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00:01 | wizzyrea | are you singing at the capital 150 thing on saturday? |
00:01 | Francesca | yup |
00:01 | u coming? | |
00:01 | Orpheus is dave dobbins backup | |
00:02 | I have rehearsal tonight which is why I'm not coming in this afternoon | |
00:02 | I need to retain some of my sanity and that unfortunately means doing uni work | |
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02:41 | * Francesca | is tired |
02:42 | cdickinson | only the second week of the trimester and you're saying that |
02:42 | doesn't bode well :P | |
02:43 | Francesca | yeah doesn't does it |
02:43 | might be something to do with the fact I have a lot of extra choir stuff this week | |
02:44 | how did ur presentation go dickinson? | |
02:44 | * Francesca | sighs |
02:44 | Francesca | cdickinson |
02:44 | stupid autocorrect | |
02:44 | cdickinson | how it went still makes me laugh |
02:45 | Francesca | oh? |
02:45 | do go on | |
02:45 | cdickinson | ended up doing all the prep for it yesterday morning, didn't make a script or anything, all ad lib |
02:45 | first up at 3pm, had to go move my car at 2:30pm because I couldn't find a park anywhere | |
02:45 | Francesca | hahaha those are the best |
02:45 | oh dear | |
02:46 | but it went well? | |
02:46 | cdickinson | ended up getting there just before I was up, tired, gasping for air, unhappy |
02:46 | yet it wasn't a disaster | |
02:46 | it went well enough | |
02:46 | Got some good feedback | |
02:46 | Francesca | glad to hear it |
02:47 | you still planning to apply for the internship this summer? | |
02:47 | cdickinson | my supervisors say to look forward to feedback from one particular marker though x_x |
02:47 | absolutely | |
02:47 | Francesca | cool, I'm just about to get in touch and ask what we need to do |
02:48 | I'll pass the info onto you if you like | |
02:48 | cdickinson | That'd be awesome, thanks Francesca |
02:48 | Francesca | once I hear back that is |
02:48 | no worries, it'd be cool to do an internship with you | |
02:48 | cdickinson | I was just going to have a chat with rangi or something about the avenues I'd need to go through, if there is nothing on Summer of Tech |
02:49 | actually, I'd rather not go through Summer of Tech at all | |
02:49 | Francesca | oh I don't think he actually knows whats going on with internships |
02:49 | we talk to someone else instead | |
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02:49 | * Francesca | waves at tcohen |
02:49 | eythian | tcohen: hi |
02:49 | wahanui | hey, eythian |
02:50 | eythian | tcohen: also, I uploaded new master packages with my patches in them |
02:51 | tcohen | hi |
02:51 | thanks eythian | |
02:51 | just to say hi, is really late already | |
02:51 | eythian | it's only mid-afternoon, tcohen |
02:52 | tcohen | have a good day/nght |
02:52 | eythian | an hour from beer o'clock |
02:52 | tcohen | heh |
02:52 | eythian | later :) |
02:52 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
02:52 | huginn` | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on July 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). |
02:52 | tcohen | here is cabernet-sauvignon o'clock |
02:52 | heh | |
02:52 | eythian | there will probably be some of that here too |
02:53 | * Francesca | has a problem |
02:53 | cdickinson | beer, cider, some shots fly around |
02:53 | and passionfruit juice, man that stuff is glorious | |
02:53 | Francesca | my apache configuration file doesn't seem to have this line |
02:53 | LogFormat "%v:%p %h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %O \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" vhost_combined | |
02:54 | which according to the guide I'm following it should | |
02:54 | eythian | I don't feel like that line would be necessary |
02:55 | also, what guide? | |
02:55 | Francesca | https://bugzilla.readthedocs.o[…]pache.html#apache |
02:55 | that guide | |
02:55 | eythian | oh |
02:56 | look for a logformat line | |
02:56 | it might not be identical, you might have a newer version or something, | |
02:56 | Francesca | can't find any log format line at all |
02:57 | eythian | I would skip that instruction then |
02:57 | Francesca | okey doke |
02:58 | restart apache it is | |
02:58 | thanks eythian | |
02:58 | eythian | np |
02:58 | pianohacker | bye |
02:58 | eythian | hi |
02:58 | pianohacker | I mean hi |
02:58 | other way | |
02:58 | wahanui | other way is to pass the array as an arrayref |
02:59 | Francesca | hahahaha bye hi pianohacker |
02:59 | right now onto configuring apache with mod_cgi | |
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03:06 | Francesca | oh fantastic |
03:06 | now the computer won't let me save the changes to the apache file | |
03:06 | grrrrrr | |
03:08 | anyone around still? | |
03:08 | cdickinson | yep |
03:09 | Francesca | got any ideas or brilliant solutions |
03:09 | cdickinson | for it not saving changes? |
03:09 | what's the error? | |
03:09 | Francesca | brackets lets me edit but not save the apache configuration file |
03:10 | the terminal won't open it or do whatever its supposed to do | |
03:10 | it says permission denied | |
03:10 | eythian | what are you trying to do, and what is the result you are getting? |
03:10 | what is "brackets"? | |
03:10 | Francesca | Text editor |
03:10 | eythian | and what is it that says "permission denied"? |
03:10 | Francesca | terminal |
03:11 | eythian | the terminal only shows things that other programs tell it to show |
03:11 | Francesca | when I put this line /etc/apache2/httpd.conf in the terminal and hit enter |
03:11 | eythian | what is telling it to say "permission denied"? |
03:11 | Francesca | absolutely no idea |
03:11 | eythian | if you put that line into a shell, you're telling it to run that. |
03:11 | that is probably not a thing you want to do. | |
03:11 | Francesca | heres the error -bash: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Permission denied |
03:11 | eythian | yeah |
03:11 | you're asking the system to run it | |
03:12 | which isn't a thing that makes sense | |
