keep poking it a bit longer | |
| 22:31 | * pianohacker | tries to channel his inner bag |
| 22:31 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ICU stuffz" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/262 |
| 22:32 | dcook | Interesting. paste didn't like some of those characters.. |
| 22:32 | cait | i think the worst one was the authorities patch |
| 22:33 | pianohacker | puuuuuuuuuuuushed |
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| 22:33 | pianohacker | okay, now 15354 |
| 22:35 | cait: ... should I sign off again like I usually do before pushing? | |
| 22:35 | cait | hm good question |
| 22:36 | i don't have an opinion about that i think :) | |
| 22:36 | pianohacker | cait: I guess the pushing-to-master signoff is just so people know who pushed it |
| 22:36 | so why not | |
| 22:36 | cait | true |
| 22:37 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15568: Fix display default circ rules <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0d4562f6a99fcee70> |
| 22:39 | pianohacker | and pushed |
| 22:39 | cait | :) |
| 22:41 | Catalyst Academy hackers: please remember to assign the bugs to yourself when you start working on them and latest when you upload your patches :) | |
| 22:42 | dcook | barton: I think the last thing has to do with a newline not being processed correctly |
| 22:44 | barton | Yeah, I saw that in the output; that was my guess as well... I think that at this point I need to do a lot more research before I can ask intelligent questions about it. |
| 22:46 | dcook | Give me SSH access to your server, and I might nut it out :p |
| 22:46 | But no don't do that. I have too many other things to do :p | |
| 22:46 | pianohacker | dcook: yeah, that's far too tempting of an offer :) |
| 22:47 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15354: (QA followup) remove tab character <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]49ddc3785a22c488a> / Bug 15354: Sort itemtypes by translated description everywhere on circ rules admin... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]df83e15e587f7b21a> / Bug 15354: Fix translated itemtype descriptions in circ rules <http://git.ko |
| 22:47 | dcook | pianohacker: Haha. Nice to hear that :) |
| 22:47 | barton | pianohacker: I won't tell larryb you said that. |
| 22:48 | JoshB left #koha | |
| 22:48 | dcook | Oh, another useful thing.. |
| 22:48 | I think I posted about it on the listserv | |
| 22:48 | If you can increase Zebra's verbosity, you can tail the zebrasrv logs and that may be a huge help | |
| 22:49 | pianohacker | barton: honestly, if it unmucks Zebra, even he might not mind |
| 22:50 | dcook | Zebrasrv will tell you what queries are coming your way, yaz-icu can tell you how the ICU indexing is working, and... yaz-client can tell you what's been indexed |
| 22:50 | That should give you everything you need to know I would think | |
| 22:50 | format xml, elements zebra::index ftw | |
| 22:50 | Oh, except with ICU.. | |
| 22:50 | pianohacker | amen |
| 22:50 | dcook | elements index |
| 22:50 | pianohacker | ? |
| 22:50 | ugh, zebra | |
| 22:50 | dcook | Oh wait.. |
| 22:50 | elements index just shows you the XSLT output.. | |
| 22:50 | zebra::index and ICU don't always seem to get along | |
| 22:50 | Yeah, ugh, zebra | |
| 22:51 | * barton | hides. |
| 22:51 | dcook | The fact that it works with spaces is encouraging |
| 22:51 | It means that you're not that far off | |
| 22:54 | barton | dcook actually I re-read the ticket, and ... um... the problem is a litle different than I first thought -- I'm gettig *too many* results when the ideographs are mushed together, then, seemingly, the right results when separated by spaces. Honestly I don't know if that makes the problem better or worse. |
| 22:55 | dcook | It makes it even more exciting! |
| 22:55 | barton | but don't worry about it tonight... my thinker's about shot. |
| 22:56 | dcook | I'm sure you'll figure it out :) |
| 22:56 | Well, not tonight | |
| 22:56 | Sleep is good | |
| 22:57 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14538: editing perl doc for CalcFine <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9d2be771bd5fa03e8> |
| 22:59 | barton | dcook; with appologies to Theodore Parker "The curve of barton's trouble-shooting is long, but it bends toward the correct answer" |
| 23:02 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:03 | aleisha | gandalf!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:04 | you figured it out!! | |
| 23:04 | pianohacker | cait: is there a preference you have to turn on to see Add messages for bug 14406? |
| 23:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14406 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, brianagreally, Passed QA , When adding messages in patron account, only first name is shown in pull down |
| 23:04 | cait | pianohacker: nope |
| 23:04 | go to the patron account in staff | |
| 23:04 | checkouts tagb | |
| 23:04 | tab | |
| 23:04 | on the left, there is a link add message | |
| 23:05 | ... the other left... i meant on the right | |
| 23:05 | Add a new message | |
| 23:05 | * Francesca | has found a loooong list of front end bugs |
| 23:05 | aleisha | gandalf: any chance you can do the same fix for the Export authority records tab? |
| 23:07 | pianohacker | cait: ohhh, circulation.pl, not the checkouts tab at the bottom of moremember.pl |
| 23:07 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14613: Send cart window is too small in staff and hides 'send' button <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4beb3a2a21122035d> |
| 23:07 | Francesca | gandalf++ for good bug fixing and the awesome nick |
| 23:08 | cait | pianohacker: found it? ) |
| 23:09 | pianohacker | cait: yeah |
| 23:09 | cait: your original bug mentioned the details tab so that threw me off | |
| 23:09 | cait | sorry for that |
| 23:10 | a library reported it, probably typed up quickly | |
| 23:10 | hm | |
| 23:10 | pianohacker | ? |
| 23:11 | cait | everyone wants my opinion on bug 14244.... but i'd be really happy if someone else could take a look too |
| 23:11 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14244 normal, P5 - low, ---, misilot, Signed Off , viewing a bib item's circ history requires circulation permissions |
| 23:11 | pianohacker | oh lordy |
| 23:12 | rangi: pushed a patch from each of the three | |
| 23:13 | cait: will take a look | |
| 23:13 | cait | I think I don't like it |
| 23:13 | because you see the patron information | |
| 23:13 | someone with circulate permission seesit anyway... | |
| 23:13 | but someone with catalog... well still sees some, but maybe not so much? | |
| 23:14 | rangi | thank you |
| 23:17 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14406: When adding messages in patron account, only first name is shown in pull... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dde8fa17104196fea> |
| 23:18 | cait | added my opinion - please feel free to disagree (bug 14244) |
| 23:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14244 normal, P5 - low, ---, misilot, Signed Off , viewing a bib item's circ history requires circulation permissions |
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| 23:19 | Francesca joined #koha | |
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| 23:26 | pastebot | "Francesca" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "adding alternating colours for scoreboard table" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/263 |
| 23:28 | rangi | checkout bug 15600 |
| 23:28 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15600 minor, P5 - low, ---, chloealabaster, Needs Signoff , System preferences broken toolbar looks broken |
| 23:28 | rangi | its pretty cool, and I didnt do any help |
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| 23:37 | wizzyrea | nice one! |
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