IRC log for #koha, 2015-10-05

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00:33 mtj hey eythian, is rangi about?
00:33 Francesca rangi is away
00:34 mtj hi Francesca, thanks.. (its not urgent)
00:34 Francesca he'll be back sometime next week I think
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03:08 Amit_Gupta hi all
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04:51 eythian wahanui: \is your zebra running is <reply>http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]our_zebra_running.3F
04:51 wahanui OK, eythian.
04:55 Amit_Gupta hi eythina
04:55 hi eythian
04:55 eythian hi
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06:06 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
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06:42 * magnuse waves
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06:55 marcelr hi #koha
06:55 Joubu morning #koha
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06:59 mveron morning Joubu
06:59 alex_a bonjour
06:59 wahanui salut, alex_a
07:04 matts hi !
07:08 putti Hello :)
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07:09 Amit_Gupta heya alex_a
07:09 @bug 6810
07:09 huginn Amit_Gupta: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, amitddng135, Passed QA , Send membership expiry reminder notices
07:15 reiveune hello
07:28 putti Joubu, what's columns config page?
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07:33 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:33 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 18.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
07:33 magnuse @wunder boo
07:33 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
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08:00 magnuse guten morgen, gnädigen fräulein cait
08:00 cait heh
08:00 guten morgen werter herr magnus
08:02 magnuse :-)
08:11 mveron Joubu: In march 2015 you asked if opac/opac-ics is still used. Did you get / find an answer?  I can not find occurences with git grep 'opac-ics'.
08:11 ...and hi again everybody!
08:15 Joubu mveron: I guess it has been removed
08:16 mtj hey peeps
08:16 mveron:  great work on the C4::Dates patches, thanks!
08:16 mveron Joubu:  Thanks.
08:17 Joubu mveron: sorry, the script is still in master actually
08:17 mveron Joubu: I do not find where to trigger it. Is it dead code?
08:17 Joubu I don't know what is it
08:19 mveron: you should ask rangi
08:19 mveron Joubu: I'll leave it with the C4::Dates patch set for Opac, we can remove the file later.
08:19 Joubu "Script to allow patrons to download the due dates for the books in ICalendar format" d40e78cf04af11cc1b72803c7ef8722ce1735fc5
08:19 mveron mtj: Thanks - it is a long journey... :-)
08:22 Joubu: Oh, that is a nice feature, but I do not find a way to trigger it. I would expect it on the 'your summary' page (opac-user.pl)
08:28 magnuse i remember that was talked about at some point
08:28 i think i made a bug for it
08:28 bug 5456
08:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Create a link to opac-ics.pl
08:30 magnuse wow, 5 years ago...
08:30 mveron, Joubu ^^
08:31 mveron magnuse ++
08:37 magnuse and mveron++ for the c4::dates work!
08:37 mveron :-)
08:38 magnuse excellent proof that we can modernize koha gradually over time
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08:51 magnuse kia ora Viktor
08:51 Viktor Kia ora Magnuse!
08:53 mtj Joubu: i think we have some consensus about an issue-tracker for the koha-qa repo
08:56 Joubu more or less, yes
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09:00 cait mveron: i think you can build an url with the right parameters...
09:00 butit might still be broken by now
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09:01 drojf hi #koha
09:02 cait hi drojf
09:03 drojf hi cait :)
09:03 * mveron waves to cait and drojf
09:03 cait morning mveron
09:03 mveron hi cait :-)
09:04 drojf hi mveron :)
09:04 mveron cait: I took a note about the url for the ics thing
09:05 Hi drojf :-)
09:13 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
09:13 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 15.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
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09:47 mveron @wunder Allschwil
09:47 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 16.0°C (11:30 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
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10:32 magnuse @wunder boo
10:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
10:53 Joubu fridolin: around?