03:12 | Francesca | according to bugzilla I've got to be able to edit the configuration file |
03:12 | eythian | you need to edit it with a text editor |
03:12 | Francesca | yeah tried that |
03:12 | it won't let me save changes | |
03:12 | eythian | and that text editor will need root privileges |
03:12 | Francesca | how do I check if it has root privileges on a mac? |
03:12 | cdickinson | does Mac OS support sudo? |
03:12 | eythian | I don't know |
03:13 | Francesca | Has worked for me so far |
03:13 | wizzyrea | ls -lah should tell you useful things |
03:13 | in the directory with the config file | |
03:13 | in terminal. | |
03:13 | eythian | that's where my knowledge of real systems keeps going, and knowlege of macs stops. |
03:13 | cdickinson | Francesca, use "sudo [text editor] /etc/apache2/httpd.conf" |
03:13 | Francesca | okey doke thanks |
03:13 | * Francesca | needs to get ubuntu dual booted on her laptop |
03:14 | cdickinson | just having a normal VM is probably less of a pain |
03:14 | Francesca | it runs so slow though |
03:14 | I have virtual box installed | |
03:14 | cdickinson | you need to allocate more resources to the VM |
03:14 | Francesca | umm ok |
03:14 | I don't think I know how to do that | |
03:15 | in the meantime I'll just keep going on mac | |
03:15 | eythian | it's not a given that that is the issue |
03:15 | cdickinson | that's true |
03:15 | eythian | for example, maybe the CPU doesn't have virtualisation extensions. |
03:15 | cdickinson | Or maybe it's disabled by default |
03:15 | way, way too many computers come like that | |
03:15 | * Francesca | is slightly confused niw |
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03:15 | Francesca | for all I know about websites and code |
03:16 | cdickinson | Francesca: there is a hardware feature called virtualisation extensions that make running VMs fast |
03:16 | eythian | using a mac will be quite like pushing poo uphill. |
03:16 | Francesca | I know nothing about configuring my laptop |
03:16 | cdickinson | but for some stupid reason, almost everybody turns it off by default |
03:16 | Francesca | why?? what is the point in turning off something so useful |
03:16 | I will go and find out how to turn it on | |
03:16 | if it is off | |
03:16 | I should check that first | |
03:17 | cdickinson | https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203296 - according to this, it IS enabled by default when running Mac OS |
03:17 | Francesca | ok so thats not the problem then |
03:18 | cdickinson | do you know what model MacBook you have? |
03:18 | Francesca | mackbook pro 13inch retina screen |
03:18 | 2014 model | |
03:19 | arghh I give up | |
03:19 | * Francesca | starts up virtual box |
03:19 | cdickinson | Not exactly a powerhouse, but it should work decently enough |
03:19 | actually, there is one more thing | |
03:20 | eythian | check the RAM allocated to the VM |
03:20 | Francesca | I'm listning |
03:20 | how do I do that? | |
03:20 | cdickinson | right click on the VM in the manager -> Settings |
03:20 | click on the "System" tab thing | |
03:21 | mtj | hey Francesca, fwiw... i run a debian vbox on osx, no problems |
03:21 | Francesca | hmm I've had problems with the speed |
03:21 | but other than that its fine | |
03:22 | mtj | ah, yep.. youve got an mac air huh? |
03:22 | cdickinson | Base Memory is the amount of RAM you've got allocated to it. I usually dedicate 2GB for any VM I'm doing serious work on |
03:22 | Francesca | pro |
03:23 | cdickinson | https://support.apple.com/kb/S[…]n_NZ&locale=en_NZ |
03:23 | Francesca | I've got 1024 mb |
03:23 | cdickinson | 1024MB will work, but you've got RAM to spare |
03:23 | the less RAM you have, the more it has to swap to disk, and that's REALLY slow | |
03:23 | mtj | Francesca: youve got a recent macbook pro, with an ssd ? |
03:24 | Francesca | the one from last year yeah |
03:24 | not sure I know what ssd is | |
03:24 | mm thats the way I set up the vm with rangi | |
03:24 | but I can increase the allowance if you think thats a better idea | |
03:25 | cdickinson | it certainly doesn't hurt to |
03:26 | Francesca | I'll bump it up to 1gb for now |
03:26 | cdickinson | 1024MB == 1GB? |
03:26 | Francesca | the most I'll be doing on it for the moment is installing bugzilla and creating a new skin |
03:27 | cdickinson: you seem confused, am I confusing you? | |
03:27 | I think I'm confusing myself | |
03:27 | cdickinson | you said it's already at 1024MB, and that you'd be bumping it up to 1GB. 1GB is 1024MB, so that would do nothing |
03:27 | mtj | Francesca: many of my vbox VMs are only 1gig RAM, with no speed problems |
03:27 | Francesca | okey doke |
03:27 | 1gb it is the | |
03:27 | then | |
03:28 | thanks mtj, dickinson, eythian | |
03:28 | cdickinson | there is one more thing |
03:28 | VirtualBox includes some guest extensions that should be installed on the VMs in order to improve performance and stuff | |
03:28 | mtj | .. on a macbook pro (mid 2012), with an SSD drive |
03:29 | cdickinson | it's especially important for Linux as it includes drivers for the 3D graphics |
03:29 | do you know if you've installed it, Francesca? | |
03:29 | Francesca | yes I want the one that allows copying between my os and the vb |
03:30 | cdickinson | are you not able to do that at the moment? |
03:30 | Francesca | can't remember rangi and I set up the vm much earlier in the year |
03:30 | nope | |
03:30 | cdickinson | the bidirectional clipboard is something you have to enable specifically? |
03:30 | sorry, no question mark, it is | |
03:30 | Still got the settings window for the VM open? | |
03:30 | Francesca | yup |
03:31 | cdickinson | go to the General tab, then Advanced -> Shared Clipboard |
03:31 | flip that to bidirectional | |
03:31 | Might as well enable drag n drop as well | |
03:31 | Francesca | I was just about to ask that |
03:31 | mind reader | |
03:31 | cdickinson | restart your VM |
03:31 | Let me know if it works | |
03:32 | Francesca | they were disabled but I've enabled them now |
03:32 | just gotta increase the memory (I haven't done it yet) | |
