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| 00:00 | Francesca | we've not been abandoned! |
| 00:00 | nether | |
| 00:00 | cdickinson | I hereby proclaim myself as the Technical Lead of Koha at Catalyst |
| 00:00 | Francesca | we need Chris |
| 00:00 | rangi actually since irc | |
| 00:00 | BobB | the wellington team is widespread though |
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| 00:00 | Francesca | we're just the minions |
| 00:01 | it just so happens that we're also the only people in the koha office at the moment | |
| 00:01 | ibeardslee | .. well behave yourself then |
| 00:02 | Francesca | but of course |
| 00:02 | cdickinson | .......right |
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| 01:53 | * Francesca | waves at kathryn |
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| 04:07 | Francesca | @later tell rangi hi do you want me to put the koha icon in the header for the new bugzilla skin? |
| 04:07 | huginn | Francesca: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:15 | Francesca | @later tell rangi look! progress in bugzilla! http://i.imgur.com/DaxwMA2.png |
| 04:15 | huginn | Francesca: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:12 | irma | so if 538$a can't be used, I suggest 942$nSuppress in OPAC |
| 05:12 | https://bomdevel2-admin.calyx.[…]rameworkcode=DF20 | |
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| 05:30 | Francesca | @later tell ibeardslee hey do you want any helpers for the open source academy this summer? |
| 05:30 | huginn | Francesca: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:30 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 05:30 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:12 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 06:12 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:12 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 06:13 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 06:13 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:13 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 12.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1032 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:13 | magnuse | summer is back! |
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| 06:31 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:31 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
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| 06:39 | * magnuse | waves again |
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| 07:01 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:01 | wahanui | hey, gaetan_B |
| 07:01 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:08 | magnuse | there is no way to show the item level itemtype icons in opac result lists in koha, right? |
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| 07:13 | putti | Hi ! |
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| 08:23 | cait | morning #koha |
| 08:23 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 08:37 | drojf | hi cait |
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| 08:50 | * andreashm | waves |
| 08:50 | cait | hi magnus, drojf and andreashm :) |
| 08:51 | andreashm | hi cait |
| 08:52 | magnuse | hiya andreashm |
| 08:52 | pastebot | "andreashm" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "OAI" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/68 |
| 08:53 | andreashm | sigh, running into trouble with my testing of the OAI-PMH harvester with Kohadevbox. |
| 08:53 | magnuse: could you take a look at the paste and see if you have any idea what I did wrong? | |
| 08:53 | oh, and hi magnuse! | |
| 08:54 | (should maybe have started with that) | |
| 08:54 | magnuse | :-) |
| 08:55 | that is probably a result of running gitified | |
| 08:56 | andreashm | any possible solution magnuse, or should I talk to dcook about it? |
| 08:57 | (or anyone else that might know? cait?) | |
| 08:57 | magnuse | try something like $ sudo koha-shell -c "perl -I/home/vagrant/kohaclone kohaclone/misc/cronjobs/oai/oai_harvester.pl -d -v" kohadev |
| 08:58 | it is more of a kohadevbox/gitified problem, than a problem with dcook's work | |
| 08:58 | andreashm | You are brilliant magnuse! |
| 08:58 | It seemed to work! | |
| 08:58 | magnuse++ | |
| 09:00 | magnuse | yay! |
| 09:00 | with -I you can add paths to @INC | |
| 09:01 | andreashm | cool |
| 09:01 | I will so definitely save that info° | |
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| 09:40 | cait | i shoudl save that info too :) |
| 09:40 | magnuse++ | |
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| 09:44 | cait | hi paul_p |
| 09:44 | paul_p | hi cait |
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| 10:08 | saiful | hi, i want to know if there's a reason the old_issues.issue_id is not 'auto_increment' |
| 10:09 | i'm referring the to the database schema in 3.20x | |
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| 10:45 | cait | saiful: the id is from issues |
| 10:46 | old_issues contains the old entries from issues, which already have a unique id when they are moved to that table | |
| 10:46 | Francesca | hi |