11:05 * cait waves
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11:41 fridolin Joubu: yes
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11:43 fridolin Joubu: but I'm qwite buzy
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11:44 tcohen morning
11:45 cait morning tcohen
11:45 tcohen hi cait :-D
11:46 Joubu fridolin: context: bug 14666: Just to let you know that you should communicate and have a look at other works.
11:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14666 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , adds fixed_fines for overdues
11:46 Joubu Otherwise none of you will manage to integrate his work into master
11:48 fridolin Joubu: oki a BZ in particular ?
11:48 Joubu bug 14666...
11:49 and the ones I have linked last week
11:49 fridolin linked ?
11:49 Joubu "see also"
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11:58 fridolin in BZ 14666 ?
11:58 Joubu: ^
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12:10 magnuse huh, why does <intranet>/cgi-bin/koha/tools/overduerules.pl not show every patron category?
12:11 * druthb blames cait.
12:13 magnuse yeah, i was starting to lean that wat myself
12:13 s/wat/way/
12:13 druthb :P
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12:15 cait because you said 'no overdue notice# in the category type definiton
12:15 and i know this, because i field a bug for not all categories showing and was told that ;)
12:18 magnuse ah
12:19 that did the trick
12:19 cait++
12:19 * magnuse blames druthb for blaming cait
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12:20 magnuse that was quick
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12:21 tcohen hi again
12:22 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
12:24 tcohen hi magnuse
12:24 druthb hey!  magnuse, if I had not blamed cait, she might not have answered so quickly. So it's a good thing to blame her!  :P
12:24 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:24 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 16.0°C (9:20 AM ART on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
12:24 cait hmpf
12:30 tcohen cait: whatsup?
12:36 cait tcohen: they are blaming me for things working like they should
12:37 tcohen oh
12:40 jajm: bonjour
12:40 wahanui hey, tcohen
12:41 tcohen did u have any chance trying to integrate the restful api with the packages setup AND plack on packages?
12:42 Joubu: remind me the bug # for the patch removing DBIx::COnnector?
12:50 Joubu bug 14778
12:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Get rid of DBIx::Connector
12:51 magnuse druthb: so true!
12:56 * druthb hunts for something else to blame cait for.
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13:03 * cait goes :P in druthb's direction
13:04 druthb :)  :P
13:08 tcohen who has the reboot button for git?
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13:09 tcohen gmcharlt: could you take a look at the git repo? thanks!
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13:11 cait hm it seems working for me
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13:22 tcohen cait: git://git.koha-community.org/qa-test-tools.git
13:22 I cannot clone it
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13:54 tcohen #koha anyone around has access to the git server?
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14:06 tcohen thanks git.koha-community.org
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15:03 reiveune bye
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15:03 tcohen Joubu: Koha::Borrowers::Categories?
15:05 Koha::Borrower::Categor(y|es)
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15:16 Joubu tcohen: ?
15:16 Should have been Patron?
15:16 that's it?
15:17 tcohen nope, I was thinking... how should we standarize?
15:17 we have Koha::Borrowers
15:17 Joubu and already 4 modules in Koha::Borrower::*
15:18 that's why I didn't create a Koha::Patron
15:18 tcohen you patch introduces Koha::PatronCAtegories
15:18 bug 14836
15:18 Joubu ha
15:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14836 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the patron categories related code to Koha::PatronCategories
15:18 Joubu :D
15:19 I don't remember why I did that
15:19 but definitively, it's not the best one :)
15:19 Either Koha::Patron::Category or Koha::Borrower::Category
15:22 tcohen borrower coff coff
15:23 Joubu yes but... already 4 modules in i
15:23 t
15:24 but I'm ok to open the door :)
15:24 tcohen and the problem is.... ?
15:24 Joubu so you move it to Borrower?
15:24 * tcohen hides
15:24 Joubu sorry, not concentrate...