03:32 | then I'll start up the vm and let you know | |
03:33 | * Francesca | realises stupidly that she already had agh of memory |
03:34 | Francesca | faceplate faceplate facepalm |
03:34 | eythian | wahanui: facepalm |
03:34 | wahanui | facepalm is a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity. |
03:34 | Francesca | and auto correct has returned with a vengeance |
03:34 | hahahahahahahaha I love it | |
03:34 | cdickinson | * Francesca realises stupidly that she already had agh of memory <--- that's what I was trying to point out |
03:35 | Francesca | wahanui: botsnack cookie |
03:35 | wahanui | :) |
03:35 | Francesca | cdickinson: I figured |
03:35 | my brain is not working today | |
03:35 | eythian | wahanui: status |
03:35 | wahanui | Since Wed Jul 15 22:30:23 2015, there have been 147 modifications and 34 questions. I have been awake for 8 days, 5 hours, 5 minutes, 3 seconds this session, and currently reference 44594 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
03:35 | cdickinson | it's okay, I can do worse |
03:36 | Francesca | Really? wow |
03:36 | cdickinson | at least once a week, I walk into my own bedroom door while trying to open it |
03:36 | Francesca | hahahahahahaha |
03:36 | eythian | one day quantum tunneling will cause you to pass right htrough |
03:36 | that'll be a confusing day. | |
03:36 | mtj | hmmm, would be interesting to run some benchmarks on various VMs |
03:36 | * Francesca | is dying of laughter |
03:37 | cdickinson | if that happened to me, I'd immediately go and try to divide by zero |
03:37 | just to make sure I was living in reality | |
03:37 | Francesca | hahahahaha |
03:37 | ask siri to do it | |
03:38 | right vm up and running | |
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03:38 | cdickinson | try copy and pasting text. Files, I'm not sure if it does that |
03:39 | francesca_ | right using irc from the vm now |
03:39 | (copied from mac) <Directory /Library/WebServer/Documents/bugzilla> | |
03:39 | AddHandler cgi-script .cgi | |
03:39 | Options +ExecCGI +FollowSymLinks | |
03:39 | DirectoryIndex index.cgi index.html | |
03:39 | AllowOverride Limit FileInfo Indexes Options | |
03:39 | </Directory> | |
03:39 | yup it works | |
03:40 | thanks cdickinson | |
03:40 | cdickinson | okay, so you DO have the guest extensions installed then |
03:40 | eythian | future step is to work SSHed into the VM rather than on its console, and remove all the GUI stuff altogether. |
03:40 | francesca_ | yeah |
03:40 | and have enabled them | |
03:40 | eythian: slightly confused | |
03:40 | eythian | nobody uses servers with a gui because it's a terrible idea |
03:40 | effectively, you have a small server inside your mac now. | |
03:41 | francesca_ | ok |
03:41 | eythian | so you should be using it the way that servers are used, not the way desktop computers are used. |
03:41 | cdickinson | Remoting into the server allows you to use your desktop GUI, rather than being confined to a small window |
03:41 | francesca_ | i like that idea |
03:41 | eythian | also, it uses a lot less resources |
03:41 | francesca_ | I ssh into my vagrant vm |
03:42 | just not the one with ubuntu installed | |
03:44 | right | |
03:44 | time to install bugzilla | |
03:47 | cdickinson | is it still slow? cause if there is enough RAM and you have guest additions installed, I'm stumped haha |
03:47 | francesca_ | seems to bw fine now |
03:48 | *be | |
03:48 | cdickinson | if it still slows down, only other thing I can think of is check that 3D Acceleration is enabled... it should be enabled by default but you never know |
03:50 | francesca_ | right I'll keep that in mind |
03:50 | I can always show you next friday | |
03:50 | thats when I'll be in next | |
03:51 | cdickinson | Awesome, good to hear |
03:51 | where do music students normally live at Vic? | |
03:51 | francesca_ | what do you mean? |
03:51 | are you asking for hall of residence? | |
03:51 | cas I live at home | |
03:52 | eythian | they live in the small holes in trees. |
03:52 | francesca_ | nah everyone knows we live in pianos |
03:52 | cdickinson | a surprising amount of people crawl into small areas to sleep |
03:53 | francesca_ | not music students |
03:53 | as far as I know | |
03:54 | cdickinson | putting aside the fact that I was making a joke about how people spend too much time at Vic, what I meant to say was where do you hang out and study and stuff :P |
03:55 | you music people seem like a rare species | |
03:56 | francesca_ | uhh wishbone is fairly popular |
03:56 | so is the tiny little common room at the music school | |
03:57 | Francesca | and the vm is back to running slow |
03:58 | cdickinson | maybe something is happening in the background? |
03:58 | eythian | what does top say? |
03:58 | Francesca | f-vm [running] |
03:59 | eythian | that is not what top says |
03:59 | Francesca | I'm confused |
03:59 | eythian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE <-- also not what top says |
03:59 | cdickinson | top is a terminal command, Francesca |
03:59 | wizzyrea | I think he means type "top" into your terminal |
03:59 | :) | |
04:00 | eythian | specifically, the one inside the vm |
04:00 | wizzyrea | (it shows you what's eating up your resources) |
04:02 | Francesca | I'll let you know when I can work out how to screenshot |
04:02 | in the vm | |
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04:03 | * Francesca | is giving up for now |
04:03 | * eythian | would copy-paste into pastebin |
04:03 | will go for beer now instead though | |
04:03 | * Francesca | is going to sleep before rehearsal tonight |
04:04 | Francesca | its a 3 hour one |
04:04 | thanks for the help pythian, wizzyrea, cdickinson | |
04:04 | hmmm eythian auto correct thinks you are pythian | |
04:08 | cdickinson | that's alright |
04:09 | surprise surprise, pythian is a real word | |
04:10 | Francesca | I'm gonna try running my vm another time when I haven't got so much other stuff open on my desktop |
04:10 | right now I should attempt to find my sheet music, after all I do need it tonight | |
