IRC log for #koha, 2015-08-12

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00:01 tcohen where should I put the psgi file?
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00:02 tcohen /etc/koha/koha.psgi? /usr/share/bin/plack/koha.psgi
00:04 eythian: opinion?
00:06 * Francesca waves
00:08 tcohen hi Francesca
00:08 Francesca hey tcohen
00:30 tcohen will take care of dinner
00:30 have a nice day fellows, i miss you!
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00:56 dcook Do we have any widespread conventions for describing MARC field/subfield pairs?
00:57 I think we do 999$c in most cases..
00:57 Certainly use that convention in CSV export profiles..
01:00 To try and futureproof changes away from MARC...
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01:35 tcohen \o/
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03:19 dcook Note to self: stick to small bug fixes rather than new features :p
03:24 wth...
03:24 misc/devel/update_dbix_class_files.pl is sure interesting...
03:26 In other news, I might get to see snow this weekend!
03:26 :D
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03:28 wizzyrea I thought that said "see a show" and I was like, but you see shows all the time...
03:28 dcook Nah, I never see shows!
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03:28 dcook And it's been nearly 2 years since I saw snow
03:30 wizzyrea bs, you saw mogwai
03:32 dcook That was in March!
03:35 wizzyrea it's more recently than I've been to a show!
03:35 dcook What was the last show you went to? :)
03:36 I may have also been to a few shows since Mogwai...
03:36 * dcook whistles innocently
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03:37 dcook Totally closed that window by accident...
03:39 wizzyrea Probably the NZSO last year?
03:39 oh, doctor who spectacular last... november?
03:39 (also the nzso, but different from the one I originally thought)
03:39 dcook How often does trea go to shows?
03:39 wizzyrea not often
03:40 dcook Are you telling me that when I have kids I won't be able to go to loud shows anymore?
03:40 wizzyrea (mind you it's not because we don't love music, it's just that we're kinda homebodies)
03:40 dcook Yeah, I think we're kind of homebodies too
03:40 eythian dcook: you're going to one in October.
03:40 wizzyrea I'm telling you that you might choose, for one reason or another, to not go as often.
03:40 dcook eythian: that too
03:40 wizzyrea you go to heaps of shows :P
03:40 dcook hehe
03:41 I used to go every week/fortnight
03:41 That seemed like heaps of shows
03:45 Don't tell me I just re-did an atomic update, kohastructure.sql, and the DBIX files and forgot to add another new field...
03:46 eythian you just re-did an atomic update, kohastructure.sql, and the DBIX files and forgot to add another new field.
03:46 dcook It's been ages since I've done basic authentication with LSWP::UserAgent..
03:46 eythian oh, you said _don't_
03:46 dcook LWP*
03:46 :p
03:47 Yep... pretty sure I forgot to include the realm... blaaah
03:49 eythian http://imgur.com/gallery/P4Z3T
03:49 dcook hehe
03:53 * Francesca waves
03:57 dcook Hmm... even when I include the realm I'm being locked out..
03:58 I know I've made this work before..
03:59 Ahh I think I know..
03:59 Shouldn't be including the protocol I bets...
04:03 eythian: Any tips for figuring out if URI is downloaded along with URI::Escape?
04:04 eythian they're the same package I think
04:04 dcook I want to say they are too
04:04 eythian http://search.cpan.org/~ether/URI-1.69/ <-- they are
04:04 dcook Sweet, so since URI::Escape is required for Koha, I should be safe using URI.pm?
04:04 eythian well not URI.pm
04:05 It's just in the URI package
04:05 oh
04:05 I see what you mean
04:05 yes
04:05 dcook sweet
04:09 thanks eythian
04:09 Now I just need to fix the schema one more time and I should be able to use OAI-PMH with basic auth...
04:22 Nooo... this was just working...
04:24 ...
04:24 Surely this must be a problem with the repo..
04:27 ...
04:28 It was just working
04:29 Oh I have one idea..
04:29 Yes, definitely a server problem
04:29 :@
04:30 That's so not cool...
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04:51 dcook Blarg..
