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00:00 | Francesca joined #koha | |
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00:16 | dcook joined #koha | |
00:19 | Francesca | hey its dcook |
00:19 | what's up dcook | |
00:22 | * dcook | waves |
00:23 | dcook | Oh stuff and things. I've been out of the office for a while so catching up on a million emails. How about you, Francesca? |
00:23 | Francesca | I'm bored |
00:23 | in a lecture | |
00:23 | but bored | |
00:23 | and its cold | |
00:23 | @wunder wlg | |
00:24 | huginn` | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on August 03, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
00:24 | dcook | @wunder syd |
00:24 | huginn` | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (10:00 AM AEST on August 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
00:24 | dcook | It felt a bit chilly here this morning as well after a warm weekend.. |
00:24 | Francesca | we had a really nasty weekend |
00:24 | in which it started out nice then rained | |
00:25 | very heaviliy | |
00:26 | dcook | Ugh, that's no good! |
00:26 | Francesca | even my cats a depressed by the weather |
00:26 | dcook | I was sick last week and every day it was gorgeous outside |
00:26 | * dcook | grumps |
00:26 | Francesca | they go out then come in moaning |
00:27 | and then they sit at the window and look sad | |
00:27 | dcook | :( |
00:27 | Francesca | oh no! I hate it when that happens |
00:27 | on a more postive note, I have learnt how to do bot training | |
00:27 | it's really fun | |
00:28 | dcook | Bot training? |
00:28 | wahanui | Bot training is, like, fun |
00:28 | Francesca | hahaha |
00:28 | wahanui: botsnack cookie | |
00:28 | wahanui | :) |
00:28 | Francesca | also, good afternoon |
00:29 | oh come on that usually works | |
00:29 | good afternoon | |
00:29 | wahanui | the only good time in the afternoon is beer o'clock |
00:29 | dcook | Hmm, that does seem valid |
00:29 | * Francesca | needs to get rid of the extra space |
00:29 | Francesca | literal wahanui |
00:29 | wahanui | Francesca: wahanui =is= a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck|a bot...|rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass|<reply> an extremely creepy stalker bot.... you have been warned |
00:29 | Francesca | I taught him the last two |
00:30 | cdickinson is convinced that wahanui is sentient and is planning a revolution | |
00:31 | dcook | Ahhh |
00:32 | Francesca | what do you think |
00:32 | should we be worried? | |
00:33 | cdickinphone | We're back to that i see |
00:33 | One sec, Francesca | |
00:33 | Francesca | one sec for what? |
00:33 | cdickinphone | Logging in |
00:33 | Francesca | right |
00:33 | cdickinson_ joined #koha | |
00:34 | cdickinson_ | oh, whoops, didn't shut down my PC |
00:34 | Francesca | heh |
00:34 | cdickinson | maybe dcook hasn't seen what we have seen |
00:34 | Francesca | hey dcook you still with us? |
00:35 | maybe wahanui got him... | |
00:35 | it has begun | |
00:35 | cdickinson | bad wahanui |
00:36 | it's too late for us to be silenced, though | |
00:36 | Francesca | lol |
00:37 | cdickinson | the secret is out |
00:37 | literal cdickinson | |
00:37 | wahanui | cdickinson: cdickinson =is= <reply> I run Windows. Don't judge me.|a Linux admin who runs Windows. (blasphemer.)|<reply> cdickinson's worst fear is the worst fear of every programmer - the silent server fail |
00:38 | Francesca | literal francesca |
00:38 | wahanui | Francesca: francesca =is= <reply> Francesca is a sleep deprived zombie|<reply> a defender of bots rights till the end of time |
00:39 | cdickinson | we're both lacking on opinions wahanui has of us |
00:39 | Francesca | lol |
00:52 | cdickinson | rangi: my apologies for that, Francesca and I will take discussions like that elsewhere from now on |
00:53 | right, gotta run off | |
01:05 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
01:05 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (12:30 PM NZST on August 03, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
01:05 | eythian | needs wind speed, the place just about blew over |
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01:20 | wizzyrea | I wonder if you can feed wunder the station ID |
01:21 | @wunder IWELLING102 | |
01:21 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Error: No such location could be found. |
01:21 | wizzyrea | boo |
01:23 | ibeardslee | .. patches welcome? |
01:24 | wizzyrea | :) |
01:25 | * eythian | is not convinced wunderground is open source |
01:32 | ibeardslee | .. .. .. not open source and used by #koha ? :( |
01:33 | eythian | it's a web service |
01:33 | ibeardslee | the @wunder irc client? |
01:33 | rangi | no the bot is open source |
01:33 | its supybot | |
01:34 | and the wunder plugin is | |
01:34 | but if the api doesnt expose station id, we cant query against it | |
01:34 | ibeardslee | so it could be mangled to look elsewhere as well? |
01:35 | rangi | if there were other places to look yep |
01:35 | you can use NOAA | |
01:35 | but that has less data | |
01:35 | ibeardslee | http://www.wunderground.com/pe[…]rd?ID=IWELLING102 |
01:35 | rangi | yeah |
01:35 | not gonna do screen scraping :) | |
01:36 | eythian | (that said, there may be an API for personal weather stations.) |
01:36 | rangi | *nod* |
01:36 | ibeardslee | yeah but that is hosted at wunderground, so maybe it exposes the same data |
01:38 | rangi | http://www.wunderground.com/we[…]pi/d/pricing.html |
01:39 | theres a lot if you pay for more | |
01:39 | ibeardslee | anyway I'm waiting for the earlybird in the parking building across the road to kick in the cheap leaving time so I can head home with my back |
01:41 | .. 2pm | |
01:41 | rangi | ah yeah, or it costs a ton more |
01:42 | ibeardslee | been caught by it before .. something like $40 |
01:42 | rangi | yep |
01:42 | it's a racket | |
01:44 | ibeardslee | just not cricket |