15:26 tcohen Joubu: au contraire
15:27 Joubu so go for Patron :)
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15:37 tcohen Joubu: nooooo
15:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14917: 700/710/711 fix path for icon in XSLT <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c314df2e462b1e1fe> / Bug 14518: Allow deleting records with holds (and no item) after confirmation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4902a087cff12dce3> / Bug 6379: Fix if the reviewer is not the same patron <http://git.koha-community.or
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15:55 nitz0 Hi people...
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16:01 nitz0 I mysqldump a DB from Koha 3.08, then I upload it to koha 3.20. Finally I mysqldump 3.20 and the size of boths SQLs files are not the same. Is that ok? Or I am losing information data?
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16:06 nitz0 cait_: Hi. Are you there?
16:22 @hi
16:22 huginn nitz0: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
16:22 Joubu tcohen: ?
16:22 your follow-up on bug 14888 is wrong
16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move the cities related code to Koha::Cities
16:24 Joubu @later tell tcohen IMPORTANT your followup on bug 14888 is wrong, revert! Otherwise the tests are not launched in a transaction and data are modified
16:24 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
16:30 Joubu bye
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17:30 * cait waves at mveron
17:31 * mveron waves back...
17:31 cait khall: the document delivery looks really interesting :)
17:32 khall thanks! still a work in progress, but it's getting close to done!
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17:36 mveron Hi khall :-)
17:36 khall good day mveron!
17:36 mveron khall: ....rather evening at our place :-)
17:37 khall lol
17:37 mveron khall: Are you expert for TalkingTech? I need somebody testing Bug 14960 (one of the files)
17:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14960 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files in misc/cronjobs (part 1)
17:38 khall I saw that. I suppose I *am* the TT expert. I'll put that bug on the todo list
17:38 mveron Great!
17:39 cait mveron: could you do me a favour? :)
17:39 a small one
17:39 just a quick test of bug 14377
17:39 mveron A recceipee?
17:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wsalesky, Failed QA , Indicate that a record is suppressed in staff client
17:39 mveron :-)
17:39 cait because i couldn't get it to work
17:39 in my installation
17:40 shouldn't take long
17:40 mveron cait: I will have a look...
17:40 cait thank you
17:40 i was puzzled by it, but I really couldn't get it to work
17:40 the test only showed up for me when i set the test to "1" to be always true
17:40 so the right XSLT file was used... but the condition was not true for my record...
18:00 mveron cait: It works for me - but I had to wait until the index cronjob triggered.
18:00 To be sure I changed 942n to 1 and additionally 245 a to something like Blahblah.
18:00 cait i reindexed manually, but it didn't show hm
18:00 Kchris I am testing the patch for bug 14776 on kohadevbox. Once the patch is applied, the SCO user's information disappears. But the OPAC language menus never display. I am thinking that this may be because I only have English installed. However, I haven't been able to install additional languages on the Kohadevbox.
18:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14776 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , SCO/shelfcheck 'log out' option redirects to OPAC, not back to SCO
18:00 mveron Then I searched for Blahblah...
18:00 cait how does your 942 look like?
18:01 could you try with 'my' 942 from the bug report?
18:01 mveron cait: in n I have 1
18:01 cait: Will try...
18:02 cait thank you
18:02 tcohen Joubu: hmpf
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18:06 mario back
18:07 tcohen khall: are you taking care of 14915?
18:07 Kchris If anyone has experience installing languages on Kohadevbox, advice would be most appreciated.
18:07 khall tcohen: not sure what you mean
18:08 tcohen khall: I just read my email and saw some concern from Jonatahn
18:08 khall yes, I had not seen that. I will look into it
18:08 tcohen was just checking if you were the one working on that bug
18:09 khall tcohen: yes I am!
18:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14888: Revert "Bug 14888: (QA followup) remove unused lib/var" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7cbfdae1745fa9fbf>
18:09 cait tcohen: does kohadevbox work like packages?
18:10 tcohen hi cait
18:10 cait hi tcohen
18:10 tcohen kohadevbox install the packages, and gitifies the install
18:10 so yes
18:10 cait so installing new languages...
