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| 00:11 | alex__ | Is it just as valid to use ("git format-patch -s --subject-prefix='PATCH] [SIGNED-OFF' origin/master") as ("git commit --amend -s " and "git bz attach -e xxxx HEAD") for signing off a patch to a bug because the result of the former resultant code is a bit ambiguous as to whether the patches have been signed off successfully as It just lists the patches below it. |
| 00:14 | wizzyrea | I'm not sure I follow but it could be because I haven't eaten :) |
| 00:14 | example? | |
| 00:14 | wahanui | i heard example was probably a status change |
| 00:15 | wizzyrea | forget example |
| 00:15 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot example |
| 00:22 | wizzyrea | rangi - is there something funky with bugzilla still? git bz seems cross |
| 00:23 | rangi | nope seems fine |
| 00:24 | cait1 | fine for me too |
| 00:29 | drojf | i could not attach a patch earlier tonight. it worked eventually, after trying a few times |
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| 00:31 | drojf | koha 3.16.15 with grs1 indexing and plack needs ~9 seconds for 1000 results on a raspi 2 |
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| 00:33 | cait1 | drojf: do I even want to ask about 3.22? |
| 00:34 | drojf | > 30. but i had it to 20 with some tweaks |
| 00:34 | koha 3.16.15 with grs1 and plack on a pi zero… :D … ~25 seconds for 1000 results | |
| 00:35 | cait1: i have not tried grs1 indexing on 3.22, that will probably be s few more seconds | |
| 00:35 | dcook | drojf has all the toys :p |
| 00:35 | * dcook | thought grs1 indexing wasn't even possible anymore |
| 00:36 | dcook | Or did we just not make it the main option? |
| 00:36 | Probably that.. | |
| 00:36 | wahanui | probably that is an issue with missing dependencies. |
| 00:36 | drojf | dcook: do http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_to_dom_indexing backwards ;) |
| 00:36 | maybe the relevant file is not there anymore in 3.22 | |
| 00:37 | pianohacker | I really hope the fix for these speed concerns isn't switching to grs1... |
| 00:37 | very painful tradeoff | |
| 00:37 | drojf | pianohacker: bug 15262 i think |
| 00:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15262 enhancement, P2, ---, mirko, NEW , Run Koha Run. Koha search should be fast again. |
| 00:38 | drojf | it is not. in the long run tcohen has better ideas, but there is probably more small stuff that could be done now |
| 00:40 | unfortunately it takes ages to go through Search.pm and find shortcuts for all the stuff that is done two or three times now | |
| 00:41 | cait1 | drojf++ |
| 00:42 | drojf | in the end… i think kohas performance is pretty ok on a regular server. and i don't know how relevant it is to optimize with today's hardware |
| 00:42 | dcook | Search.pm... ew |
| 00:42 | drojf | lol. indeed |
| 00:43 | dcook | Surely DOM can't be the problem, as Zebra is actually quite fast when using DOM. |
| 00:43 | It's definitely Koha that is slowing things down.. | |
| 00:43 | Err | |
| 00:43 | Probably not definitely..:P | |
| 00:43 | * dcook | doesn't want to talk in absolutes |
| 00:43 | waves to pianohacker and cait1 | |
| 00:43 | dcook | cait1: Did you see my post about the OAI stuff? |
| 00:43 | pianohacker | hi dcook |
| 00:44 | dcook | pianohacker: I don't have any relevant technical things to mention but hey! |
| 00:44 | cait1 | dcook: there has been so many... |
| 00:44 | i haven't reviewed them yet | |
| 00:44 | dcook | cait1: It's the only way I know how :p |
| 00:44 | drojf | XSLT processing seems slow. dbix also slows things down apparently, but it is less than what we lost in search speed after 3.16 |
| 00:44 | dcook | cait1: tl;dr. Basically, does the harvest really need to be done every 2-3 seconds? |
| 00:44 | pianohacker | drojf: I think plack is going to be a mixed blessing, as it'll make the OPAC fast enough in general that the inefficiencies in search feel more painful |
| 00:44 | dcook | ^ |
| 00:44 | cait1 | it's what the people i have talked to said was a normal range |
| 00:45 | dcook | LibXML can be pretty slow, so that might be where some pain is |
| 00:45 | DBIX is also pretty damn slow.. | |
| 00:45 | wahanui | okay, dcook. |
| 00:45 | dcook | cait1: Which people were they? |
| 00:45 | cait1 | but I think wht was meant was: check for changes |
| 00:45 | dcook | cait1: Because downloading 21 records takes 4 seconds in itself |
| 00:45 | cait1 | if you then queue them and they take a bi tlonger to get into Koha... |
| 00:45 | dcook | At least hitting a Swedish server from Aus |
| 00:45 | drojf | pianohacker: search got slow independent of plack. there was a huge speed improvement with plack in earlier versions. for search it is much less today |
| 00:45 | cait1 | it migh talso depend on how big the downloads are |
| 00:46 | dcook | cait1: Yeah, the downloads are of an arbitrary size. I think 4 records took about 1 second. |
| 00:46 | cait1 | i am still a bit confused by the need to query multiple targets... |
| 00:46 | dcook | So in theory, small downloads could be done quite quickly |
| 00:46 | cait1 | i think i'd only wnat that for non-overlapping record sets |
| 00:46 | like we do | |
| 00:46 | dcook | Yeah, that'll be a main use for it I think |
| 00:46 | cait1 | for example the national serials database is harvested into the unoin catalog via oai |
| 00:46 | dcook | Well, and other types of records |
| 00:46 | Having endpoints for biblios, holdings, auth | |
| 00:46 | cait1 | but that means that the record is only changed in the national database |
| 00:46 | pianohacker | drojf: right, but I'm saying that because plack will make everything else faster, search will seem even slower in comparison; that's why I think this is so important :) |
| 00:47 | dcook | drojf: What were the major causes for the slow downs? |
| 00:47 | drojf | ah i see :D |
| 00:47 | dcook | I know I saw a patch or two which seemed like good fixes.. |
| 00:47 | Like fetching sysprefs once in stead of 20 times | |
| 00:48 | Although surely that wouldn't have changed since 3.16.. | |
| 00:49 | Might be able to do some of the XSLT stuff at the Zebra end too... which would use libxml directly I imagine rather than going through LibXML Perl modules.. | |
| 00:49 | * dcook | stops rambling |