04:11 | cdickinson | priorities are straight as per usual, I see :D |
04:11 | well, that's what I'd say to myself anyway | |
04:11 | Francesca | oh shh |
04:11 | catalyst and music are equal | |
04:12 | in my mind | |
04:12 | any uni related work e.g.: quizs, assignments come much lower down the list | |
04:12 | I'd much rather build a website than write an essay | |
04:12 | wouldn't you? | |
04:13 | cdickinson | I would, you're exactly right |
04:13 | I have a funny feeling "do as I say, not as I do" is going to be a saying that will feature a lot in the future for me | |
04:14 | Francesca | hahahaha I couldn't agree more |
04:16 | cdickinson | alright, got my work committed |
04:17 | Francesca | cool |
04:17 | cdickinson | going to go for some not-so-beer o'clock now |
04:17 | Francesca | ok see ya |
04:17 | have fun | |
04:17 | cdickinson | Francesca, you should come in more often, you're fun to have chats with |
04:17 | Francesca | awww I'm touched |
04:18 | I'm planning on coming in every friday afternoon | |
04:18 | cdickinson | Perfect, cause that's my schedule as well |
04:18 | Francesca | Its just I have choir tonight so I needed a rest |
04:18 | cdickinson | Ah, nice |
04:18 | Francesca | and a concert tomorrow |
04:18 | we're backing up dave dobbyn | |
04:18 | cdickinson | o.O |
04:18 | Francesca | u shld come |
04:19 | tomorrow evening down at parliament | |
04:19 | cdickinson | Does it cost to get in? :P |
04:20 | cause I heard about this on TV this morning, but yeah | |
04:21 | http://www.eventfinda.co.nz/20[…]al-150/wellington - it's this, right? | |
04:21 | Francesca | yup |
04:21 | I think its free | |
04:21 | cdickinson | Yeah, it says it's free |
04:22 | Francesca | see if u can spot me in the choir |
04:22 | theres 100 of us | |
04:22 | cdickinson | I have decent eyes so hopefully |
04:22 | are you tied up there the whole time, or what? | |
04:23 | Francesca | I'll be till just after 6 |
04:23 | I have to be in kelburn for a contra dance at 7,30 so wasn't planning on staying for the light show | |
04:24 | you wanna meet up after the performance is finished? | |
04:24 | cdickinson | Yeah, that'd be good |
04:24 | Francesca | Hmmm |
04:25 | I could meet you outside the parliament grounds | |
04:25 | cdickinson | Yeah |
04:25 | Francesca | might be easier than trying to find you in the crowd |
04:25 | cdickinson | That's true |
04:25 | Francesca | I'll txt you when i get to my phone |
04:25 | cdickinson | you'll probably need my number for that haha |
04:25 | PM'd | |
04:26 | Francesca | got it |
04:26 | cdickinson | my car has petrol and my wallet has pocket lint, so I'm driving in. I'd be able to take you up to the contra dance later, as well, if you want |
04:26 | Francesca | oh that'd be great! |
04:27 | cdickinson | Cool, done deal then |
04:30 | Francesca | lets meet outside parliament grounds round the front then |
04:30 | shouldn't be too crowded there | |
04:30 | cdickinson | Cool, shortly after 6. I'll note that down and not forget |
04:31 | Francesca | yup |
04:31 | I'll txt u if plans change, they'll be finnalising timings tonight | |
04:31 | cdickinson | Alright |
04:32 | Francesca | sweet |
04:33 | Right I gotta go do stuff now | |
04:33 | see you tomorrow cdickinson , bye #koha | |
04:33 | cdickinson | Okay, have fun, see you tomorrow :) |
04:33 | Francesca | :) |
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06:53 | reiveune | hello |
06:53 | wahanui | que tal, reiveune |
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06:57 | alex_a | bonjour |
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07:35 | gaetan_B | hello |
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09:19 | drojf | hi #koha |
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09:29 | cait | hi drojf |
09:29 | drojf | hi cait |
09:31 | i just learned that in bibliotheca plus, you have to send emails manually. you export them, and put them in outlook. and apparently now you even have to send each one manually | |
09:32 | cait | interesting |
09:32 | wahanui | i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
09:33 | drojf | i guess it's bad in this case :D |
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09:40 | clrh | cait: +1 ;) http://bugs.koha-community.org[…].cgi?id=7736#c118 (Hello) |
09:40 | huginn` | 04Bug 7736: new feature, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, In Discussion , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality |
09:41 | cait | clrh: i am trying, saldy not so much success in finding volunteers to help out with the taxes patches |
09:41 | i am a bit stuck on thsoe | |
09:42 | clrh | ... |
09:42 | I don't know how to help you | |
09:42 | for functionnal testings or more technical ? | |
09:42 | cait | that's alright |
09:42 | both - looking for another code review and maybe some acq testing data | |
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10:19 | nlegrand | hiya |
10:26 | cait: for the plugins I've done all that, enabling both ways, restarting server, and I watched Kyle's video. The most basic features, like the link in header.inc are not in the master branch. | |
10:26 | cait | hm? |
10:26 | nlegrand | Maybe I should wait for someone from ByWaters :), maybe they're still asleep right now :) |
10:26 | cait | i think you can access them via tools |
10:26 | khall ping :) | |
10:27 | which plugin were you looking at? | |
10:27 | khall | mornin! |
10:27 | nlegrand | \o/ |
10:27 | cait | morning khall :) |
10:27 | nlegrand | cait: Sink Kitchen first, the idea was more to developpe my owns ^^ |
10:27 | cait | khall: plugin queestions :) |
10:27 | nlegrand | khall: may I ask you about plugins ? |
10:27 | khall | sure! |
10:28 | nlegrand | khall: Thanks! It doesn't seem to work like in the video you made. For example, after enabling both ways and restarting web server, I don't have links. |
10:29 | cait | nlegrand: you turned of the pref, gave your user the permissions and koha-conf? |
10:29 | sorry to interrupt, just thought maybe there is a third option missing | |
10:32 | nlegrand | cait: user is super librarian |
