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00:39 | mtj | hey #koha, newbie cache Q here... |
00:39 | what might be the expected behaviour for caching, if say... memcached was accidentally not running, on a koha thats configed to use memcache | |
00:40 | ie: how does the various caching fallback code work | |
00:41 | if memcache is not available, koha::cache switches to another fallback caching method? | |
00:44 | eythian | mtj: it just doesn't use memcache |
00:44 | it might fall back to short-term in-process caching | |
00:44 | I think it's documented in Koha::Cache | |
00:48 | mtj | ta eythian, that makes sense |
00:50 | my holidays caching seems to be working well, with memcached off even | |
00:51 | eythian | cool |
00:51 | I suspect that it's fast enough now that the caching makes little difference. | |
00:53 | mtj | yeah, i think you are right |
00:54 | i need to doublecheck... but this holidays thing is faster with memcached off | |
00:55 | eythian | that can happen |
00:55 | but, do a few thousand runs and average that | |
00:57 | jcamins | ... and remember that caching is about scaling and not speed most of the time |
01:05 | mtj | aah, after checking... using memcached is a tiny bit faster |
01:05 | eythian | jcamins makes an excellent point |
01:06 | to be honest, unless it was making a real slowdown, I'd leave caching in place until proven otherwise. | |
01:07 | mtj | hmm, i def. have no intention of removing caching ... anywhere |
01:08 | and yes, great point jcamins | |
01:29 | wizzyrea | I wonder why the installer needs a "finish button" and then a redirect screen. Seems superfluous. |
01:30 | "mouth hole" | |
01:31 | this makes me giggle. | |
01:31 | eythian | pie socket! jeez! |
01:32 | wizzyrea: well, tell jen, maybe she'll fix it for us (and yeah, it's a little silly) | |
01:32 | wizzyrea | mm there are other things that require attention |
01:33 | and that's not technically OPAC | |
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02:28 | eythian | not sure if it'll ever be useful, but every time you update a record in elasticsearch, a counter gets incremented: "_version" : 2, |
02:28 | (you can't ask for version 1 though, it doesn't work like that.) | |
02:33 | also, automatic updating and deleting of records in ES when they're changed in koha now works :D | |
02:33 | rangi | nice! |
02:44 | wizzyrea | eythian++ |
02:44 | it doesn't keep the revisions though? | |
02:44 | eythian | it doesn't |
02:44 | it's not really its job | |
02:44 | wizzyrea | koha does, I guess. |
02:45 | eythian | yeah |
02:45 | wizzyrea | I really wish we could make that more useful. |
02:45 | the cataloguing log. | |
02:45 | like, instead of keeping the whole record | |
02:45 | just keep the diff. | |
02:46 | eythian | hmm |
02:46 | that can get complicated | |
02:46 | to go back to an arbitrary point, you have to play back all the inverse diffs | |
02:47 | having a diff tool would probably be better | |
02:52 | wizzyrea | true |
02:52 | a tool would be nice though. | |
02:52 | like wikipedia. | |
02:52 | "compare revisions" | |
03:17 | rangi | http://apps.getpebble.com/en_U[…]60dc1ceb35f000003 |
03:18 | wizzyrea | oooooo |
03:19 | a+ nice | |
03:42 | cdickinson | rangi: your dedication is inspiring |
04:09 | mtj | amazing rangi :) |
04:09 | i finally submitted my fix for the slow holidays - bug 14522 | |
04:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14522 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Cache for accessing single_holidays() |
04:10 | mtj | ..a nice way to end a friday arvo |
04:14 | there is one weird thing i have yet to click too, tho.. | |
04:15 | the number of calls to single_holidays() are quite different | |
04:16 | before is 739, after is 368 | |
04:20 | aaah, i see :) | |
04:20 | http://x1.kohaaloha.com/i/nyt-[…]485-line.html#237 | |
04:21 | ..739 is the number of call made in that {..} block | |
04:21 | 73962.3s if ( $self->single_holidays->contains($localdt) ) { | |
04:21 | # spent 55.1s making 368 calls to DateTime::Set::contains, avg 150ms/call | |
04:21 | # spent 7.27s making 368 calls to Koha::Calendar::single_holidays, avg 19.7ms/call | |
04:21 | # spent 16µs making 2 calls to DBI::common::DESTROY, avg 8µs/call | |
04:21 | # spent 4µs making 1 call to DBD::_mem::common::DESTROY | |
04:23 | whew, all good | |
04:26 | damn, those pebbles look fun | |
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06:19 | drojf | morning |
06:19 | * magnuse | waves |
06:19 | magnuse | moin drojf |
06:20 | drojf | hei magnuse |
06:21 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
06:21 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
06:21 | * cait | wavs |
06:21 | drojf | hi cait |
06:22 | looks like it is getting hot again | |
06:23 | to the lake for a swim before work… yay or nay? | |
06:24 | cait | nay i am afraid |
06:24 | some coworkers go during lunch break | |
06:25 | drojf | if i had a waterproof notebook i could work there… on a rubber boat |
06:26 | that would be the best office ever | |
06:26 | cait | lol |
06:41 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