| 00:49 | drojf | dcook: we have a cache flushing issue apparently, due to a patch related to plack. it throws away all marc structure stuff (or the whole cache) all the time. at least that is waht it looked like. i gained 1/5 in search speed without it. the other thing was getting the sysprefs related to search for every result in a search instead of once per search |
| 00:49 | dcook | Ahhh right |
| 00:49 | drojf | with both i gain 1/3 |
| 00:49 | dcook | Wow.. |
| 00:49 | drojf++ | |
| 00:50 | drojf | but on a raspi, so YMMV on a real server ;) |
| 00:50 | dcook | True true |
| 00:50 | Although surely those gains on a raspi would translate quite well | |
| 00:50 | pianohacker | shouldn't it in theory be the job of the very few things that update sysprefs/frameworks to perform cache invalidation so the above is safe? |
| 00:50 | dcook | ^ |
| 00:51 | rangi | yeah sysprefs should be cached forever, or for a long time at least |
| 00:51 | and when you change them | |
| 00:51 | inject the value into the cache | |
| 00:51 | cait1 | that ^ |
| 00:51 | pleeease. | |
| 00:52 | drojf | yeah i think the problem was that marc structure was cached and when you changed a framework, it did not show. but then _that_ is the moment to flush _exactly that_ after a change, not everything and not all the time :) |
| 00:52 | rangi | you dont need to invalidate and make it refetch, you can just put the new value in, when you change it, stick it in the db, and in the cache in one go |
| 00:52 | drojf | or even better, do what rangi says |
| 00:53 | rangi | that was always my plan, but .. time |
| 00:53 | dcook | Sounds reasonable to moi |
| 00:53 | time is a jerk | |
| 00:53 | drojf | we don't have a maintainer for 3.16 anymore, do we? |
| 00:53 | pianohacker | rangi: I think that's 100% what we should do for sysprefs, but I'm worried that the complexity of the marc framework crap would make doing it more trouble than it's worth |
| 00:54 | cait1 | don't think so |
| 00:54 | drojf | damn. now that i figured out it is _the_ raspikoha version :D |
| 00:54 | cait1 | pianohacker: but we could invalidate it totally then maybe? |
| 00:54 | still better than throwing it out every time | |
| 00:54 | pianohacker | oh agreed |
| 00:55 | rangi | i think we save it as an object in the cache? |
| 00:55 | so we could just stick the new framework object in | |
| 00:55 | ie, dont try to be clever and cache it as bits | |
| 00:55 | if that makes sense? | |
| 00:56 | pianohacker | hmm. Come to think of it, is that what we do now? |
| 00:56 | * cait1 | nods |
| 00:57 | drojf | installing koha on a pi zero gave me segmentation faults. but a pre-installed sd card works. and its half the size of an arduino |
| 00:58 | pianohacker | and you can have a koha server inside an xbox controller :) |
| 00:58 | konami code to do a full zebra reindex | |
| 00:58 | drojf | lol |
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| 01:02 | drojf | i have not even tried nginx yet. that might help too |
| 01:03 | what timezone is letsencrypt in? that should be going live today | |
| 01:03 | cait1 | hm thought it already was? |
| 01:03 | drojf | san francisco |
| 01:03 | rangi | the beta is live cait1 |
| 01:04 | drojf | it was closed beta, now its open beta |
| 01:04 | cait1 | ah ok |
| 01:04 | drojf | so we can do all the hundreds of subdomains for our kohas :) |
| 01:04 | rangi | :) |
| 01:04 | dcook | :D |
| 01:08 | drojf | the other paul has a 3.8.24? i am pretty sure i could not find anything after 3.8.23 |
| 01:09 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7212dee3f5c955e64 |
| 01:09 | was the last one | |
| 01:10 | pianohacker | good night all |
| 01:11 | drojf | alright. was not really announced, was it? i only find paul referring to it |
| 01:12 | anyway "Works perfectly in 3.8.24 ... " is a really bad answer in almost 2016 :/ | |
| 01:13 | cait1 | yeah |
| 01:13 | my first question would be if she searches by location code | |
| 01:13 | and the second is, that only filling out the second field will always do a keyword search | |
| 01:13 | because that's a known bug | |
| 01:13 | rangi | yyeah, hes the only one |
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| 01:14 | wizzyrea | I'm going to call him on it. |
| 01:15 | rangi | im not sure it will make any difference |
| 01:15 | drojf | oh i wanted to write an email to greece. 2:15 is the best time for that |
| 01:15 | cait1 | bug 7607 |
| 01:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7607 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Advanced search: Index and search term don't match when leaving fields empty |
| 01:15 | wizzyrea | It won't but it might discourage others from doing the same. |
| 01:15 | drojf | did we agree on a date? now we agreed on waiting for the rm to be back and pick a date in december, right? |
| 01:15 | sorry, did 1000 things after that | |
| 01:16 | for next meeting i mean | |
| 01:16 | cait1 | yeah kind of agreed on that |
| 01:16 | but need to let the RM know I guess :) | |
| 01:16 | drojf | i silently agreed ;) |
| 01:16 | i want to have a pi zero koha self check machine for greece, so they better set a date ;( | |
| 01:16 | ;) | |
| 01:17 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:17 | * dcook | wants to go to Greece, but thinks baby is going to prevent him from doing that |
| 01:17 | dcook | Too many things to do in 2016 |
| 01:17 | * dcook | is a bit jealous of those folks who have "unlimited vacation" |
| 01:18 | cait1 | retired people? |
| 01:18 | dcook | The folk at Wordpress apparently have unlimited vacation |
| 01:19 | Well, the parent company Automattic | |
| 01:20 | Although I think it's widely known th at "unlimited vacation" actually usually means less vacation overall | |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea | I'm sure that if someone turned up 1 day a week and claimed the rest as vacation they'd not be cool with that. |
| 01:20 | dcook | As you're always thinking, "I can vacation any time I want" and then you never do |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea: I keep wondering if it's unlimited paid vacation... or just unlimited vacation | |
| 01:20 | Need to message those guys again... haha | |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea | yeah, probably more "you won't get fired if you're gone for 3 months" |
| 01:21 | "but we may not pay you for all of it" | |
| 01:21 | dcook | No idea. I think most people just work all the time. |
| 01:21 | Although I want to say they mentioned one guy who did seem to work a bit more spottily | |
