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| 00:47 | pianohacker | hi dcook |
| 00:50 | dcook | yo pianohacker |
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| 02:14 | tcohen | hi |
| 02:37 | wizzyrea | hi tcohen :) |
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| 06:55 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:59 | rangi | hi magnuse |
| 07:06 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
| 07:09 | @wunder wellington | |
| 07:09 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:09 | magnuse | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 07:09 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on December 01, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:10 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:10 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (7:50 AM CET on December 01, 2015). Conditions: Snow Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:10 | eythian | @wunder alexandra, nz |
| 07:10 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Molyneux Estate, Alexandra, New Zealand is 23.3°C (8:09 PM NZDT on December 01, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
| 07:10 | eythian | my parents were telling me all about it :/ |
| 07:10 | magnuse | lulz, where is that? in the north? |
| 07:11 | * magnuse | wanders over to google maps |
| 07:11 | rangi | heya eythian, how's living above a canal going? |
| 07:12 | magnuse | oh, way down in the south! |
| 07:12 | eythian | magnuse: yeah, where my parents live, it's inland enough to get hot (and cold in winter) |
| 07:13 | rangi: it's OK, cept I have a terrible cold right on my first week of work. | |
| 07:13 | magnuse | ouch! |
| 07:13 | eythian | just emailed to start looking for a real apt though, that'll be good |
| 07:13 | (this one is a bit out of the way, in the next city over.) | |
| 07:13 | magnuse | @wunder amstelveen |
| 07:13 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in v. H. Goedhartlaan, Amstelveen - North, Amstelveen, Netherlands is 7.8°C (8:13 AM CET on December 01, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:15 | magnuse | clutha river - any trout in there? |
| 07:15 | eythian | yes |
| 07:15 | (well, I'm pretty sure - there's trout in many rivers around there.) | |
| 07:27 | magnuse | yay |
| 07:28 | * magnuse | read books about fishing trout in nz while growing up |
| 07:33 | eythian | I used to go fishing for trout in NZ while growing up ☺ |
| 07:37 | magnuse | lucky you :-) |
| 07:37 | on the other hand, i used to go fishing for trout in norway while growing up ;-) | |
| 07:37 | i hope i can pass that interest on to my 3.5 year old... | |
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| 07:45 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:47 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune et fridolin |
| 07:50 | reiveune | salut magnuse |
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| 07:51 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:51 | wahanui | niihau, alex_a |
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| 08:03 | Joubu | hello |
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| 09:17 | magnuse | this is weird. i am helping out with an installation someone else did. when we go to "about koha" we get the error "DBIC result type isn't of the type Borrower at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 87" |
| 09:17 | anyone else seen that? | |
| 09:18 | everything else seems normal | |
| 09:18 | and it's not using the "database user" | |
| 09:19 | and it's version 3.20.5, installed using the debian packages | |
| 09:19 | i can not reproduce on other 3.20.5 installs | |
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| 09:23 | Joubu | magnuse: check the pref AnonymousPatron |
| 09:23 | * andreashm | waves |
| 09:23 | Joubu | magnuse: it's certainly related to l.91&92 of about.pl |
| 09:25 | magnuse | it is set to 0123456 which looks kind of random... |
| 09:26 | there is a patron with that cardnumber, but AnonymousPatron should take the borrowernumber, right? | |
| 09:27 | Joubu | magnuse: yes it's a borrowernumber, but I have tested with a nonexistent borrowernumber and I didn't get the dbic error |
| 09:28 | magnuse | well it worked for me! i changed from the cardnumber to the borrowernumber, and now "about koha" displays as it should |
| 09:28 | Joubu++ | |
| 09:31 | Joubu | hum, weird :) |
| 09:31 | There is a bug anyway | |
| 09:35 | magnuse | i'll see if i can reproduce |
| 09:35 | hiya andreashm | |
| 09:36 | andreashm | hey magnuse! |
| 09:36 | wahanui | magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