06:42 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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06:43 | * magnuse | thinks people should stop complaining about the heat and book holidays in northern norway ;-) |
06:44 | magnuse | bonjour sophie_m |
06:44 | cait | :) |
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06:48 | reiveune | hello |
06:48 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
06:51 | magnuse | bonojur reiveune |
06:52 | reiveune | salut magnuse |
06:53 | sophie_m | hello magnuse |
06:53 | hi #koha | |
06:54 | magnuse: what a wonderful idea (about holidays) :) | |
06:57 | magnuse | do a google image search for "lofoten", for example :-) |
06:57 | or "northern norway beach" | |
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07:00 | fridolin | hie |
07:01 | magnuse | bonjour fridolin & lari |
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07:07 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
07:07 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 22.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
07:07 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:07 | wahanui | que tal, gaetan_B |
07:07 | drojf | magnuse: not complaining :) but i would love a some northern norway too |
07:08 | we should have an arctic kohacon | |
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07:22 | magnuse | drojf: oh yes, definitely! |
07:22 | lofoten would be an awesome place for it | |
07:23 | except noone could afford to come... | |
07:23 | midnight sun hackfest | |
07:25 | drojf | that would be awesome |
07:26 | magnuse | :-) |
07:26 | in a year or two i might have my head sufficiently above water to organize something like that... | |
07:27 | drojf | yay \o/ |
07:28 | i would be willing to help :) if i won't go crazy over organizing the berlin hackfest :D | |
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07:29 | drojf | we should have one with midnight sun and one with aurora borealis ;) |
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07:37 | magnuse | drojf: let's talk after berlin :-) |
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07:39 | magnuse | wb cait |
07:39 | cait | wb magnuse |
07:42 | @wunder Konstanz | |
07:42 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.3°C (9:42 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
07:42 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
07:42 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 23.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
07:42 | drojf | you win ;) |
07:42 | cait | hmpf |
07:43 | drojf | is the translation server broken or is it just me? |
07:43 | does not open | |
07:43 | cait | just you |
07:43 | currently looking for a string there | |
07:44 | drojf | it loaded now, but it took > 1 minute |
07:44 | probably it had to find your string before serving me a page :P | |
07:45 | cait | hm now it showed me a server error - you broke it |
07:45 | drojf | i downloaded the help file. i will translate it offline i guess |
07:45 | cait | marc has been doing some work too |
07:45 | maybe email him if you want to upload later | |
07:45 | drojf | i thought he is on holiday |
07:46 | cait | it just showed mverron when i looked |
07:46 | for the last to edit | |
07:46 | i can't find the string | |
07:46 | it's "Titel" | |
07:46 | used in x records | |
07:46 | *gah* | |
07:46 | drojf | that's not now vacation works ^^ |
07:46 | how | |
07:46 | cait | don't tell me, innocent this time |
07:48 | drojf | i have poedit. is there something better i should be using? |
07:56 | i take that as a no ;) | |
07:57 | cait | in don't know of something better |
07:57 | drojf: can you do me a favour and use poedit to find my string? | |
07:58 | it's in opac-authoritiesdetail and should just be "Titel" | |
07:58 | drojf | where? |
07:58 | cait | but i think we can't translate it better probably :( |
07:58 | verwendet in 4 titel | |
07:58 | plural singular problem | |
07:58 | and the 4 is linked so it breaks the string | |
08:02 | drojf | i did not find it for that file Oo |
08:02 | cait | weird |
08:03 | i have filed bug 14556 | |
08:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14556 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve translatability of strings including links |
08:03 | drojf | there is one for opac-authoritiessearchresultlist |
08:04 | opac-auth-detail.tt ? | |
08:04 | cait | hm maybe? |
08:04 | wahanui | maybe is a momentaneous error |
08:04 | cait | some weird magic |
08:04 | drojf | also opac-auth-MARC-detail |
08:05 | MARCdetail even. that should be it then i guess | |
08:05 | cait | hm don't think it is |
08:05 | looking at the 'normal' view | |
08:06 | drojf | so we have opac-auth-detail and opac-authoritiesdetail? that would be funny |
08:06 | or is auth authentication here? | |
08:07 | cait | i donT want to know |
08:07 | but maybe | |
08:07 | for the first | |
08:14 | magnuse | drojf, cait: i use Lokalize to good effect (on Ubuntu) |
08:15 | drojf | oh sorry, typo. there is NONE for opac-authoritiessearchresultlist :) |
08:15 | cait | |
08:15 | magnuse: thanks, will have a look | |