| 01:21 | * dcook | would love to go to Greece and Canada next year.. |
| 01:21 | dcook | But I think the motherland is going to win out |
| 01:22 | Interesting: http://www.dailywritingtips.co[…]nd-or-fatherland/ | |
| 01:24 | drojf | email regarding kohacon 2016 dates sent |
| 01:24 | dcook | \o/ |
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| 01:41 | drojf | Time in San Francisco, California, United States 5:40 PM Wednesday December 2, 2015 |
| 01:41 | meh | |
| 01:42 | cait1 | drojf: go to bed :) |
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| 01:47 | jstapleton | new install did come with a default list of Z39.50/SRU targets. is there a quick/easy way to add? |
| 01:49 | typo… left an important word out: new install did NOT come with a default list of Z39.50/SRU targets. is there a quick/easy way to add? | |
| 01:49 | cait1 | if you have access to your mysql database you could just load the file with the sample servers |
| 01:50 | but it's probably almost as fast to manually configure them | |
| 01:54 | drojf | good night #koha |
| 01:56 | chrisvella | Hi. Does anyone have any experience connecting VuFind to Koha? |
| 01:57 | dcook | Mmm ages ago |
| 01:57 | I think ashimema is a good one to talk to | |
| 01:57 | I think he might even have contributed to the Koha connector? | |
| 01:57 | chrisvella | Yea. Trying to figure out how to use that now |
| 01:58 | Not a lot of documentation around | |
| 01:58 | dcook | Hmm |
| 01:58 | I recall the documentation being fairly good I thought | |
| 01:58 | Maybe not for the connector, although I thought I used that too | |
| 01:58 | chrisvella | yea |
| 01:58 | dcook | Can't recall for certain as it was years ago now I think |
| 01:58 | Long story short, I'm of no help..lol | |
| 01:58 | chrisvella | the main installation documentation is good, but I can't find anything current on the connector |
| 01:59 | dcook | And ashimema won't be awake for ages I suspect |
| 01:59 | chrisvella | thanks anyway dcook |
| 01:59 | dcook | No worries |
| 01:59 | I suspect it either uses ILS-DI or is super heavy handed | |
| 01:59 | and just goes right to the database | |
| 01:59 | chrisvella | seems to connect via the mysql database |
| 01:59 | but I am not sure | |
| 02:00 | dcook | What's the trouble? |
| 02:00 | wahanui | somebody said the trouble was it seems to always give a false positive on a few fields |
| 02:00 | chrisvella | I am trying to use the initial configuration wizard |
| 02:00 | Its failing on two steps, ILS and Solr | |
| 02:00 | No idea what is causing either to fail | |
| 02:02 | As far as I can tell, the driver for Koha connects via mysql as it uses port 3306 | |
| 02:02 | I have got my koha server mysql setup remotely accessible | |
| 02:02 | and its still failing | |
| 02:02 | dcook | Ahh |
| 02:02 | That could do it | |
| 02:02 | I think it's hard-coded to only use MySQL on the same machine | |
| 02:03 | At least, I think that's what my boss noticed at the time | |
| 02:03 | chrisvella | damn |
| 02:03 | dcook | Worth double-checking, but that might be it |
| 02:04 | chrisvella | well it references a host, user and password in the config |
| 02:04 | dcook | Hmm, maybe it improved |
| 02:05 | It doesn't have any logging to say why it's failing? That would be annoying | |
| 02:05 | chrisvella | yea. I really can't tell |
| 02:05 | dcook | Time to examine the source code I guess |
| 02:05 | chrisvella | looking into logging still |
| 02:07 | cait1 | hm I am not sure if the newer driver is in vufind yet |
| 02:07 | does someone know? because the old one was pretty horrible | |
| 02:08 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ernal_Integration < maybe helpful | |
| 02:14 | chrisvella | thank you cait1 |
| 02:40 | francesca | bug 15287 |
| 02:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15287 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use font-awesome on the OPAC |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | francesca++ |
| 02:41 | francesca | woo I made a bug |
| 02:41 | exciting | |
| 02:42 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 02:43 | dcook | Thought you meant you were the cause of a bug rather than making a bug report :p |
| 02:44 | francesca | no not my fault |
| 02:44 | I didnt break anything | |
| 02:47 | wizzyrea | everyone introduces bugs. |
| 02:47 | :) | |
| 02:48 | francesca | ok better wording - I havent broken anything YET |
| 02:48 | dcook | Everyone totally introduces bugs |
| 02:48 | I wrote one that triggered infinite loops under certain conditions... | |
| 02:48 | That was fun | |
| 02:49 | Not in Koha but another system | |
| 02:49 | Fortunately caught early and reverted like... | |
| 02:49 | Something which is reverted quickly | |
| 02:49 | I think that was down to a typo as well... I think the fix I wrote later was maybe 2 characters | |
| 02:50 | Cool story, bro | |
| 02:50 | francesca | I got one of my websites last year stuck in an infinite redirect loop |
| 02:50 | dcook | Ouch |
| 02:50 | francesca | yeah I fixed it like the night before it was due |
| 02:50 | dcook | Nicely done |
| 02:52 | francesca | alright I'm off |
| 02:52 | see ya later #koha | |
| 02:52 | rangi | cya |
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| 03:07 | alex_ | I have an error message "Failed to attach patch to bug 15252, status=200" after I try to attach patch to bug in order to sign bug off. I have tried resetting kohaclone and tried to attach the patch to the bug multiple times with this same error message appearing each time. Also not much online about this just that it something to do with not being logged in (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s[…]ug.cgi?id=990275) |
| 03:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15252 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Signed Off , Patron search on start with does not work with several terms |
| 03:07 | 04Bug 990275: could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId | |
| 03:08 | rangi | i wonder if the config is wrong |
| 03:09 | wizzyrea | it's working for me now |
| 03:10 | rangi | it doesnt need the username/password to apply |
| 03:10 | only to attach | |
| 03:10 | so it could be that the git bz config is wrong | |
| 03:10 | alex_ | How do you get to the configuration for git bz? |
| 03:11 | wizzyrea | I got that message once earlier too, trying to attach to a test bug |