18:11 tcohen you should use the ansible branch
18:11 Kchris hi cait, tcohen.
18:11 tcohen ah
18:11 good question
18:11 cait for Kchris
18:11 :)
18:11 tcohen for languages, perl translate install de
18:11 because koha-translate is not tweaked to work on the kohaclone dir
18:12 Kchris tcohen: I think I this is where I was getting stuck on a bug you proposed I attempt to "sign off" on earlier.
18:12 I couldn't get the languages to install on the kohadvebox.
18:13 tcohen oh, i'm sorry!
18:13 you should cd kohaclone/misc/translator
18:13 perl translate install <lang_code>
18:16 Kchris hmm. I think the perl libraries are not being located. or I don't have them installed.
18:17 "can't locate Koha/Config/SysPrefs.pm in @INC" etc
18:36 mveron cait: If I put an additional blank after the 1 in 942n it does not trigger. I have then to change the XSL, add the normalize-space function, and it works again.
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18:48 cait ah
18:48 i used the yesno authorised value
18:49 hm but it was not visible in the marcxml output
18:49 oh
18:49 could it be some replace thing for fields linked to authrosed values?
18:49 i will check that
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18:59 mveron cait: yesno doesn't seem to trigger at my site
18:59 cait did you link the authorised vlaue to the 942n ?
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19:00 cait it still stores the 1... but i think there might be some magic going on for display that breaks the check
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19:10 mveron cait: I tweaked the xsl to display the value for 942n, and it magically.... displays... Yes  :-)
19:10 cait argh
19:11 that means we got a problem
19:11 because the yes_no is translated
19:11 thx for the help mveron
19:11 mveron++
19:11 in german we have ja/nein etc.... not sure how to check that in xslt
19:12 and i think linking the field with an authorised value is recommended, but yes_no was introduced late... so not even that is a sure thing
19:14 mveron Welcome...
19:14 wahanui Welcome to zombo.com
19:14 mveron cait: I made some notes on the bug
19:14 cait oh awesome
19:14 i will check in a bit... doing the dishes first
19:34 mveron cait: I created an authorized value category ONE_ZERO and gave it 0 / 1 for the values and for all descriptions. It works, and it displays 1 or 0 correctly on 942 n fields that had YES_NO before
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20:31 wizzyrea has anyone else observed a problem with authority searching where the results don't turn up, on a fully up to date Jessie?
20:36 mveron Good night / daytime #koha  :-)
20:42 cait wizzyrea++
20:42 wizzyrea ?
20:42 cait mailing list :)
20:43 wizzyrea ohh
20:43 yeah I'm about to address his other 3.18.11 bug as well
20:43 I think his DB has gone funny
20:44 OpenSUSE, I mean who knows.
20:46 it all wfm - rather looks like he missed a db update or is using old mysql or he's somehow messed up his schema - case in point, auth_subfield_structure.linkid is a bit value, not an integer...
20:47 cait hm think i missed that one
20:48 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14952
20:48 huginn 04Bug 14952: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , web installer database errors on 3.18.11
20:48 wizzyrea I couldn't replicate either of them
20:48 cait hm maybe an even older problem
20:50 wizzyrea also in the schema, the address can be null so...
20:50 looks local.
20:51 cait hm yeah
20:51 wizzyrea well it can't be null, but it can be empty, I should say
20:52 anyway.
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21:34 eythian hi
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22:04 eythian @wunder nzwn
22:04 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on October 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
22:04 dcook @wunder syd
22:04 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Mascot, Mascot, New South Wales is 22.8°C (8:21 AM AEDT on October 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
22:04 eythian huh. above 14. Haven't seen that for a while
22:04 dcook You guys didn't get that heat yesterday?
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22:10 cdickinson it wasn't that hot yesterday, but god was it nice
22:11 and it's even better today
22:11 this is my favourtie weather, now if only I didn't have a cold
22:11 favourite*
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22:25 Francesca wahanui fire
22:25 wahanui I'm on fiiiiiiiiiiiyaaaaaaaaaaah!