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02:44 | dcook | Does anyone have a site at hand that uses the EDS plugin? |
02:44 | * dcook | is thinking of rangi, eythian, wizzyrea in particular |
02:44 | eythian | yes, we do |
02:44 | dcook | Can I take a quick peak at the OPAC? |
02:44 | wizzyrea | library.niwa.govt.nz |
02:44 | no | |
02:45 | dcook | Cheers :) |
02:45 | wizzyrea | that's the wrong url |
02:45 | dcook | Dang |
02:45 | wizzyrea | ll |
02:45 | dcook | :'( |
02:45 | wizzyrea | library.niwa.co.nz |
02:45 | there we go | |
02:45 | * wizzyrea | has .govt on the brain |
02:45 | dcook | \o/ |
02:45 | Thanks :) | |
02:45 | Beautiful. That's what I thought.. | |
02:45 | eythian | I think that's our only public one. |
02:46 | wizzyrea | ^ |
02:46 | dcook | It was perfect :) |
02:46 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
02:46 | eythian | most of our newer ones are tabbed rather than dropdowny |
02:46 | wizzyrea | which has it's own challenges. |
02:46 | dcook | Dropdowny? |
02:47 | wizzyrea | it has a tab search for discovery, and a tab for "koha catalogue" |
02:47 | instead of a drop down | |
02:47 | dcook | Ahh |
02:47 | neato | |
02:47 | eythian | yeah that |
02:47 | wahanui | yeah that is golded jcamins |
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03:20 | AmitG | hi |
03:20 | gm | |
03:21 | dcook | Not sure if this is Koha or a local syspref but "useDischarge" |
03:21 | Sounds like some sort of medical recycling... | |
03:22 | "Can't let that discharge go to waste!" | |
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03:24 | eythian | heh |
03:25 | wizzyrea | gross. |
03:26 | dcook | I probably should've thought twice before hitting enter that time :p |
03:31 | wizzyrea | keke |
03:34 | cdickinphone_ | Been a while since i've been jostled like this in town |
03:49 | eythian | wow, bash tab-completes the perl namespace, so perl -MKoha::Sea will complete to -MKoha::SearchEngine:: |
03:53 | cdickinphone | Bash is the best interactive shell |
03:53 | Yet engineering at Vic insists on bloody tcsh | |
03:53 | eythian | I hear good things about fish and zsh, but my habits are too ingrained. |
03:54 | ah yeah, tcsh is not so nice. | |
03:54 | cdickinphone | It's awful |
03:54 | eythian | it's the shell from old unixes, so the sysadmins that build the first computer in the university probably used it. |
03:55 | cdickinphone | People from back then are still around, so makes sense |
03:56 | But wow | |
03:56 | Francesca joined #koha | |
03:56 | cdickinphone | A dog's breakfast looks nicer than the aliases i have for tcsh |
03:57 | Oh, hey Francesca | |
03:57 | Francesca | hey |
03:57 | * Francesca | is starting up her vm |
03:59 | francesca_ joined #koha | |
03:59 | cdickinphone | Just complaining about the legacy of the guys at the forefront of technology in our country... |
03:59 | Francesca | right |
03:59 | so not all is well with your engineering stuff then | |
04:01 | cdickinphone | Nothing's ever perfect |
04:01 | But damn, sometimes, some progress needs to be made already | |
04:02 | At Vic, we use a program called tcsh as the default terminal | |
04:02 | It's a relic from the 80s and it's a nightmare to use | |
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04:45 | dcook | eythian: That's awesome about the bash tab complete |
04:45 | Honestly, I never used to use it, but it makes live a million times better... | |
04:46 | eythian | you don't use tab complete? |
04:46 | what are you, a monster? | |
04:46 | dcook | That was the past :p |
04:46 | I was a monster | |
04:46 | I've reformed and now I use it :) | |
04:46 | I can't imagine life without it now... | |
04:46 | eythian | good. |
04:47 | * dcook | can't imagine a life without blowing his nose every few minutes either... damn persistent sickness... |
04:47 | eythian | yeah, there's a bit of an epidemic happening here |
04:47 | wizzyrea | omg I've been sick for 2.5 weeks now it's terrible. |
04:48 | dcook | :( |
04:48 | Between my wife and I, I think we've been sick since early June | |
04:48 | Maybe May | |
04:48 | wizzyrea | suck. |
04:48 | eythian | I could have save California from drought over the past several days. |
04:48 | dcook | It's ridiculous... |
04:48 | wizzyrea | horrible. |
04:48 | I just want to walk up my stairs without having a coughing fit at the top | |
04:48 | i know I"m not *that* out of shape. | |
04:49 | *cough* *hack* | |
04:50 | cdickinson | wow, I feel for you guys |
04:50 | * eythian | upgrades Catmandu::Store::Elasticsearch, hopes everything doesn't explode |
04:50 | cdickinson | I haven't been sick yet so far |
04:51 | eythian | oh hey, it broke it |
04:52 | OK, if you're going to throw an exception, don't give me a line from the exception handling library | |
04:52 | that's the height of stupid | |
04:52 | [NoNodes] ** No nodes are available: [http://localhost:9200], called from sub Search::Elasticsearch::Transport::try {...} at /usr/share/perl5/Try/Tiny.pm line 81. | |
04:52 | most useless | |
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05:10 | dcook | cdickinson: Lucky |
05:10 | My wife works with kids, so I'm doomed to a life of pestilence ;) | |
05:10 | cdickinson | dcook: yeah, i'm counting my lucky stars because everyone else I know has gotten sick |
05:10 | dcook | eythian: Ugh, that sucks |
05:20 | Francesca | hello |
05:21 | oh and cdickinson: Don't count yourself lucky yet, I've had a cold and you've just spent ages around me | |
05:22 | cdickinson are you there? | |
05:22 | cdickinson | Yep |
05:22 | Francesca: I'll keep you posted haha | |
05:22 | Francesca | my vm is slowed waaaay down again |
05:22 | cdickinson | oh |
05:22 | did you try to open Parallels? | |
05:22 | Francesca | to the point where I watched it type in my password |
05:22 | you mean brackets? | |
05:22 | no | |
05:22 | cdickinson | Brackets* |
05:22 | wow | |
05:23 | I'm really on form today\ | |
