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| 02:54 | eythian | > State: The selected country doesn't require 'state' field <-- well that's unusual, but pleasant. |
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| 03:06 | AmitG | hi all |
| 03:07 | heya rangi | |
| 03:26 | jcamins | rangi: are there any CI tools other than Jenkins that you like? |
| 03:26 | Actually, better question: | |
| 03:26 | rangi: are there any CI tools that you like? | |
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| 05:25 | mtj | hey #koha, i need someone to give me a brainslap |
| 05:26 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e994;hb=HEAD#l119 | |
| 05:26 | can someone explain to me why that test would pass? | |
| 05:26 | oops, wrong test | |
| 05:26 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e994;hb=HEAD#l113 | |
| 05:27 | my $single_holiday = DateTime->new( | |
| 05:27 | year => 2011, | |
| 05:27 | month => 6, | |
| 05:27 | day => 1, | |
| 05:27 | ); # should be a holiday | |
| 05:27 | . | |
| 05:28 | why would 2011/06/01 be a holiday... its a wednesday | |
| 05:29 | ah, i see now :) | |
| 05:29 | its defined a bit before, in the test :) | |
| 05:29 | 69 { # single holidays | |
| 05:29 | 70 statement => "SELECT day, month, year FROM special_holidays WHERE branchcod | |
| 05:29 | e = ? AND isexception = 0", | |
| 05:29 | 71 results => [ | |
| 05:29 | 72 [ 'day', 'month', 'year' ], | |
| 05:29 | 73 [ 1, 6, 2011 ], # single holiday | |
| 05:29 | 74 [ 4, 7, 2012 ] | |
| 05:30 | 75 ] | |
| 05:30 | 76 } | |
| 05:30 | 77 )); | |
| 05:30 | . | |
| 05:30 | all good :0) | |
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| 06:25 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:26 | magnuse | mtj: quack quack |
| 06:26 | :-) | |
| 06:26 | * mtj | ducks |
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| 06:38 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:39 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 06:40 | reiveune | salut magnuse rangi :) |
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| 06:58 | Joubu | Bonjour #koha |
| 07:07 | magnuse | hiya Joubu |
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| 07:21 | Joubu | Does someone have the same issue as bug 2422? |
| 07:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2422 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , Cataloging searches with more than 1 page results show blank pages after page 1 |
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| 07:23 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:24 | AmitG | hello gaetan_B |
| 07:28 | magnuse | Joubu: bot of the links in comment #1 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=2422#c1 work for me |
| 07:28 | huginn` | 04Bug 2422: major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , Cataloging searches with more than 1 page results show blank pages after page 1 |
| 07:29 | magnuse | the title of the bug says "Cataloging searches" but the links in the comment are for the opac? |
| 07:29 | Joubu | magnuse: yes, the library fixed the problem on their production server |
| 07:29 | magnuse | ah, ok |
| 07:30 | Joubu | the only info he got : launch a search at the opac, see page 2: it should be a blank page |
| 07:31 | magnuse | works for me: http://sksk.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]sort_by=relevance 3.20.1 |
| 07:32 | Joubu | yes, same here. On the example, there is a trailing whitespace in the search, but it does not change anything for me |
| 07:32 | magnuse | also with marc21: http://hylte.bibkat.se/cgi-bin[…]sort_by=relevance |
| 07:32 | same for me | |
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| 07:44 | Joubu | magnuse: thanks for having tested! :) |
| 07:46 | magnuse | np |
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| 08:17 | drojf | morning #koha |
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| 08:29 | drojf | maybe that is a stupid question, but what happens when upgrading from 3.18 to 3.20 and moving from OpacItemHolds & AllowOnShelfHolds as sysprefs to circulation matrix settings? won't that break everything if you used those sysprefs? |
