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| 02:23 | eythian | wizzyrea: is having an entry in both 100 and 110 considered incorrect? |
| 02:23 | I thought someone told me it was, but I'm seeing it in some data. | |
| 02:24 | On the other hand, I probably don't care overly much. | |
| 02:24 | wizzyrea | hm. |
| 02:24 | I feel like you could have both | |
| 02:24 | hmmm loc it would seem wants one or the other. | |
| 02:25 | eythian | OK cool |
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| 02:25 | eythian | I'm calling this data invalid and ignoring the slightly weird case it causes then |
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| 03:01 | eythian | wahanui: drama llama is <reply>http://i.imgur.com/9UgxHdD.jpg |
| 03:01 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
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| 03:01 | * eythian | saves for future use |
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| 03:11 | * Francesca | is frustrated |
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| 03:20 | eythian | wahanui: wizzyrea is also <reply>lizardrea |
| 03:20 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 03:20 | wizzyrea | lol |
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| 03:25 | * wizzyrea | nods |
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| 03:57 | dcook | For evidence that dcook likes a good rant, check out bug 11297 |
| 03:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11297 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Signed Off , Add support for custom PQF attributes for Z39.50 server searches. |
| 03:57 | dcook | Also for evidence that dcook sometimes changes his mind about things ;) |
| 03:58 | @later tell eythian awesome that you fixed your flights :) | |
| 03:58 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:58 | eythian | I'm still here |
| 03:58 | dcook | :D |
| 03:58 | I totally missed the fact that they reserved a block of rooms... | |
| 03:58 | I figured since last year accomodation was survival of the fittest that this year it wouldn't be organized either... | |
| 03:58 | eythian | I got one of them |
| 03:58 | dcook | I got one of the few remaining rooms that weren't part of the block |
| 03:59 | eythian | doh |
| 03:59 | I presume the block ones were cheaper? | |
| 03:59 | I'm not sure | |
| 03:59 | dcook | Yeah, the block ones were cheaper |
| 03:59 | I think we bought a flexible reservation though, so if something bad did happen I could bail at the last moment like last time | |
| 04:00 | Although baby's heartbeat seemed strong this morning :) | |
| 04:01 | I had a huge rant about PQF on bugzilla once upon a time but I can't remember what issue it was... | |
| 04:01 | Or do I.. | |
| 04:01 | It had to do with the OPAC.. | |
| 04:02 | OpacSuppresion I think.. | |
| 04:02 | bug 10542 Bam! | |
| 04:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10542 critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, CLOSED FIXED, QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries' |
| 04:02 | dcook | Of course, my esoteric knowledge of Z39.50, PQF, and Zebra might go out with window when ElasticSearch takes over ;) |
| 04:03 | eythian | I like to think ES is much more sane |
| 04:03 | dcook | I like to think so too |
| 04:08 | cdickinson | beer o'clock |
| 04:08 | wahanui | beer o'clock is a vital part of the Koha development process. |
| 04:08 | cdickinson | the bell hasn't rung yet |
| 04:08 | aleisha | wait for the ding |
| 04:08 | cdickinson | that's also the sound for tequila o'clock |
| 04:09 | Francesca | consult the printer |
| 04:09 | cdickinson | it says it's low on black toner |
| 04:09 | * Francesca | facepalms |
| 04:09 | wahanui | http://buikitty.files.wordpres[…]120202-094434.jpg |
| 04:09 | Francesca | who taught him that? its gold |
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| 06:16 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:34 | fridolin | hie |
| 06:34 | marcelr | hi #koha fridolin |
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| 06:51 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:55 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:58 | Joubu | hi |
| 06:58 | wahanui | hey, Joubu |
| 07:01 | Joubu | xarragon_: Are you around? |
| 07:02 | @later tell xarragon_ Did you manage to deal with your TestBuilder issue? | |
| 07:02 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 07:25 | xarragon_ | Joubu: Well I simply removed the constraint. |
| 07:27 | Joubu | no really a good idea I suppose :) |
| 07:27 | not* | |
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| 07:58 | MichaelZ_UNNC | Hello everybody |
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| 08:08 | magnuse | hm, i'm getting "$ sudo koha-stop-zebra x" --> "Zebra already stopped for instance x" when zebra is in fact running. i thought eythian had a fix for that but now i can't find it. anyone got a clue? |
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| 08:59 | cait | morning #koha |
| 09:00 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 09:01 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 09:01 | magnuse | morning? |
| 09:01 | cait | morning magnuse :) |
| 09:16 | sophie_m | hello |
| 09:16 | wahanui | niihau, sophie_m |
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| 09:17 | sophie_m | can someone tell me when 3.18.11 will be ready ? |
| 09:17 | cait | sophie_m: i saw liz was pushing patches, but you'd have to ask her about the release date i think |
| 09:20 | sophie_m | thank you cait, liz not around |