10:32 | $ perl -MC4::Context -E "say C4::Context->config("enable_plugins"); say C4::Context->preference('UseKohaPlugins')" | |
10:32 | 1 | |
10:32 | 1 | |
10:32 | Restarted the server again, same effect | |
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10:33 | nlegrand | khall: then I use direct links and upload Kitchen Sink like said here : <http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/> |
10:33 | khall | nlegrand: can you to going to /cgi-bin/koha/plugins/plugins-home.pl for your server? |
10:33 | nlegrand | khall: yes |
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10:34 | khall | so you can go to plugins-home.pl and upload a plugin? |
10:34 | nlegrand | khall: but It doesn't propose to upload new plugins, and it doesn't list Kitchen Sink once I've uploaded whith plugins-upload.pl |
10:35 | khall: I have to go directly to plugins-upload to do so, it unzipped it cleanly in /var/lib/plugins | |
10:35 | khall: but it's not listed in plugins-home.pl then | |
10:36 | khall | nlegrand: I would try another plugin or two. Usually what that means is some part of the plugin failed to load. |
10:36 | nlegrand | ho right. |
10:37 | khall | try the patron last activity plugin, or the records by biblionumber plugin |
10:39 | cait | khall: can you help me out a little later understanding one of your patches? |
10:40 | khall | sure! |
10:46 | nlegrand | khall: they have been unzipped in the plugin directory, but I have "No plugins installed" in plugins-home.pl |
10:47 | khall | are there any error messages in your apache logs? |
10:47 | nlegrand | khall: no errors |
10:47 | I'm on a fresh master, my db may be a bit weird though. | |
10:50 | khall | nlegrand: i you apply this diff to your kohaclone you might see the errors: http://paste.koha-community.org/14 |
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10:56 | cait | khall: i am looking at the grace period bug |
10:56 | (12:09:15) cait: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]15135&oldid=14934 | |
10:56 | oops | |
10:57 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13590 | |
10:57 | huginn` | 04Bug 13590: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add ability to charge fines at start of charge period |
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10:57 | cait | still there? :) |
10:58 | khall | yep! |
10:58 | cait | i am wondering |
10:58 | in overdues.p,m | |
10:58 | why the use of INTERVAL_START? and INTERVAL_END? | |
10:58 | hm INTERVAL_END doesn't seem to be used actually | |
10:59 | khall | you're right about that it seems |
10:59 | cait | and i think you could just do == 1 below? |
10:59 | khall | basically, it's to give a name to those two arbitrary values |
11:00 | cait | hm i get what you meant, but i think it was a little confusing here |
11:00 | khall | ok, I'll add a followup then |
11:00 | cait | i hope to sign it soon |
11:00 | currently trying to adapt the algorithm for a custom fines script... | |
11:01 | they need your way of grace period calculation but with non-linear fines | |
11:01 | hope to build that into koha once some of the overdue patches have gone in | |
11:02 | khall | cool! |
11:02 | cait | just too worried about conflicts right now - lots of things inthe works there |
11:04 | nlegrand | khall: no errors, but, I realised some of my logs where for some reasons in the apache logs dir, and I have this: |
11:04 | [Fri Jul 24 12:59:36 2015] plugins-upload.pl: Use of uninitialized value $op in string eq at /home/koha/koha-src/plugins/plugins-upload.pl line 91. | |
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11:04 | khall | nlegrand: that's no a problem. |
11:04 | I'm afraid I'm out of ideas at this point! | |
11:05 | nlegrand | argh :) |
11:05 | thanks anyway | |
11:06 | khall | wish I had better news for you : \ |
11:06 | cait: I've updated the patch | |
11:07 | cait | thx! |
11:08 | khall: could you kill the +use Readonly; too? | |
11:08 | i could do it, but not yet signing and might forget | |
11:09 | nlegrand | khall: do the links should appear in the "More" menu on a koha master branch? I see no entry in the template: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eader.inc;hb=HEAD |
11:09 | khall | nlegrand: no, they links should show in the reports page and the tools page |
11:11 | nlegrand | khall: ha I have the one in the reports page, but not in tools page... Well, I'll search, thanks again :) |
11:11 | khall | np! |
11:13 | cait | thx khall :) |
11:13 | khall | np! |
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11:34 | matts | hi #koha ! |
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12:09 | barton | morning #koha! |
12:09 | I was wondering if anyone here has experience with VuFind? I'm especially interested in configuring / trouble-shooting the Koha-Rest driver. | |
12:10 | ... and if anyone considers themselves an expert, perhaps registering here: https://vufind.org/wiki/ils_support_list | |
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12:14 | cait | barton: you should talk to someone fromptfs europe maybe |
12:15 | barton: which driver are you looking at? | |
12:15 | drojf | the rest driver is the ptfs one |
12:15 | the other (old) one uses sql directly | |
12:16 | barton | I'm actually using a modified version of the ptfs driver that misilot sent me. |
12:18 | drojf | i have not had the time to try vufind again (the last time was before the rest driver), so i'm out |
12:19 | barton | the ptfs version can be found here: https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/vufind -- I can't remember the branch name off hand -- probably Koha-Rest or something very similar. |
12:20 | misilot | barton: what's up |
12:20 | drojf | i think it is part of vufind these days |
12:20 | cait | koha-driver |
12:21 | i think they had a request going to get it integrated | |
12:21 | i amnot sure what happened | |
12:21 | barton | misilot: talking about vufind in general. I was giving back-story. |
12:21 | your name came up :-) | |
12:21 | misilot | ah :) |
12:21 | wasn't sure if you needed any help with it | |
