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| 00:28 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 00:28 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:28 | eythian | I wonder when it was last that warm here |
| 00:30 | rangi | it has been a while |
| 00:31 | Francesca | nicer than it was earlier for sure |
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| 01:08 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 01:08 | huginn` | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (1:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 01:08 | Francesca | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 01:08 | wahanui | :) |
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| 03:35 | * Francesca | does a happy dance |
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| 04:52 | eythian | well that reindex ran about 10× faster than normal. |
| 04:52 | I wonder what's wrong with it. | |
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| 04:55 | mario | @later tell cindy Ping me when you get in. Gracias |
| 04:55 | huginn` | mario: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:09 | eythian | 'MapperParsingException[mapping [data]]; nested: MapperParsingException[Unknown field [search_analyser]]; ' |
| 05:09 | ^-- damn you America and your poor excuse for spelling! | |
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| 05:36 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 05:36 | huginn` | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:52 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:52 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
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| 07:00 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:01 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:34 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:34 | wahanui | bonjour, gaetan_B |
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| 07:36 | liw | rangi, blog: why I don't use github or facebook |
| 07:36 | gah | |
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| 07:36 | liw | rangi, I meant to say, I think this might be of interest to you: http://enricozini.org/2014/debian/debops/ |
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| 08:42 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:42 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 19.4°C (10:42 AM CEST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:44 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage, uk |
| 08:44 | huginn` | ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 16.9°C (9:40 AM BST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:44 | cait | hi ashimema :) |
| 08:44 | ashimema | good morning cait |
| 08:44 | back from hols now.. :) | |
| 08:44 | cait | oh nice - where have you been? |
| 08:46 | ashimema | norfolk broads. |
| 08:46 | was nice.. no wifi or mobile signal so had to stay completely offline for a week.. | |
| 08:46 | nice.. but the mountain of emails is even wrose than usual this morning ;) | |
| 08:47 | cait | heh |
| 08:47 | you probably can delete a lot of them *optimistic* | |
| 08:48 | ashimema | one would hope |
| 08:48 | I tend to find if your only away for a week though, that no-one else picks them up for you as things can wait a week usually.. | |
| 08:49 | if you go away for two.. I often find the email queue is actually clearer ;) | |
| 08:54 | cait | heh - so always leave for 2 weeks! |
| 08:57 | ashimema | hehe.. indeed |
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| 10:22 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 10:22 | huginn` | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (10:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:40 | nlegrand | hey #koha |
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| 10:56 | kivilahtio | Why aren't we using Moose for Koha::Object? |
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| 11:03 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 11:38 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 11:38 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:40 | cait | kivilahtio: talking about hiding the record - not the items. the code snippet is there on purpose in my understanding |
| 11:41 | kivilahtio | cait: it is too late to hide it there. It needs to be hidden in the search results, now it just causes misery. |
| 11:41 | cait | it's the feature as it was written |
| 11:41 | you can't just change the behaviour | |
| 11:41 | i have a lot of libraries using it BECAUSE it will also hide the record | |
| 11:42 | the other option is to display a nice message, like the feature drojf did for opacsuppression | |
| 11:42 | or make it optional - keeping the behaviour for existing installations | |
| 11:45 | kivilahtio | cait: Ok. |
| 11:46 | cait: with my patch I get the text "No physical items for this record" | |
