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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | eythian | no, I noticed that too |
| 00:00 | wizzyrea | bad journalist. no cookie. |
| 00:00 | cdickinson | when you think about it, it's amazing that didn't actually fall in |
| 00:00 | wizzyrea | seriously. |
| 00:00 | manawatu standard is comedy gold today with headlines | |
| 00:01 | Fork used on pork and ex-partner | |
| 00:01 | ...what | |
| 00:01 | New trampoline a nationwide first < this has to be the onion. | |
| 00:02 | cdickinson | hehe |
| 00:02 | eythian | welcome to rural news |
| 00:02 | wizzyrea | I've lived in rural places. |
| 00:02 | indradg | eythian: viavitae has just 2 techs... and none that is a CentOS expert. |
| 00:03 | wizzyrea | I don't think I ever saw any headlines, much less 3 in one day, that were that special. |
| 00:03 | cdickinson | http://www.stuff.co.nz/motorin[…]ple-speed-cameras - "Welcome to the 40kmh highway" on the Dominion Post homepage |
| 00:03 | if that isn't clickbait, I don't know what is | |
| 00:03 | eythian | it's clickbait. The comments are all pretty mouthbreathery too |
| 00:03 | wizzyrea | oh geez. |
| 00:04 | cdickinson | "Is this a toll road in disguise?" 14 upvotes WTF |
| 00:04 | wizzyrea | it is reasonably daft that the state highway has stoplights on it, and winds through a part of wellington with really pretty narrow streets. |
| 00:04 | BUT. | |
| 00:04 | it's part of our charm. ;) | |
| 00:05 | Also I don't drive, so anything is fine with me. :P | |
| 00:05 | cdickinson | haha |
| 00:05 | wizzyrea | (note that I *can* drive, I just choose not to) |
| 00:05 | eythian | I don't even really know why it's considered part of the highway. It goes ... to the airport! And stops. |
| 00:05 | wizzyrea | ^ all of this. |
| 00:05 | eythian | really, it should go to the ferry terminals, because you can put a car on them. |
| 00:05 | wizzyrea | so reasonable. |
| 00:05 | eythian | and then connect up with the other half of the highway |
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| 00:06 | * wizzyrea | nominates eythian for the road planning committee. |
| 00:06 | cdickinson | yeah, people are divided on that point for sure |
| 00:06 | * eythian | also doesn't have a car, so wouldn't be ideal :) |
| 00:06 | wizzyrea | maybe it would be MORE ideal. |
| 00:06 | because you wouldn't have a car-first bias :) | |
| 00:07 | cdickinson | heh |
| 00:07 | eythian | true :) |
| 00:07 | cdickinson | I drive and I like cars, but I'm a pretty staunch supporter of public transport |
| 00:07 | wizzyrea | Woman sentenced over stabbing ex-partner with fork after pork meal in car < this extended headline isn't much better than the shortened one. |
| 00:08 | eythian | heh |
| 00:08 | wizzyrea | why does it matter what the meal was. |
| 00:08 | you could just stop at "woman sentenced over stabbing ex-partner with fork" | |
| 00:08 | cdickinson | it doesn't even do a good job as clickbait |
| 00:08 | wizzyrea | couldn't resist the rhyme I guess. |
| 00:08 | cdickinson | I don't even care about clicking on it |
| 00:08 | wizzyrea | ikr! |
| 00:09 | well I might click to find out about a fork-stabbing. | |
| 00:09 | that might say something about me. | |
| 00:09 | cdickinson | heh |
| 00:10 | wizzyrea | Cameras, light: explosion < seriously, that's getting into william carlos williams level of non-verbosity. |
| 00:11 | http://www.poets.org/poetsorg/[…]m/red-wheelbarrow | |
| 00:11 | (for example) | |
| 00:13 | drojf | good night #koha |
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| 00:25 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 00:25 | huginn` | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 12.6°C (9:24 PM ART on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:29 | Francesca joined #koha | |
| 00:30 | Francesca | I'm back |
| 00:30 | look rangi I've got a cold so I am just going to work from home today instead | |
| 00:31 | cdickinson | he's AFK |
| 00:31 | wizzyrea | we'll let him know :) |
| 00:31 | cdickinson | his kids are here anyway, so I'm not sure if you'd be able to sit anywhere haha |
| 00:32 | tcohen | hi rangi |