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| 08:41 | rangi | naw, it shifts them |
| 08:41 | if (C4::Context->preference("AllowOnShelfHolds")){ # Pref is on, set allow for all rules $dbh->do("UPDATE issuingrules SET onshelfholds=1"); | |
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| 08:42 | rangi | etc |
| 08:42 | * mtj | waves to #koha |
| 08:42 | drojf | ah excellent, thanks rangi |
| 08:44 | mtj | Joubu, rangi - i have a date problem you might know |
| 08:44 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e994;hb=HEAD#l221 | |
| 08:45 | if $dt is '2012-07-03'.. | |
| 08:45 | adding 1 day to it.. would make it '2012-07-04' | |
| 08:47 | Joubu | mtj: Why do you want to use C4::Calendar? :) |
| 08:47 | mtj | but that test expects '2012-07-05', not '2012-07-04' - why? |
| 08:48 | Joubu | mtj: Prefer Koha::Calendar->addDate |
| 08:49 | mtj: You mean the test does not pass for you now? | |
| 08:49 | * indradg | wave to @koha |
| 08:52 | mtj | hey Joubu, yeah... does not pass now?! |
| 08:52 | magnuse | indradg: there is only one koha ;-) |
| 08:52 | indradg | lol |
| 08:53 | Joubu | mtj: on master, prove t/Calendar.t returns success for me |
| 08:54 | mtj | yes, me too... but why does it pass? |
| 08:55 | the real reason i ask.. is i made some caching changes to Koha/Calendar.pm - and this test broke.. | |
| 08:55 | so, did i just fix a bug?.. or have i introduced a new bug? | |
| 08:56 | '2012-07-03' is a tuesday | |
| 08:57 | $dt = dt_from_string('2012-07-03','iso'); | |
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| 08:57 | cait | morning #koha |
| 08:58 | mtj | hiya cait |
| 08:58 | my $one_day_dur = DateTime::Duration->new( days => 1 ); | |
| 08:58 | Joubu | I suppose the day between was an holiday |
| 08:58 | the 2015-07-04 | |
| 08:58 | which is known as holiday in US ;) | |
| 08:58 | mtj | Joubu: ahh yes :) |
| 08:59 | Joubu | mtj: see the mock at the beginning of the file, line 69 |
| 08:59 | mtj | i see it |
| 09:00 | cait | rangi: still around? |
| 09:04 | rangi | yup |
| 09:04 | cait | ah cool :) |
| 09:07 | drojf | there is no way to make a category (in circulation matrix) or an item (by general itemtypes setting or item data in cataloging) available for on-site checkout only, correct? |
| 09:07 | cait | not currently |
| 09:07 | mtj | thanks for your help Joubu |
| 09:07 | drojf | thanks |
| 09:07 | cait | there is a patch from joubu introducing some limits i think |
| 09:07 | something with quota? | |
| 09:07 | drojf | i thought there was a magazinausleihe-related bug, but i can't find it |
| 09:08 | cait | depends on what you are thinking of :) |
| 09:08 | * cait | needs more keywords |
| 09:08 | drojf | not sure what i have in the back of my head heh :D need caffeine to get really started |
| 09:09 | i will get back to you once i am fully awake ;) | |
| 09:10 | cait | ok |
| 09:11 | Joubu | drojf: bug 14045 |
| 09:11 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add specific quotas to on-site checkout |
| 09:11 | drojf | the quota bug is only about a separate value for allowed on-site checkouts, independent of regular allowed checkouts i think? |
| 09:15 | Joubu | drojf: What would you like? |
| 09:16 | cait | drojf: could you set regular to 0 allowed and then allow onsite? |
| 09:16 | Joubu | From the commit msg: In order to keep the existing behavior and to let more flexibility, a new system preference is added (ConsiderOnSiteCheckoutsAsNormalCheckouts). This syspref will let the liberty to the library to decide if an on-site checkout should be considered as a "normal" checkout or not. |
| 09:16 | I think the pref answers your need | |
| 09:17 | cait | sorry but i don't understand what it does :( |
| 09:17 | drojf | Joubu: yes, that is how i understood it, thanks :) i was looking for something different. "(10:07:06) drojf: there is no way to make a category (in circulation matrix) or an item (by general itemtypes setting or item data in cataloging) available for on-site checkout only, correct?" |
| 09:18 | cait: i think that could be a workaround if the quota patch was per category, which i think it is not | |