| 11:46 | cait: what if that text was changed to "No Items currently available" | |
| 11:47 | cait: this way we can still see the record and tell users that no items are available, instead of no items exists, because the search results listing says items exists. | |
| 11:47 | this would cause unnecessary complexity to the templates they don't need. | |
| 11:47 | and it would be better to fix it in the search layer. | |
| 11:48 | cait | kivilahtio: the point is that the bibliographic information shouldn't show either :) |
| 11:48 | that's the expected behaviou | |
| 11:48 | r | |
| 11:48 | kivilahtio | cait: what if you want to export hte MARC? |
| 11:48 | cait | some libraries are not really keen on showing any records without item |
| 11:48 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 11:49 | point taken | |
| 11:49 | cait | the expectation is that it's hidden - i am not saying other use cases wouldn't make sense too |
| 11:49 | just that we can't change the existing behaviur by just deleting the code - we need to make it an option | |
| 11:49 | kivilahtio | cait: I dont want YASP |
| 11:49 | cait | the surprise if you use that to hide internal stuff and it just reappears on update would not be appreciated i think |
| 11:49 | kivilahtio | I agree |
| 11:50 | I will just let it be like that since we are going to change to ElasticSearch and be done with this Zebra madness | |
| 11:50 | no point resuscitating it | |
| 11:52 | drojf | i don't think the function will change with elasticsearch, as it is supposed to replace zebra and work how zebra works now… (missed the beginning of your discussion though) |
| 11:55 | cait | drojf: maybe it filters the records out before they go into the display... |
| 11:55 | that would fix the issue of holes in the listed results | |
| 11:55 | but i can't even tell if robin has implemented opachiddenitems for elasticsearch yet | |
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| 11:59 | drojf | i suppose it is not his biggest concern at the moment :) |
| 12:03 | kivilahtio | prolly not :) |
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| 12:38 | nlegrand | Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/koha-src/C4/Context.pm line 793. |
| 12:38 | ^ I've read this is because I don't have a KOHA_CONF in my apache2 conf | |
| 12:38 | kivilahtio | nlegrand: you dont have the databse user configured corectly |
| 12:39 | nlegrand | but, I'm pretty sure I've got one... You don't know any other common issues with this error ? |
| 12:39 | kivilahtio: argh, that may be possible, thanks | |
| 12:39 | kivilahtio | nlegrand: we get that when the Perl script tries to connect to DB but MariaDB/MySQL permissions are not set |
| 12:39 | nlegrand: there definetely should be some other kind of an error notification | |
| 12:39 | nlegrand: that is actually quite common error to happen | |
| 12:40 | nlegrand: and remembering why it happens is occasionally a pain. | |
| 12:40 | nlegrand: you can easily test it by connecting to your MariaDB server from the command line | |
| 12:41 | nlegrand | kivilahtio: found it... I forgot to create the database... It's fixed now, thanks kivilahtio :) |
| 12:41 | kivilahtio | nlegrand: thanks you! |
| 12:41 | nlegrand: we all love your work | |
| 12:41 | nlegrand | mhm |
| 12:42 | kivilahtio: are you sure i'm the personn you think I am? :) | |
| 12:42 | Cause I've just contributed tiny bits to koha ^^ | |
| 12:42 | kivilahtio | nlegrand: I think so, but if not, then somebody somewhere still loves your work |
| 12:43 | nlegrand | my nick looks a bit like nengard's maybe ^^ |
| 12:43 | kivilahtio: ^^ | |
| 12:43 | kivilahtio | nlegrand: that is true |
| 12:43 | liw | I was told anyone who's contributed even a single bit to Koha is an awesome hero. I think so. (self-promotion aside) |
| 12:43 | cait | :) |
| 12:43 | kivilahtio | that is also a good point |
| 12:44 | liw: where did you hear that? | |
| 12:44 | liw | kivilahtio, I think from rangi, at the Catalyst offices. My memory may have paraphrased a little. |
| 12:46 | * cait | wishes once again we had a timestamp on the borrowers table |
| 12:46 | kivilahtio | liw: have you been to New Zealand? |
| 12:46 | cait: we should have timestamps in every table | |
| 12:46 | cait: last_mod_time | |
| 12:47 | liw | kivilahtio, I was in NZ for a few months in 2010, and worked for Catalyst for a bit, adding Debian packaging to Koha |
| 12:47 | cait | yep, but borrowers is especially annoying today |
| 12:47 | and the patron import tool shoudl tell me which duplicate cardnumbers it refused to load... not only the last one :) | |
| 12:47 | so liw totally IS a koha hero :) | |
| 12:47 | kivilahtio | liw: How did you end up there? |
| 12:48 | it is a long way from Finland. | |
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| 12:48 | liw | kivilahtio, my gf and I wanted to on an adventure, so we went to NZ. (then got married in England, later) |