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05:01 dcook Oh ISO 8601... you're so much fun too
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05:08 AmitG heya dcook
05:08 dcook yo AmitG
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05:55 dcook Oh brother... bad metadata now..
05:56 Oh maybe not..
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06:31 dcook Don't suppose any XSLT experts are around? :p
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11:01 drojf hi #koha
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12:13 cait soo quiet
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12:16 tcohen morning!
12:19 cait morning tcohen
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12:22 tcohen hi cait
12:28 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
12:28 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 28.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on August 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
12:28 drojf so cold!
12:31 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:31 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.3°C (9:30 AM ART on August 12, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
12:31 tcohen brrrr
12:31 drojf: you win, again
12:31 drojf :D
12:31 i think i will have 10 more again the coming days. not sure if win
12:31 10° even
12:32 tcohen people are worried here because of the rain
12:32 it is not common that it rains at this time of the year
12:32 we fear floods in some mountain places
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12:44 drojf we could use some rain. crops are withering, people are asked to water the trees in the streets. we would need several days of rain to fix that
12:46 global warming is just a myth i guess :P
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13:36 putti Hi! How do I add [SIGNED OFF] to the subject line of a bugzilla attachment? In the same way as it is here: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]41435&action=edit. When I run git bz attach -e xxxx HEAD ?
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14:30 octo19 hello, Koha fails to install after I issue 'apt-get install koha-common
14:30 running debian 8.1
14:30 and Koha 3.20
14:32 Any ideas?
14:32 wahanui Any ideas are welcome :)
14:33 octo19 ha, thanks @wahanui
14:37 putti koha-common fails to install?
14:37 if koha, how it fails to install?
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14:46 octo19 root@debian:/# apt-get install koha-common
14:46 Reading package lists... Done
14:46 Building dependency tree
14:46 Reading state information... Done
14:46 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
14:46 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
14:46 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
14:46 or been moved out of Incoming.
14:46 The following information may help to resolve the situation:
14:46 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
14:46 koha-common : Depends: libalgorithm-checkdigits-perl but it is not installable
14:46 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:46 octo19 Depends: libanyevent-http-perl but it is not going to be installed
14:46 Depends: libanyevent-perl but it is not installable
14:46 Depends: libauthen-cas-client-perl but it is not installable
14:46 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:46 octo19 Depends: libbiblio-endnotestyle-perl but it is not installable
14:46 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:46 octo19 Depends: libbusiness-isbn-perl but it is not installable
14:46 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:46 octo19 Depends: libcache-fastmmap-perl but it is not installable
14:46 Depends: libcache-memcached-fast-perl but it is not installable
14:46 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:46 octo19 Depends: libcache-perl but it is not installable
14:46 Depends: libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl but it is not going to be installed
14:46 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:46 octo19 Depends: libcgi-session-perl but it is not installable
14:46 Depends: libcgi-session-serialize-yaml-perl but it is not installable
14:46 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:47 octo19 Depends: libclass-factory-util-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libcrypt-eksblowfish-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libcrypt-gcrypt-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libdata-ical-perl but it is not installable
14:47 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:47 octo19 Depends: libdatetime-event-ical-perl but it is not installable
14:47 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:47 octo19 Depends: libdatetime-format-ical-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libdatetime-format-mysql-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libdatetime-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libdatetime-set-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libdatetime-timezone-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libdbd-mock-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libdbd-sqlite2-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libemail-date-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libfile-slurp-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libfont-ttf-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libgd-barcode-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl but it is not installable or
14:47 libgd-gd2-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libgraphics-magick-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libhtml-scrubber-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libhttp-oai-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: liblingua-stem-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: liblingua-stem-snowball-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: liblocale-currency-format-perl but it is not installable