| 10:47 | cait | hi Francesca :) |
| 10:47 | Francesca | yay company! |
| 10:47 | cdickinson says hi | |
| 10:47 | cait | :) |
| 10:47 | Francesca | wahanui botsnack smiley face |
| 10:47 | wahanui | thanks Francesca :) |
| 10:48 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 10:48 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:30 PM NZST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:50 | saiful | thanks cait for the clarification |
| 10:52 | but i think, this will be a problem during circulation history migration | |
| 10:53 | cait | if it autoincremented - the numbers would get doubled up |
| 10:53 | between those 2 tables | |
| 10:53 | i guess what you could do is look at the sql that introduced the ids - it's not so long ago - and see how to fill in old data | |
| 10:53 | saiful | but is there a reason the issue_id has to be same in those two tables? |
| 10:53 | cait | you could add ac ounter yourself and then adjust the counter for the issues table maybe |
| 10:53 | saiful | i don't see any relationship in the table schema |
| 10:54 | cait | yes |
| 10:54 | it is the unique key and could be referenced in other places | |
| 10:55 | it's a unique key for the issue process, it shoudln't change becuse we move it to another talbe - it's still the same process you can refer to | |
| 10:55 | saiful | i migrated currently checked out issues to issues table, then imported circulation history to old_issues table |
| 10:55 | the problem will happen when the checked out books gets returned | |
| 10:56 | cait | yeah, i think you can set the key on the table to a value |
| 10:56 | in issues | |
| 10:56 | so it skips the numbers you have in old_issues | |
| 10:57 | saiful | I set the old_issues.issue_id to auto_increment before importing.. and the site has gone live now |
| 10:57 | i guess, I need to re-import the data with manual primary key counter in old_issues table | |
| 10:57 | Francesca | night cait, #koha |
| 10:58 | cait | saiful: make sure you also adjust the counter in the issues table then - i know it can be done, becasue the migration script did it - but not of the top of my head |
| 11:12 | saiful | thanks cait |
| 11:12 | i think the correct strategy to migrate circulation history would be to first import everything into issues table | |
| 11:13 | then move the rows with returndate to old_issues table | |
| 11:13 | cait | hm probably the easiest |
| 11:13 | saiful | that way we'll not violate the PK on old_issues table |
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| 11:54 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 11:54 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 7.3°C (8:50 AM ART on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:54 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:55 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 11:55 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:55 | magnuse | woohoo! |
| 11:55 | hiya tcohen | |
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| 11:59 | tcohen | magnuse: that's warm! |
| 11:59 | in Cordoba, we envy your warm weather :-D | |
| 12:05 | nengard | @wunder 78754 |
| 12:05 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in Four Seasons, Austin, Texas is 23.9°C (7:05 AM CDT on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:06 | nengard | :) |
| 12:06 | tcohen come visit Austin :) | |
| 12:06 | tcohen | i'd love to :-D |
| 12:08 | magnuse | tcohen: it sure is warm for the middle of september! |
| 12:08 | tcohen | .-D |
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| 12:08 | magnuse | and we have promises of 21 during the weekend |
| 12:08 | nengard | tcohen if you're okay with my furry children there is a room just for guests :) |
| 12:08 | * tcohen | is presenting Koha in the Fedora Users and Developers Conference in an hour |
| 12:08 | nengard | you're welcome whenever |
| 12:09 | tcohen | thanks magnuse and nengard: i'll be there at some point :-D |
| 12:09 | i plan to show debian's logo really big on the screen | |
| 12:09 | ehh | |
| 12:09 | only to tell them they are falling behind | |
| 12:09 | nengard | :) |
| 12:10 | tcohen | there will be a couple package maintainers that are interested in creating what is needed to have a koha package for koha-common |
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| 12:15 | magnuse | tcohen: a *Fedora* package for koha-common? |
| 12:16 | tcohen | yeah, i still don't have enough coffee on my system |
| 12:16 | they want to make (our) oldstable, official on the current Fedora version | |
| 12:17 | logo? | |
| 12:17 | wahanui | rumour has it logo is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_and_Explanation |
| 12:23 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7241] circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7241> |
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| 13:21 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 13:21 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:21 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
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| 15:21 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:08 | nitz0 | good morning wahanui (?) |