| 00:32 | Francesca | ok thanks guys |
| 00:33 | I'll just hang around on here for a bit, do some work and just chill | |
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| 01:25 | rangi | bugzilla 5.0 is out |
| 01:26 | https://www.bugzilla.org/relea[…]e-notes.html#feat | |
| 01:26 | i think ill do an upgrade | |
| 01:28 | that rest like interface will make my plan to do a pebble app for bugs.koha-community.org a lot more likely to actually happen | |
| 01:28 | eythian | ah cool |
| 01:28 | Francesca | any websites I can work on? |
| 01:28 | eythian | though, not sure I want even more notice about bugs :) |
| 01:29 | rangi | heh i was thinking just the koha-security product |
| 01:29 | actually the caching might be good too | |
| 01:33 | eythian | http://cube-drone.com/comics/c[…]tless-persistence <-- javascript problems/solutions |
| 01:33 | Francesca | sooo no websites that need work done? |
| 01:33 | rangi | not that i can think of |
| 01:33 | you could maybe read a bit about bugzilla | |
| 01:33 | see how easy it is to theme? | |
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| 01:36 | Francesca | buzilla isn't working atm |
| 01:36 | i went to the page and got this software errorThe ./data/params.json file does not exist. You probably need to run checksetup.pl. at Bugzilla/Config.pm line 350. | |
| 01:36 | Compilation failed in require at /var/www/bugzilla3/index.cgi line 15. | |
| 01:36 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/www/bugzilla3/index.cgi line 15. | |
| 01:36 | rangi | https://www.bugzilla.org/docs/ |
| 01:36 | i meant hin here to see if it tells you how to theme it etc | |
| 01:37 | Francesca | ok cool |
| 01:37 | rangi | ohh look at that now |
| 01:37 | http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ | |
| 01:37 | the common queries thing is cool | |
| 01:37 | Francesca | nice work |
| 01:38 | I just have this urge to try and make the colours match the other koha sites I've worked on | |
| 01:38 | eythian | wahanui: \you maniacs is <reply>\You blew it up! Ah, damn \you! God damn \you all to hell! |
| 01:38 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 01:39 | eythian | wahanui: literal you maniacs |
| 01:39 | wahanui | eythian: what? |
| 01:39 | eythian | wahanui: literal maniacs |
| 01:39 | wahanui | eythian: what? |
| 01:39 | eythian | hmph |
| 01:39 | Francesca | hahahahaha |
| 01:39 | wizzyrea | oh! common queries! |
| 01:39 | neat! | |
| 01:40 | Francesca | I want to turn the page green |
| 01:40 | since green seems to be like kohas colour | |
| 01:40 | wizzyrea | if you made it kind of match the website that would be cool |
| 01:40 | (which is more white than green | |
| 01:40 | ) | |
| 01:41 | Francesca | I can do that |
| 01:41 | wizzyrea | white/grey/green |
| 01:41 | Francesca | yeah I've borrowed the website colour scheme before |
| 01:41 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 01:42 | Francesca | this is the website we're talking about right? http://koha-community.org/ |
| 01:45 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 01:45 | * Francesca | wonders how to change the css |
| 01:48 | Francesca | rangi is this the sort of thing you were thinking about? |
| 01:48 | Bugzilla supports skins - ways of changing the look of the UI without altering its underlying structure. It ships with two - "Classic" and "Dusk". You can find some more listed on the wiki, and there are a couple more which are part of bugzilla.mozilla.org. However, in each case you may need to check that the skin supports the version of Bugzilla you have. | |
| 01:48 | this is from the documentation | |
| 01:52 | rangi | yep so you might have to see if you can figure out how to make skins |
| 01:53 | Francesca | okey doke |
| 01:53 | new challange | |
| 01:53 | fun | |
| 01:54 | this is what basil says to do To create a new custom skin, make a directory that contains all the same CSS file names as skins/standard/, and put your directory in skins/contrib/. Then, add your CSS to the appropriate files. | |
| 01:54 | omg autocorrect | |
| 01:54 | stop it | |
| 01:55 | so is there anyway I can look at these files? Do I install bugzilla on my laptop or something | |