14:47 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:47 octo19 Depends: liblocale-maketext-lexicon-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: liblocale-po-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libmarc-charset-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libmarc-crosswalk-dublincore-perl but it is not installable
14:47 Depends: libmemoize-memcached-perl but it is not installable
14:47 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:48 octo19 Depends: libmime-lite-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libmodern-perl-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libnet-ldap-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libnumber-format-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libopenoffice-oodoc-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libpdf-api2-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libpdf-api2-simple-perl but it is not installable
14:48 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:48 octo19 Depends: libpdf-fromhtml-perl but it is not going to be installed
14:48 Depends: libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libpdf-table-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libschedule-at-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libsms-send-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libstring-random-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtemplate-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtemplate-plugin-json-escape-perl but it is not going to be installed
14:48 Depends: libtest-deep-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtest-mockmodule-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtest-mockobject-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtest-strict-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtest-warn-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtest-www-mechanize-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtest-yaml-valid-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtext-bidi-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtext-csv-encoded-perl but it is not installable
14:48 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:48 octo19 Depends: libtext-csv-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtext-csv-xs-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtext-pdf-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libtext-unaccent-perl but it is not installable
14:48 Depends: libuniversal-require-perl but it is not installable
14:49 Depends: libxml-dumper-perl but it is not installable
14:49 Depends: libxml-libxslt-perl but it is not installable
14:49 Depends: libxml-rss-perl but it is not installable
14:49 Depends: libxml-sax-writer-perl but it is not installable
14:49 Depends: libyaml-perl but it is not installable
14:49 Depends: apache2-mpm-itk but it is not going to be installed
14:49 wahanui i already had it that way, octo19.
14:49 octo19 Depends: idzebra-2.0 but it is not installable
14:49 Depends: perl-doc but it is not installable
14:49 Depends: tinymce but it is not installable
14:49 Depends: xmlstarlet but it is not installable
14:49 Depends: yaz but it is not installable
14:49 E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
14:49 oops. putti, the error I get is E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
14:52 putti try, sudo apt-get install -d
14:52 sry, sudo apt-get install -f
14:56 octo19, if it doesn't work, google the error, there was plenty of solutions to the problem. Gotta go now, bye!
14:56 tcohen octo19: next time please use http://paste.koha-community.org instead
14:57 octo19: Jessie support is not ready, there are missing dependencies
14:58 octo19 Thanks tcohen. Should I use koha 3.18 until Jessie is ready?
14:58 tcohen you should use Wheezy until Jessie is ready
14:58 :-D
14:59 Jessie was released by the time 3.20 came out, and there were some caveats we didn't catch in Debian testing before the release
15:02 octo19: ok?
15:03 octo19 I will try that. Thanks!
15:07 how do I remove 3.20 source?
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16:02 xarragon_ In Koha, is there any object serialization framework being used? Like JSON::XSs Thaw/Freeze etc?
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16:03 xarragon_ Or is that YAML?
16:06 pianohacker xarragon_: mostly yaml
16:06 we use it in the system preferences editor and column settings stuff
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16:09 xarragon_ Yeah I grepped a bit.. Seems like Yaml::Syck is a high performance implementation
16:10 I was storing some html widget classes in a SQL table, tried JSON and tried figuring out the most Perlish way of solving it. Seems like YAML is the preferred way, unless you manually bless
16:10 Besides, I acctidentially started using JSON::XS for the deserialization..
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17:34 Kchris I am looking for very simple patch that I could try to sign off on as a way to learn about the development process. Does anyone have a recommendation?
17:48 tcohen Kchris: bug 14517 is a necessary one
17:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14517 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Private lists browsing broken in translated staff interface
17:48 tcohen it is a good example because it acutally depends on another bug
17:48 so, try your workflow with it
17:49 you will soon notice it can only be tested on top of its dependency patches
17:52 Kchris tcohen: okay, I will take a look at 14517.
17:53 tcohen Kchris: and I'm really happy about it :-D
17:53 cait Kchris: making the RM happy is always a good firs step :)
17:54 Kchris: we have a GBSD coming up on september 3rd
17:54 if there is soemthing you want to learn about specifically, please tell me and i will try to hunt someone down to make a tutorial :)
17:54 Kchris :). What's a GBSD?
17:54 cait gbsd?
17:54 wahanui well, gbsd is Global Bug Squashing Day - http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day
17:55 cait hm the lik is old, but basically this
17:55 we are trying to make it a bit more active having some 'events'
17:55 at least that's the idea
17:55 basically it's a day to focus on community work and testing, fixing bugs etc.