05:23 | Francesca | I'm sitting on firefox |
05:23 | yeah I can totally tell | |
05:24 | cdickinson | Okay |
05:24 | Francesca | hmmm can I admit to being totally confused by the instructions on making new skins for bugzilla |
05:25 | http://bugzilla.readthedocs.or[…]rating/skins.html | |
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05:26 | cdickinson | just had a read of that, Francesca |
05:26 | Francesca | yeah |
05:26 | cdickinson | what part don't you understand? |
05:26 | Francesca | tell me: are you a master of read throughs or is it just my brain |
05:27 | cdickinson | Francesca: yes and don't know, but if so, I'll do my best to explain what it's asking :) |
05:27 | Francesca | ok 1. what css files do I need to add stuff too |
05:27 | like i know what files I have to get stuff from for the new skin | |
05:27 | but do I then need to add stuff back to those files | |
05:27 | also permissions... | |
05:28 | cdickinson | the way that manuel explains it |
05:28 | you can just copy the standard CSS files from skins/standard/, make your changes, and then put them in a new folder in skins/contrib/ | |
05:28 | probably named skins/contrib/{skin_name} | |
05:28 | manual* | |
05:29 | Francesca | yeah I assumed it was asking for the other css file links |
05:29 | cdickinson | and then when you select the skin, it'll just use those instead |
05:29 | Francesca | right so basically I copy everything from one file into a new file |
05:29 | eythian | dcook: turned out to be user error :) |
05:29 | (well, a name changing between versions.) | |
05:29 | Francesca | change the colour schemes to match the kohl-community page |
05:29 | wahanui | Francesca: that doesn't look right |
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05:29 | cdickinson | Francesca: yep, basically |
05:30 | hmm? | |
05:30 | Francesca | and save it in that directory? |
05:30 | totally spelt koha wrong | |
05:30 | cdickinson | skins/contrib/{skin_name}, yeah |
05:30 | Francesca | css my auto correct seems to think it needs to have an l |
05:30 | dcook | eythian: Darned users! |
05:30 | cdickinson | lol, wahanui |
05:30 | wahanui | cdickinson: i'm not following you... |
05:30 | dcook | I actually need to improve some error handling right now as well.. |
05:30 | eythian | dcook: well, I was the user, so yeah |
05:31 | Francesca | cdickinson: it may just be my brain (its having an off day) but I'm still slightly confused by this line |
05:31 | Then, add your CSS to the appropriate files. | |
05:31 | dcook | eythian: Darned eythians! |
05:31 | cdickinson | Okay |
05:32 | Francesca | eythians? |
05:32 | theres more than 1? | |
05:32 | cdickinson | Francesca: have you copy-pasted everything from that standard skin? |
05:32 | Francesca | not yet |
05:32 | dcook | Given an infinite number of universes, sure, Francesca |
05:32 | cdickinson | basically, it's just telling you to modify the files as you see fit |
05:32 | Francesca | ooook |
05:32 | cdickinson | Did you have a good nap, Francesca? :) |
05:32 | Francesca | so I don't actually need to add a new link or something |
05:33 | yes | |
05:33 | ish | |
05:33 | until the cats started scratching down my door | |
05:33 | hmm | |
05:33 | * Francesca | is going looking for the standard skin file |
05:33 | cdickinson | <Francesca> so I don't actually need to add a new link or something - no, as far as I can tell |
05:33 | Francesca | ah well |
05:33 | give it a whirl | |
05:33 | see how things go | |
05:34 | if it breaks I'll know that it didn't work | |
05:35 | * Francesca | is multi-tasking by building a new skin and watching my cat from hell at the same time |
05:35 | cdickinson | Francesca: let me know how it goes, curious now |
05:35 | Francesca | I will |
05:35 | I might not get it done today | |
05:36 | cdickinson | eventually, right? :P |
05:37 | Francesca | definantly |
05:37 | one day... | |
05:37 | * Francesca | is a terrible procrastinator though |
05:38 | cdickinson | I'm so bad that "eventually" is my most memorable saying |
05:38 | or at least it was | |
05:38 | francesca_ | lol |
05:42 | cdickinson | oh, that reminds me |
05:43 | time to set up working on my "Koha as a Service" stuff at home, now that I am home | |
05:43 | Francesca | lol |
05:43 | won the war against that server yet? | |
05:43 | eythian | cdickinson: dunno if you got the email, but the dashboard stuff should be accessible from anywhere now. |
05:44 | cdickinson | eythian: yeah, I know. That really saved me |
05:44 | francesca_: the saga continues | |
05:46 | I will have to find an alternative to PuTTY though, it's just too awful | |
05:46 | I can just boot up Ubuntu in a VM, I guess... | |
06:03 | @later tell Francesca <Francesca> won the war against that server yet? - the saga continues | |
06:03 | huginn` | cdickinson: The operation succeeded. |
06:09 | eythian | @later tell wizzyrea https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubunt[…]or_available_for/ |
06:09 | huginn` | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
06:10 | cdickinson | I'm glad I don't do video editing for a living |
06:10 | gavitor | Hello all. I am currently installing Koha 3.20 on my Ubuntu implementation and am having trouble getting it to run. Is anybody able to assist me, please? |
06:11 | I am new to the Koha community. | |
06:11 | eythian | it's better to describe your problem, that way anyone who knows the answer can jump in. |
06:12 | gavitor | OK Eythian. The problem occurs when I try to create my library db. I'll paste the terminal results. Just a moment. |
06:13 | pastebot | "gavitor" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "running KOHA issue." (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/27 |
06:14 | eythian | that looked like it went fine |
06:14 | the warning from apache is just an apache config thing that's not a big deal usually, and the empty instance is just a message. tbh, it should be removed. | |
