IRC log for #koha, 2015-07-17

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00:39 mtj hey #koha, newbie cache Q here...
00:39 what might be the expected behaviour for caching, if say... memcached was accidentally not running, on a koha thats configed to use memcache
00:40 ie: how does the various caching fallback code work
00:41 if memcache is not available, koha::cache switches to another fallback caching method?
00:44 eythian mtj: it just doesn't use memcache
00:44 it might fall back to short-term in-process caching
00:44 I think it's documented in Koha::Cache
00:48 mtj ta eythian, that makes sense
00:50 my holidays caching seems to be working well, with memcached off even
00:51 eythian cool
00:51 I suspect that it's fast enough now that the caching makes little difference.
00:53 mtj yeah, i think you are right
00:54 i need to doublecheck... but this holidays thing is faster with memcached off
00:55 eythian that can happen
00:55 but, do a few thousand runs and average that
00:57 jcamins ... and remember that caching is about scaling and not speed most of the time
01:05 mtj aah, after checking... using memcached is a tiny bit faster
01:05 eythian jcamins makes an excellent point
01:06 to be honest, unless it was making a real slowdown, I'd leave caching in place until proven otherwise.
01:07 mtj hmm, i def. have no intention of removing caching ... anywhere
01:08 and yes, great point jcamins
01:29 wizzyrea I wonder why the installer needs a "finish button" and then a redirect screen. Seems superfluous.
01:30 "mouth hole"
01:31 this makes me giggle.
01:31 eythian pie socket! jeez!
01:32 wizzyrea: well, tell jen, maybe she'll fix it for us (and yeah, it's a little silly)
01:32 wizzyrea mm there are other things that require attention
01:33 and that's not technically OPAC
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02:28 eythian not sure if it'll ever be useful, but every time you update a record in elasticsearch, a counter gets incremented:   "_version" : 2,
02:28 (you can't ask for version 1 though, it doesn't work like that.)
02:33 also, automatic updating and deleting of records in ES when they're changed in koha now works :D
02:33 rangi nice!
02:44 wizzyrea eythian++
02:44 it doesn't keep the revisions though?
02:44 eythian it doesn't
02:44 it's not really its job
02:44 wizzyrea koha does, I guess.
02:45 eythian yeah
02:45 wizzyrea I really wish we could make that more useful.
02:45 the cataloguing log.
02:45 like, instead of keeping the whole record
02:45 just keep the diff.
02:46 eythian hmm
02:46 that can get complicated
02:46 to go back to an arbitrary point, you have to play back all the inverse diffs
02:47 having a diff tool would probably be better
02:52 wizzyrea true
02:52 a tool would be nice though.
02:52 like wikipedia.
02:52 "compare revisions"
03:17 rangi http://apps.getpebble.com/en_U[…]60dc1ceb35f000003
03:18 wizzyrea oooooo
03:19 a+ nice
03:42 cdickinson rangi: your dedication is inspiring
04:09 mtj amazing rangi :)
04:09 i finally submitted my fix for the slow holidays - bug 14522
04:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14522 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Cache for accessing single_holidays()
04:10 mtj ..a nice way to end a friday arvo
04:14 there is one weird thing i have yet to click too, tho..
04:15 the number of calls to single_holidays() are quite different
04:16 before is 739, after is 368
04:20 aaah, i see :)
04:20 http://x1.kohaaloha.com/i/nyt-[…]485-line.html#237
04:21 ..739 is the number of call made in that {..} block
04:21 73962.3s    if ( $self->single_holidays->contains($localdt) ) {
04:21 # spent  55.1s making 368 calls to DateTime::Set::contains, avg 150ms/call
04:21 # spent  7.27s making 368 calls to Koha::Calendar::single_holidays, avg 19.7ms/call
04:21 # spent    16µs making   2 calls to DBI::common::DESTROY, avg 8µs/call
04:21 # spent     4µs making   1 call to DBD::_mem::common::DESTROY
04:23 whew, all good
04:26 damn, those pebbles look fun
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06:19 drojf morning
06:19 * magnuse waves
06:19 magnuse moin drojf
06:20 drojf hei magnuse
06:21 @wunder berlin, germany
06:21 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:21 * cait wavs
06:21 drojf hi cait
06:22 looks like it is getting hot again
06:23 to the lake for a swim before work… yay or nay?