17:57 Kchris cait: that sounds really cool. I am slowly getting myself set up. I finally got the kohadevbox to sync files to an external directory, which I think will be helpful.
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18:19 tcohen Kchris: i found using NFS for syncing was way faster than vbox native shares
18:26 wnickc Hi Kchris
18:32 xarragon_ What? I have to eval() the YAML output? isn't that a glaring security issue?
18:33 Kchris Hi wnickc
18:33 xarragon_ Ah, no, just me being stupid and feeding it Dumper output. Nevermind.
18:34 Kchris tcohen: I will have to look into NFS. It's totally new to me.
18:34 tcohen Kchris: is your workstation running Linux/OS X?
18:35 Kchris tcohen: yes, it's ubuntu 14.04 LTS
18:38 tcohen you need to install nfs-kernel-server (on your box) and add , type: "nfs"
18:38 on the SYNC_FOLDER line
18:45 Kchris I will try that. In attempting to translate the templates for bug 14517 (running the 'perl translate install es-ES'), I am getting an error message: "can't locate Koha.pm",etc.
18:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14517 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Private lists browsing broken in translated staff interface
18:48 Kchris It looks like I might need to just copy the Koha.pm to the appropriate directory...I'll give it try.
18:54 wnickc It might be the PERL5LIB environment variable
18:55 Kchris: Try sudo koha-shell instancename
18:55 then run the translate command
18:59 Kchris wnickc:thanks! I'll give that a try.
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19:09 chris_n wizzyrea++ # for the nice label interface improvements
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20:27 Kchris wnickc: sudo koha-shell instancename seems to work. but I then get the error bug 10341. I am not sure how to login as a koha user.
20:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10341 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, CLOSED INVALID, Erro installing new language with Koha
20:28 cait wnickc++ :)
20:28 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
20:28 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 2.3°C (8:20 AM NZST on August 13, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
20:28 cdickinson wow
20:28 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.1°C (10:28 PM CEST on August 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
20:28 cait want to switch?
20:28 but it gets up to over 30 tomorrow...
20:28 cdickinson it's tough
20:29 it's actually clear skies, and for some reason that makes it COLDER here
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20:30 wnickc hi cait
20:31 cait hi - good comment
20:31 :)
20:31 i would totally prefer a way not to duplicate the information
20:32 fixing the performance issues would be great
20:33 wnickc indeed, I have probably talked more about this bug than any other :-)
20:33 Kchris, using koha-shell should give you a command prompt as the koha user
20:33 cait i've had bugs like this
20:33 wnickc did you replace instancename with the name of your instance
20:34 cait: I would guess everyone has
20:34 cait wnickc: it ended well
20:35 Kchris wnickc: yes. the instancename is set in the config.cfg file. Is there a command to check the instance name?
20:36 wnickc: I meant that as a question: the instancename is set in the config.cfg, isn't it?
20:36 wnickc Kchris: so it would be sudo koha-shell kohadev
20:36 yes, set in the config.cfg, kohadev if you didn't edit
20:37 Kchris right. that's what I did. when I login, using vagrant, I don't specify a koha user. It's simply "vagrant ssh"
20:41 wnickc Kcrhis: yeah, koha-shell puts you in as the koha user, that should give you permission
20:41 transferring sites right now, sorry, have to run
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20:55 rangi you know
20:55 i would have thought this is a conversation i wouldnt have to be having
20:55 @later tell tcohen I cant get it to apply
20:55 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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21:41 tcohen hi
21:42 wizzyrea: np, i was kidding regarding the support list
21:43 rangi: i think the dependent bug prevents it to apply
21:44 rangi ahh most likely, ill try again
21:53 Francesca hello
21:53 * cait waves
21:54 * Francesca waves at cait
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23:21 Francesca @wunder wlg
23:21 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on August 13, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
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23:32 rangi tcohen: signed off
23:32 wahanui i heard signed off was the queue the QA team should watch
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23:33 tcohen rangi: awesome
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