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| 01:53 | tcohen | hi |
| 02:19 | wizzyrea | HI |
| 02:19 | er, hi. | |
| 02:19 | lol. | |
| 03:03 | bag | evening |
| 03:08 | tcohen | hey |
| 03:42 | bag | stupid streaming app is messing up! |
| 03:42 | argggghhh | |
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| 07:14 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:26 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:48 | fridolin | hie |
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| 07:55 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:12 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:12 | wahanui | salut, gaetan_B |
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| 08:30 | mydsls | wants to upgrade 3.18 to 3.20 |
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| 09:05 | * cait | waves |
| 09:14 | * magnuse | waves too |
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| 09:25 | ashimema | hugs all round |
| 09:26 | cait | :) |
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| 11:13 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 11:23 | drojf | SWIB is streamed live in case anyone is interested. http://swib.org/swib15/livestream.html or to play in vlc http://62.113.210.5/elbdeich-l[…]60p/playlist.m3u8 |
| 11:23 | it's lunch break right now though | |
| 11:29 | cait | are you there? |
| 11:33 | drojf | ufortunately, no. too many things to do, not enough time for a 3 day conference :( |
| 11:33 | *unfortunately | |
| 11:33 | would have liked to take part in a workshop. well, next year | |
| 11:34 | cait | next year. :) |
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| 12:24 | * magnuse | misses hamburg |
| 12:29 | drojf | let's all go next year :) |
| 12:29 | and hei magnuse | |
| 12:34 | magnuse | moin drojf! |
| 12:34 | yeah, let's! | |
| 12:34 | well, i'll probably skip the conference and just get hamburg ;-) | |
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| 12:43 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:53 | tcohen | hi |
| 12:53 | wahanui | hi, tcohen |
| 12:53 | oleonard | Hi tcohen |
| 12:54 | magnuse | kia ora oleonard and tcohen |
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| 13:14 | barton | hi oleonard! |
| 13:14 | oleonard | Hi barton |
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| 14:34 | magnuse | have fun #koha |
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| 14:50 | oleonard | Since when does the check-in screen not include not-checked-out-items in the list of things which were scanned? |
| 14:51 | Oh, since Bug 14821 | |
| 14:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14821 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Don't show item in checked in list, when it wasn't checked in |
| 14:52 | * oleonard | disagrees :( |
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| 14:56 | bag | morning |
| 15:01 | wnickc | morning bag |
| 15:02 | bag | morning wnickc |
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| 15:51 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha |
| 15:56 | oleonard | Hi mtompset |
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| 16:00 | mtompset | Greetings oleonard |
| 16:00 | Have you ever had the pleasure of configuring email for your Koha server, oleonard? :) | |
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| 16:01 | oleonard | I don't administer "real" servers mtompset , only testing VM's |
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| 16:02 | mtompset | In otherwords, you kicked it into working, and just kept going because it was testing? |
| 16:02 | Greetings, TGoat pianohacker | |
| 16:02 | pianohacker | good note to come into channel to |
| 16:03 | mtompset | pianohacker: I was asking oleonard if he ever had the pleasure of configuring email for his Koha server. |
| 16:03 | We were running Ubuntu with 3.14.x, and I just followed some instructions online for postfix. | |
| 16:03 | I'm upgrading the server to 3.20.x, but I don't really want to just follow some instructions online. | |
| 16:04 | I'm worried about actually configuring something a little more secure than that. | |