| 09:21 | cait | yeah, nz is hard to catch for us - maybe email? |
| 09:21 | sophie_m | yes cait, done, thanks |
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| 09:33 | cait | hi paul_p |
| 09:34 | paul_p | hi cait & others. |
| 09:38 | * Francesca | waves |
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| 10:51 | mtj | bug 14361 magnuse? |
| 10:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14361 major, P3, ---, benjamin.rokseth, Pushed to Stable , koha-restart-zebra fails and probably breaks upgrade |
| 10:54 | magnuse | mtj: possibly! i'll see if the upgrade to 3.20.4 fixes it, but i'm waiting another week for that |
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| 11:50 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 12:06 | drojf | the new 3.18 is not out yet, is it? |
| 12:07 | cait | i don't think so, sophie_m asked about it earier as well |
| 12:07 | and hi drojf ;) | |
| 12:08 | drojf | ok then i'll send an email only for 3.10 to the german list :) |
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| 12:10 | cait | 3.10? |
| 12:10 | wahanui | 3.10 is Koha 3.10 was released 23 November 2012 |
| 12:14 | drojf | 3.20 |
| 12:14 | heh | |
| 12:14 | i hope i wrote 3.20 in the email :D | |
| 12:15 | cait | you are always so 'fleissig' |
| 12:15 | that's only in quotes because german - I meant it nicely :) | |
| 12:22 | drojf | i am? :) |
| 12:22 | i feel lazy most of the time | |
| 12:22 | :P | |
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| 12:33 | drojf | elasticsearch? |
| 12:33 | wahanui | i heard elasticsearch was mosying along. I really ought to break out the bits I've had to build to support it, like Koha::Biblio and such. |
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| 12:35 | drojf | if i want to play with ES, should i still use the catalyst repo? or what is on the bug on BZ? |
| 12:36 | cait | there is abug and it links to the branch i think |
| 12:36 | or the rfc in the wiki | |
| 12:36 | hopefully linking both to the same branch | |
| 12:38 | drojf | yes i have the link |
| 12:38 | lol | |
| 12:38 | Joubu | drojf: use the catalyst/elastic_search branch |
| 12:39 | drojf | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ds/elastic_search |
| 12:39 | * cait | waves at Joubu |
| 12:40 | xarragon_ | Hmm, so I essentially need to turn a dbix resultset to and from json. Would it be reasonable to put that inside a Koha::Object class pair? |
| 12:41 | And then just add like.. Koha::MyStuff::Foobar class with a to_json and from_json methods. | |
| 12:41 | It would be a collection of rows, so I guess it would go in the plural, "Foobars" class? | |
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| 12:43 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:43 | drojf | thanks cait and Joubu |
| 12:43 | hi tcohen | |
| 12:44 | tcohen | hi drojf Joubu cait |
| 12:56 | jajm: around? | |
| 12:56 | jajm | tcohen, hi |
| 12:57 | tcohen | i didn't succeed running the api on plack with the packages plack.psgi file |
| 12:57 | i created a followup for the tests to make them independent on the existing data | |
| 12:58 | * ashimema | thinks if it's at all possible we should run mojo stuff on a mojo server.. hypnotoad for instance.. as it gives us event loops and other mojo clever stuffs without any extra work on our part |
| 12:58 | does also udnerstand why were trying to use plack for all | |
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| 13:04 | tcohen | ashimema: we cannot reach a consensus on the use of mojo, zero feedback on the plack integration... how do u think it would work if we even proposed to use a different server? |
| 13:06 | ashimema: and I think we can do it, but first steps first | |
| 13:07 | ashimema | I agree.. lets get it working on plack first.. |
| 13:07 | has anyone ventured to ask the Mojo guys how they might do what we're trying to do? | |
| 13:08 | tcohen | ashimema: i tried a couple days ago |
| 13:08 | ashimema | ah.. take it you didn't get much joy from it then |
| 13:08 | :9 | |
| 13:09 | xarragon_ | Speaking of caching, are dev installations supposed to run slower than normal installs? |
| 13:09 | tcohen | ehh |
| 13:09 | ashimema | not that I know of xarragon_ |
| 13:09 | tcohen | ashimema: no answer heh |
| 13:10 | xarragon_ | Because on a modern i5 laptop with an SSD opac-main takes about 2 seconds.. A bit less with memcached but still slow. |
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| 13:11 | ashimema | really.. |
| 13:11 | wahanui | i heard really was more trouble than she's worth. |
| 13:11 | drojf | oh i'm cloning into a wheezy-vm. is jessie required for the ES-branch or will it work on wheezy too? |
| 13:12 | i guess i will find out eventually ;) | |
| 13:13 | ashimema | not tired it drojf.. |
| 13:13 | fingers crossed it works for you | |
| 13:14 | drojf | "Oh, and this requires Debian Jessie, as most of the old dependencies made it into there." well no i am almost there so i will try anyway ;) |
| 13:14 | *now | |
| 13:15 | tcohen | drojf: just use the damn vagrant up jessie thing :-P |
| 13:15 | xarragon_ | I have no idea what you're all doing, but if it is Perl module deps you are talking about, setting up a separate cpan install for Koha is pretty easy. |
| 13:15 | drojf | later :D |
| 13:16 | ashimema | :) |
| 13:16 | catron + plenv = <B | |
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| 13:18 | drojf | no thats not gonna work |
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| 14:26 | drojf | Content Warning: The information presented in this chapter is for your interest |
| 14:26 | lol | |
| 14:26 | i sure hope so | |