| 01:57 | rangi | https://git.mozilla.org/?p=bug[…]lla.git;a=summary |
| 01:57 | you should be able to clone that | |
| 01:58 | Francesca | ok. Never used this site before |
| 01:58 | * Francesca | goes off to try and figure out where the clone option is |
| 02:01 | Francesca | tried doing my usual clone thing |
| 02:01 | got this error | |
| 02:02 | fatal: repository 'https://git.mozilla.org/?p=bug[…]la/bugzilla.git/' | |
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | no slash on the end maybe? |
| 02:03 | Francesca | nope |
| 02:03 | same error | |
| 02:04 | I couldn't actually find anything that said clone I just grabbed the url and went git clone insert_url_here | |
| 02:05 | eythian | that's not a git repo url |
| 02:05 | that's a gitweb url | |
| 02:05 | wizzyrea | https://git.mozilla.org/bugzilla/bugzilla.git this one maybe? |
| 02:05 | (the one listed by URL) | |
| 02:05 | Francesca | 404 not found |
| 02:05 | wahanui | well, 404 not found is http://www.masswerk.at/404 |
| 02:06 | Francesca | shh wahanui |
| 02:06 | wahanui | I'M EXCERCISING MY ROBOT RIGHT TO FREE DATA TRANSMISSION |
| 02:06 | wizzyrea | best. |
| 02:06 | Francesca | hahahahaha |
| 02:06 | eythian | https://bugzilla.readthedocs.o[…]alling/linux.html <-- 3.2.3 |
| 02:06 | Francesca | oh |
| 02:06 | thats linux | |
| 02:06 | dammit | |
| 02:07 | eythian | https://bugzilla.readthedocs.o[…]ling/windows.html |
| 02:07 | but windows is the Hard Way | |
| 02:07 | Francesca | I'm mac |
| 02:07 | not windows | |
| 02:08 | eythian | oh |
| 02:08 | mac is probably also the hard way | |
| 02:08 | Francesca | everything is the hard wat |
| 02:08 | ah well | |
| 02:09 | I'll work it out | |
| 02:09 | eythian | https://bugzilla.readthedocs.o[…]ing/mac-os-x.html |
| 02:09 | (there's a theme with these links :) | |
| 02:09 | they all tell you where to check it out from git, anyway | |
| 02:10 | Francesca | yeah |
| 02:10 | new error | |
| 02:10 | fatal: Remote branch release-X.X-stable not found in upstream origin | |
| 02:10 | wizzyrea | X is probably a variable |
| 02:10 | Francesca | perhaps I better install git on here |
| 02:10 | eythian | that's not what the error means |
| 02:11 | read both the error and the instructions | |
| 02:11 | because you didn't do the latter :) | |
| 02:12 | Francesca | I'll just work my way through that stuff then |
| 02:21 | wizzyrea | whoa! test bug just blew up! |
| 02:22 | rangi | i was just testing it :) |
| 02:22 | wizzyrea | I am always so glad I made that bug |
| 02:22 | much better than having heaps of test bugs. | |
| 02:23 | Francesca | you didn't literally blow anything up did you? |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | ooh comment preview |
| 02:23 | hehe no | |
| 02:23 | rangi | yup |
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| 02:23 | rangi | hey tcohen |
| 02:27 | Francesca | grrr git doesn't appear to be installing on here |
| 02:30 | eythian | Francesca: you got an error from git before, therefore you apparently have git. |
| 02:32 | wizzyrea | Also I am pretty sure we installed it one time when you were here |
| 02:33 | :) | |
| 02:36 | Francesca | that was onwindows |
| 02:36 | rangi | hmm you were doing stuff with git for the dashboard |
| 02:37 | last week | |
| 02:37 | wahanui | hmmm... last week is just one big blur :) |
| 02:37 | rangi | i think you need to change the X.X to actual values |
| 02:39 | Francesca | yeah working on it |
| 02:39 | this cold is turning my head all fuzzy | |
| 02:40 | yap there we go | |
| 02:40 | grrr auto correct | |
| 02:40 | its working now | |
| 02:40 | rangi | cool |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 02:41 | * Francesca | really needs to turn off auto correct for irc |
| 02:42 | Francesca | hey wizzyrea my cats have decided to make friends again while the weather is so cold |
| 02:42 | they happily share half an armchair each | |
| 02:42 | wizzyrea | :D |
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| 02:43 | Francesca | yas done |
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| 02:50 | Francesca | wizzyrea its a shame my cats can't come out with me |