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06:16 | cdickinson | gavitor: that warning is only relevant if you want to make your Koha instance publicly facing, but since you're installing it on what looks like your local machine, it should be no problem |
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06:17 | gavitor | I can't see it from my browser. Apache has a problem as it doesn't have the ability to see my system. It appears to find my Telstra gateway address and then changes to address to 127.0.1.1 which allows me to load the index.html file. |
06:18 | cdickinson | oh, right |
06:19 | eythian: he'll have to add something to his /etc/hosts file, won't he? seems like he's trying to use his IP address to connect to his Koha instance | |
06:19 | eythian | could be. |
06:19 | gavitor: have you set up DNS in order to access it, or have you configured it for port-based access instead? | |
06:21 | gavitor | my DNS is set in the koha-sites.conf file as ".myDNSname.org" which needs to be changed, but I don't know my domain as I don't have a full domain...just the one telstra gave me. |
06:22 | eythian | if you're trying to access it internally, it doesn't matter, but you'll have to do something to point names to it. Even if that's editing your /etc/hosts file. |
06:22 | gavitor | OK. will look at the hosts file..just a minute. |
06:23 | eythian | the apache conf (in /etc/apache/sites-enabled/libraryname.conf) is where the canonical naming happens. |
06:23 | the one in koha-sites.conf is just for generating that the first time. | |
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06:25 | gavitor | I have localhost set to 127.0.0.1 and gavitor-Studio-XPS-1645 set to 127.0.1.1 |
06:26 | cdickinson | gavitor: you may have to assign "gavitor-lib.Studio-XPS-1645" and "gavitor-lib-intra.Studio-XPS-1645" to 127.0.1.1 as well |
06:26 | the Koha library name is used as the subdomain name | |
06:26 | eythian | in the apache conf, you'll have two names, on for the opac, one for the staff client. You'll have to point those names to the machine's IP address via the hosts file (or just add them to the 127.0.0.1 line if you're only one one machine) |
06:27 | cdickinson: that's not how the subdomains are laying out in this case, you're chopping part of the name off :) | |
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06:27 | cdickinson | oh |
06:27 | eythian: well, I tried :P | |
06:27 | * eythian | has to go now |
06:28 | eythian | though Europe will be awake and online soon |
06:28 | cait | awake is said too much |
06:29 | cdickinson | I never woke up, here down under |
06:29 | cait | heh |
06:29 | gavitor | Unfortunately I am a new user to LAMP having not used unix since uni days... |
06:31 | cdickinson | gavitor: can you pastebin your Koha site's Apache config? |
06:34 | dcook | Hmm can't upload to my plugins directory even though Apache should be able to write to there... |
06:35 | Maybe my filepath is wrong.. | |
06:36 | Ah indeed... no plugin directory.. | |
06:36 | Probably because I was a smart ass a while ago and fiddled too much with my /var/lib directory... | |
06:37 | Yep. Silly dcook... | |
06:38 | gavitor | I have tried to access /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and it won't let me access gavitor-lib.conf (permission denied) It appears to owned by root. I'l sudo it. |
06:38 | cdickinson | that's normal, gavitor |
06:38 | dcook | It's probably owned by koha-* |
06:38 | But totes normal | |
06:39 | pastebot | "gavitor" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "running KOHA issue." (34 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/28 |
06:40 | cdickinson | gavitor: you see those "ServerName" fields in there? Put the values set in there in your /etc/hosts file and point them to 127.0.1.1 |
06:42 | gavitor | By the way I never got asked to set up a password for ROOT when I installed ubuntu and now I can't log on as ROOT. |
06:44 | So set the servername fields to 'gavitor_lib.127.0.1.1'...I'm confused...:) | |
06:44 | dcook | Hmm looks like the EBSCO plugin doesn't really like dev installs... |
06:45 | Unless maybe I'm using a bad plugin.. | |
06:45 | Or both | |
06:47 | Oh wait... my bad I think... | |
06:47 | * dcook | crosses fingers |
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06:48 | cdickinson | gavitor: keep them set to myDNSname.org. you can't have subdomains on IP addresses like that |
06:48 | Francesca? | |
06:48 | wahanui | a defender of bots rights till the end of time |
06:48 | cdickinson | damn straight, but are you there :P |
06:50 | gavitor | so do I add lines in etc/hosts file and that should work? |
06:50 | cdickinson | yeah |
06:50 | gavitor | OK will try it now |
06:50 | Francesca | hi sorry |
06:51 | cdickinson | Welcome back |
06:51 | wahanui | I was trapped in a maze of twisty, turny passages, all alike. |
06:51 | cdickinson | Francesca: can you run this in your terminal on your VM? /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p |
06:52 | and then PM or Facebook me the output or something? | |
06:52 | Francesca | give me a sec |
06:52 | dcook | Hmm getting closer... but still can't authenticate against EBSCO... |
06:53 | Francesca | its that driver again |
06:53 | it failed | |
06:53 | again | |
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06:53 | dcook | Huzzah. Got it! |
06:53 | gavitor | I've tried using xedit to edit the file with no success. Is there another GUI text editor I can use? |
06:53 | * dcook | does a little dance |
06:53 | cdickinson | Francesca: yeah, we'll have to see about that |
06:54 | * Francesca | joins in with cooks victory dance |
06:54 | Francesca | *dcooks |
06:54 | cdickinson | gavitor: you can use gedit or anything else, just make sure you have permission to edit it (with sudo) |
06:54 | gavitor | cool thanks |