| 03:11 | but the next time it worked | |
| 03:11 | rangi | try |
| 03:11 | git config | |
| 03:12 | git config -l | |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea | it's a devbox eh alex_ |
| 03:13 | alex_ | Yes |
| 03:14 | rangi | shouldn't matter |
| 03:14 | config will be in the same place | |
| 03:15 | when you run create the instance, it uses the config file to set the config in git, but from then on its all in git config | |
| 03:16 | wizzyrea | ~/.gitconfig |
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| 03:17 | wizzyrea | http://pastebin.com/ED9cM31a this is what my bz section looks like |
| 03:17 | (no that's not really my password) | |
| 03:17 | dcook | not anymore |
| 03:17 | :P | |
| 03:17 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 03:19 | alex_ | I have "bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.path=/bugzilla3 |
| 03:19 | bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-user=alex | |
| 03:19 | bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-password=mypassword" | |
| 03:21 | So same as yours except "bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz" before path, user, and password. | |
| 03:22 | dcook | alex_: mine looks like yours too |
| 03:22 | with "git config -l" at least | |
| 03:22 | I think wizzyrea was looking in ~/.gitconfig directly | |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea | I was |
| 03:23 | dcook | I also have these lines: |
| 03:23 | bz.default-tracker=bugs.koha-community.org | |
| 03:23 | bz.default-product=Koha | |
| 03:23 | alex_ | When I try to do ~/.gitconfig I get "permission denied" message |
| 03:23 | dcook | alex_: Did git bz show you anymore than just that? Could you paste the whole message? |
| 03:23 | Ahh | |
| 03:23 | Oh wait. Nix that "Ahh" | |
| 03:24 | Sounds weird though | |
| 03:24 | wizzyrea | wait when you try to say, less ~/.gitconfig? |
| 03:24 | dcook | less++ |
| 03:24 | Just typing "~/.gitconfig" would be telling the system you want to execute .gitconfig | |
| 03:25 | And you'll get permission denied as it shouldn't have an execute bit set | |
| 03:25 | Plus it wouldn't do anything anyway.. | |
| 03:26 | wizzyrea | git bz attach 6473 |
| 03:26 | git bz attach 6473 HEAD | |
| 03:26 | even | |
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| 03:41 | chrisvella_ | alex_ did you recieve my pm? |
| 03:42 | wizzyrea | probably but he's been jabbering irl with me :) |
| 03:43 | chrisvella_ | haha np |
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| 04:14 | dcook | A great Christmas present would be someone overhauling the Inventory/Stocktake tool... |
| 04:14 | * dcook | thinks Santa and his elves need to learn Perl |
| 04:25 | Francesca | lol |
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| 04:29 | dcook | Wow... that's an interesting inventory error message.. |
| 04:32 | Error in tempfile() using template /tmp/XXXXXXXXXX: Could not create temp file /tmp/JGgK9lPOOh: No such file or directory at (eval 70) line 66. | |
| 04:33 | I'm going to try that Carp trick to get a stack trace.. | |
| 04:34 | Is it bad to quote myself? https://tech4lib.wordpress.com[…]ck-trace-in-perl/ :p | |
| 04:35 | Dang, that's really useful | |
| 04:35 | Interwebs said the error was from File::Temp, but nothing obvious seemed to use it | |
| 04:36 | I did suspect maybe it had to do with the file upload... and the stacktrace seems to confirm something along those lines | |
| 04:43 | Weird... rebooting Apache did the trick | |
| 04:53 | Hmm... surely not checking "Compare barcodes list to results" should mean that it just tries to process uploaded barcodes and not look up results... | |
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| 04:55 | Amit_Gupta | hi rangi |
| 04:55 | rangi around? | |
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| 07:33 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:33 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
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| 07:35 | fridolin | hie there |
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| 07:58 | Joubu | hello #koha |
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| 07:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:59 | wahanui | privet, alex_a |
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| 08:23 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 09:02 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:02 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (10:00 AM CET on December 03, 2015). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.52 in 1033 hPa (Rising). |
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| 09:04 | mveron-away | Hi #koha |
| 09:04 | cdickinson_ | @wunder lower hutt |
| 09:04 | huginn | cdickinson_: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 16.7°C (10:00 PM NZDT on December 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:06 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 09:06 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (9:50 AM CET on December 03, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:07 | * magnuse | sends a "neener neener" in the direction of konstanz |
| 09:19 | Joubu | cait: hi! Just remembered your later |
| 09:19 | Why do you want a check on C4::Dates? | |
| 09:19 | (in qa script) | |
| 09:19 | cait | i just don't want to miss it :) |
| 09:20 | i know it shoudl probably show up in testng too, if it's in a patch | |
| 09:20 | Joubu | but the compilation pass will fail if a script/module try and use C4::Dates |
| 09:20 | and it does not exist | |
| 09:20 | So I don't think we need a special check for that | |
| 09:22 | cait | ah ok :) |
| 09:22 | makes sense | |
| 09:22 | same if it uses a function from C4::Dates? | |
| 09:22 | without reintroducing the use line? | |
| 09:23 | Joubu | no |
| 09:23 | but I won't list all the subroutines of the modules :) | |
| 09:24 | cait | will be careul with the old patches then :) |
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| 09:36 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 09:36 | drojf | hei magnuse |
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| 10:09 | magnuse | wow, it's dark outside... |
| 10:10 | cait | similar here |
| 10:10 | foggy | |
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| 10:12 | magnuse | yeah, we got rain, hail, dark low hanging clouds and even lightning and thunder. quite dramatic... |