| 02:50 | you would adore them | |
| 02:50 | wizzyrea | :) that's probably true |
| 02:55 | Francesca | here is an article for you http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-st[…]y-cats-delight-us |
| 02:55 | since you like cats | |
| 02:56 | wizzyrea | the simple answer to that question is "because they are adorable" |
| 02:57 | the little orange one sprawled on a lap reminds me of a cat I used to have. | |
| 02:57 | eythian | https://youtu.be/Hgx-Qa8DXDE |
| 02:57 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 02:59 | eythian | "cat dishes include chili cat, "El Gato" stew, feline and fries, calico claws, cat tails, whisker omelet, breast of cat, cats Benedict, filet of cat, stir-fried cat, feline mignon, and cat fudge sundae." |
| 02:59 | hehe cat fudge sundae | |
| 03:00 | wizzyrea | ew. is that like http://allrecipes.com/recipe/kitty-litter-cake/ |
| 03:00 | eythian | heh |
| 03:00 | wizzyrea | I just realised that tootsie rolls aren't really a thinghere. |
| 03:01 | eythian | no, they're not. |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | or at least I haven't seen them. |
| 03:01 | Francesca | lol |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | This weather is pants. |
| 03:02 | Francesca | mmm |
| 03:09 | OH.MY.GOD. this is soooooooo good!!! http://www.nzherald.co.nz/ente[…]objectid=11478805 | |
| 03:09 | I'm dying | |
| 03:11 | wizzyrea | :D yeah it's been a good news kind of week for whovians. |
| 03:12 | eythian | https://youtu.be/iu6jO_cxiqQ <-- a preview |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea | hahahahaha |
| 03:13 | not to be pedantic, but that was a 10th doctor episode. :P | |
| 03:13 | eythian | https://youtu.be/5Blf073f2Lc <-- I prefer this one really |
| 03:14 | Francesca | I'm saving up for the fan event in auckland later this year |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea | yeah that 2nd one is quite a bit better. |
| 03:15 | eythian | heh true |
| 03:15 | wizzyrea | also, peter capaldi is in Paddington, and that's pretty hilarious. |
| 03:16 | you kind of expect his flat to turn into the tardis. | |
| 03:16 | eythian | if you haven't watched The Thick of It, you should do so |
| 03:16 | wizzyrea | "I am waiting for something awesome to happen here... Oh it's just paddington." |
| 03:16 | * wizzyrea | has watched it |
| 03:17 | wizzyrea | I am not sure how I would characterise it. Funny,sure. Appalling, yes. closer to reality than we might like... probably. |
| 03:17 | Francesca | I watched paddington |
| 03:17 | my step mother was appalled at how excited I got over peter capaldi being in it | |
| 03:17 | she doesn't approve of doctor who | |
| 03:17 | which is a shame cas dads a nerd as well | |
| 03:18 | wizzyrea | hrmph. |
| 03:18 | my parents didn't approve of the simpsons. | |
| 03:18 | eythian | Francesca: then you definitely should watch The Thick of It, he's a main character :) |
| 03:18 | wizzyrea | my mom was convinced it was "filthy" which, ok, fair enough. |
| 03:19 | Francesca | hahaha is that the one where he does all the swearing |
| 03:19 | wizzyrea | same for "Fresh Prince of Bel Air" she did not approve. |
| 03:19 | fresh prince = decidedly not filthy. | |
| 03:19 | hehe yes. | |
| 03:19 | it's the sweary one. | |
| 03:20 | Francesca | lol |
| 03:22 | man that trailer was so good I died | |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea | this is ghost francesca? |
| 03:24 | Francesca | yup |
| 03:24 | * ghost_francesca | waves |
| 03:25 | ghost_francesca | I wonder if anyone has ever died of pure woven excitement before |
| 03:25 | whovian | |
| 03:37 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 03:37 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (3:00 PM NZST on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:43 | eythian | I'm going to have to optimise this ES indexing process at some stage, I think it's a lot slower than it needs to be. |
| 03:44 | wizzyrea | "squalls" is not a word I would have ever used to describe weather in other places I've lived. |
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| 03:44 | wizzyrea | but it is absolutely the best word for this weather. |