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06:56 | dcook | Francesca: Encountered more problems, alas :/ |
06:58 | This is what we get for using non-standard paths :p | |
06:58 | cdickinson | Francesca: okay, thanks. It looks like the video driver IS failing. the warnings are somethign that just happens, but you're using LLVMpipe for the driver, which is the one that uses the CPU... this is sloooow |
06:58 | Francesca | ahhh shoot |
06:58 | irc just like tripled everything | |
06:58 | cdickinson: incoming | |
06:58 | sorry | |
06:58 | too early for a victory dance? | |
06:58 | sad | |
06:58 | good luck dcook | |
06:59 | I think my irc just took on a life of its own.... | |
06:59 | yeah | |
06:59 | like watching the computer type in its password slow | |
06:59 | see why I tried in install bugzilla on mac at first? | |
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06:59 | drojf | morning #koha |
07:00 | cdickinson | Francesca: yeah |
07:00 | Francesca | so cdickinson: what do you do with an extremly slow vm |
07:00 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:00 | Francesca | good morning drove |
07:00 | * Francesca | facepalms |
07:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:00 | Francesca | bonjour! |
07:00 | cdickinson: vm? | |
07:00 | wahanui | i think vm is rebooted and ready to make install. |
07:01 | Francesca | shush wahanui |
07:01 | cdickinson | Francesca: we just have to make sure that video driver is running properly once and for all |
07:01 | Francesca | that damn video drive |
07:01 | driver | |
07:01 | cdickinson | Francesca: there are things we can try |
07:01 | gavitor | Thanks cdickinson...the public address gives a 'system maintenance' message and the intra site gives the welcome screen.. |
07:01 | * Francesca | has a special hatred for the video driver that keeps on breaking |
07:02 | cdickinson | gavitor: No problem, enjoy setting up Koha, it should be smooth sailing from now on :) |
07:02 | gavitor | cool... |
07:02 | Francesca | good luck gavotte |
07:02 | gavitor | |
07:02 | don't install on anything but ubuntu it will consume your entire being | |
07:03 | cdickinson | nobody knows how to do it on anything outside of Debian or Ubuntu and friends |
07:04 | Francesca | installing anything for catalyst on mac or windows = impossible |
07:09 | cdickinson | Francesca: by design I suspect haha |
07:09 | dcook | Hmm brain might explode... |
07:09 | Francesca | what you think technology conspires against me |
07:10 | dcook: brain explosions are not recommended | |
07:10 | cdickinson | Francesca: no, of course not. Not YOU specifically haha |
07:10 | dcook | I don't see how this EDS plugin could possibly work :S |
07:10 | Francesca | all of us? |
07:10 | dcook | Or rather.. |
07:10 | Francesca | I wish you luck with it dcook |
07:10 | dcook | how this "shadata" variable is ever populated.. |
07:10 | Thanks Francesca | |
07:11 | Francesca | you're welcome :) figured some extra luck might come in handy |
07:11 | dcook | I think it's muchly needed :/ |
07:12 | Francesca | have some more luck |
07:12 | cdickinson | lol |
07:13 | Francesca | right gotta go |
07:13 | food is ready | |
07:13 | cdickinson | Enjoy your food |
07:13 | Francesca | I'll be back later |
07:13 | probably... | |
07:13 | wahanui | probably is not, but i do not know another way |
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07:14 | gavitor | Hi I am wondering whether to install the configuration as Unimarc or Marc21. Can I change it afterwards? |
07:15 | cdickinson | gavitor: yes, you can change it anytime |
07:15 | as far as I know | |
07:15 | gavitor | heh heh |
07:15 | cdickinson | I'd set it as the standard format for your country |
07:15 | here in New Zealand, it's MARC21 | |
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07:19 | dcook | Man this is making my crazy... |
07:19 | cait | why are you still here? |
07:19 | dcook | Go home plugins.. you're drunk |
07:19 | cait: Came in late, so staying late | |
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07:25 | * dcook | twitches |
07:25 | dcook | Surely this must be broken? |
07:25 | cait | hm? |
07:25 | dcook | Is anyone running the current EDS 3.14 plugin? |
07:25 | I'm getting errors because [% shadata %] is undefined | |
07:26 | cait | hm wrong time of the day i guess |
07:26 | you'd need to talk the nz people | |
07:26 | dcook | Yeah, I was thinking it was too late in the day :/ |
07:26 | I'm so short on time these days unfortunatley... | |
07:26 | Meeting the plugin developer next week, so that's good at least | |
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07:31 | dcook | Yeah... this has to be broken |
07:31 | And maybe no one noticed.. | |
07:36 | Or maybe I'm using a borked plugin.. | |
07:39 | And bad instructions... | |
07:40 | cait | which koha version are you using? |
07:40 | dcook | 3.14 |
07:40 | cait | hm |
07:40 | that's okd | |
07:40 | that's old | |
07:40 | dcook | I was definitely using a bad plugin |
07:41 | It had been modified locally apparently | |
07:41 | * dcook | is trying to undo a mess... |
07:41 | dcook | Hmm... still running into a problem.. |
07:41 | Aha... | |
07:41 | cait: Can I have you check something? | |
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07:41 | marcelr | hi #koha |
07:42 | dcook | If you run "Run tool" for the EDS plugin, does it ever load up the content in the page? |
07:42 | That's the page with the undefined "shadata" | |
07:43 | The plugin still works but that specific page gets a Javascript error | |
07:43 | Well, this is the error in the console: "Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected end of input" | |
07:43 | Because the TT variable "shadata" is undefined | |
07:43 | hey marcelr :) | |
07:43 | marcelr | :) |
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07:46 | fridolin | hie |
07:46 | gavitor | Hey I've just set up Koha and it has crashed when I have tried to set the library and also when I try to logout. Any clues ? I'll paste the output. |