| 12:49 | kivilahtio | liw: wow, sounds like a great trip |
| 12:49 | liw: getting married is worth it | |
| 12:49 | liw | kivilahtio, clarification: we lived abroad for five years, getting married happened years after NZ :) |
| 12:49 | anyway, that's not interesting | |
| 12:49 | cait | hah, borrowernumber = date loaded.... somehow |
| 12:50 | kivilahtio | haah |
| 12:50 | liw | cait, I'd give most of the credit to eythian (and others?) who continue to maintain the packaging |
| 12:50 | kivilahtio | liw: I think travelling is always interesting |
| 12:50 | take care | |
| 12:50 | cait | liw: but you got the stone rolling :) |
| 12:50 | liw | cait, I moved a small pebble and it became an avalanche |
| 12:56 | kivilahtio | man we're rolling! |
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| 13:14 | tcohen | morning! |
| 13:14 | cait | morning tcohen |
| 13:18 | drojf | mveron++ #lots of signoffs |
| 13:19 | tcohen | hey, let me shrink my queue damn it |
| 13:19 | :-D | |
| 13:19 | hi drojf | |
| 13:30 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.197 pasted "cait: look" (77 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/17 |
| 13:35 | tcohen | @seen Joubu |
| 13:35 | huginn` | tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Joubu> I will be off for the next 2 weeks, see you! |
| 13:38 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 13:42 | tcohen | question: what might prevent 'warn' to print on the screen? |
| 13:42 | I introduced one in C4::Circultaion for debugging | |
| 13:43 | and cannot get the output | |
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| 15:59 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 16:02 | cait | tcohen: where did you put the warn? |
| 16:02 | ah sorry, scrolling was broken | |
| 16:02 | and nothing is int he logs? | |
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| 16:12 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:58 | tcohen | I put it at the beggining of Circultation.pm:AddReturn |
| 16:59 | the warn worked on the staff interface, but it didn't on the shell | |
| 16:59 | I was using kohadevbox with Debian7.8 | |
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| 19:50 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:50 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 20.6°C (9:49 PM CEST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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| 20:10 | pianohacker | hi cait :) |
| 20:10 | how are ya? | |
| 20:11 | rangi | morning |
| 20:12 | pianohacker | hi rangi |
| 20:12 | Dyrcona | kia ora, rangi. |
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| 20:12 | Dyrcona | doh! wrong key. ;) |
| 20:12 | rangi | heh |
| 20:14 | cait | morning |
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| 22:32 | eythian | hi |
| 22:40 | cait: I haven't implemented opacsupression yet, hiddenitems will probably work anyway as its external to the search process. | |
| 22:40 | cait | eythian: ok |
| 22:41 | i was mostly trying to explain that we can't change existing behaviour :) | |
| 22:44 | eythian | ah good, I remember having that discussion with someone recently ;) |
| 22:44 | cait | :P |
| 22:45 | going to sleep - bye all :) | |
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| 22:55 | Francesca | morning |
| 22:57 | eythian | wahanui: good morning |
| 22:57 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
| 22:57 | eythian | yeah, that |
| 22:57 | wahanui | i heard yeah, that was cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... |
| 22:59 | Francesca | thats sad wahanui |
| 23:00 | hi eythian | |
| 23:08 | cdickinson_ | I feel dead |
| 23:08 | and apparently, so does my nick | |
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| 23:28 | Francesca | hahaha |
| 23:30 | hey cdickinson if you feel dead, am I now talking to ghost_cdickinson? | |
| 23:31 | cdickinson | that would be cdickinson when cdickinson_ is here |
| 23:31 | which is too often | |
| 23:31 | * eythian | points out that there is a ghost kill command |
| 23:32 | cdickinson | yep, know about it |
| 23:32 | but automating it in XChat is something I don't know how to do yet | |
| 23:32 | as for general deadness, Francesca, you're talking to ghost_cdickinson in spirit, all the time | |
| 23:34 | Francesca | hahaha ok |
| 23:37 | cdickinson | makes me want to ask the pros whether or not the long nights and taking work home ever ends |
| 23:37 | eythian | we're contractually obliged not to answer that. |
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| 23:37 | cdickinson | silenced by the powers that be |
| 23:38 | Francesca | cdickinson - no matter how much I get done I always end up bringing stuff home regardless |
| 23:38 | (this includes work at uni) | |
| 23:43 | cdickinson | hehe |
| 23:43 | alright, I'm off, ciao | |
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