06:24 cait nay i am afraid
06:24 some coworkers go during lunch break
06:25 drojf if i had a waterproof notebook i could work there… on a rubber boat
06:26 that would be the best office ever
06:26 cait lol
06:41 magnuse @wunder boo
06:42 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
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06:43 * magnuse thinks people should stop complaining about the heat and book holidays in northern norway ;-)
06:44 magnuse bonjour sophie_m
06:44 cait :)
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06:48 reiveune hello
06:48 wahanui privet, reiveune
06:51 magnuse bonojur reiveune
06:52 reiveune salut magnuse
06:53 sophie_m hello magnuse
06:53 hi #koha
06:54 magnuse: what a wonderful idea (about holidays) :)
06:57 magnuse do a google image search for "lofoten", for example :-)
06:57 or "northern norway beach"
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07:00 fridolin hie
07:01 magnuse bonjour fridolin & lari
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07:07 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:07 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 22.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
07:07 gaetan_B hello
07:07 wahanui que tal, gaetan_B
07:07 drojf magnuse: not complaining :) but i would love a some northern norway too
07:08 we should have an arctic kohacon
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07:22 magnuse drojf: oh yes, definitely!
07:22 lofoten would be an awesome place for it
07:23 except noone could afford to come...
07:23 midnight sun hackfest
07:25 drojf that would be awesome
07:26 magnuse :-)
07:26 in a year or two i might have my head sufficiently above water to organize something like that...
07:27 drojf yay \o/
07:28 i would be willing to help :) if i won't go crazy over organizing the berlin hackfest :D
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07:29 drojf we should have one with midnight sun and one with aurora borealis ;)
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07:37 magnuse drojf: let's talk after berlin :-)
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07:39 magnuse wb cait
07:39 cait wb magnuse
07:42 @wunder Konstanz
07:42 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.3°C (9:42 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:42 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:42 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 23.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
07:42 drojf you win ;)
07:42 cait hmpf
07:43 drojf is the translation server broken or is it just me?
07:43 does not open
07:43 cait just you
07:43 currently looking for a string there
07:44 drojf it loaded now, but it took > 1 minute
07:44 probably it had to find your string before serving me a page  :P
07:45 cait hm now it showed me a server error - you broke it
07:45 drojf i downloaded the help file. i will translate it offline i guess
07:45 cait marc has been doing some work too
07:45 maybe email him if you want to upload later
07:45 drojf i thought he is on holiday
07:46 cait it just showed mverron when i looked
07:46 for the last to edit
07:46 i can't find the string
07:46 it's "Titel"
07:46 used in x records
07:46 *gah*
07:46 drojf that's not now vacation works ^^
07:46 how
07:46 cait don't tell me, innocent this time
07:48 drojf i have poedit. is there something better i should be using?
07:56 i take that as a no ;)
07:57 cait in don't know of something better
07:57 drojf: can you do me a favour and use poedit to find my string?
07:58 it's in opac-authoritiesdetail and should just be "Titel"
07:58 drojf where?
07:58 cait but i think we can't translate it better probably :(
07:58 verwendet in 4 titel
07:58 plural singular problem
07:58 and the 4 is linked so it breaks the string
08:02 drojf i did not find it for that file Oo
08:02 cait weird
08:03 i have filed bug 14556
08:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14556 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve translatability of strings including links
08:03 drojf there is one for opac-authoritiessearchresultlist
08:04 opac-auth-detail.tt ?
08:04 cait hm maybe?