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| 18:15 | drojf | great to see that good old windows version of koha is still "alive" |
| 18:17 | tcohen: http://cid-6ac4b4f2fe0a3144.of[…]a2.2.9-W32-R1.EXE if you wanna try :P | |
| 18:18 | oh sorry that link is dead | |
| 18:18 | * tcohen | downloads it, while wipes his Ubuntu to install Window$ 7 |
| 18:19 | is enjoying "the unsung heroes of Koha" epub | |
| 18:19 | drojf | http://downloads.lisolutions.o[…]a2.2.8-W32-R0.EXE |
| 18:19 | ha# | |
| 18:19 | ha! | |
| 18:20 | sorry i should have off-ed that | |
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| 18:26 | Peggy | I'm trying to solve a problem that my library has. When someone does a search for a title they get up to 6 different bib records for all the different formats. And if they weren't really specific (i.e. they typed "Harry Potter") they are likely to give up before they find the book they are looking for. |
| 18:27 | I like the Editions tab in the records. And I'm wondering if it would be possible (albeit probably pretty complicated and expensive) to change the summary screen to reflect the work rather that the individual bib records. | |
| 18:28 | Would it be possible to have one result in the summary screen for each title, and have an intermediate screen that lists the different formats? Then they could choose the format to go to the detail screen. | |
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| 18:32 | wnickc | Hi Peggy, I think that you are looking for FRBR support in Koha |
| 18:33 | I don't know if anyone is working on it currently | |
| 18:35 | Peggy | Yup. I searched the support site and found a presentation that mentioned one site, but that site is in arabic and french, so it was hard for me to tell exactly what was going on. |
| 18:38 | We seem to have the data available, but the FRBR info used to create the editions tab comes from an external source, so I wonder if performance would ever be good enough. | |
| 18:41 | http://alkindi.ideo-cairo.org/ | |
| 18:41 | wnickc | I think it's a move that would be supported, I would try sending something out on the lists |
| 18:41 | but it is big, and would need a big push | |
| 18:42 | and a lot of decision on the how | |
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| 18:44 | Peggy | Thanks. I think others would like it, too. |
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| 18:46 | wnickc | I agree, you could also try here on another day, Friday afternoons are slow |
| 18:48 | Peggy | will do. |
| 18:48 | wnickc | where are you from Peggy? just curious |
| 18:56 | Peggy | New Hampshire. We're one of Bywater's customers |
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| 18:58 | wnickc | VT Bywater customer here :-) In Hartford (Quechee) |
| 18:58 | cait | hi wnickc?:) |
| 18:58 | wnickc | Hi cait |
| 18:58 | cait | VT? |
| 18:58 | wnickc | Vermont |
| 18:58 | cait | oh :) |
| 18:58 | not familiar with those abbreviations | |
| 18:59 | wnickc | don't worry, state abbreviations are wierd and not obvious |
| 18:59 | Peggy | So we are neighbors, wnickc. |
| 18:59 | Hi Cait! | |
| 18:59 | wnickc | missouri = mo, montana=mt, you'd never guess them all |
| 18:59 | cait | hi Peggy :) |
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| 19:31 | barton | hey, I was wondering if there was a quick and reliable way to find out which release a bug was pushed to master in. |
| 19:33 | is there a calender which shows when releases were released? | |
| 19:37 | wnickc | barton:last time I asked, the answer was no to question 1 |
| 19:37 | about->timeline in master has dates for releases | |
| 19:38 | barton | thanks, that's good to know. |
| 19:40 | wnickc | took me a second to figure out why our timeline in production stops in the past |
| 19:40 | Peggy | maybe we could request that a note be put in each bugzilla bug when it is added in a particular release. |
| 19:42 | barton | yeah... thats strange -- I looked at the timeline for a 3.18.06.000 server; it stopped at June 23 2013 -- Koha 3.12.1 released. |
| 19:43 | Peggy: yeah, that's always nice to have, but I far prefer the reliability of computers :-) | |
| 19:44 | besides, having an automated tool means that we can figure it out retroactively when it isn't there. | |
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| 20:13 | nitz0 | Irma Tando? |
| 20:17 | pianohacker | Peggy: hi! Are you with dovernet? |
| 20:24 | bag | should stick hre |
| 20:24 | here | |
| 20:24 | pianohacker | ha! |
| 20:27 | Peggy | Hi Pianohacker. Yes, I'm with Dovernet. |
| 20:28 | pianohacker | Peggy: Hi! I'm Jesse Weaver with ByWater |
| 20:28 | Peggy | Hi Jesse! |
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| 20:31 | nitz0 | tcohen! |
| 20:32 | tcohen | nitz0! |
| 20:36 | * cait | waves |
| 20:39 | nitz0 | actualice del 3.08.01.002 al 3.18.10.000 con todo funcionando sin el minimo problema |
| 20:41 | tcohen | nitz0: that's expected :-D |
| 20:42 | congratulations! | |
| 20:42 | why not 3.20 :-D? | |
| 20:43 | nitz0 | it's possible to upgrade 3.18 to 3.20 without mysqldump and all that upgrade schema? (is not a lot of work, just asking) |