| 16:04 | (oh, and switching to Debian) | |
| 16:05 | So, have you played with email configuration, pianohacker? | |
| 16:06 | pianohacker | I messed around with postfix waaaaay back in the day |
| 16:06 | it's been long enough that the main thing I remember is that configuring postfix was far nicer than exim or sendmail | |
| 16:06 | also, hi oleonard! | |
| 16:06 | oleonard | Hi pianohacker |
| 16:07 | pianohacker | very glad to see you're back man |
| 16:08 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:10 | mtompset | pianohacker: That seems to be my impression too. I did get nullmailer configured for my personal account on GMail. The problem is the mail server I really want to configure it on uses a self-signed certificate, and that causes nullmailer to barf. |
| 16:13 | oleonard | Thanks pianohacker, I'm glad to be back. |
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| 16:22 | xarragon | What kinf of query is this (CCL, CQL, PQF)? Control-number:12086320 |
| 16:24 | barton | @seen chris_n |
| 16:24 | huginn | barton: chris_n was last seen in #koha 8 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 21 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <chris_n> liw: LOL... my thoughts exactly |
| 16:24 | barton | hm. |
| 16:26 | * chris_n | looks about |
| 16:27 | barton | ohai chris_n! :-) |
| 16:28 | I'm trying to figure out what fonts were used prior to the addition of the <ttf> ... </ttf> section in $KOHA_CONF. | |
| 16:28 | we recently upgraded a server/koha version for one of our libraries, now they're saying that the fonts have changed. | |
| 16:28 | chris_n | "built-in" microsoft fonts |
| 16:28 | at least that's where they originated long ago | |
| 16:29 | they were very basic and limited in scope iirc | |
| 16:30 | pianohacker | xarragon: that's definitely not pqf (you'd see an @attr in there), but I always forget which of ccl/cql uses colons |
| 16:31 | xarragon | yeah well, I am just trying to figure out hjow to use getrecords.. But I am just putting warns everywhere now so i shiould have the info I need ina few moments |
| 16:32 | pianohacker | xarragon: ah, okay. That's not any of the above, but just the syntax Koha uses |
| 16:33 | chris_n | barton: its been a long time since we made that change, and I'm not certain what to say other than the original code used the default set of pdf fonts |
| 16:33 | xarragon | pianohacker: It runs that query through ZOOM::Query::CCL2RPN() it seems |
| 16:34 | barton | ah... those are probably postscript fonts. |
| 16:34 | xarragon | pianohacker: So I'd guess CCL.. |
| 16:36 | chris_n | barton: actually, no; they were ttf fonts |
| 16:36 | * chris_n | wishes he could remember the particulars |
| 16:37 | chris_n | not embedded |
| 16:37 | but local | |
| 16:37 | barton | hm. |
| 16:38 | xarragon | Hmm, getRecords(9 wasn't that hard to use once you dumped the parameters |
| 16:39 | Now I jsut need to figure out what I get back | |
| 16:39 | chris_n | you could have a look at the guts of PDF::Reuse and probably figure it out |
| 16:40 | barton | Ok. I'll give that a gander. thanks chris_n. |
| 16:41 | chris_n | sorry I can't be of much more help atm |
| 16:42 | * chris_n | heads back out for what will probably be another 8 week hiatus |
| 16:44 | pianohacker | xarragon: yar, but it does a :/= replacement first |
| 16:44 | and boolean operators get handled strangely | |
| 16:46 | xarragon | Wee, now I get results |
| 16:46 | was just missing querytype = 'ccl' | |
| 16:47 | pianohacker: But yes, I does perform magic on it first. | |
| 16:47 | pianohacker: Sorry for asking, in this case it was just easier to debug it a bit i guess | |
| 16:47 | pianohacker | I think calling anything search.pm does "magic" is a stretch... more like dark trickery |
| 16:48 | xarragon: rubber duck debugging :) | |
| 16:49 | xarragon | Hmm, but I still just get a MARC record and a hit rating.. I need item information, is there som magic search that allows me to use the same input but get item info? |
| 16:50 | Guess I can look at opac-detail since it lists holds? | |