| 09:37 | magnuse | mohahaha |
| 09:37 | andreashm | that never gets old, does it? =) |
| 09:41 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 09:42 | andreashm | hi khall |
| 09:53 | magnuse | hm, i cant reproduce it either (on my master/dev install). Joubu: do you still think i should report it as a bug? |
| 09:54 | ah, i *can* reproduce on 3.20.5 | |
| 09:55 | Joubu | magnuse: if you manage to understand when it fails, it could be good to get a patch for it, yes :) |
| 09:55 | I have tried with a non existent borrowernumber and didn't get the error | |
| 09:56 | ha, I get the error with "0123456" :) | |
| 10:00 | magnuse: fixed by 6882949b1b3bd1284e3d2877244a64edee3883ca | |
| 10:01 | well no, forget that. It's fixed by this patch on master, but it's not a standalone patch | |
| 10:04 | magnuse | bug 13967 |
| 10:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13967 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add package for System preferences |
| 10:07 | magnuse | i'll report it as a bug in 3.20.5 then |
| 10:07 | Joubu | magnuse: I am on it |
| 10:07 | 2sec | |
| 10:08 | magnuse: bug 15270 | |
| 10:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15270 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Koha::Objects->find can exploded if searching for nonexistent record |
| 10:09 | magnuse | ah, cool! |
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| 10:17 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 10:19 | Joubu | magnuse: it's now waiting for a signoff ;) |
| 10:21 | magnuse | Joubu: i'll see what i can do after lunch |
| 10:21 | tanks for a quick fix! | |
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| 10:49 | Joubu | magnuse: what does the save op in members/nl-search.pl? |
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| 10:50 | mveron | Hi #koha |
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| 11:55 | drojf | Joubu: thanks for trying the tests without 11842. on the plus side, we have more room for optimizing if its not relevant ;) |
| 11:57 | Joubu | drojf: it's not for the selenium tests, but it could be for something else :) |
| 11:58 | drojf | it is definitely for opac searching |
| 11:59 | but what looks like huge improvements on the raspi may not be much on a real server ;) anyway its pretty good to test these things | |
| 12:00 | i am trying to have a little less loops in search. like getting xml records immediately instead of a blog (which is actually xml too) and convert it several times later. looks like it still works, i only broke facets ;) | |
| 12:00 | *blob | |
| 12:13 | later #koha | |
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| 12:50 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:54 | chris_n | heya oleonard |
| 12:54 | wahanui | hmmm... oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 12:56 | tcohen | hi |
| 12:56 | wahanui | salut, tcohen |
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| 12:58 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:59 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 13:01 | magnuse | Joubu: sorry for the delay. it takes data from the national patron database and saves it as a new user in koha |
| 13:03 | Joubu | magnuse: I was wondering if erasing the existing patron attributes was the expected behavior |
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| 13:11 | magnuse | Joubu: does it do that? |
| 13:12 | Joubu | 141 SetBorrowerAttributes($borrowernumber, [ { code => 'fnr', value => $cgi->param('fnr_hash') }, ] ); |
| 13:13 | SetBorrowerAttributes does a DELETE FROM attr where borrowernumber=$borrowernumber | |
| 13:13 | So yes, I think it does | |
| 13:14 | magnuse | yeah, but it is done for a patron that was created a few lines before, so i don't think that is a problem |
| 13:16 | Joubu | magnuse: ha yes, exact! I thought it was called on update too. |
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| 13:19 | magnuse | it is just the save that is special, because it gets the data from the national database. updates are not treated in a special way, as far as i remember |
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| 13:41 | xarragon | So when I am implementing something specific to certain country, can I just hardcode any message strings in that countrys language, or should I use some translation facilities? |
| 13:42 | magnuse | xarragon: i have done it english and let it be picked up by the translation tools. but there might be a better way |
| 13:42 | xarragon | magnuse: Well that sounds more proper than hardcoding it. |