| 03:45 | ghost_francesca | Right I'm over this cold already |
| 03:45 | ears blocked head hurts | |
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| 04:42 | drojf | morning. why am i awake already? |
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| 05:17 | francesca | dunno |
| 05:17 | why are you awake drojf | |
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| 06:26 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:43 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:44 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 06:44 | reiveune | salut magnuse |
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| 06:56 | Joubu | Hello #koha |
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| 06:58 | seige | hi |
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| 07:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:00 | wahanui | kia ora, alex_a |
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| 07:01 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:03 | magnuse | hiya Joubu leander alex_a marcelr |
| 07:04 | alex_a | hello magnuse and magnuse |
| 07:04 | leander | hi magnuse |
| 07:08 | * leander | is looking for cait |
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| 07:12 | magnuse | leander: i think maybe cait said she would be traveling today? |
| 07:12 | leander | ah, ok |
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| 07:15 | Joubu | eythian: |
| 07:16 | rangi++ # bz update | |
| 07:24 | magnuse | ooh, version 5 |
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| 07:35 | indradg | hi Joubu, alex_a, magnuse, marcelr, leander |
| 07:35 | marcelr | hi indradg |
| 07:37 | magnuse | namoshkaar indradg |
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| 07:48 | marcelr | Joubu: tests for CalcDateDue added too on bug 14494 |
| 07:48 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Terribly slow checkout caused by DateTime->new in far future |
| 07:54 | Joubu | marcelr: I am not sure to understand the change in CalcDateDue actually |
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| 07:55 | Joubu | I am not sure comparing a floating with a parcular tz is a good thing to do |
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| 07:58 | marcelr | sorry? |
| 07:59 | please read the code more carefully; both are floating | |
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| 08:00 | marcelr | if you would test this bug without the second patch so only 1 3 and 4, the test will fail; we need patch 2 |
| 08:00 | the time spent would be 80 secs with me | |
| 08:02 | Joubu | both are floating, indeed... |
| 08:04 | marcelr: actually it's just... we add complexity to take into account different "infinite" date. | |
| 08:04 | To me it does not make sense | |
| 08:04 | marcelr | it makes more sense to me |
| 08:04 | we should not test on 9999 | |
| 08:04 | Joubu | why not? |
| 08:04 | marcelr | it is a hardcoded date |
| 08:04 | Joubu | yes |
| 08:05 | marcelr | i added a test with 9876 |
| 08:05 | and it works fine too | |
| 08:05 | it is more robust | |
| 08:05 | Joubu | and more error prone |
| 08:05 | marcelr | we follow the recommendation of DateTime to make calculations in floating |
| 08:06 | Joubu | no we don't, we just do it on 1 place |
| 08:06 | marcelr | I would opt for removing 9999 in some other code too |
| 08:06 | we did not yet remove DateTime compares in all code etc. | |
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| 08:07 | marcelr | should I open a new report to remove 9999 from DateUtils ? |
| 08:08 | Joubu: what is more error prone about the 9876 test ? | |
| 08:09 | Joubu | more changes, more complexity :) |
| 08:10 | marcelr | i disagree; it is just another test date separate from 9999 |
| 08:10 | just data | |
| 08:11 | I am not proposing to put such dates anywhere in the database at all | |
| 08:12 | Joubu | We have occured several issues last year related to dates. It's quite frustrating to see a bug reproductible 1 day and not another one, because of the tz, etc. |
| 08:12 | The simpler the code is, the less error we could find | |