22:25 Francesca fire is also http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/a[…]uring-live-stream
22:25 wahanui okay, Francesca.
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22:52 eythian http://www.androidplanet.nl/ni[…]allow-downloaden/ <-- wizzyrea, marshmallow is officially out now if you feel like a manual upgrade
22:52 wizzyrea nexus 4 :(
22:53 eythian ah
22:53 wizzyrea someday soon I might get a 5x
22:53 I really like my nexus 4
22:53 it's the perfect size.
22:53 dcook wizzyrea: how big is the screen?
22:53 Francesca I have a s5
22:53 dcook I find my S3 a bit on the hefty side..
22:53 Francesca do you think ti will get marshmallow
22:53 wizzyrea 4inch I think
22:53 Francesca I just replaced my s3
22:53 wizzyrea not for ages
22:54 Francesca sad
22:54 wizzyrea because samsung is daft.
22:54 dcook ^
22:54 wizzyrea it's just true.
22:54 they take ages.
22:54 Francesca ah well lollipop is cool
22:54 cdickinson wizzyrea: everyone but google
22:54 eythian wizzyrea: when you've had a better sized phone than the N4, it starts to feel like a tiny tiny iphone or something though :)
22:54 Francesca still want marshmellow though
22:54 wizzyrea because of their stupid proprietary UI
22:54 cdickinson I'm still on an S3 mini
22:54 wizzyrea idunno
22:54 cdickinson and I never got more than 4.1 Jelly Bean
22:54 CyanogenMod to the rescue
22:54 wizzyrea I play around with trea's bigger phone
22:54 Francesca My s3 got up to 4.3
22:54 dcook Yeah, I keep meaning to try CyanogenMod
22:54 Francesca I think
22:54 wizzyrea and it feels like carrying around a frikkin tablet.
22:54 dcook ^
22:55 Francesca My s5 came with lollipop out of the box
22:55 wizzyrea which, I don't much like.
22:55 Francesca you don't like lollipop?
22:55 wizzyrea I have a tablet for tablet-y things
22:55 eythian oh, rats. I can't manually update because I foolishly didn't unlock my bootloader when I got my new phone. I need to wait for the OTA update images.
22:55 cdickinson I have bigger hands than Francesca and I'm not sure about the size
22:55 wizzyrea no no I like lollipop just fine
22:55 eythian I have two hands.
22:55 Francesca I'd hope so
22:57 wizzyrea it's probably an actual security concern to not be on the latest android.
22:57 Francesca yeah
22:57 wizzyrea which is why I'll end up with a new phone sooner than later :(
22:57 one that I'll likely like less.
22:57 Francesca lollipop is quite cool and I don't wanna lose the awesome built in camera on samsung
22:57 why don't you use a custom ROM?
22:57 wizzyrea because I'm lazy :P
22:58 it may come to that
22:58 maybe.
22:58 Francesca lol
22:58 cdickinson CyanogenMod is good, but Lollipop is taxing on old hardware
22:58 wizzyrea well my tablet is probably due for a hardware refresh. I might not replace it though.
22:58 so a bigger phone might make sense
22:59 but seriously, holding some of these phones up to your head looks ridiculous.
22:59 dcook eythian: You have two hands? I must use my phone more than I should, as it always seems like one of my hands is occupied while the other is using the phone
22:59 That sounds worse than I mean...
22:59 wizzyrea it's like people who take pictures in public with an iPad
22:59 that is just silly.
22:59 dcook Carrying groceries, holding the bars on the bus..
22:59 wizzyrea (looking)
22:59 cdickinson lol
22:59 Francesca I have always needed 2 hands to use my phone
22:59 dcook wizzyrea: A friend lost her phone recently, so now she does phone calls on her iPad as well ;)
22:59 Francesca well not always
22:59 but I have small hands
22:59 wizzyrea I am so sorry for your friends.