08:16 | magnuse | it sometimes makes some good suggestions |
08:16 | unlike poedit, it does not warn very clearly about mismatched %s'es | |
08:17 | drojf | i like openweathermap.org, but it switched to "very heavy rain" again for berlin. the same happened the last time it was hot :/ |
08:18 | looks like it does not expect temperatures above 25° ;) | |
08:23 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
08:23 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.5°C (10:23 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
08:23 | cait | feels warmer i can tell you |
08:24 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
08:24 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 25.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
08:24 | drojf | coming closer ;) |
08:24 | but feels cool. hehe | |
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08:34 | cait | hmpf |
08:34 | ;) | |
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08:41 | xekhz | hello ppl |
08:41 | good day | |
08:46 | magnuse | hi xekhz |
08:46 | @wunder boo | |
08:46 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
08:48 | xekhz | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14527 |
08:48 | huginn` | 04Bug 14527: normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , zebra error 114 when searching for items added before or after a specific date |
08:48 | xekhz | in the koha demos in unimarc always fails but in marc21 always suceed |
09:22 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
09:22 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 27.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
09:25 | drojf | @wunder konstanz |
09:25 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.7°C (11:25 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
09:25 | drojf | ha |
09:25 | :D | |
09:25 | * drojf | wins |
09:26 | cait | lol |
09:47 | drojf | later #koha |
10:05 | cait | guess he was serious about the lake :) |
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10:29 | xekhz | can anyone help me with this http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14527 |
10:29 | huginn` | 04Bug 14527: normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , zebra error 114 when searching for items added before or after a specific date |
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11:12 | magnuse | wow, on current master i get this ugly error after a failed login: Template process failed: file error - parse error - /home/magnus/scripts/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/nb-NO/modules/opac-auth.tt line 58: unexpected end of input at /home/magnus/scripts/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 121. |
11:12 | anyone else seeing that? | |
11:13 | to test: log in to the opac with a wrong combo of username/password | |
11:17 | gah, only happens with nb-NO, not en | |
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11:54 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
11:54 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 29.8°C (1:54 PM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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12:25 | magnuse | flagsrequired => { borrow => 1 }, |
12:26 | what decides if a user has the borrow flag? | |
12:27 | i have a user i imported with the svc extension added by eythian in bug 13607, but that user is denied access to some of the tabs in the opac, after logging in | |
12:27 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13607 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Patron management API |
12:28 | magnuse | specifically yhe ones that have flagsrequired => { borrow => 1 }, as far as i can tell |
12:29 | cait | magnuse: hm we removed it now i thought |
12:29 | the whole permission | |
12:29 | maybe there is some overlap with eythian's api patch - the perm shouldn't exist any longer | |
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12:31 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
12:31 | @seen khall | |
12:31 | huginn` | mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 6 days, 19 hours, 52 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <khall> I didn't mean to pqa that one |
12:31 | khall | yo |
12:31 | mtompset | It's Friday. ;) |
12:31 | bug 10276 | |
12:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , Extend IndependentBranches to support groups of libraries |
12:31 | magnuse | cait: ah hah |
12:32 | mtompset | Greetings, khall magnuse. |
12:33 | khall | thanks for the reminder mtompset! |
12:33 | good mornin all!~ | |
12:33 | magnuse | hiya mtompset and khall |
12:33 | * cait | waves |
12:34 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. :) |
12:34 | And khall, regarding bug 9021... | |
12:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9021 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add SMS via email as an alternative to SMS services via SMS::Send drivers |
12:34 | * cait | declares it to be too hot to think |
12:34 | magnuse | cait: actually, it's the ill code from ptfse that is a bit behind master, and that i am trying to build on |