| 13:43 | I have looked at the libraries integrated with this service, some use english, some use swedish and the interface itself is available in english and swedish, but there is no way to request a specific language it seems (for the requests tot he local library for item status) | |
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| 14:26 | magnuse | wow, nso is below 200! |
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| 14:36 | nengard | morning all |
| 14:37 | oleonard | Hi nengard |
| 14:37 | nengard | oleonard!!!!!!!! |
| 14:37 | wahanui | oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
| 14:37 | nengard | WOOO HOO :) hehe |
| 14:37 | * nengard | missed oleonard |
| 14:38 | oleonard | Thanks nengard I missed you too! |
| 14:38 | nengard | how are things? |
| 14:39 | oleonard | Things are fine. My web site rebuilding project is done so I get to be "distracted" by Koha again :) |
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| 14:50 | xarragon | Hmm, how are item statuses defined in Koha anyway? |
| 14:50 | I see that some item hashes have specific keys for 'damaged' etc. | |
| 14:50 | Is there some formal definition for the status? | |
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| 14:54 | nengard | oleonard koha distractions are good :) |
| 14:54 | oleonard | No argument from me |
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| 15:22 | nengard | drawing a blank - what is the sys pref that lets you decide if the name or barcode shows on the patron circ history .... |
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| 15:57 | pianohacker | mornin' |
| 15:58 | mveron | Hi again everybody |
| 15:59 | t/db_dependent/Reserves.t fails with test 14 - is it only me or can anybody confirm? | |
| 15:59 | Bug 15244 | |
| 15:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15244 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , t/db_dependent/Reserves.t fails with test 14 |
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| 16:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:10 | pianohacker | mveron: so just prove on that test? |
| 16:10 | mveron | pianohacker: Thet would be great! |
| 16:10 | Thanks! | |
| 16:10 | * mveron | is called to a meeting... |
| 16:21 | pianohacker | mveron: responded to the bug |
| 16:30 | mveron: did that make sense? | |
| 16:31 | mveron | I'm still exploring... |
| 16:35 | pianohacker: Commented on bug... | |
| 16:37 | pianohacker | well, okay, so it's not gremlins |
| 16:37 | mveron: we'll have to bounce this off of srdjan or khall since they know the holds code | |
| 16:40 | mveron | khall: ^^ It would be great if you could have a look at Bug 15244 |
| 16:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15244 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , t/db_dependent/Reserves.t fails with test 14 |
| 16:40 | khall | I'll see what I can do mveron! |
| 16:41 | mveron | Thanks! |
| 16:41 | khall++ | |
| 16:41 | pianohacker++ | |
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| 16:48 | janPasi__ | is there documentation for borrower_permissions somewere? |
| 16:48 | i.e. which permission_module_id/permission_id is which permission? | |
| 16:49 | oleonard | Not strictly a Koha question, but if anyone has a moment: What could be a cause for incorrect sorting of simple (english) varchar data in mysql? |
| 16:50 | janPasi__ | the change from flags/user_permissions broke some of our migration scripts severely, so I need to rewrite all the stuff that deals with setting permissions for the personnel |
| 16:51 | pianohacker | oleonard: check the collation, could be swedish |
| 16:51 | (really) | |
| 16:52 | janPasi__ | since the new permission system doesn't use clear "code" like the old user_permissions did, this seems to be a very laboursome task |
| 16:52 | unless it's properly documented somewere ofcourse | |
| 16:52 | oleonard | Thanks pianohacker I've checked the collation on the table column. Tried utf8_general_ci and utf8mb4_unicode_ci. |
| 16:52 | pianohacker | janPasi__: are you talking about the 2.2 purely numeric permissions, or what change do you mean? |
| 16:53 | huh, okay. That's odd, oleonard | |
| 16:53 | janPasi__ | pianohacker: nope, I recently did an upgrade to a newer koha-version from our national koha-git repository |
| 16:54 | pianohacker | janPasi__: from which version to which version? |
| 16:54 | janPasi__ | pianohacker: well that's the weird thing, from 3.16 to 3.16 :D |
| 16:54 | pianohacker | odd. Which minor versions? |
| 16:54 | janPasi__ | pianohacker: but this new "3.16" seems to have a completely different permission system from the old 3.16 |
| 16:56 | they both report 3.16.04.000 | |
| 16:56 | pianohacker | wut |