| 09:19 | Joubu | Patron category: "OnSiteOnly", itemtype "all", checkout allowed: 0, onsite checkout allowed: 42 |
| 09:19 | cait | so what does the pref do? |
| 09:19 | drojf | it would make more sense to have on-site checkout like we have notforloan |
| 09:19 | Joubu | It does not what you want? |
| 09:21 | drojf | hm. i think patron category: all, itemtype <single item type>, checkouts allowed 0, onsite checkout allowed: 42 would work |
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| 09:24 | drojf | i will try, thanks Joubu and cait |
| 09:26 | Joubu | cait: I don't know how I can explain better :-/ If On an on-site checkout is considered as a normal checkout. |
| 09:27 | cait | hum. |
| 09:27 | Joubu | if considered as normal, the number of total checkouts = normal checkout + onsite-checkout |
| 09:27 | otherwise they are independent | |
| 09:27 | cait | hmm |
| 09:28 | i thik the name is a bit confusing then | |
| 09:28 | Joubu | sorry :-/ |
| 09:28 | cait | because it only applies for the total of possible checkouts |
| 09:28 | i'd have thought ok, then i can renew it the same way... it will use the loan period etc. | |
| 09:29 | Joubu | no, only for the number of checkouts allowed |
| 09:31 | indradg | cait, Joubu: one of my sponsoring clients has an "on-site checkout" requirement. A research library in rare books and manuscripts (400 - 500 years old). The items are not for circ in traditional sense. but they have users to request from the opac and the librarians / archivists sometimes bring up the item from storage / closed stacks. these items they are planning to track with on-site circ |
| 09:31 | cait | maybe need a better name |
| 09:33 | Joubu | it needs qa :) |
| 09:37 | drojf | Joubu: when i apply the patch, i have a small conflict: HEAD has use Test::More tests => 13; your patch has use Test::More tests => 11; |
| 09:37 | should i leave 13 or increase it when i rebase? (not sure what it does) | |
| 09:38 | Joubu | maybe more :) |
| 09:39 | tests have been added to master, and my patch adds some too, so the number of tests is certainly > 13 | |
| 09:40 | drojf | that's what i thought :) i really need to learn how tests work ;) |
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| 09:46 | mtj | peeps, what TZ would you expect Koha's datetime objects to be using? |
| 09:46 | drojf | that of the server? |
| 09:47 | mtj | sure, thats what im thinking too |
| 09:47 | i think rangi said as much yesterday even | |
| 09:48 | drojf | maybe that's a problem for hosting international clients on the same server |
| 09:48 | so I'd charge them extra to have a server in their time zone :P (or ask them to fund TZ by instance/branch in koha) ;) | |
| 09:49 | mtj | ^ yes, its always been a know problem so far |
| 09:49 | afaik | |
| 09:50 | Joubu | mtj C4::Context 783 >---my $tz = $ENV{TZ}; |
| 09:50 | magnuse | maybe bywater has some experience with that? |
| 09:50 | mtj | im bumpng into some subtle bugs with comparing datetime objects, with different TZs |
| 09:50 | drojf | TZ by patron would be fun too |
| 09:50 | Joubu | Il could be easy to change it with my $tz = C4::Context->preference("tz") || $ENV{TZ} |
| 09:50 | and add a new pref | |
| 09:51 | mtj | im comparing dates using epoch strings, so my problem is accute |
| 09:51 | i see some DT objs are ... | |
| 09:51 | tz DateTime::TimeZone::Floating, | |
| 09:52 | some are ... | |
| 09:52 | tz DateTime::TimeZone::Pacific::Auckland, | |
| 09:53 | 2012-07-03 can be many epoch values, depending on its TZ | |
| 09:53 | ..for example | |
| 09:54 | im guessing i should be checking that my DT objs are the same TZ before comparing them | |
| 09:54 | drojf | floating is… local time of the client? |
| 09:55 | mtj | hmm, not quite sure yet drojf |
| 09:56 | i have seen a recent BZ about 'Floating' being used for performance | |
| 10:00 | soo.. im guessing the trick is to convert a DT obj to your TZ, before comparing it | |
| 10:05 | an example of this mismatched date/tz bug is.. | |
| 10:05 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e994;hb=HEAD#l188 | |