| 08:13 | marcelr | this is just the reason for me why the floating tz compare is better |
| 08:13 | Joubu | git grep "DateTime->compare" | wc => 18 |
| 08:15 | marcelr | we covered all dateexpiry cases on this report |
| 08:15 | we could check other compares or move them to DateUtils but it is another scope | |
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| 08:17 | petter | hi #koha |
| 08:21 | Joubu | Hi petter |
| 08:23 | @later tell rangi I got an error on bz attach -e. The status is changed but the patches are not sent (Failed to update bug 14494, status=200). With the -e option, the patches are sent | |
| 08:23 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:26 | marcelr | Joubu++ |
| 08:27 | Joubu | marcelr++ ;) |
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| 09:01 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:01 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 20.7°C (11:01 AM CEST on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:01 | cait | @wunder Tübingen |
| 09:01 | huginn` | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:01 | cait | @wunder entringen |
| 09:01 | huginn` | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:01 | cait | @wunder Tuebingen |
| 09:01 | huginn` | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:01 | cait | hm. |
| 09:04 | petter | Anyone has up-to-date instructions for setting up Koha with Plack? |
| 09:05 | The wiki page states that it's outdated, so I haven't tried following it yet | |
| 09:17 | Joubu | petter: the patch is still partially ok. Actually now the opac.psgi and intranet.psgi files are included in the koha repo (see file misc/plack/koha.psgi) |
| 09:17 | petter: warning: It's not ready yet for production | |
| 09:17 | s/patch/page | |
| 09:18 | petter | Joubu: cool, thanks! Will try it out |
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| 09:22 | francesca | @wunder Wellington |
| 09:22 | huginn` | francesca: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:28 | cdickinson | @wunder nzwn |
| 09:28 | huginn` | cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (9:00 PM NZST on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:28 | cdickinson | Don't ask me how it works |
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| 09:42 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 09:43 | i like the common queries in bugzilla. nice! | |
| 09:46 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 09:46 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 14.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:48 | kivilahtio | Joubu: can you tell me how do we use TestBuilder.pm to generate a valid borrower? Like something which can be used to test authentication? |
| 09:49 | I love the way you can easily clean all the changes you have, but what if you want to only clean a subset of the DB changes you have made? | |
| 09:49 | Joubu | kivilahtio: my $patron = $builder->build({source => 'Borrower'}); |
| 09:49 | kivilahtio | Joubu: and it HASHes the password automatically? |
| 09:50 | Joubu | kivilahtio: no, it just filled the pwd field with something |
| 09:50 | fills | |
| 09:50 | kivilahtio | I am eyeballing the code, it looks like it uses a BEGIN statement to store the transactions into a temporary never-completing transaction? |
| 09:50 | am I correct? | |
| 09:51 | Joubu | you can pass it with my $patron = $builder->build({source => 'Borrower', value => { password =>'your hash'}); |
| 09:51 | kivilahtio: yes | |
| 09:51 | kivilahtio | Joubu: so how does this translate to Selenium tests ? |
| 09:51 | Do you have any suggestions how I could make this work with Selenium tests? | |
| 09:51 | Joubu | kivilahtio: what do you mean? |
| 09:52 | kivilahtio | I have quite a nice framework for driving them :) |
| 09:52 | Well, selenium tests cannot rely on test context which ios not persisted to the DB | |
| 09:53 | the noncommitted SQL transaction isonly visible to the SQL thread processing the SQL session | |
| 09:53 | when I run Selenium tests which are like replayed real world tests, these non-committed changes are not visible | |
| 09:54 | So based on the current TestBuilder features I think it is aimed for unit testing only | |