| 16:56 | janPasi__ | yeah, weird :D |
| 16:56 | Joubu | janPasi__: what do you call a new permission system? |
| 16:56 | janPasi__ | the old permission system that had "flags" in borrowers table and a separate user_permissions table seems to have gone |
| 16:57 | they're replaced with a new table called borrower_permissions | |
| 16:57 | Joubu | no, it's still present in current master |
| 16:57 | there is no borrower_permissions table | |
| 16:57 | janPasi__ | well we do :D |
| 16:57 | Joubu | where do you see that? |
| 16:58 | janPasi__ | well I see it in koha database :D |
| 16:58 | Joubu | in your Koha database :) |
| 16:58 | janPasi__ | plus that the user_permissions table is gone |
| 16:58 | as well as flags column from borrowers table | |
| 16:58 | Joubu | because you removed it? |
| 16:58 | janPasi__ | nope, i think some database update removed it |
| 16:58 | i didn't touch it | |
| 16:59 | Joubu | a "borrower" permission has been removed recently |
| 16:59 | no, "borrow" | |
| 16:59 | janPasi__ | so this must have something to do with our national koha version |
| 16:59 | pianohacker | janPasi__: it must, because community 3.16.04 does not have any mention of borrower_permissions |
| 17:00 | Joubu | you have lost the user_permissions and the borrower.flags column? outch |
| 17:00 | I hope you have backup somewhere | |
| 17:00 | pianohacker | janPasi__: do you have a weird atomicupdate sitting around? |
| 17:01 | janPasi__ | Joubu: yeah, but there is no problem with losing them :D the permissions got migrated to the new permission system, they seem to be correct |
| 17:01 | the problem is that I have to add some users and some permissions and I have no clue how to do that with borrower_permissions | |
| 17:02 | i know how to do that with borrower.flags and user_permissions :D | |
| 17:02 | Joubu | Same for us, we cannot help you :) |
| 17:03 | janPasi__ | i really dislike this new borrower_permissions table :D |
| 17:03 | it's horrible | |
| 17:04 | pianohacker | janPasi__: yeah, you need to poke your developer and tell them not to do crazy stuff and not send it to community |
| 17:04 | we want all the crazy stuff! | |
| 17:04 | janPasi__ | http://pastebin.com/xXMC9nhc |
| 17:04 | i believe it's this | |
| 17:05 | but i can't seem to find any documentation for it | |
| 17:06 | Joubu | janPasi__: Are you a Olli colleague? |
| 17:07 | janPasi__ | sort of, yeah |
| 17:07 | I work in Oulu, he works in Joensuu | |
| 17:08 | Joubu | Maybe he was involved in this change |
| 17:08 | janPasi__ | Unfortunately he is in cambodia, so I can't really ask him at the moment :D |
| 17:08 | but I'll try bugging someone in Joensuu | |
| 17:12 | Joubu | janPasi__: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14540 |
| 17:12 | huginn | 04Bug 14540: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Move member-flags.pl to PermissionsManager to better manage permissions for testing. |
| 17:12 | Joubu | here is your doc |
| 17:12 | good luck | |
| 17:16 | janPasi__ | we're in the middle of migration from old PallasPro system to Koha |
| 17:16 | these kind of things are exactly what we don't need right now | |
| 17:17 | Joubu | this is one of the risks when you use a fork and not the official version |
| 17:17 | janPasi__ | well the fork has some other things that we absolutely need |
| 17:19 | pianohacker | and there's the tradeoff... |
| 17:21 | janPasi__ | :D |
| 17:22 | well i'll just call it a day for now and worry about it tomorrow | |
| 17:23 | it's almost half past seven, we'll be closing at eight o'clock anyway | |
| 17:43 | xarragon | So what category would I stick a Sweden-specific item availability retrieval function in ILSDI? |
| 17:44 | "Level 1: Basic discovery interfaces"? It is basically a clone of GetAvailability | |
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| 18:38 | drojf | i think its confusing when people on mailing lists state their problem and then don't ask anything. |
| 18:57 | Joubu | have a good evening #koha |
| 19:01 | rangi | morning |
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| 19:11 | drojf | hi rangi |
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| 19:51 | pianohacker | mveron: nice catch on bug 15244 |
| 19:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15244 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , t/db_dependent/Reserves.t depends on external data/configuration |
| 19:53 | mveron | pianohacker: I needed some patience to catch this fish... :-) |
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| 21:15 | rangi | hey alex_ |
| 21:15 | * wizzyrea | waves to alex_ |