| 16:50 | pianohacker | xarragon: out of curiosity, what are you trying to do? |
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| 16:51 | xarragon | I need to get availability info for an item, given an identifier in the Control-field MARC record. |
| 16:52 | Since Zebra has indexed that field, I use that to look it up. | |
| 16:52 | pianohacker | ahh kk |
| 16:52 | xarragon | People here directed me towards SimpleSearch, but I only get the MARC record. I need to map it the items database somehow (using ISBN was my first idea) but now I am looking to see if someone has already done that |
| 16:53 | Since the OPAC details page shows item info anyway. | |
| 16:53 | My hope was that the getRecords function would return it, since it took like half the known universe as parameters | |
| 16:54 | pianohacker | xarragon: I think SimpleSearch will return the item information, since it's added as 952s to the record when it's exported to Zebra |
| 16:54 | xarragon | Not sure if ISBN is the best approach to map it though, since apparently it can have multiple numbers in it. |
| 16:55 | pianohacker: Oh, that would be great. I have not looked in detail on the entire MARC record | |
| 16:55 | pianohacker | in fact, you can amend that "think" to "am 99% confident" |
| 16:55 | xarragon | Wouldn't be the first time I have overlooked something right in front of me. |
| 16:56 | pianohacker | it's not an obvious thing :) |
| 16:57 | xarragon | But does that info get updated and reindexed whenever item informatio changes? |
| 16:58 | Well, I'll look at the XML contents before flapping my yap any further | |
| 17:01 | pianohacker | xarragon: it's updated as often as zebra is reindexed (which may be really often if you have the daemon enabled), but if it needs to be super up to date, it may be better to extract the biblionumber from the record using C4::Biblio::TransformMarcToKohaOneField then get the items using GetItemsInfo (in C4::Items) |
| 17:07 | xarragon | pianohacker: Oh, that function sounds exactly like what I was looking for. |
| 17:09 | pianohacker: I don't seem to have much in the way of 9xx series MARC fields though. I guess they are a special class? | |
| 17:10 | back soon, need to catch train home | |
| 17:13 | gaetan_B | bonne soiréebye |
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| 17:29 | oleonard | Every once in a while we get an item which is on hold for someone but no notification comes up when we check it in. |
| 17:29 | Anyone else get that? | |
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| 17:30 | tcohen | hi |
| 17:34 | bag | hi |
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| 18:56 | oleonard | Wow it's really time to rethink that wide-ass table for setting circulation rules |
| 19:08 | rangi | it sure is |
| 19:08 | pianohacker | oleonard: we have a dev on the horizon to improve that and the backend behind it drastically |
| 19:08 | rfc before the end of the year | |
| 19:08 | I'm _so excited_ to start it | |
| 19:09 | oleonard | Great |
| 19:09 | bag | yeah oleonard what pianohacker should totally help that problem - I agree it’s way too unwieldily |
| 19:09 | oleonard | I look forward to seeing the proposed new design |
| 19:10 | Koha's interfaces are getting a little too out of control, pattern-wise. | |
| 19:11 | pianohacker | yes |
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| 19:34 | bag | hey rangi is the econtent cpan module out on cpan? or is that still in a tarball |
| 19:34 | sorry that’s vague-ish | |
| 19:34 | the one that we’re working on for overdrive | |
| 19:35 | cool - I’ll ask later | |
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| 19:35 | rangi | http://search.cpan.org/~srdjan[…]Service-ILS-0.01/ |
| 19:36 | bag | awesome thanks much rangi |
| 19:36 | sweet | |
| 19:36 | loves the JSON option ;) | |
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| 19:56 | oleonard | Bye all. See you in a week. |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | Is your zebra running? is <reply> http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/stat[…]-1335553706-6.gif |
| 20:32 | Is your zebra running? | |