| 20:45 | bag | @roulette spin |
| 20:45 | huginn | *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky? |
| 20:46 | bag | @roulette |
| 20:46 | huginn | bag: *click* |
| 20:47 | cait | nitz0: you should always do a backup |
| 20:47 | technically it works without a dump | |
| 20:48 | not sure what you mean by upgrade schema? | |
| 20:48 | hi bag :) | |
| 20:48 | bag | hi cait |
| 20:48 | tcohen | nitz0: no worries, we are really proud of 3.20 :-D |
| 20:48 | hi bag | |
| 20:50 | bag | heya tcohen |
| 20:50 | @roulette | |
| 20:50 | huginn | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 20:50 | * huginn | reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 20:50 | bag | ha |
| 20:52 | cait | bad day at the office? |
| 20:52 | pianohacker | poor huginn, no ops :) |
| 20:52 | nitz0 | cait: I did a packet install in my computer. Then I import a DB dump from a 3.08v and run all commands lines to set up the 3.18v. I was asking my self if there is a way, now, not to do the same process. If there is a way to just upgrade from 3.18v to 3.20v. |
| 20:52 | cdickinson | you unlucky europeans, still working this week |
| 20:52 | cait | cdickinson: nope we are done |
| 20:52 | bag | nah but cait - I am crazy hungry - which makes me grumpy |
| 20:52 | cait | it's 22:52 here :) |
| 20:53 | nitz0: you just install th enew package i think :) | |
| 20:53 | cdickinson | 08:52 Saturday here |
| 20:53 | cait | doing a backup first |
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| 20:53 | cait | cdickinson: we have way more of the weekend left ;) |
| 20:53 | so i think the answer is yes | |
| 20:53 | tcohen: you stop me if i say nonsense, right? :) | |
| 20:54 | tcohen | cait? |
| 20:55 | hmpf | |
| 20:55 | cait | ohoh |
| 20:56 | tcohen: about nitz0 question - updating with packages | |
| 20:56 | tcohen | ah, right |
| 20:56 | nitz0: change from oldstable to stable | |
| 20:56 | wahanui | tcohen: that doesn't look right |
| 20:57 | tcohen | in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list |
| 20:57 | sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | |
| 20:57 | and it will autoagically run koha-upgrade-schema for your instances | |
| 20:58 | *automagically* | |
| 20:58 | cait | updating is cool :) |
| 20:58 | nitz0 | ok, let's magically try |
| 20:59 | tcohen | nitz0: one caveat (we are going to have fixed soon ;-)) but not yet |
| 20:59 | if you have non-populated instances | |
| 20:59 | (like if you created an instance but never loaded a db or run the webinstaller | |
| 21:02 | nitz0 | Ok, no problem, I don't undertand what that means. What that limitation is. No problem. I will learn it day by day. |
| 21:03 | cait | it only applies if you have created more than one instance |
| 21:04 | like a second library running form the same code, but haven't finished the installation | |
| 21:04 | if you haven't done that... you probably won't have a poblem :) | |
| 21:04 | nitz0 | great |
| 21:04 | I didn't | |
| 21:10 | tcohen | nitz0: then go for it! |
| 21:11 | apt-get upgrade for the win! | |
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| 21:26 | nitz0 | vie sep 11 18:26:03 ART 2015 |
| 21:43 | Is there a way to know koha version using, for example, koha-shell? | |
| 21:44 | cait | koha shows it on the about page |
| 21:45 | on file level... there should be kohaversion.pl with the version | |
| 21:45 | but i am not sure where the file is in a package installation | |
| 21:49 | nitz0 | Well, it's ok. I was just playing with koha-* commands. |
| 21:50 | Anyway, Version de Koha:3.20.03.000 | |
| 21:50 | mtj | nitz0: you can ask dpkg for a koha version |
| 21:51 | $ dpkg -l koha-common | |
| 21:51 | ii koha-common 3.20.02 all integrated (physical) library man | |
| 21:52 | ..something like that? ^ | |
| 21:52 | bag | heya mtj |
| 21:54 | nitz0 | Deseado=Desconocido/Instalar/Eliminar/Purgar/Retener |
| 21:54 | | Estado=No/Instalado/Config-files/Desempaquetado/Medio-conf/Medio-inst/espera-disparo/pendiente-disparo | |
| 21:54 | |/ Err?=(ninguno)/Requiere-reinst (Estado,Err: mayúsc.=malo) | |
| 21:54 | ||/ Nombre Versión Arquitectura Descripción | |
| 21:54 | +++-=========================================-===================================================-============-=============================================================================== | |
| 21:54 | ii koha-common 3.20.03 all integrated (physical) library management system | |
| 21:54 | Ju | |
| 21:55 | well, thats not so clean here | |
| 21:56 | ii koha-common 3.20.03 all integrated (physical) library management system | |
| 21:56 | very easy, all up to date... | |
| 21:57 | thx mtj, cait, tcohen and pianohacker. | |
| 21:57 | see you next week. | |
| 21:57 | bye | |
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| 22:11 | * mtj | waves to bag, cait, tcohen |
| 22:12 | cait | hi mtj :) |
| 22:12 | mtj | i am just getting ready to head outside for a bushwalk |
| 22:13 | so, will catch y'all later | |
| 22:14 | have a great weekend #koha | |
| 22:16 | ciao cait, bag ;0) | |
| 22:20 | bag | enjoy the bush |
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