| 21:16 | aleisha | alex_: https://wiki.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz[…]ting_in_Koha_Team |
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| 21:22 | rangi | alex_: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]atalyst_Koha_team |
| 21:27 | drojf | is alex_ the successor of eythian at catalyst? |
| 21:28 | rangi | only for this week :) |
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| 21:28 | tcohen | hi |
| 21:28 | drojf | oh ok :) hi alex_ |
| 21:28 | hi tcohen | |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea: did you get pbuilder to work? | |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | Yes! |
| 21:31 | it was a combination of things. :) | |
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| 21:31 | drojf | oh, the worst ;) |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | the version number was wrong, and there was a missing-but-not-required dependency in the pbuilder environment |
| 21:32 | (ttf-dejavu) | |
| 21:32 | cdickinson | hi alex_ |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | (which apparently we assume is installed, and that's probably pretty daft) |
| 21:32 | drojf | oh. that one is new |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | not that new |
| 21:32 | drojf | no i mean that as a source of error |
| 21:32 | i thought i had all of them regarding pbuilder ;) | |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 21:32 | alex_ | Is bugzilla for keeping track of malware threats to koha? What does it actually do? |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | bugzilla is for keeping track of all bugs in Koha |
| 21:33 | there's a security area | |
| 21:33 | https://koha-community.org/security/ < about that | |
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| 21:51 | alex_ | There is no ubuntu OS version of Vagrant only Mac OSX, Windows, Debian, Centos. Is it ok to download vagrant debian version 64 bit? |
| 21:51 | rangi | yup that should be fine |
| 21:51 | alex_ | Thanks |
| 21:52 | cdickinson | alex_: usually the Debian versions of packages are compatible with Ubuntu, anything that doesn't will usually have a Ubuntu-specific one anyway |
| 21:52 | ibeardslee | There is vagrant in Ubuntu, make sure you have the Universe repository enabled. |
| 21:52 | and then you can just 'sudo apt-get install vagrant' | |
| 21:52 | rangi | ibeardslee: we want to grab the version from the vagrant site |
| 21:53 | ibeardslee | ahh ok |
| 21:53 | rangi | the one packaged is a bit too old |
| 21:53 | or it was .. it might be fine now | |
| 21:55 | ibeardslee | not ideal if you end up with Virtual Box 5.0, need to use the Vagrant website one, the trusty one works fine with Virtual Box 4.3 |
| 21:55 | I mean "The Ubuntu version is .. " | |
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| 21:59 | wizzyrea | the instructions on devbox are pretty ok |
| 22:00 | tcohen | wizzyrea: I updated the ansible branch's one, so it mentions installing ansible :-P |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | :D |
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| 22:00 | wizzyrea | I am sorry I haven't had a chance to try the ansible one yet >.< |
| 22:00 | * wizzyrea | fails |
| 22:00 | aleisha | how do i set a patron's privacy settings to "never" for keeping a circulation history |
| 22:01 | rangi | hmm i think in the opac |
| 22:02 | aleisha | wait i figured it out |
| 22:02 | 'Help' is useful | |
| 22:02 | rangi | :) |
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| 22:11 | mveron | drojf: Did you see the following? "Ausleihen sind GESPERRT weil Gebührenkonto ist ÜBER BEGRENZUNG. " Hmm, that is very ugly... |
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| 22:12 | drojf | mveron: no i didn't |
| 22:12 | but i agree | |
| 22:25 | mveron | drojf: Bug 15274 |
| 22:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15274 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Better translatability for circulation.pl / circulation.tt |
| 22:26 | mveron | Oh, it's late. Good night / daytime #koha |
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| 22:33 | rangi | ibeardslee: do we have any bootable media down there with a recent ubuntu on it? |
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| 22:56 | ibeardslee | yes |
| 22:56 | did he break it? | |
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| 23:40 | wizzyrea | alex_: http://pastebin.com/pahy9qbm |
| 23:45 | cait | waves |
| 23:45 | aleisha | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 23:48 | wizzyrea | hi cait |
| 23:49 | cait | hi all :) |
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