| 20:33 | Is your zebra running is <reply> http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/stat[…]-1335553706-6.gif | |
| 20:33 | is your zebra running? | |
| 20:33 | hrmph. | |
| 20:40 | wnickc | hah |
| 20:41 | at the image, not your troubles :-) | |
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| 20:50 | pianohacker | wahanui: wahanui? |
| 20:50 | wahanui | i am canadian |
| 20:50 | pianohacker | wut |
| 20:54 | hahaha did people see the post about $t being uneditable in the frameworks? | |
| 20:54 | that's the silliest bug | |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | hehe I figured wnickc |
| 21:10 | pianohacker | >_< |
| 21:11 | marcel, why did you use numeric error codes in Koha::Upload... | |
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| 21:12 | * pianohacker | looks around for the large fishbot |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | no! |
| 21:16 | no troutslapping! | |
| 21:16 | * wizzyrea | is firmly anti-fishslap. |
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| 21:18 | pianohacker | ... numeric error codes are old school enough to warrant an old school troutslap, wizzyrea, in my mind |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea | nope. |
| 21:19 | https://starsandstethoscopes.f[…]petopus.gif?w=300 | |
| 21:20 | pianohacker | that's way too many nopes for a mere troutslap |
| 21:20 | your troutslap opinions seem to be more a single firm "nope." | |
| 21:20 | that's a bibframe number of nopes | |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | hehehe |
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| 22:17 | rangi | pianohacker: its an adblocker thing i think (that's the word im hearing) the t thing |
| 22:18 | pianohacker | hahahahaha |
| 22:18 | wahanui | well, hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask? |
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| 22:49 | * dcook | enjoys pianohacker's cackling |
| 22:50 | pianohacker | hi dcook :) |
| 22:50 | * cait | waves |
| 22:50 | dcook | hey pianohacker and cait :) |
| 22:51 | Either of you know how to build an unmodified rsync for Android? :p | |
| 22:51 | pianohacker | hi cait ! |
| 22:51 | * dcook | stayed up way too late trying to get it to work |
| 22:51 | pianohacker | dcook: busybox have rsync support? |
| 22:51 | dcook | Yeah |
| 22:51 | But I don't want to use busybox :p | |
| 22:51 | * dcook | likes doing things the hard way for some reason |
| 22:51 | dcook | Actually, busybox might not... I think it does |
| 22:51 | kbox, an add-on to busybox, definitely does | |
| 22:52 | And the person who did kbox said they built an unmodified rsync, so I just emailed them | |
| 22:52 | Found a git repo with a version of rsync that did build, but it looks like they've been patching rsync themselves for years... that's a bit of a nope for me | |
| 22:52 | pianohacker | what the crap are you doing? |
| 22:52 | dcook | hehe |
| 22:52 | Well, so far, nothing | |
| 22:53 | The idea is to schedule an rsync to run periodically to backup certain directories from the phone to a server | |
| 22:53 | Photos and such in case the next time I go to the beach my phone is nicked or winds up in the drink | |
| 22:53 | rangi | have you seen git annex assistant? |
| 22:53 | thatcher | ^^ |
| 22:54 | dcook | No, but I'm intrigued to the max |
| 22:54 | rangi | https://git-annex.branchable.com/assistant/ |
| 22:54 | dcook | I am still intrigued to the max |
| 22:54 | cheers rangi and thatcher | |
| 22:54 | Mind you, I don't necessarily want it to be synchronized :/ | |
| 22:55 | rangi | yep you can have it works that it just archives |
| 22:55 | too | |
| 22:55 | dcook | I'd like to do dumps. If I wipe my phone, I don't want it to wipe the archive |
| 22:55 | Ooo | |
| 22:55 | I like when people have thought of things :) | |
| 22:55 | rangi: you've used it? | |
| 22:55 | rangi | theres not much joey hess hasn't thought og |
| 22:55 | of | |
| 22:55 | yep | |
| 22:56 | dcook | That name sounds familiar.. |
| 22:56 | Ah, I was thinking Joel Spolsky. Completely different name.. | |