12:24 | barton | misilot: well, yes and no... I think that a good chunk of my problem right now is that I just don't know enough about VuFind in general... I've been going down very specific avenues, without any context. |
12:24 | time to back up and get a better idea of what I'm doing. | |
12:25 | misilot | ah ok :) |
12:25 | i'm gonna try and put some of my changes out there publically and try and get them merged into VuFind stable possibl | |
12:25 | possibly | |
12:26 | barton | nod. |
12:26 | misilot | i just need to figure out a better way to gracefully handle the custom parts of authentication that we added. where I do not use koha username and passwords for authenticating to the backend |
12:26 | for users | |
12:30 | barton | Yeah, that's one of the places that I'm running into trouble as well: the site that I'm integrating with is using LDAP; as soon as it hits user data, it's prompting for a login, and I have no clue about the plumbing inside Vufind that's making that happen... I can see a login method inside the KohaRest driver (or something like that)... but I don |
12:31 | I don't have clue 1 about how that's called or how it interacts with Koha. | |
12:32 | misilot | let me try and put my custom code up into a branch on github, and see if I can walk you through it. I'm not using LDAP for VuFind, but I am using CAS so it may be similar enough |
12:33 | barton | misilot++ |
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13:00 | cait | have a nice weekend #koha |
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13:07 | barton | cait, misilot, drojf : just added http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ernal_Integration -- pretty bare bones at the moment, but it's a start. |
13:07 | misilot | barton: https://github.com/misilot/vuf[…]9bc0d5629549R1498 |
13:09 | the username is our *identifier* for koha so I just look up based on ID and don't actually authenticate the patron | |
13:09 | since the external source is doing that | |
13:13 | barton | misilot: nod ... so you're treating Koha as read-only, correct? |
13:13 | misilot | barton: what do you mean? |
13:13 | I can place holds/renewal/cancel holds etc through the ILSDI driver | |
13:14 | barton | you can't do anything lik placing holds via VuFind. |
13:14 | misilot | yes, i can ^^ |
13:15 | that | |
13:15 | As long as the ILSDI driver allows it, I can do it | |
13:15 | barton | nod. |
13:15 | misilot | The only wonky thing is, the overdue page in VuFind, it shows all items checked out |
13:16 | the fine page I mean not the overdue page | |
13:16 | barton | ah. |
13:16 | misilot | and all items checked out = previously checked out |
13:16 | I haven't had time to or want enough to care about that little misconecption, since our fines are put into the Finance system for the university | |
13:18 | barton | I think that perhaps I need to learn more about Koha's ILSDI as well... it's not a corner of Koha that I've played in before. |
13:19 | misilot | barton: http://demo.bywatersolutions.c[…]bin/koha/ilsdi.pl |
13:19 | barton | A little experience will trump a lot of theory. |
13:19 | misilot | barton: think of it is the pre rest/ rest driver for Koha |
13:24 | barton | hm. I'm going to have some fun playing with that... |
13:25 | misilot | barton: but we have VuFind running just like we did with our previous vendor. Possibly even a little smoother |
13:25 | barton: https://github.com/misilot/vuf[…]tree/fit-koharest here is the branch with our current production code | |
13:26 | I need to clean it up a bunch, but I might try and do that when I'm on vacation next week and try and get it submitted to VuFind. | |
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13:26 | misilot | My code does make some alterations I believe to show shelving location instead of which library has it, since we are a single branch |
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15:49 | tcohen | late morning |
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16:31 | gaetan_B | hi tcohen, i'm busy signing off bug 12252, but i'm not sure how to sign off multiple patches at once |
16:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , OAI-PMH GetRecord result doesn't include item data |
16:31 | gaetan_B | that whole HEAD~2^ thing is not very clear to me |
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16:33 | gaetan_B | i have 6 patches to attach so i feel like doing git bz attach -e 12252 HEAD~^5 would do |
16:33 | just not too sure about myself here | |
16:36 | drojf | gaetan_B: does that help? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]re_than_one_patch |
16:37 | gaetan_B | well that's what i am looking at right now |
16:37 | tcohen | gaetan_B: I usually do git bz apply -s BUG# |
16:38 | gaetan_B | i have already applied and tested all patches |
16:38 | i have to attach them to bugzilla now | |
16:39 | i have tried doing git bz attach -e 12252 HEAD~^5.. which seemed like it was what i wanted from reading the wiki | |
16:39 | drojf | but it dod not work? |
16:39 | *did | |
16:40 | i did it before with git bz attach -e xxxx <commitid of first commit, e.g. b50ea9bd>^.. | |
16:40 | gaetan_B | no, probably because, my vm is in an lxc container, but i am sending the git-bz commands from outside the container |
16:40 | drojf | get the commitid from git log |
16:41 | gaetan_B | aaah this looks promising :) |
16:41 | reiveune | bye |
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16:44 | gaetan_B | it worked, thanks drojf! |
16:45 | drojf | great! |
16:45 | khall | heydevs so my mac pro won't even boot now |
16:45 | what's the zoom url we were using? | |
16:46 | oops, wrong channel! | |
16:50 | xarragon | Okay, probably something obvious.. But my MARC::Record objects do not have a to_xml() method, even when MARC::File::XML is used. Anyone know what it can be? |
16:50 | tcohen | gaetan_B++ |
16:50 | khall: sorry to hear! | |
16:50 | gaetan_B | :) nice way to end the week i guess! |
16:50 | tcohen | gaetan_B: you rock |
16:50 | gaetan_B | :D |
16:51 | tcohen | xarragon: are you sure? |