| 10:06 | $test_dt and $later_dt are compared - but they have mismatched TZs | |
| 10:11 | drojf: http://search.cpan.org/~drolsk[…]eZone/Floating.pm | |
| 10:12 | Joubu | The problème with the TZ is that DateTime should know the DST and calculate them (if there is comparition, or add_duration, etc.) |
| 10:12 | For instance if you instanciate a date far in the future (9999), it will calculate all the DST, if a TZ is given | |
| 10:13 | mtj: there is a trick in Koha::DateUtils, to return, in a few case, a floating DT: If the object has not been instanciate with the TZ (there is an eval somewhere) | |
| 10:14 | There is a good explanation of what is a floating time, and when you should use it | |
| 10:14 | I think it's in the doc of DateTime | |
| 10:15 | https://metacpan.org/pod/DateT[…]loating-DateTimes | |
| 10:15 | mtj | thanks Joubu |
| 10:17 | cait | mtj: did you see pianohackers patches for the calendar? |
| 10:17 | Joubu | mtj: and this one http://www.w3.org/TR/timezone/#floating |
| 10:17 | cait | bug 11211 |
| 10:17 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar |
| 10:20 | mtj | hum, no i missed that bug ^ |
| 10:21 | cait | i haven't taken a closer look at the code, so not sure if it already takes some things into account that you are working on |
| 10:21 | Joubu | mtj: yes, as I said before, please avoid to use any subroutines/methods from C4::Calendar or C4::Dates |
| 10:22 | mtj | Joubu: yep, afaik ... i am not |
| 10:23 | cait: 11211 looks to be a different fix | |
| 10:23 | cait | it's a rewrite |
| 10:28 | mtj | my changes are just to Koha::Calendar::single_holidays() (and friends) |
| 10:28 | ..so, hopefully the changes wont clash | |
| 10:29 | cait | hm any ideas on how to do a tooltip/mouseover thing in opac with jquery? |
| 10:29 | mtj: cool | |
| 10:31 | mtj | http://www.w3schools.com/boots[…]strap_popover.asp |
| 10:31 | cait? ^ | |
| 10:32 | cait | not sure if we are using tha tyet |
| 10:34 | mtj | our bootstrap is too old? |
| 10:35 | cait | i dn't know |
| 10:37 | the data-toggle doesn't seem to work in thte opac | |
| 10:39 | mtj | http://getbootstrap.com/2.3.2/[…]ipt.html#popovers |
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| 10:43 | mtj | fyi cait, i see bs popover is used in... |
| 10:43 | ./koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/basket/basket.tt | |
| 10:43 | cait | i think something similar is also used behind the digest icon in the patron account mess prefs |
| 10:44 | but i can't get it tow ork in the opac | |
| 10:44 | i give up for now - don't have the time to spend on this right now | |
| 10:44 | but thx! | |
| 10:44 | mtj | np, perhaps the opac is missing some needed BS files |
| 10:45 | bootstrap-popover.js ? | |
| 11:20 | some good news... switching to 'Ymd' from epoch strings fixed the failing tests | |
| 11:21 | cait | drojf: translation time! |
| 11:21 | drojf | cait: there is a lot of odd stuff in 3.20 translation |
| 11:21 | cait | i think thatis because they changed the default includes for the header |
| 11:21 | mostly $s changes | |
| 11:22 | in the title line | |
| 11:22 | the patch aleisha did | |
| 11:23 | we really need to check the po files in the end | |
| 11:25 | magnuse | could we maybe split the title lines at ›? seems like that would save us some repetitive translations |
| 11:25 | like when we have | |
| 11:25 | Koha › Tools › Labels | |
| 11:25 | drojf | new functionality stuff has a lot of errors. maybe some are because of what you say, i tried to fix some weird word orders. but also things like… "on shelf holds allowed" > "Keine Vormerkung verfügbarer Titel erlaubt", so it's the opposite? |
| 11:25 | magnuse | Koha › Tools › Labels › Label printing/exporting |
| 11:25 | drojf | cait: |
| 11:26 | oops | |
| 11:26 | cait ^^ | |
| 11:32 | cait | drojf: ok, that's strange |
| 11:32 | maybe it's because of the suggestion feature | |
| 11:32 | tries to give you a translation - and it's wrong? | |
| 11:32 | as long as those are fuzzy we don't have a problem yet | |
| 11:33 | drojf | it's not fuzzy, it's like that in 3.20.1 |
| 11:33 | i fixed it now | |
| 11:33 | or, some time ago today | |