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| 10:13 | June | Hello |
| 10:14 | cait | oh nice |
| 10:14 | i like a good thunderstorm :) | |
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| 10:17 | * Francesca | hates thunderstorms |
| 10:18 | drojf | hi June |
| 10:18 | June | hi drojf |
| 10:19 | I would like to ask something about KOHA SIP2 | |
| 10:19 | does anyone know | |
| 10:19 | cait | you have to ask first :) |
| 10:20 | June | I am able to checkout from command line by connecting SIP2 |
| 10:20 | magnuse | cait: this is not a proper thunderstorm, we had 2-3 lightning flashes. but thunder is rare up here, so we notice |
| 10:21 | June | the problem is that the item status is still showing available |
| 10:21 | magnuse | is http://translate.koha-community.org/ down? |
| 10:26 | June | you can see the screenshot https://docs.google.com/drawin[…]/edit?usp=sharing |
| 10:27 | the first item is checked out using SIP2 and the 2nd item is checked out using KOHA web | |
| 10:40 | cait | hm |
| 10:40 | the availableis strange yes | |
| 10:41 | i am not sure how that could happen- we are using sip with a few libraries using 3.18 currently | |
| 10:44 | June | this is checkout message 11NN20151202 08062920151227 030629AOmylib|AAthida|ABB1246857|AC| |
| 10:47 | this is the Institution policy in SIPconfig.xml <policy checkin="true" renewal="true" checkout="true" status_update="true" offline="false" timeout="100" retries="5"/> | |
| 10:51 | mveron-away | Lunch... |
| 10:51 | wahanui | i guess lunch is a good idea :) |
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| 11:04 | cait | June: maybe askng on the mailing list would be a good idea - more sip experts might read |
| 11:04 | also will neeed the exact Koha version you are using | |
| 11:05 | June | how can I contact from mailing list |
| 11:05 | I am using ver 3.2 | |
| 11:09 | cait | oh |
| 11:09 | 3.2 is very very old | |
| 11:10 | it might be hard to help you with that version | |
| 11:10 | the sip code has been changed a lot since | |
| 11:14 | drojf | 3.2 is 4,5 years old i think. it's a dinosaur :) |
| 11:14 | June | really |
| 11:15 | I am newbie and I just install according to the KOHA manual | |
| 11:15 | drojf | do you mean 3.20 maybe? |
| 11:15 | June | yes |
| 11:15 | 3.20 | |
| 11:15 | drojf | which is something different from 3.2 |
| 11:15 | alright then, that's much better :) | |
| 11:17 | June | :) |
| 11:17 | btw, do we need a license to use KOHA for commercial or government use. | |
| 11:19 | drojf | no. koha is gplv3, free as in freedom. no license fees. if you like you can add yourself to the koha wiki in the users section so people know about you |
| 11:21 | June | oh Thanks. |
| 11:21 | wahanui | hmmm... Thanks. is "Configure and Start apache" a page on the Koha wiki? |
| 11:22 | drojf | wahanui: forget thanks |
| 11:22 | wahanui | drojf, I didn't have anything matching thanks |
| 11:22 | drojf | wahanui: forget Thanks |
| 11:22 | wahanui | drojf, I didn't have anything matching thanks |
| 11:22 | drojf | hm |
| 11:23 | wahanui is a bot, don't listen to it ;) | |
| 11:25 | June | am I eligible to sell the library service as a package including KOHA ILS? |
| 11:25 | cait | you can't sell the software, but you can sell services around it |
| 11:38 | June | Alright, I understand now. thanks again. |
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| 11:45 | petter | hi #koha |
| 11:47 | cait | hi petter :) |
| 11:48 | petter | Anyone knows when debian packages for 3.22 will be published? |
| 11:48 | http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/dists/ | |
| 11:49 | cait | maybe today |
| 11:49 | drojf | today or tomorrow |
| 11:49 | petter | great, thanks! |
| 11:49 | cait | gmcharlt is taking over as packaging manager from eythian currently |
| 11:49 | he send an email to the list yesterday i think :) | |
| 11:50 | petter | Ah, understand, I forgot eythian was the one managing all that |
| 12:03 | * magnuse | waves to petter |
| 12:04 | petter | hei magnus! |
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| 12:51 | vfernandes | hi |
| 12:51 | :) | |
| 12:51 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:52 | vfernandes | one quick question: after upgrading my Koha from 3.16 to 3.20 some column names on the saved sql reports page appears with wrong encoding |
| 12:53 | for example "Número de cartão" appears " Número cartão" | |
| 12:53 | there is any reason to this encoding problem? | |
| 12:57 | looks like its a double encoding | |
| 13:03 | tcohen | vfernandes: is that 3.20.4? |
| 13:03 | vfernandes | it subversion makes difference? |
| 13:03 | *the subversion | |
| 13:05 | pastebot | "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "mysql database config" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/184 |
| 13:05 | vfernandes | the database config it's correct right? |
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| 13:06 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 13:06 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 11.0°C (1:50 PM CET on December 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:10 | vfernandes | tcohen: i'm using 3.20.1 |
| 13:10 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 13:10 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 0.9°C (8:09 AM EST on December 03, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:10 | pastebot | "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "mysql database config" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/185 |
| 13:12 | vfernandes | tcohen: the exported CSV also has the utf8 double encoding on the headers |
| 13:13 | tcohen | vfernandes: I think that's already fixed in 3.20.5 |
| 13:15 | vfernandes | tcohen: are you talking about this? http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14817 |
| 13:15 | huginn | 04Bug 14817: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Encoding issues in columns.def |
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| 13:16 | vfernandes | that bug fix doesn't solve my problem |
| 13:17 | after running a custom report the column names appears with wrong encoding | |
| 13:18 | tcohen | vfernandes: and data on the DB is not wrong |
| 13:18 | right? | |
| 13:19 | vfernandes | everything is right instead of column names |