16:54 | xarragon | tcohen: Hm, it was supposed to be as_xml() actually |
16:54 | tcohen | yeap |
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16:55 | xarragon | tcohen: Uh, it actually works now.. magically |
16:55 | tcohen | it is gmcharlt's aura |
16:56 | he's always around, looking after his beloved lib | |
16:56 | xarragon | tcohen:Does the MARC::File::XML has to be used before the MARC::Record? |
16:56 | tcohen | xarragon: i don't think so |
16:57 | xarragon | Because I belive I changed that before starting to Data::Dump all over.. |
16:57 | tcohen | MARC::File::XML includes MARC::Record |
16:57 | isn't it? | |
16:58 | it extends MARC::Record/MARC::File injecting more methods | |
16:58 | http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]/MARC/File/XML.pm | |
16:58 | xarragon | I was probably just missing to use it then. Called the as_xml() on a record object without using it. Makes sense, since I pasted in parts from another file into a small test script. |
16:59 | tcohen | xarragon: it is friday, it is supposed to be like that on fridays |
16:59 | xarragon | Ah, yes, I fixed the error by using the XML module.. But went on adding dumping code |
16:59 | I see it in the bash scrollback. | |
17:00 | Okay, thanks for the mental support. | |
17:00 | And for some reason I imagined that Dumper would print the methods. | |
17:01 | tcohen | xarragon: I always usa Data::Printer |
17:01 | warn p($object); | |
17:02 | xarragon | "colored pretty-printer" |
17:03 | It better be l33t since I can no longer do the "dumping pun" when I use it.. | |
17:03 | Oh, I like. | |
17:03 | Much more compact and complete! | |
17:03 | tcohen | xarragon: u r welcome |
17:04 | xarragon | tcohen: Thank you veryt much! |
17:05 | tcohen: very* | |
17:05 | tcohen | de nada |
17:05 | xarragon | gracias |
17:13 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14107: Patron cards: Make barcode width and height scaling editable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7bf294b65ed2ddf2d> / Bug 14268: Followup - instruction for preftype selection <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9665bd4c7498a9e55> / Bug 14268: Use dropdown for variable types <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
17:26 | gaetan_B | bye |
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18:04 | tcohen | quick question: anyone remembers how to query a koha<->marc mapping? |
18:04 | through the API of course | |
18:05 | * tcohen | laughs nervously |
18:06 | tcohen | oh my |
18:06 | there's no such a thing as an API for that! | |
18:09 | khall: around? | |
18:09 | pianohacker | tcohen: we're on a call atm |
18:09 | tcohen | oh, sorry |
18:09 | pianohacker | np |
18:19 | tcohen | how do i get a value of a specific column from a result set? |
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19:19 | tonys | Is anyone here that could help me understand why my :80 doesn't bring up the OPAC but it brings up the Apache "This Works" page. Port 8080 is walking just fine. |
19:20 | pianohacker | tonys: what linux distro? |
19:20 | tonys | Ubuntu 12.04 |
19:22 | pianohacker | tonys: what's in your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ directory? |
19:27 | tonys | pianohacker <<< 000.default and Library |
19:27 | sorry library.conf | |
19:27 | pianohacker | tonys: sudo a2dissite 000.default |
19:29 | tonys | can't find the a2dissite |
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19:29 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
19:30 | pianohacker | *blink* that's odd. |
19:30 | tonys | My error got it -- indicates 000.default doesn't exsist |
19:30 | mtompset | That I exist, or something else? ;) |
19:30 | pianohacker | hi mtompset |
19:31 | tonys: try just default then | |
19:31 | mtompset | Greetings, pianohacker tonys. |
19:31 | tonys | Greeting mtompset |
19:31 | mtompset | jcamins: Can I ask you a question about Koha::RecordProcessor? |
19:31 | @seen jcamins | |
19:31 | huginn` | mtompset: jcamins was last seen in #koha 5 days, 7 hours, 15 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <jcamins> Hehe. |
19:33 | tonys | <pianohacker> I'm still getting that default page |
19:34 | pianohacker | tonys: run sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
19:35 | tonys | Just did that and now it works.... I must be brain fryed but thank you so much pianohacker |
19:37 | pianohacker | tonys: glad to hear! |
19:38 | tonys | Thank you again |
19:39 | pianohacker | happy to help, have a nice day :) |
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20:16 | tonys | I made a mistake and deleted all the patron files in Koha and it got rid of all my user and admin logins ... anyone know what I need to do to get at least the default back in place |
20:17 | bag | @seen cait |
20:17 | huginn` | bag: cait was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 17 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <cait> have a nice weekend #koha |
20:17 | bag | ah you too cait |
20:18 | drojf | tonys: the database user should still be there (info in koha-conf.xml), or you could just remove the instance and recreate it |
20:19 | tonys | okay let me check the file first |
20:23 | drofj>> don't see to be able to find the file you recommended | |
20:25 | drojf | tonys: assuming you are on an installation with debian packages and your instance is called Library (from what you posted before), it would be in /etc/koha/sites/Library/koha-conf.xml |
20:26 | tonys | drojf: thank you I found it so let me take a look and see if the user is stil there. |
20:28 | mtompset | Greetings, drojf bag. |
20:28 | drojf | hi mtompset |
20:29 | bag | heya mtompset |
20:29 | wahanui | well, mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
20:29 | tonys | drojf: thank you for the sucessful help.. everything works again... |
20:29 | mtompset | Strangely, true again. Silly reports due in a week. |
20:29 | drojf | tonys: great |
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20:39 | drojf | a multitude of mtompsets |
20:48 | pianohacker | @seen ashimema |