08:04 wahanui maybe is a momentaneous error
08:04 cait some weird magic
08:04 drojf also opac-auth-MARC-detail
08:05 MARCdetail even. that should be it then i guess
08:05 cait hm don't think it is
08:05 looking at the 'normal' view
08:06 drojf so we have opac-auth-detail and opac-authoritiesdetail? that would be funny
08:06 or is auth authentication here?
08:07 cait i donT want to know
08:07 but maybe
08:07 for the first
08:14 magnuse drojf, cait: i use Lokalize to good effect (on Ubuntu)
08:15 drojf oh sorry, typo. there is NONE for opac-authoritiessearchresultlist :)
08:15 cait
08:15 magnuse: thanks, will have a look
08:16 magnuse it sometimes makes some good suggestions
08:16 unlike poedit, it does not warn very clearly about mismatched %s'es
08:17 drojf i like openweathermap.org, but it switched to "very heavy rain" again for berlin. the same happened the last time it was hot :/
08:18 looks like it does not expect temperatures above 25° ;)
08:23 cait @wunder Konstanz
08:23 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.5°C (10:23 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
08:23 cait feels warmer i can tell you
08:24 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:24 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 25.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
08:24 drojf coming closer ;)
08:24 but feels cool. hehe
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08:34 cait hmpf
08:34 ;)
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08:41 xekhz hello ppl
08:41 good day
08:46 magnuse hi xekhz
08:46 @wunder boo
08:46 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
08:48 xekhz http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14527
08:48 huginn` 04Bug 14527: normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , zebra error 114 when searching for items added before or after a specific date
08:48 xekhz in the koha demos in unimarc always fails but in marc21 always suceed
09:22 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
09:22 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 27.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
09:25 drojf @wunder konstanz
09:25 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.7°C (11:25 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
09:25 drojf ha
09:25 :D
09:25 * drojf wins
09:26 cait lol
09:47 drojf later #koha
10:05 cait guess he was serious about the lake :)
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10:29 xekhz can anyone help me with this http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14527
10:29 huginn` 04Bug 14527: normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , zebra error 114 when searching for items added before or after a specific date
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11:12 magnuse wow, on current master i get this ugly error after a failed login: Template process failed: file error - parse error - /home/magnus/scripts/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opa​c-tmpl/bootstrap/nb-NO/modules/opac-auth.tt line 58: unexpected end of input at /home/magnus/scripts/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 121.
11:12 anyone else seeing that?
11:13 to test: log in to the opac with a wrong combo of username/password
11:17 gah, only happens with nb-NO, not en
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11:54 cait @wunder Konstanz
11:54 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 29.8°C (1:54 PM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
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12:25 magnuse flagsrequired   => { borrow => 1 },
12:26 what decides if a user has the borrow flag?
12:27 i have a user i imported with the svc extension added by eythian in bug 13607, but that user is denied access to some of the tabs in the opac, after logging in
12:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13607 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Patron management API
12:28 magnuse specifically yhe ones that have flagsrequired   => { borrow => 1 }, as far as i can tell
12:29 cait magnuse: hm we removed it now i thought
12:29 the whole permission
12:29 maybe there is some overlap with eythian's api patch - the perm shouldn't exist any longer
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12:31 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
12:31 @seen khall
12:31 huginn` mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 6 days, 19 hours, 52 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <khall> I didn't mean to pqa that one
12:31 khall yo
12:31 mtompset It's Friday. ;)
12:31 bug 10276
12:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , Extend IndependentBranches to support groups of libraries
12:31 magnuse cait: ah hah
12:32 mtompset Greetings, khall magnuse.
12:33 khall thanks for the reminder mtompset!
12:33 good mornin all!~
12:33 magnuse hiya mtompset and khall
12:33 * cait waves
12:34 mtompset Greetings, cait. :)
12:34 And khall, regarding bug 9021...
12:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9021 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add SMS via email as an alternative to SMS services via SMS::Send drivers
12:34 * cait declares it to be too hot to think
12:34 magnuse cait: actually, it's the ill code from ptfse that is a bit behind master, and that i am trying to build on
12:35 mtompset Some of them have a 'Cancel' button, which acts like a 'Back'.
12:35 khall do go on
12:35 mtompset (or link)
12:35 khall mtompset: can you point me to one? That way I can replicate the style
12:36 mtompset Let me see again...
12:36 * mtompset goes looking.
12:43 mtompset library and groups, item types, AV new category, AV new AV, Patron attribute types, (strangely) library transfer limits, cities and towns, ... - cancel link.
12:44 I could keep going, but the whole cancel link idea seems there.
12:57 Have to run.
12:57 Have a great day, #koha.
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13:34 kivilahtio have a great weekend #koha!
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14:40 fridolin sse u
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15:01 reiveune bye
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15:30 barton hey, I just had a brainstorm ... one of the things that slows down support and development on Koha is creating test plans... I wonder if there's something that we could do to make that process easier... a 'record' button or something.
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15:49 dani good morning!
15:49 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one
15:50 dani I have a general question if someone can answer concerning Bugzilla and how open source/Koha community works
15:52 rangi can you answer a question about Bugzilla procedure?
15:52 pianohacker dani: it's currently pretty early saturday for him, but we can take a shot at your question :)
15:53 dani I talked with a gentleman at a conference yesterday who claims he was denied an Bugzilla account to create bugs, saying he was not authorized to report bugs.  Are there such restrictions?
15:54 pianohacker dani: My very off-the-cuff the guess is that he may have been misled by the security bugs stuff: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]la3/enter_bug.cgi
15:54 besides that, I can't think of anything
15:55 dani I told him that I didn't know of any restrictions but I could check.
15:55 that is possible pianohacker
16:09 gaetan_B bye
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17:27 drojf evening
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18:14 * druthb waves to talljoy
18:14 talljoy hiya druthb!!!
18:14 druthb :)
18:15 How'd you like that "Tall Girl Problems" comic?
18:15 pianohacker druthb!
18:15 hallo
18:15 druthb pianohacker!
18:15 wahanui I HATE ALMOST EVERYTHING
18:15 druthb wahanui:  druthb?
18:15 wahanui She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know?
18:15 druthb mhm.
18:18 pianohacker druthb: blame eythian for that one...
18:19 druthb What, the "I HATE…" ?
18:19 pianohacker yeah
18:19 kiwi smartass
18:19 * druthb knows who's to blame for the "more trouble than she's worth."
18:19 pianohacker heh
18:19 druthb lol…
18:19 pianohacker druthb: I'm not sure how you can be so confident that that was any particular person ;)
18:20 druthb wahanui: eythian is a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says.
18:20 wahanui ...but eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.|an expert bot trainer|<reply>go back to bed, eythian|Time's Person of the Year for 2006....
18:20 druthb wahanui: eythian is also a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says.
18:20 wahanui okay, druthb.
18:20 druthb lol
18:20 drojf eythian?
18:20 wahanui eythian is a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says.
18:20 pianohacker excellent
18:21 drojf must be true if a bot says it
18:21 * pianohacker nods sagely
18:21 druthb pianohacker: "the rest is left as an exercise for the student."  Think about it a moment, and you'll figure out how I know who did that one.
18:21 pianohacker heh
18:21 druthb There are two possible answers, and "she read the log" is not the one I used.
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18:28 wnickc why does borrower_message_transport_preferences exist?
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19:08 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
19:08 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 29.0°C (8:50 PM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
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19:55 drojf mango ice cream and translating koha, it's a winning combination
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22:08 drojf @later tell cait ist verschmelzen (statt zusammenführen) von dir, oder ein swissism?
22:08 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded.
22:11 drojf aaand team german wins again :P
22:19 pianohacker noooo, not the zusammenführen!
22:20 sil vous plait por favor not the zusammenführen
22:26 drojf lol
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