| 22:57 | Ooo even targets the Android version I want.. | |
| 22:59 | hehe... it comes with rsync as well... | |
| 22:59 | I wonder if it actually uses busybox.. | |
| 23:03 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=13505#c2 <-- this is like the most corner case ever |
| 23:03 | huginn | 04Bug 13505: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No advanced constraints for subfields $t |
| 23:05 | cait | i know right? :) |
| 23:05 | it took a while to figure that one out | |
| 23:06 | dcook | So he wrote the thing in Haskell... pre-processes with CPP... and compiles it to C in the end? :S |
| 23:06 | Actually I'm not even going to go down that rabbit hole.. | |
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| 23:10 | dcook | Mmm love the shared secret. That's something I wanted to do as well.. |
| 23:10 | Love when people smarter than me do things that I want done | |
| 23:13 | Hmm the git-annex archiving doesn't seem to be a thing for Android unless you're using Amazon Glacier... | |
| 23:13 | Maybe I'm reading these instructions wrong.. | |
| 23:17 | wizzyrea | that bug though. |
| 23:25 | dcook | Ohh... that is a handy screencast... |
| 23:25 | rangi++ | |
| 23:29 | Hmm, looks like development halted bacck in April 2014 though.. | |
| 23:30 | rangi | its pretty much feature complete |
| 23:30 | dcook | It says Android is still in beta, but I imagine it must be a case of it being feature complete overall? |
| 23:31 | rangi | most likely yeah, i havent had any issues |
| 23:31 | dcook | What Android version are you running? |
| 23:31 | rangi | 5.1 |
| 23:32 | dcook | Ah nice |
| 23:32 | bag | happy birthday thatcher |
| 23:32 | dcook | So a bit newer than the latest targeted release |
| 23:37 | rangi: How often does it try to sync? | |
| 23:37 | I imagine this could kill your battery? | |
| 23:38 | rangi | i havent noticed it being a problem |
| 23:39 | i pretty much just forget ive got it | |
| 23:39 | pianohacker | trea++ |
| 23:39 | dcook | Sweet :) |
| 23:39 | Ahh, looks like he is still working on the git-annex core. Just not really on the webapp or assistant. | |
| 23:39 | https://campaign.joeyh.name/bl[…]t_kept_on_giving/ | |
| 23:40 | Or might be working on the core.. | |
| 23:40 | https://github.com/joeyh/git-annex last commit was 4 hours ago... so I'm guessing yes | |
| 23:40 | pianohacker | ahhhhhh, I've wanted this for years; I now have automatic switching between line/block cursor in insert/command mode in both vim and zsh-vi-mode... within tmux |
| 23:40 | (within urxvt) | |
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| 23:50 | dcook | That feeling when someone changes a HTML system preference and busts things, and there is no action_logs to let you find it easily.. |
| 23:51 | Actually the second support call regarding malformed HTML in two days.. | |
| 23:51 | cait | dcook: hm but shoudn't it be in the logs? |
| 23:51 | dcook | It looks like the logs are turned off :( |
| 23:52 | cait | ah |
| 23:52 | dcook | Actually, it looks like they're on? |
| 23:52 | That's weird.. | |
| 23:53 | Also looks like you can't disable the log for system preferences... but there are no logs for the past 5 years :S | |
| 23:53 | Wait, I'm an idiot :p | |
| 23:53 | * dcook | shouldn't have stayed up so late last night |
| 23:54 | dcook | Hmm, changed all the preferences... that helps :p |
| 23:57 | A single missing </a> destroyed the whole layout | |
| 23:57 | Same thing as yesterday for a different site actually.. | |
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| 23:58 | * wizzyrea | pats dcook gently |
| 23:58 | dcook | :) |
| 23:58 | Gentle pats are appreciate | |
| 23:58 | d | |
| 23:58 | hehe | |
| 23:58 | I guess that's how one leaves off the closing </a> | |
| 23:59 | Might not be a bad idea to actually run the HTML preferences through a HTML syntax checker... | |
| 23:59 | wizzyrea | or use the wysiwyg |
| 23:59 | dcook | or that |
| 23:59 | Did that get in? | |
| 23:59 | wizzyrea | I think so yeah |
| 23:59 | cait | yes |
| 23:59 | * dcook | should pay more attention to his own bugs |
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