20:48 | huginn` | pianohacker: ashimema was last seen in #koha 1 week, 4 days, 13 hours, 5 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <ashimema> morning |
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21:20 | pianohacker | @later tell cait well, later than wanted, but I posted a sandbox for bug 11559 |
21:20 | huginn` | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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21:27 | tcohen | hi there |
21:28 | pianohacker | tcohen: RE: your question earlier (if it's still relevant), C4::Context->marcfromkohafield ? |
21:28 | also hi :) | |
21:30 | tcohen | hi pianohacker |
21:30 | i was giving TestBuilder my frst real-life usage | |
21:31 | I have to say I like it :-D | |
21:31 | makes writing integration tests pretty simple | |
21:31 | pianohacker | oh really? What are you working on? |
21:31 | tcohen | without any assumptions on the db data |
21:32 | i'm writing a regression test for bug 14598 | |
21:32 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14598 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , itemtype is not set on statistics by C4::Circulation::AddReturn |
21:32 | tcohen | it is trivial to solve (have a patch already) |
21:32 | but building the test wasn't | |
21:32 | can i show u? | |
21:32 | mtompset | tcohen and pianohacker: Did you see my koha-devel email question? :) |
21:32 | pianohacker | absolutely, definitely interested |
21:33 | mtompset: yup, but jcamins is probably the only person likely to be helpful :) | |
21:33 | tcohen | mtompset: I answered, even |
21:33 | pianohacker | oh, nvm |
21:33 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "pianohacker: TestBuilder goodness" (49 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/16 |
21:34 | tcohen | create a couple random itypes, a random branch, a random borrower |
21:34 | single line thing | |
21:34 | pianohacker | niiiiice! |
21:34 | who made that again? | |
21:34 | tcohen | and I also create random items |
21:35 | it was an intern from biblibre | |
21:35 | pianohacker | ah, right |
21:35 | mtompset | Actually, if you changed the line I suggested, tcohen, then you could set the params in a $self->params in the initialize routine without having to make the change you did. |
21:35 | tcohen | Yohann Dafour |
21:36 | pianohacker | does it depend on a wrapping $dbh->{AutoCommit} = 0 / $dbh->rollback? |
21:36 | tcohen | yes, because it fills all foreign constrains with random data :-D |
21:36 | :-D | |
21:36 | pianohacker | ah, okay :) |
21:36 | that's reasonable, it makes the generation of test data a lot better | |
21:37 | tcohen | yeah, and we don't test on other tests' side-effects |
21:37 | pianohacker | right... |
21:37 | tcohen | which is causing me a lot of headaches |
21:37 | i told jenkins to run the tests randomly | |
21:37 | prove -s | |
21:37 | and they of course, fail randomly | |
21:37 | pianohacker | ... joy |
21:38 | why is that? I thought the only dependency for most of the tests was a full installation of the sample data? | |
21:38 | tcohen | i think that's the aim |
21:39 | but there must have been situations in which we inadvertedly passed tests only because they were run after another test | |
21:39 | pianohacker | tcohen: and, just to be clear, this is reordering the .t files, not the tests within them, correct? |
21:39 | tcohen | exactly, only teh .t files |
21:39 | pianohacker | makes sense |
21:40 | mtompset | We have failures when the .t order is randomized?! |
21:40 | pianohacker | *shiver* that's terrifying |
21:40 | (the failure, not the reordering) | |
21:40 | tcohen | we should build test cases inside subtests so there aren't unnecesary side effects inside the same .t |
21:40 | mtompset: yes | |
21:40 | that's why jenkins is constantly failing in master | |
21:41 | mtompset | I think a vulgar explicative is in order: holy excrement! |
21:41 | tcohen | i'm tempted to just remove the shuffle option switch |
21:41 | pianohacker | cait's gonna be thrilled to hear about that... |
21:41 | tcohen | because once tests fail for more than a week |
21:41 | the devs stop bothering to take a look at the regressions they introduce | |
21:41 | pianohacker | yeah |
21:42 | that's how the test suite used to be, and nobody paid any attention to it | |
21:42 | mtompset | I stop looking after the 3rd email. :) |
21:42 | tcohen | mtompset: serial jenkins breaker |
21:42 | :-P | |
21:42 | mtompset | I check, and it is usually someone else. |
21:42 | I may have been me once. | |
21:42 | tcohen | nah, you are too obsessive, was just a joke |
21:43 | mtompset | speaking of obsessive. :) |
21:43 | * tcohen | clarifies it was a cumpliment |
21:43 | mtompset | Can I list you some bug numbers that have passed QA? :) |
21:45 | 12357 | |
21:45 | 13948 | |
21:46 | 14240 | |
21:46 | 14487 | |
21:46 | 6874 | |
21:46 | Not all are mine, but I'd like to shrink the number of branches I have. :) | |
21:46 | tcohen | 6874 is on hold |
21:47 | marcelr is revising it | |
21:48 | mtompset | I thought he was revising it in other bugs. |
21:48 | Though, I think there may be an issue with what is currently there. | |
21:49 | I had a pain rebasing it into my 3.20.x hack branch. | |
21:50 | tcohen | therest are ok |
21:50 | today i pushed 11 i think | |
21:50 | will cover all of them | |
21:51 | there were bugfixes which have a bit higher priority | |
21:51 | mtompset | I understand. :) |
21:52 | tcohen | rda patches are on my working branch already |
21:52 | mtompset | If you need a break from those intense ones. :) |
21:53 | pianohacker | bye all, be back tonight |
21:56 | tcohen | mtompset: i take breaks :) |
21:58 | ribasushi: who invented dbix syntax? | |
22:00 | mtompset: there are some easy to tset on your list | |
22:01 | mtompset | 190?! |
22:01 | Did I blink?! | |
22:02 | tcohen | 190? |
22:06 | mtompset | 190 needs sign off. |
22:07 | * tcohen | tries to remember if there's anyone from him |
22:10 | stares with suspicious face | |
22:31 | mtompset | stares at whom and where? |
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