| 11:35 | we need a test workflow for when we are done with translations. check all new features at least for a main release. i'm sure there are a lot more problems, i have not even used it much and found several | |
| 11:39 | not sure if we want to use the wiki, the translation list or something else, but i think we should think about some translation things and organise that somehow. like further unification of terms we use. i often find small inconstistencies. like | |
| 11:39 | Stapellöschung von Exemplaren | |
| 11:39 | Stapelbearbeitung von Exemplaren | |
| 11:39 | Stapellöschung von Titeln | |
| 11:39 | Stapelbearbeitung von Titeldaten | |
| 11:39 | why is it titeln once and titeldaten the other. and why is it titel if it is about titel and exemplare | |
| 11:39 | things like that | |
| 11:40 | unfortunately these cannot be found while working in pootle, unless you want to follow every single word in koha simultaneously | |
| 11:40 | and it is very annoying to fix it later one by one with pootle search | |
| 11:42 | so i'd rather keep notes of such problems and then fix them in the po files from time to time (maybe at string freeze, before we start with new translations) | |
| 11:42 | is this thing on? *taps mic* | |
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| 11:45 | AmitG | hi indradg_ |
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| 11:57 | drojf | lol. i'm sure the paper bin in label printing is not a papierkorb but a fach |
| 12:03 | cait | lol |
| 12:03 | yep | |
| 12:03 | i thought i had fixed that... | |
| 12:09 | AmitG | heya cait |
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| 12:14 | * magnuse | wanders off |
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| 15:18 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:07 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 16:37 | Joubu | Could you be a little more quiet please? |
| 16:47 | nengard | ha |
| 16:47 | shhhhh | |
| 16:48 | * Joubu | is hidden behind his screen |
| 16:48 | Joubu | sorry |
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| 16:52 | pianohacker | Joubu: yo, I had discussed with cait the possibility of bringing in Rancor (bug 11559) as an experimental dev as long as it was hidden behind a system preference and didn't break the rest of Koha. That was what the latest version of the patch series and the newest test plan was supposed to ensure. Does that seem reasonable? |
| 16:52 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface |
| 16:52 | cait | heh |
| 16:52 | you always make that sound like i gave you a green go in card ;) | |
| 16:52 | i said after it passed qa :P | |
| 16:53 | Joubu | pianohacker: of course, if it works, I don't see any reason to block it :) |
| 16:54 | pianohacker | cait: I know, my wording is bad |
| 16:54 | Joubu | Green is better than red |
| 16:54 | pianohacker | indeed! |
| 16:54 | cait | guess it's kind of yellow right now :) |
| 16:55 | Joubu | pianohacker: I'll happy to review it again when it will be SO |
| 16:56 | pianohacker | well, and that's the thing that I _think_ cait and I were trying to negotiate |
| 16:56 | is the signoff that it doesn't break Koha or that some brave soul actually did the whole test plan I posted? | |
| 16:56 | cait | pianohacker: no way around a sign off, sorry |
| 16:57 | i'd also accept a group working out a google doc together testing different things i guess | |
| 16:57 | as long as some serious testing takes place | |
| 16:57 | and it's documented | |
| 16:57 | Joubu | I'd like to see a unimarc librarian to validate it |
| 16:57 | pianohacker | *sigh* okay, so we're in exactly the same situation we were around the time of the hackfest |
| 16:57 | I'll start sending chocolates | |
| 16:57 | :P | |
| 16:58 | (not to you, but to testers :)) | |
| 16:58 | Joubu | pianohacker: I promise to be reactive when it will be my turn |
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| 16:58 | Joubu | pianohacker: try the ML! and ask for unimarc testers |
| 16:58 | pianohacker | and you've been very helpful so far, the UNIMARC stuff had some hidden bugs |