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| 15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:02 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14505: single quotes in journal number cause print routing list window to not... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cd82050ca6437f0d4> / Bug 14217: Add 'condition' attribute for DOM index definition <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3cdc417cd798e0ab4> / Bug 14873: Remove C4::Dates from reserve/request.pl <http://gi |
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| 15:04 | nitz0 | hi people |
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| 15:23 | drojf | i know it's not the purpose of elasticsearch in koha, but couldn't we in theory throw everything in there instead of SQL? |
| 15:26 | (and wouldn't that be a lot of fun refactoring? :D) | |
| 15:27 | liw | out of idle curiosity: how much data is there in a Koha database for a medium sized library? i.e., how big is an SQL dump for backups? |
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| 15:36 | jcamins | drojf: ES doesn't really go in for ACID-compliance. |
| 15:38 | Joubu | drojf: That could be done for some entities, patrons for instance |
| 15:38 | Have to go, good week-end! | |
| 15:38 | drojf | Joubu: patrons was actually the first thing i was thinking of |
| 15:39 | you too | |
| 15:39 | the good weekend, i mean :) | |
| 15:40 | jcamins: but when i learn ES now, i want to use it for everything! | |
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| 16:46 | ashimema | that would be nice drojf |
| 16:47 | there's nothing really stopping us from indexing stuff elsewhere.. | |
| 16:47 | though would only be worthwhile if we actually feel retrieval from one index is faster/better from one indexer compared to another | |
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| 17:19 | tcohen | jcamins: Koha doesn't use transaction, does it? |
| 17:22 | nitz0 | bug 1861 |
| 17:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1861 normal, P4, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Unique patrons logins not (totally) enforced |
| 17:26 | tcohen | hi nitz0 |
| 17:28 | nitz0 | hi tcohen |
| 17:28 | tcohen | whatsup? |
| 17:32 | nitz0 | daily mysqldump and restore. Just testing. I read, while I was running koha-upgrade-schema, that it seems to be duplicated users login. |
| 17:33 | Upgrade to 3.19.00.003 done (Bug 1861 - Unique patrons logins not (totally) enforced) FAILED! | |
| 17:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1861 normal, P4, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Unique patrons logins not (totally) enforced |
| 17:33 | nitz0 | Your database has users with duplicate user logins. etc |
| 17:34 | tcohen | yeap, you should fix them, and run the alter table after that |
| 17:36 | nitz0 | the work is manually, right? |
| 17:36 | tcohen | nitz0: something like this might help |
| 17:36 | SELECT surname,firstname,email,cardnumber,userid,borrowernumber FROM borrowers WHERE userid IS NULL OR userid=""; | |
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| 17:37 | tcohen | because that is the cause of duplicates (mostly) on my dbs |
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| 17:38 | tcohen | nitz0: also this SELECT userid FROM (SELECT userid,COUNT(userid) AS the_count FROM borrowers GROUP BY userid) a WHERE the_count > 1 |
| 17:39 | jcamins | tcohen: no, but we do use MySQL's consistency and durability guarantees. |
| 17:41 | nitz0 | ok tcohen, thx. |
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| 17:52 | nitz0 | tcohen : the first sql shows 1526 results. |
| 17:53 | tcohen | nitz0: that means you are not providing your patrons with logins |
| 17:53 | just put their emails there | |
| 17:54 | like UPDATE borrowers SET userid=email WHERE (userid='' OR userid IS NULL) AND email<>''; | |
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| 18:10 | nitz0 | ready, fixed userid=cardnumber because not all users have email. |
| 18:10 | noy ALTER TABLE? | |
| 18:11 | tcohen | it's in the upgrade logs |
| 18:11 | nitz0 | thx |
| 18:12 | tcohen | ALTER TABLE borrowers DROP INDEX userid, ADD UNIQUE userid (userid) |
| 18:17 | nitz0 | good, thx again. finished. |
| 18:19 | tcohen | nitz0: glad to hear. it is always great to start the weekend with a win |
| 18:43 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14883: Librarians are not warned if patron is restricted when placing holds <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6da343495af377d2f> / Bug 14882: Librarians are not warned if patron owe more than maxoutstanding when... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]297a311f6143f459e> / Bug 14710: Make the export checkout list expo |
| 18:53 | tcohen | bye |
| 18:53 | have a nice weekend | |
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| 19:13 | barton | @seen Joubu |
| 19:14 | huginn | barton: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 35 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <Joubu> Have to go, good week-end! |
| 19:14 | barton | ah, durn. |
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| 19:47 | tcohen | hi |
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| 20:18 | tcohen | khall_away: maybe it depends on how slow is the mysql server you are testing against? |
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| 21:28 | nitz0 | well people, bye all. thx allways. |
| 21:34 | tcohen | http://snag.gy/73yJf.jpg |
| 21:34 | oops | |
| 21:56 | bye everyone | |
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