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| 13:20 | pastebot | "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "SQL example" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/186 |
| 13:20 | vfernandes | tcohen look at this SQL exemple |
| 13:20 | tcohen | yeah |
| 13:20 | i'm on it | |
| 13:21 | cait | maybe you are thinking of a different thing? |
| 13:21 | the bug only resolved issues when using guided reports | |
| 13:22 | tcohen | vfernandes: it is a bug, report it |
| 13:22 | * cait | waves at tcohen |
| 13:23 | tcohen | vfernandes: in the bug report mention the CSV export has the same problem |
| 13:23 | hi cait! | |
| 13:26 | oleonard | Hi cait! |
| 13:26 | cait | hi oleonard! :) i misssed your comeback! |
| 13:26 | you are back for good now... right? | |
| 13:26 | druthb | hi, cait! :) |
| 13:26 | vfernandes | bug #15290 |
| 13:26 | oleonard | It's okay cait, there wasn't a party |
| 13:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15290 major, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , SQL reports encoding problem |
| 13:26 | cait | what... no party??? |
| 13:26 | there hsould have been one :) | |
| 13:26 | hi druthb :) | |
| 13:27 | oleonard | cait: Barring unforseen catastrophes I am back, not just visiting. |
| 13:27 | ...and feeling very behind. | |
| 13:27 | vfernandes | tcohen++ |
| 13:27 | now the 1 million question: how to solve this bug? | |
| 13:28 | cait | oleonard: you will be up to speed in no time again :) |
| 13:29 | oleonard: how did your other project turn out? | |
| 13:29 | magnuse | oleonard: you just have to learn go, since we rewrote koha in it while you were away |
| 13:29 | oleonard | magnuse: :P |
| 13:30 | cait: My project turned out well. A Drupal-to-Wordpress conversion of my library's web site. Not that much change on the surface though. | |
| 13:30 | cait | probably harder to do :) |
| 13:31 | * magnuse | wonders if there is a MARC module for go yet |
| 13:31 | cait | don#t get ideas |
| 13:33 | tcohen | magnuse, we should make MARC::Record for Perl6 first |
| 13:34 | drojf | oleonard: why did you switch from drupal to wordpress? |
| 13:34 | druthb | tcohen, as the Perl nerds say, "Well Volunteered!" You're nominated for a MARC module for Perl 6, merely by speaking its' name... |
| 13:34 | drojf | tcohen: we should do Perl6 a favour and bury MARC instead ;) |
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| 13:35 | oleonard | drojf: Wordpress's focus on usability for content-creators, easier upgrades |
| 13:35 | tcohen | druthb: i'm pretty sure gmcharlt made it forward-compatible already |
| 13:36 | drojf | oleonard: thanks. i have not used drupal but it may happen in the future. i think its part of islandora as a frontend for the fedora repository. probably not an option to change that to wordpress, but still interesting to hear reasons for a switch |
| 13:37 | i would prefer to switch from wordpress to a handmade website for my koha stuff, but no time to do it :/ | |
| 13:37 | oleonard | drojf: I consider my reasons fairly specific and probably fairly personal as well. I wouldn't use my choice as a data point necessarily. |
| 13:38 | druthb | tcohen: gmcharlt is awesome like that. |
| 13:38 | oleonard | drojf: I was on a Drupal 6 installation. Migrating to Drupal 7 would have been just as much work as migrating to Wordpress, and Drupal 8 and another massive migration was just around the corner |
| 13:38 | drojf | oleonard: i hardly worked with any of these things really. so choices of people with more experience are very welcome :) |
| 13:39 | tcohen | druthb: you bet |
| 13:39 | drojf | oleonard: upgrades being migrations sounds like a very good reason to switch to wordpress |
| 13:40 | i think i did not ever more than press a button. but i have no customisations and i am probably not a very typical cms user | |
| 13:40 | *do more | |
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| 13:42 | drojf | druthb! |
| 13:43 | druthb | drojf! |
| 13:43 | wahanui | rumour has it drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi |
| 13:43 | druthb | wahanui: druthb? |
| 13:43 | wahanui | She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know? |
| 13:43 | druthb | mmm-hm. |
| 13:44 | drojf | oh i have not tried git on the pi zero yet :D |
| 13:44 | cait | cait? |
| 13:44 | wahanui | go to bed |
| 13:44 | cait | hmpf |
| 13:44 | druthb | lol |
| 13:45 | drojf | what? that is the best one. and much better than "do your slides" :D |
| 13:46 | druthb | gmcharlt? |
| 13:46 | wahanui | hmmm... gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
| 13:46 | druthb | mhm. |
| 13:46 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 13:53 | drojf | slides? |
| 13:53 | wahanui | get back to writing them, cait! |
| 13:53 | drojf | yes, write my slides cait! |
| 13:53 | druthb | lol |
| 13:54 | cait | no more slides this year |
| 13:55 | drojf | lucky you |
| 13:56 | cait | have to write an article tho |
| 13:57 | drojf | about koha? |
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| 14:01 | magnuse | tcohen: yeah, perl6 is much closer to my heart than go. it was just a moment of idle curiosity... |
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| 14:07 | oleonard | does the koha-translate command not work with gitified installations? |
| 14:08 | cait | hm i have never tried actually |
| 14:09 | oleonard | I just want to install some other translations, not sure the best way in this gitified package install |
| 14:09 | drojf | oleonard: what does "not work" mean in that context? |
| 14:10 | oleonard | drojf: I ran the command, but the translation doesn't show up in preferences, templates weren't generated |
| 14:10 | drojf | koha-translate might update the files in the /usr/share/koha path and you want to use those in git? |
| 14:10 | tcohen | oleonard: i don't think so |
| 14:10 | drojf | have you checked where the po files end up? |
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| 14:12 | oleonard | Oh yeah they are in /usr/share/koha |
| 14:12 | So instead I should run the regular script from my git repo. | |
| 14:12 | drojf | oleonard: have you tried running koha-translate from the git path? |
| 14:14 | cait | oleonard: i think that might work |
| 14:15 | drojf | it has /htdocs/ hardcoded |
| 14:15 | so i think it won't. you may have to copy the files manually | |
| 14:16 | oleonard | Okay thanks everyone |
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| 14:19 | cait | hm would be good to fix that |