| 17:03 | Joubu | Well, beer time here, bye #koha! |
| 17:03 | cait | enjoy :) |
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| 21:18 | bag | cait: HI THERE |
| 21:19 | cait | hi there back |
| 21:21 | drojf | nobody hi theres me |
| 21:21 | cait | HI THERE drojf |
| 21:21 | better? ;) | |
| 21:21 | drojf | oh hi there cait! that was unexpected :) |
| 21:23 | cait | lol |
| 21:24 | drojf | hungry. but also lazy. that must be how cats feel all day |
| 21:24 | burdsjm joined #koha | |
| 21:24 | drojf | oh, i wonder how cemetarycat is doing |
| 21:25 | cait | ? |
| 21:26 | pianohacker | drojf: what was the twitter for that guy? |
| 21:26 | drojf | https://storify.com/thejduce/r[…]b-rescue-a-kitten |
| 21:34 | indradg__ | cait++ #13993backport :) |
| 21:35 | cait | only asking for it :) decision is up to maintainers |
| 21:35 | indradg__ | true |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea++ :D | |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | cemetarycat was caught, was at the vet yesterday |
| 21:37 | no chip | |
| 21:37 | they named her Wednesday | |
| 21:37 | drojf | now you tell me, after i scrolled through the whole storify thingy :) |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | oh sorry, spoilers |
| 21:38 | cait | hmpf |
| 21:38 | i was only at the backup! | |
| 21:38 | drojf | ouch |
| 21:39 | magnuse | HI THERE drojf |
| 21:39 | drojf | i had to see if moreporks really exist. i am very happy to tell you that it is called Neuseeland-Kuckuckskauz in german :) |
| 21:40 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 21:40 | bag | magnuse: knuckles >>>>>>>> |
| 21:40 | drojf | kuckuckskauz is my new favourite german word |
| 21:40 | cait | so many k |
| 21:40 | drojf | hei magnuse :) |
| 21:40 | magnuse | bag: <<<<<<<<<< |
| 21:41 | cait | why are you leaving merge markers on irc? |
| 21:42 | * cait | fails qa |
| 21:43 | pianohacker | trailing whitespace -> |
| 21:44 | magnuse | the horror... |
| 21:45 | pianohacker | btw -> http://blog.yesmeck.com/archiv[…]lling-whitespace/ |
| 21:45 | has already saved my bacon once | |
| 21:46 | rangi | or you have this |
| 21:46 | to fix up http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/ | |
| 21:47 | which i do for new people (cos failing a new devs patch cos of tabs, or whitespace or something ... is just a really really bad idea ) | |
| 21:47 | burdsjm joined #koha | |
| 21:48 | magnuse | kia ora rangi! |
| 21:48 | * magnuse | wanders off into dreamland |
| 21:49 | rangi | hey magnuse :) |
| 21:49 | sleep well | |
| 21:49 | pianohacker | rangi: that only works for am/apply , correct? Not for commit? |
| 21:49 | rangi | yep, its for fixing other peoples mistakes, not stopping your own |
| 21:49 | so both is good :) | |
| 21:50 | pianohacker | cool, okay |
| 21:53 | rangi | that is my most read blogpost |
| 21:53 | it must come up in google searches | |
| 21:53 | heh nice | |
| 21:54 | cait | lol |
| 21:57 | drojf | that said, how many people were at the last kohacons? are there numbers available? |
| 21:57 | rangi | it goes up and down |
| 21:57 | there was about 120ish in argentina | |
| 21:57 | cait | i'd say between 80 and 150? |
| 21:58 | drojf | excellent |
| 21:59 | burdsjm joined #koha | |
| 22:10 | cait | yep |
| 22:10 | we will see | |
| 22:10 | drojf | ah yes it is on the page i have open. lol |
| 22:10 | i should probably go to sleep :P | |
| 22:11 | rangi | id like to be able to put some money into their economy |
| 22:11 | drojf | now i saw there is no detailed proposal for the philippines either, the links are just generic |
| 22:11 | rangi | *nod* |
| 22:15 | cait | they put up some nice information |
| 22:15 | just not haven't been around yet | |
| 22:16 | eythian | hi |
| 22:21 | * drojf | watches junk mail getting desperate |
| 22:22 | drojf | 1) never lose your keys ever again 2) never lose your keys, wallet or purse again 3) never lose anything again |
| 22:22 | lol | |
| 22:23 | and i am asked to enlarge my business now. long gone the times of enlarging my penis | |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | a thing that has changed my life |