| 09:54 | I am just thinking of could it be generalized to become a universal TestBuilde for integration tests as well? And could it have multiple stash-contexts like Cucumber test have? | |
| 09:55 | It is super awesome to have three stashes, for step-objects, for scenario-objects and feature-objects | |
| 09:55 | especially when doing very slow-to-set-up tests | |
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| 09:57 | kivilahtio | I think we should add business logic shorthands to the TestBuilder. I would like to generate borrowers with it without needing to worry about all the business logic like HASHing the password or defining expiration dates for the card |
| 09:57 | i think it should be really easy for the tester to create text context without necessarily knowing how Koha internally works | |
| 09:58 | and TestBuilder to me is more like a passthrough to database columns. An elegant one :) | |
| 09:58 | + you need to worry about all the business rules for object creation ,or you easily get hard to trace bugs when you have to remeber and clone all the business logic in the test scripts | |
| 09:59 | Joubu | ok too much things. sorry was somewhere else ;) |
| 09:59 | kivilahtio | I know the feeling :) |
| 10:00 | Joubu | kivilahtio: don't worry about the password, if you don't need to know what is the password, TestBuilder does it for you (fill it with "somethinglongandrandompoueoptueoutou") |
| 10:00 | there is no stash context at the moment | |
| 10:00 | kivilahtio | but I cannot test password login if the password is not hashed properly |
| 10:00 | Joubu | we have some issues with the DB handler and the transactions |
| 10:00 | kivilahtio | and this is just one example of the issues when you bybass object constructors and directly access the DB |
| 10:01 | Joubu | there was a discussion some days/weeks ago with a DBIX dev, I should ask Tomas if there was something next |
| 10:01 | kivilahtio | Joubu: I don't think we are talking about the same issues |
| 10:04 | Joubu | kivilahtio: I thing so, it's related |
| 10:04 | (But I am doing 3 things at the same time) | |
| 10:05 | kivilahtio | but what do you think about using for ex C4::Members::AddMember via the TestBuilder? |
| 10:05 | Joubu | why/where? |
| 10:05 | kivilahtio | so we get te business logic rules |
| 10:05 | Joubu | TestBuilder is based on the DB structure and just fill fields and create FK |
| 10:05 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 10:06 | that answers my question :) | |
| 10:07 | Joubu | but what you can do, is create a common setup for several tests, then create data1 for test1 and data2 for test2 |
| 10:08 | kivilahtio | Joubu: how about Bug 13906? |
| 10:08 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, In Discussion , TestObjectFactory(ies) for Koha objects. Enable easy Test object creation from HASHes or from preconfigured test groups. |
| 10:09 | kivilahtio | the issue is that my TestFactories are tightly linked to Cucumber, And I need something which can be used in Selenium tests and REST API tests |
| 10:09 | and Cucumber tests | |
| 10:10 | And I was thinking if TestBuilder could be the glue, but you answered my question :) | |
| 10:11 | Joubu | I think a "factory" stuff should be based on top of testbuilder |
| 10:12 | and you assume branchcodes CPL, FFL and itype BK, VM exist, which is not a good idea | |
| 10:13 | kivilahtio | Joubu: Guilty as charged, it aint perfect either :) |
| 10:13 | But creating all those things for every test would be just too much work | |
| 10:13 | I think having a common test environment configuration is a good thing | |
| 10:14 | like branches, borrowercategories (erm. koha.categories), itemtypes, marcframeworks | |
| 10:15 | it is very hard to configure and understand tests if there is nothing common between them | |
| 10:15 | and I can always realte to CPL and FFL | |
| 10:15 | :) | |
| 10:16 | Joubu | "creating all those things for every test would be just too much work" => That's why TestBuilder exist :) |
| 10:17 | kivilahtio | Joubu: and we can also have the common default configurations |