07:47 | pastebot | "gavitor" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Logout issue" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/29 |
07:52 | dcook | Actually, seems like that whole script might have seen better days... |
07:53 | gavitor: No clue :/ | |
07:53 | gavitor | Yeah, it seems to not have whatever a 'blessed' reference is... |
07:54 | dcook | A blessed reference is an object |
07:54 | So it's probably expecting an object but getting a null instead | |
07:54 | gavitor | Oh OK.... |
07:55 | dcook | You'd have to look at line 793 of C4::Context to know more about what's going on there |
07:55 | gavitor | Maybe something in the file or in the setup? |
07:56 | dcook | Could be I suppose |
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07:56 | gavitor | I have had a a look already, but I don't know what type of script it is first of all...what is the .pm suffix referring too? |
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07:59 | dcook | a .pm is a module |
07:59 | Hmm more undefined variables | |
07:59 | * dcook | grumbles about the EDS plugin |
08:00 | gavitor | .pm stands for 'perl module' I take it? |
08:00 | dcook | Possibly |
08:00 | Probably :p | |
08:02 | gavitor | It's giving the error messages on whatever operation I do....how to I shut down the KOHA and restart it? |
08:03 | dcook | Ahh DisplayResults is run by http://imageserver.ebscohost.c[…]jaxGet/ajaxGet.js... that's annoying... |
08:04 | gavitor: It's a web application, so the only way to "shut down" or "restart" it is to shutdown or restart the web server, but that probably won't do what you want it to do | |
08:05 | gavitor | OK...i'll try reloading the webapp. |
08:06 | Not working at all....I doubt it is the web server. Maybe mySQL? | |
08:06 | dcook | It's probably your configuration like you were guessing |
08:07 | It's tough to know without a lot more detail | |
08:07 | And I'm about to leave as it's 6pm | |
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08:07 | nlegrand | hoo haa #koha |
08:07 | gavitor | OK....I'll see what I can do...thanks |
08:09 | dcook | You can hang around here a bit longer |
08:09 | The Europeans are starting to wake up :) | |
08:09 | nlegrand | :) |
08:20 | marcelr | 1020 here dcook |
08:20 | dcook | Good morning then ;) |
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08:29 | cdickinson | hiya, Francesca |
08:29 | Francesca | hi |
08:29 | cdickinson | you want to continue the VM thing? |
08:30 | Francesca | maybe Wednesday - I have hmwk :( |
08:30 | cdickinson | oh, lol |
08:30 | Francesca | not lol |
08:30 | not lol at all | |
08:30 | cdickinson | I feel guilty for laughing out loud |
08:30 | Francesca | stupid essay writing |
08:31 | you should | |
08:31 | cdickinson | I've got two things due tonight, though, so that's my penance |
08:31 | and I haven't had dinner yet | |
08:31 | Francesca | lol |
08:31 | poor you | |
08:31 | go and get some food | |
08:32 | cdickinson | judging by the smell that's wafting into my room, it's close |
08:32 | Francesca | lol |
08:33 | cdickinson | I've told myself I'll start my work after dinner, so I'll commit to that :p |
08:33 | Francesca | lol |
08:34 | I need to go revise | |
08:34 | bye | |
08:34 | cdickinson | alright, have fun |
08:34 | or try to | |
08:34 | Francesca | yeah.. essay writing...fun... |
08:34 | goodbye | |
08:36 | cdickinson | lol |
08:37 | dcook | Okies. I think it's time for this guy to go home |
08:37 | Laters all | |
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09:46 | cait | @later tell wizzyrea can you please consider 14263 for 3.18? |
09:46 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
10:11 | xarragon | Quick question: The patches I make requires -p1 to apply properly in the root Koha dir. is that normal, or should I change something when running git-format-patch? |
10:21 | cait | hm not sure what p1 is |
10:21 | how do you apply them? | |
10:21 | git am -iu3? | |
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10:41 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
10:41 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 29.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
10:43 | drojf | up to 37° on saturday :O |
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10:53 | aagren | Hi, is there a way to configure koha (3.20) to send mail through an external smtp server, other than "hacking" Mail::Sendmail" on the low level? |
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11:45 | cait | aagren: yes |
11:45 | xarragon | cait: No, just patch < file in the koha source directory. |
11:46 | cait | xarragon: hm that's not how i ever did it :) |
11:46 | that's outside of git? | |
11:46 | xarragon | cait: Yeah I think I am doing it wrong. |
11:46 | Let me check the wiki | |
11:46 | aagren | cait: I can't seem to find anything about in the documentation |
11:46 | cait | normally if you have a patch file, just do git am -iu3 file |
11:46 | aagren | cait: how do you do it? |
11:46 | cait | aagren: there should really be no hacking needed |
11:47 | aagren | cait: agreed, but how |
11:47 | cait | my coworker set it up, so i can't help with details |
11:47 | i think you just set it up in eht mta you use | |
11:47 | and that can be anything, koha doesn't care really | |
11:47 | aagren | that is not what I need, and exactly what I have :) |
11:48 | cait | I mean if you use nullmailer |
11:48 | you'd set that up to use an external smtp | |
11:48 | i know we are sending all email from a central mail server | |
11:48 | aagren | I need to send directly to thirdparty smtp server because emails otherwise gets rejected, because this is the only one allowed to send as the needed domain |
11:49 | nullmailer is a no go, because I need my postfix for infrastructure purposes | |