| 22:24 | is my pebble watch, which has a toggle to make my phone beep even if it's silenced so I can find it in my house. | |
| 22:24 | worth every penny. | |
| 22:24 | cait | heh, for a moment i was worried |
| 22:24 | pianohacker | drojf: are you sure that's not just a very sophisticated euphemism |
| 22:24 | drojf | pianohacker: OH. maybe |
| 22:24 | lol | |
| 22:24 | pianohacker | hahahahahaha yeah that was some entertaining timing wizzyrea |
| 22:25 | drojf: 'cause if there's something spammers are known for it's sophisticated euphemisms | |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | oh my |
| 22:25 | we were talking about losing things! | |
| 22:26 | pianohacker | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 22:26 | *snort* | |
| 22:26 | * wizzyrea | is probably a bit redfaced atm |
| 22:26 | drojf | pianohacker: actually, no. it is from india and about "real" business |
| 22:26 | lol | |
| 22:27 | pianohacker | ah, the internet, when a German and American can collaboratively embarass an American living in New Zealand |
| 22:27 | cait | lol |
| 22:27 | * cait | sends cookies to wizzyrea |
| 22:28 | wizzyrea | lol thanks |
| 22:30 | eythian | this place seems ... empty |
| 22:30 | wahanui joined #koha | |
| 22:30 | drojf | wizzyrea: apparently it is a phone app, so the only thing you cannot find with that is your phone :D |
| 22:30 | eythian | wahanui: welcome back |
| 22:30 | wahanui | I hate jetlag. |
| 22:30 | drojf | and thank you all for making me actually read those emails :P |
| 22:30 | eythian | wahanui: neat is <action> tips out the ice, starts over. |
| 22:30 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 22:30 | wizzyrea | I am so confused. |
| 22:30 | :) | |
| 22:31 | pianohacker | eythian: oh you: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]14992&oldid=14981 |
| 22:31 | eythian | pianohacker: :D |
| 22:31 | cait | ah yeah... someon eplease fix that |
| 22:31 | to not confuse the non-english speakers | |
| 22:31 | * cait | glares at eythian |
| 22:31 | ibeardslee | hehe |
| 22:31 | eythian | really, it should be the reverse because that's spoken by more people. |
| 22:31 | cait: it provides an example | |
| 22:31 | cait | eythian: you can submit a patch |
| 22:32 | pianohacker | cait: I think the wiki after your small addition is okay :) |
| 22:32 | cait | thx pianohacker |
| 22:33 | pianohacker | since apparently you get rid of a few u's and everyone loses their minds :P |
| 22:33 | eythian | cait: it's like you have Chinese (Traditional) and Chinese (Simplified) |
| 22:34 | pianohacker | there wasn't an insane dictator behind this one, but it's a funny parallel besides that :) |
| 22:35 | eythian | wahanui: us english is http://i.imgur.com/kn488mY.jpg |
| 22:35 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | steam++ that is doing it right. |
| 22:36 | eythian | pianohacker: there kinda was, there was one guy who wrote your dictionary and decided to settle on particular spellings. |
| 22:37 | (I actually have a book about the writing of the English dictionary, it's a surprisingly good read.) | |
| 22:37 | http://www.goodreads.com/book/[…]or_and_the_Madman <-- that's the book | |
| 22:38 | pianohacker | I was about to blame Webster for cocoa, but apparently that was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]_English_Language |
| 22:38 | I'll have to check that out | |
| 22:38 | eythian | > The printing of Johnson's dictionary ran together the entries for coco and cocoa, fostering a confusion that never has been undone. |
| 22:38 | haha | |
| 22:40 | https://www.goodreads.com/user[…]67632-robin-sheat <-- relatedly, in case anyone else uses this | |
| 22:40 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwPM-1LSpLk <-- coco |
| 22:42 | eythian | (I do need to clear off my "currently reading" list, it's getting slightly unweildy.) |
| 22:44 | pianohacker | outta here, back later |
| 22:44 | eythian | http://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html |
| 22:46 | rangi | very cool |
| 22:52 | drojf | good night #koha |
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