| 14:20 | tcohen | vfernandes: did u fill the bug? |
| 14:22 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
| 14:22 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 27.1°C (11:20 AM ART on December 03, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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| 14:28 | liw | @wunder torrevieja |
| 14:28 | huginn | liw: The current temperature in Acequion, Torrevieja, Spain is 17.1°C (3:28 PM CET on December 03, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:28 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 14:28 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 3.9°C (3:27 PM CET on December 03, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:31 | drojf | lol. i just had to install a search tool in KDE and then disable it, to make simple folder search work. |
| 14:32 | and over that i forgot what i was searching for | |
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| 14:35 | oleonard | I find it confusing that there are three different ways do offline circulation. |
| 14:37 | And someone is supposedly going to share a new tool written in Java? | |
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| 14:38 | xarragon | Is there a way to perform transactions and rollback in Zebra, so that I can write test code that interacts with it safely? |
| 14:40 | drojf | oleonard: agreed. i don't really know what the reason for that is or wha tthe pros and cons of the options are. but i doubt offline circulation is such a complex thing that we need various tools for it |
| 14:40 | vfernandes | tcohen: yes, bug 15290 |
| 14:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15290 major, P1 - high, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , SQL reports encoding problem |
| 14:40 | oleonard | As far as I can tell: The cons for the built-in offline circ feature and the Windows client are that they have to be synchronized with the database. |
| 14:41 | The con for the Firefox addon is that it doesn't know anything about the Koha database | |
| 14:41 | (and that it's unmaintained and currently broken?) | |
| 14:41 | cait | i think not unmaintained |
| 14:41 | and worked last time i tested it | |
| 14:41 | oleonard | I guess needing to synchronize with the database is fine if you know *when* you're going offline. Not so much if you don't. |
| 14:42 | cait | yeah |
| 14:42 | biblibre maintains it still i think - just need to know if something is broken | |
| 14:42 | oleonard | cait: I was basing my comment on the discussion on the koha list back in October |
| 14:42 | I haven't tested it recently | |
| 14:42 | cait | ah |
| 14:42 | xarragon | When I look at t/Search I only see a test for History functions |
| 14:42 | cait | oleonard: i am nto sure someone has verified |
| 14:43 | vfernandes | tcohen++ |
| 14:46 | cait | xarragon: what were you looking for? |
| 14:46 | and have you checked t/db_dependent too? | |
| 14:47 | tcohen | vfernandes: i didn't fix the csv export (tab export and ods work fine) |
| 14:47 | * mveron | waves |
| 14:47 | tcohen | i need to focus on other problem right now |
| 14:52 | Joubu: why do we use Text::Csv::Encoded? | |
| 14:53 | Joubu | tcohen: to get a correctly encoded csv? |
| 14:54 | ha, didn't see the backlog | |
| 14:54 | tcohen: I can have a look later, but not now sorry | |
| 14:56 | tcohen | Joubu: it is like that lib is intended for conveniently handling encoding changes in/out etc, but here we have decoded ut8, always, i'm not sure |
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| 15:38 | xarragon | So once I have developed something and created bugs for it with the patches attached, should I also send it to koha-patches? |
| 15:39 | In order to get some feedback etc for less-than-perfected patches? | |
| 15:39 | Or is that just spamming? I saw that signed-off patches are encouraged to be sent. | |
| 15:41 | oleonard | I thought we weren't really using the patches list anymore. |
| 15:41 | Anyone else know? | |
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| 15:46 | cait | oleonard: i'd say that's correct |
| 15:46 | Joubu | nobody uses it anymore |
| 15:46 | cait | yep |
| 15:48 | xarragon | Ah, ok. Explains why I have not gotten much emails from it then. :-) |
| 15:48 | cait | i think it kind of predates the attaching patches to bugzilla |
| 15:49 | and git bz - so we stopped using it | |
| 15:49 | xarragon: there is a bugs list tho... if you want to know what people are working on :) | |
| 15:51 | could i get a quick signoff maybe on my terminolgy follow-up for bug 10154? | |
| 15:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10154 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, Signed Off , Add collection, location, and callnumber filters to report for most circulated items |
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| 16:16 | cait | thx oleonard! |
| 16:21 | ah oleonard - the next bug I am looking at has a bit of a stlye problem | |
| 16:21 | bug 12395 - the modal with the new information | |
| 16:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Save order line's creator |
| 16:21 | cait | would you mind taking a look maybe? |
| 16:22 | oleonard | Sure. |
| 16:22 | cait | oleonard? |
| 16:22 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 16:22 | cait | ... took a while wishing! |
| 16:22 | oleonard | Being away from #koha made me grumpy. |
| 16:22 | cait | i am kind of glad to hear that :) |
| 16:24 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:44 | oleonard | We're doing database updates differently now? How does that work when testing patches? |
| 16:44 | cait | ah we have atomicupdates now |
| 16:44 | the sql is put into a separate file | |
| 16:44 | you can just run updatedatabase from command line as before | |
| 16:44 | Joubu | oleonard: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es#updatedatabase.pl |
| 16:45 | oleonard: but actually, when testing patches it's the same :) perl ./path/../updatedatabase.pl | |
| 16:45 | bye #koha! | |
| 16:46 | cait | oleonard: also worth noting - the RM will create the updatedatabase entry then like we always did - so it's not a big change in the end, only for testing/developing |
| 16:48 | bye Joubu :) | |
| 16:49 | oleonard | Thanks cait and Joubu |
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| 17:12 | xarragon | Hmm, for web frontend changes to both OPAC and Staff, should I file two separate bugs? |