22:59 friend*
23:00 dcook hehe
23:00 "I am so sorry for your friends."
23:00 Francesca the s5 is probably as a big as I'll go in screen sizes
23:00 dcook The context with that could make that so amusing..
23:00 wizzyrea well that isn't what I meant.
23:00 :P
23:00 dcook :p
23:00 eythian https://twitter.com/simonpegg/status/15788826307 <-- dcook
23:00 dcook Well, I count you as a friend, wizzyrea, so there we go :p
23:00 wizzyrea YES exactly
23:00 Francesca beautiful
23:00 dcook eythian: Yes. That.
23:00 wahanui i heard yes. that was what we are doing now. if we have more patrons then it becomes tough.
23:00 wizzyrea that is the perfect thing.
23:00 Francesca just why
23:01 why would you make calls on an ipad
23:01 dcook You don't have a phone?
23:01 cdickinson might as well be holding up our laptops to our ears in a couple of years
23:01 wizzyrea necessity, I'd reckon.
23:01 dcook cdickinson: Laptops?
23:01 Francesca hahahaha
23:01 wizzyrea I'd buy a $20 dumb phone before I'd do that.
23:01 dcook I'm hoping in a couple of years we won't even need laps
23:01 Francesca making a call on my macbook pro
23:01 hmmm
23:02 dcook See... I was thinking of a lapless life as being either a cyborg or some sort of digital consciousness, but now I can just imagine gruesome possibilities...
23:02 Francesca don't think it'd work somehow
23:02 dcook: should we be concerned
23:02 dcook That could make for an interesting short story...
23:02 All the rich transfer their consciousnesses to the web and the poor people tend the machines that keep them literally in power
23:02 Francesca maybe I should have written my essay on technology
23:02 instead of cats
23:03 dcook Then some visionary just decides to pull the power plug O_O
23:03 The rich will wish they invested in solar panels and wind power then...
23:03 Francesca lol
23:03 dcook Technology cats...
23:04 Francesca duh duh duuuuuh
23:04 smartcats
23:04 dcook If only I had rapid photoshop skills to make a Thundercats gif with them all wearing nerd glasses...
23:04 cdickinson iCats
23:04 * dcook figures this gif exists now that he's typed that sentence out
23:04 Francesca hahaha probably
23:05 cdickinson http://www.research.philips.co[…]images/icat-0.jpg
23:05 creepy
23:05 Francesca there is an ibin outside the pire street dairy
23:05 dcook Oh no...
23:05 * dcook closes his HexChat window for a bit
23:05 dcook Too creeped out :p
23:06 cdickinson /clear is your friend
23:06 Francesca it gets rid of everything
23:08 wizzyrea smh
23:08 Francesca smh?
23:08 dcook Sydney Morning Herald
23:08 * dcook giggles
23:08 cdickinson lol
23:08 Shaking My Head
23:08 dcook The funny thing is that "smh...smh" still works
23:08 Francesca oh ok
23:09 dcook Ok, actually closing this window
23:09 cdickinson that's something wahanui could do that's actually useful for a change
23:09 dcook Err minimizing...
23:09 Francesca lol ok
23:09 cdickinson outside of nslookup, which is awesome
23:12 Francesca alright I should probably go
23:13 *sigh*
23:13 have work to do at home
23:16 papa joined #koha
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23:55 dcook "The DOM XML record model is experimental, and its inner workings might change in future releases of the Zebra Information Server."
23:55 Didn't know that...
23:55 * dcook wonders how old that statement is
23:56 dcook Fun software idea:
23:57 Government announces a 13th month and mandates that all software must be updated to support this new 13th month
23:57 I suppose that's actually not that bad...
23:57 It would be worse if we did away with months and just used years and days...
23:59 Is there an ISO format for taking into account planetary time differences?
23:59 * dcook needs more science friends

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