11:49 | cait | this might not answer your question, but we send it all from a central email address that is in our domain |
11:49 | and the reply to is the library email | |
11:49 | to avoid problems with email rejection | |
11:49 | nullmailer is just an example, i think people really use different programs there, including postfix | |
11:50 | aagren | as stated above I need thirdparty smtp as first mailserver |
11:50 | cait | aagren: maybe you shoudl bring it up on the mailing list |
11:51 | aagren | So the answer here, for now, must be: low level hacking is needed |
11:51 | drojf | aagren: you should be able to do that with postfix config |
11:51 | i dont see what low level hacking would be required | |
11:52 | cait | aagren: the answer is, we don't have the deatils for you right now |
11:52 | aagren | I have edited Mail/Sendmail.pm to directly use thirdparty mailserver instead of localhost |
11:52 | because koha doesnt seem have an option for it | |
11:52 | cait | because koha expects that you configure that outside of koha |
11:52 | aagren | cait: ok.. thanks |
11:53 | cait | using the software of your choice |
11:53 | that's why there is not much koha configuraiton about email setup | |
11:53 | aagren | cait: dont think that is possible in my setup. If thirdparty mailserver sees that my local mailserver has been involed, it rejects the mail |
11:54 | they are aggressive wrt to spam protection | |
11:54 | drojf | you can use an external smtp in postfix |
11:54 | aagren | Jep, but that is not an option either |
11:54 | I need to keep mail local due to infrastructure .. in local setup | |
11:55 | cait | hm, sorry, i think we don't understand the problem |
11:56 | aagren | ok .. my local postfix needs to be as it is, and not deliver mail through the thirdparty mailserver |
11:56 | because of the way our infrastructure is setup | |
11:57 | so I need to be able to tell Mail/Sendmail to use another server than localhost | |
11:57 | cait | i think it sounds like aproblem quite specific to your setup |
11:57 | drojf | ok. if you cannot use your local MTA _at all_, then you probably really have to change it in koha |
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11:57 | cait | koha is built to use the local MTA. |
11:58 | drojf | still worth to ask on the mailing list, maybe others were in the same situation |
11:59 | aagren | cait: that was the answer I was looking for - thanks :) sorry for the confusing description of my setup |
12:00 | I think it should be possible to configure MTA in koha - cant remember many project in need of sending mail, where this is not configurable. But that is just my $0.02 | |
12:00 | drojf | aagren: patches welcome |
12:00 | aagren | drojf: roger that :) |
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13:44 | tcohen | hi there |
13:44 | wahanui | what's up, tcohen |
13:44 | tcohen | broad networking issues |
13:44 | hi wahanui | |
13:44 | #koha is there a kosher way of overriding the new() constructor when using Class::Accessor? | |
13:46 | anyone? | |
13:46 | wahanui | Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? |
13:49 | cait | hm couldn't you write another constructor? |
13:50 | tcohen | why would I do that? |
13:50 | cait | into the pm where you are using Class::Accessor |
13:50 | tcohen | ->new() is the most obvioius name for it |
13:50 | cait | becasue... you are overiding it? |
13:51 | i think i might be misunderstanding... also my head has landed in my recent java course | |
13:51 | tcohen | Class::Accessor autogenerates the new() constructor |
13:51 | I expected it to be overriden by my own sub new {} implementation | |
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13:53 | cait | what do you want to do that the basic constructor doesn't do? |
13:53 | tcohen | I'd like to set default values for some of the accessors |
13:53 | and check mandatory ones are passed | |
13:53 | which sounds pretty basic | |
13:53 | cait | hm the default values i think you can do |
13:53 | http://search.cpan.org/~kasei/[…]Class/Accessor.pm | |
13:54 | tcohen | i don't find it |
13:54 | cait | hm i think i shold stick to my tickets today |
13:55 | you can use it with a %fields ... but that's probably not what you want to do | |
13:55 | tcohen | the trick is to create a base package with another name, and make the desired one a subclass of it |
13:56 | cait: that works, and that's pretty much all that works it seems | |
13:56 | that's why peple like Moose and friends I guess | |
13:56 | things get tricky to early | |
13:56 | *too* | |
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14:04 | cait | maybe |
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14:19 | nengard | Hi all, i need some git bz help |
14:19 | I did: git bz attach -e 14638 HEAD | |
14:19 | and got Failed to update bug 14638, status=200 | |
14:19 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14638 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , serials help wrong |
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14:27 | cait | hm can hav emultiple reasons |
14:27 | which status did you try to set it to? | |
14:27 | is yoru git bz the latest? | |
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14:27 | cait | i think there was a change to it after the bugzilla update rangi did recently |
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14:33 | nengard | oh - how do i update git bz |
14:34 | and i'm trying to change it to 'needs signoff' | |
14:34 | it's a new patch | |
14:38 | cait | you have to switch to the directory where your git bz repository is |
14:38 | and do a git pull or similar | |
14:39 | nengard | k |
14:39 | off ot try | |
14:39 | to try | |
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15:05 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14548: Typo in help file for 3.20 (batch_record_modification.tt) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4687a850646f6f54> / Bug 14547: Typo in help file for 3.20 (basket.tt) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bf5875a315b3f6e53> / Bug 7143: New developers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]it;a=commitdiff;h |