12:35 | mtompset | Some of them have a 'Cancel' button, which acts like a 'Back'. |
12:35 | khall | do go on |
12:35 | mtompset | (or link) |
12:35 | khall | mtompset: can you point me to one? That way I can replicate the style |
12:36 | mtompset | Let me see again... |
12:36 | * mtompset | goes looking. |
12:43 | mtompset | library and groups, item types, AV new category, AV new AV, Patron attribute types, (strangely) library transfer limits, cities and towns, ... - cancel link. |
12:44 | I could keep going, but the whole cancel link idea seems there. | |
12:57 | Have to run. | |
12:57 | Have a great day, #koha. | |
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13:34 | kivilahtio | have a great weekend #koha! |
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14:40 | fridolin | sse u |
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15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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15:30 | barton | hey, I just had a brainstorm ... one of the things that slows down support and development on Koha is creating test plans... I wonder if there's something that we could do to make that process easier... a 'record' button or something. |
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15:49 | dani | good morning! |
15:49 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
15:50 | dani | I have a general question if someone can answer concerning Bugzilla and how open source/Koha community works |
15:52 | rangi can you answer a question about Bugzilla procedure? | |
15:52 | pianohacker | dani: it's currently pretty early saturday for him, but we can take a shot at your question :) |
15:53 | dani | I talked with a gentleman at a conference yesterday who claims he was denied an Bugzilla account to create bugs, saying he was not authorized to report bugs. Are there such restrictions? |
15:54 | pianohacker | dani: My very off-the-cuff the guess is that he may have been misled by the security bugs stuff: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]la3/enter_bug.cgi |
15:54 | besides that, I can't think of anything | |
15:55 | dani | I told him that I didn't know of any restrictions but I could check. |
15:55 | that is possible pianohacker | |
16:09 | gaetan_B | bye |
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17:27 | drojf | evening |
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18:14 | * druthb | waves to talljoy |
18:14 | talljoy | hiya druthb!!! |
18:14 | druthb | :) |
18:15 | How'd you like that "Tall Girl Problems" comic? | |
18:15 | pianohacker | druthb! |
18:15 | hallo | |
18:15 | druthb | pianohacker! |
18:15 | wahanui | I HATE ALMOST EVERYTHING |
18:15 | druthb | wahanui: druthb? |
18:15 | wahanui | She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know? |
18:15 | druthb | mhm. |
18:18 | pianohacker | druthb: blame eythian for that one... |
18:19 | druthb | What, the "I HATE…" ? |
18:19 | pianohacker | yeah |
18:19 | kiwi smartass | |
18:19 | * druthb | knows who's to blame for the "more trouble than she's worth." |
18:19 | pianohacker | heh |
18:19 | druthb | lol… |
18:19 | pianohacker | druthb: I'm not sure how you can be so confident that that was any particular person ;) |
18:20 | druthb | wahanui: eythian is a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says. |
18:20 | wahanui | ...but eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.|an expert bot trainer|<reply>go back to bed, eythian|Time's Person of the Year for 2006.... |
18:20 | druthb | wahanui: eythian is also a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says. |
18:20 | wahanui | okay, druthb. |
18:20 | druthb | lol |
18:20 | drojf | eythian? |
18:20 | wahanui | eythian is a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says. |
18:20 | pianohacker | excellent |
18:21 | drojf | must be true if a bot says it |
18:21 | * pianohacker | nods sagely |
18:21 | druthb | pianohacker: "the rest is left as an exercise for the student." Think about it a moment, and you'll figure out how I know who did that one. |
18:21 | pianohacker | heh |
18:21 | druthb | There are two possible answers, and "she read the log" is not the one I used. |
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18:28 | wnickc | why does borrower_message_transport_preferences exist? |
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19:08 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
19:08 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 29.0°C (8:50 PM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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19:55 | drojf | mango ice cream and translating koha, it's a winning combination |
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22:08 | drojf | @later tell cait ist verschmelzen (statt zusammenführen) von dir, oder ein swissism? |
22:08 | huginn` | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
22:11 | drojf | aaand team german wins again :P |
22:19 | pianohacker | noooo, not the zusammenführen! |
22:20 | sil vous plait por favor not the zusammenführen | |
22:26 | drojf | lol |
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