| 17:12 | Since they have separate categories in BZ? | |
| 17:14 | oleonard | xarragon: It's not required that you file two bugs. Use one bug if the changes are dependent on each other. |
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| 17:18 | xarragon | oleonard: Ok |
| 17:18 | Thanks for the advise | |
| 17:27 | oleonard: In this case it is a single-line fix in the JS to adjust a date range. | |
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| 17:28 | xarragon | oleonard: They do not need each other, but are logically the same fix in two places. |
| 17:33 | oleonard | I would probably file one bug but submit two separate patches. |
| 17:36 | * cait | agrees |
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| 18:07 | * oleonard_ | glares at oleonard |
| 18:08 | oleonard_ | Anyone know why I get this error when running the qa test tool? "Attempt to reload Koha/Template/Plugin/Koha.pm aborted. Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20/Template/Plugins.pm line 206." |
| 18:09 | cait | hm |
| 18:09 | maybe a mising sepdency | |
| 18:09 | missing dependency even | |
| 18:09 | hm, no | |
| 18:09 | which patch is that? | |
| 18:09 | wahanui | i already had it that way, cait. |
| 18:13 | oleonard | cait I'm testing a follow-up I wrote for Bug 12395 |
| 18:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Save order line's creator |
| 18:14 | cait | oleonard: i am not sure - maybe a missing USE? |
| 18:27 | * mveron | waves |
| 18:27 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 18:27 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 1.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 03, 2015). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:31 | mveron | cait: Column headers 'Feld' 'Vom' 'An' on page 'Benutzer aktualisieren' really looked weird :-) Bug 15300 |
| 18:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15300 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Translatability: Replace ambiguous 'From' and 'To' in members-update.tt |
| 18:31 | cait | Agreed |
| 18:52 | oleonard | When I run the qa tool it fails on acqui/parcel.tt when running 'valid_template' |
| 18:52 | That's when it gives the error message. | |
| 18:53 | ...but it doesn't give the error when processing the other template I changed in my patch (acqui/showorder.tt) | |
| 18:58 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "QA test tool error output" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/187 |
| 19:00 | pianohacker | oleonard: does prove xt/tt_valid.t show anything more useful? |
| 19:00 | oleonard | Another consequence of using a gitified package install? |
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| 19:04 | cait | oleonard: does it fail before your changes too? |
| 19:06 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "QA test tool error output on previous 3 commits" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/189 |
| 19:08 | cait | hm i will run them on my installation |
| 19:08 | one second | |
| 19:10 | hm no problems here | |
| 19:12 | i have a git installation | |
| 19:13 | oleonard | I thought a gitified package install would be good in order to avoid hassles with Zebra, but so far it has created more problems than it has solved. |
| 19:14 | cait | i haven't really worked with one so far |
| 19:14 | are you using a self-gitified or a kohadevbox? | |
| 19:15 | oleonard | self-gitified. I don't know what a kohadevbox is. |
| 19:18 | cait | kohadevbox? |
| 19:18 | wahanui | it has been said that kohadevbox is at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox |
| 19:19 | cait | i think it has all the dev tools already set up... but I haven't tested it yet |
| 19:21 | oleonard | Wow. Neat. |
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| 19:23 | oleonard | So now I'm afraid to say anything is broken for fear it's just me. However... Patron searches failing on members/member.pl in master? |
| 19:25 | cait | i can try |
| 19:25 | a specific search term? | |
| 19:27 | hm searches seem ok to me so far | |
| 19:27 | oleonard | Ugh. |
| 19:28 | cait | error message or just no results? |
| 19:30 | oleonard | The page loads, but the datatable never does. Firebug shows what looks like the correct response header and there is no error in the console. |
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| 19:45 | oleonard | Well anyway, I went ahead and submitted my follow-up to Bug 12395. |
| 19:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Save order line's creator |
| 19:47 | cait | thx :) |
| 19:47 | but weird error...:( | |
| 19:48 | pianohacker | oleonard: did that tt_valid spit out anything more useful? Curious if the qa tools are saying "bad template" but are just bad at communicating |
| 19:49 | oleonard | pianohacker: Running "prove xt/tt_valid.t" doesn't work at all (lots of errors) and I assume it has something to do with my environment but I can't debug right now. |
| 19:50 | I'm going to try again tomorrow. | |
| 19:50 | pianohacker | hrm :/ okay |
| 19:50 | good luck | |
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| 20:30 | eythian | Hi |
| 20:31 | pianohacker | hi eythian |
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| 21:15 | barton | Does anyone know of a bug whereby setting any branch specific notice trigger disables the 'default' trigger? ... I thought that khall or I had filed one, but I can't find it in bugzilla. |
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| 21:28 | cait | barton: ? |
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| 21:28 | cait | i think the code should be so that it uses the specific branch trigger if exists and the default one if there is no specific one for that branch |
| 21:28 | there was a bug ages ago, but i haven't seen one recently | |
| 21:33 | barton | hm. well, I've been around since 3.10, so this would have been after that. :-) |
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| 21:42 | rangi | morning |
| 21:45 | cait | morning rangi |
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| 22:12 | * dcook | wavse |
| 22:13 | dcook | waves* |
| 22:13 | wnickc | Hi dcook |
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| 22:23 | dcook | hey wnickc |
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| 23:40 | mveron-away | Good night / daytime #koha |
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