| 10:17 | Joubu: so did you create the TestBuilder so we can get rid of using the default configuration branches, itemtypes, etc. ? | |
| 10:29 | Joubu | kivilahtio: the first idea was to simplify the tests |
| 10:29 | and not to care about all the stuffs you need to create an entity | |
| 10:30 | kivilahtio | I understand |
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| 12:05 | drojf | what do i do when git says a file needs a merge but there is no <<< >>> stuff in there? |
| 12:05 | i know i have not touched it, so it's not just that i forgot git add | |
| 12:06 | jcamins | drojf: view the patch you're trying to apply and manually add the changes. |
| 12:07 | drojf | jcamins: thanks, will do. luckily it's not a large file |
| 12:07 | ah! | |
| 12:08 | it's part of the opac prog theme. so it just has to go | |
| 12:08 | (old patch) | |
| 12:08 | jcamins | That'll do it. |
| 12:08 | drojf | or rather, be ported to bootstrap |
| 12:11 | Joubu | it also happens if you have already fixed the conflict and git rerere is enabled |
| 12:36 | drojf | hm ok i have problems submitting a patch too |
| 12:37 | works neither with or without -e for me | |
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| 12:39 | tcohen | morning |
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| 12:50 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 12:50 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 12:50 | huginn` | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.9°C (9:50 AM ART on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:52 | drojf | mtompsett++ |
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| 13:17 | misilot | Can Koha check for barcodes with too many digits? |
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| 14:06 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14303: Fix item search CSV export - obsolete "by" and display of publication... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bf897e2d77132296a> / Bug 14428: Remove C4::Input <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b9a76b1618fb0add0> / Bug 14496: Improving opac-detail.pl performances <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g |
| 14:13 | tcohen | a RM should have the power to invoke oleonard so he's back |
| 14:16 | drojf | tcohen: +1 |
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| 14:58 | AmitG | hello indradg |
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| 15:19 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:22 | Joubu | khall: it seems you forgot to update the status of bug 9006 |
| 15:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9006 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , autoload in C4::Context is a bad idea |
| 15:22 | khall | thanks! I'm having gt-bz issues |
| 15:23 | Joubu | khall: yep same here |
| 15:23 | AmitG | hi Joubu, khall |
| 15:23 | khall | hi! |
| 15:24 | bag | heya khall and Joubu |
| 15:25 | khall | mornin! |
| 15:25 | * bag | only here for a sec (just saying hi) |
| 15:25 | AmitG | heya bag |
| 15:25 | bag | hi AmitG |
| 15:26 | Joubu | hello all :) |
| 15:42 | nengard | Hi all |
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| 15:59 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 16:16 | tcohen | Joubu khall: hi |
| 16:16 | khall | hi tcohen! |
| 16:16 | Joubu | tcohen: o/ |
| 16:17 | tcohen | i'm looking at Koha::Logger |
| 16:17 | looks awesome | |
| 16:17 | :-D | |
| 16:18 | khall | thanks! |
| 16:19 | bag | sweet :) |
| 16:21 | tcohen | later #koha, have to run to the to-be house |
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| 16:38 | Joubu | khall: bug 11194 SO or PQA? :) |
| 16:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11194 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Signed Off , Add a new index for "Edition Statement" of a MARC Record |
| 16:39 | khall | I didn't mean to pqa that one |
| 16:40 | Joubu | khall: you switched to PQA then SO, and there is your signed-off-by line on the last patch attached |
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| 17:14 | Joubu | have a good week-end #koha! |
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