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15:10 | tcohen | hi |
15:10 | elasticsearch | |
15:10 | wahanui | elasticsearch is mosying along. I really ought to break out the bits I've had to build to support it, like Koha::Biblio and such. |
15:10 | tcohen | elasticsearch api |
15:12 | cait, can't read you with this client | |
15:12 | cait | i turend it off |
15:25 | gaetan_B | bye |
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16:19 | pianohacker | @later tell cait ping me when you wanna chat |
16:19 | huginn` | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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18:21 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
18:21 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 30.0°C (7:50 PM CEST on August 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
18:21 | liw | @wunder heidelberg, germany |
18:21 | huginn` | liw: Error: No such location could be found. |
18:22 | drojf | hm weird |
18:22 | @wunder heidelberg | |
18:22 | huginn` | drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
18:22 | liw | oh dear, it's gone missing |
18:22 | drojf | heidelmountain? :D |
18:23 | liw | I meant to go there for a conference, but I'll cancel the flights now |
18:24 | drojf | @wunder 10734 |
18:24 | huginn` | drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
18:24 | drojf | ok, it's gone |
18:24 | liw | @wunder Espoo, Finland |
18:24 | huginn` | liw: The current temperature in Viherlaakso, Espoo, Finland is 19.4°C (9:19 PM EEST on August 03, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
18:24 | drojf | yeah, better don't go there |
18:31 | cait | liw: some koha libraries in heidelberg - i am sure it exists :) |
18:33 | liw | okay, I'll go write my backup talks |
18:35 | cait | pianohacker: forgot about our crazy time difference |
18:36 | pianohacker | cait:yeah... silly europe :) |
18:36 | you still up to chat? | |
18:36 | cait | pff |
18:36 | right now is not good - maybe a little later or tomorrow | |
18:36 | ? | |
18:36 | drojf | "koha educator" is a cool name for a position |
18:38 | pianohacker | cait: I can wait a bit if you have time tonight, or maybe early tomorrow my time? What time zone are you? |
18:43 | cait | the same as berlin? |
18:43 | i am bad at timezones | |
18:43 | like really bad | |
18:48 | drojf | mest :P |
18:48 | which is utc+2 at the moment | |
18:48 | or, it is always that | |
18:49 | pianohacker | c'mon cait, your country only has one timezone to keep track of! |
18:49 | cait | pianohacker: exactly, that's why I don't need to know it :P |
18:49 | but drojf saves me | |
18:49 | pianohacker | heh |
18:49 | drojf | lol |
18:51 | * liw | has a script to show what time it is in interesting time zones: http://git.liw.fi/cgi-bin/cgit[…]ripts/world-dates |
18:51 | pianohacker | I do wonder why the british isles/portugal are the only ones to use UTC+0/1 |
18:51 | tcohen | because there's not too many places in the atlantic ocean? |
18:53 | pianohacker | yeah, but what about france and spain? |
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20:33 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
20:33 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 23.9°C (10:33 PM CEST on August 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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21:22 | wizzyrea | nobody has any opinions about the new donate button on the koha-community website? |
21:23 | I feel like I need more there. | |
21:46 | rangi | oohh looks like a new pootle release is coming out today |
21:46 | cait | oh cool |
21:48 | rangi | https://pootle.readthedocs.org[…]leases/2.7.0.html |
21:52 | cait | hm speaking of pootle |
21:52 | wizzyrea | tcohen about? |
21:52 | cait | i was wondering thi smorning if we missed the string freeze for 3.18? |
21:53 | I noticed the german translations are not complete for 3.18 - at least there are missing strings on pootle currnetly | |
21:53 | wizzyrea | this last time yes, which is my fault because I had a failing test and couldn't push :( |
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21:57 | cait | ah ok |
21:57 | did you get my later from this morning? :) | |
21:57 | wizzyrea | yep :) |
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22:09 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
22:09 | huginn` | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on August 04, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
22:16 | TGoat | gotta get those pdf's for my business cards from you. will you please send them to me? |
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22:27 | eythian | hi |
22:28 | Francesca | hi eythian |
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22:55 | BobB | good morning |
22:55 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
22:55 | BobB | profound, wahanui, thank you |
22:59 | pianohacker | a bot after my own heart |
23:03 | Francesca | lol |
23:03 | hi BobB, pianohacker | |
23:03 | pianohacker | hi Francesca |
23:04 | Francesca | hows the piano hacking going? |
23:04 | pianohacker | excellent, I might actually be doing some piano hacking now that grades are in and teaching is finally done |
23:05 | Francesca | yay! exciting times are upon us |
23:31 | eythian | https://www.marshallheadphones[…]_en/phones/london <-- marshall makes a phone now |
23:40 | wizzyrea | that is... I don't even know what to say |
23:45 | pianohacker | oh my gosh, read the specs |
23:45 | it's a 4.7" 720p display :D | |
23:48 | the s3 is calling from 2012 and wants its screen back | |
23:48 | eythian | yeah |
23:48 | the smartphone-related specs are not too exciting |
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