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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:06 | BobB | yeah, if he'd stuck around he would got help |
| 00:07 | but not from Wahanui :) | |
| 00:07 | ibeardslee | can wahanui recognise new people and tell them not to be in a rush to expect an immediate response? |
| 00:07 | dcook | Although he might be a bit doomed using CentOS anyway :p |
| 00:08 | BobB | that's the advice he could have got :) |
| 00:08 | dcook | Hehe. That's true! |
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| 02:45 | * Francesca | waves |
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| 03:22 | eythian | tcohen: yo |
| 03:24 | tcohen | hi eythian |
| 03:24 | eythian | tcohen: don't think I'm going to use the zebraqueue for ES, it'll cause problems if you want it there as a z39.50 server. |
| 03:26 | also, new master packages uploading | |
| 03:26 | wow, slow internet day today | |
| 03:28 | Francesca | rangi you around? |
| 03:28 | rangi | yep |
| 03:28 | tcohen | eythian: i always thought we should rename it indexing_queue or something like that |
| 03:29 | not that I care too much | |
| 03:29 | rangi | its more that if we overload it, we have to add another status |
| 03:29 | eythian | tcohen: yeah, I like that in principle, however if we were to do that, we'd have to use a real queue somewhere so that it can have multiple consumers |
| 03:29 | rangi | indexed by es, indexed by zebra |
| 03:29 | yeah | |
| 03:29 | tcohen | i've been thinking of setting multiple zebra processes |
| 03:29 | so was thinking how to rethink that queue | |
| 03:29 | rangi | rabbitmq, or gearman or something that does queueing and job control |
| 03:30 | tcohen | by the minute i got brendan's question |
| 03:30 | about it | |
| 03:30 | rangi | i wouldnt queue it in the db, the way we do now |
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| 03:39 | tcohen | rangi: sounds great |
| 03:41 | night #koha | |
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| 04:24 | Francesca | hey rangi sorry I didn't end up coming on friday |
| 04:24 | I was sick | |
| 04:24 | rangi | no worries |
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| 05:34 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:39 | cait | hi eythian |
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| 06:28 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:38 | indradg | hi all |
| 06:38 | @seen cait | |
| 06:38 | huginn` | indradg: cait was last seen in #koha 59 minutes and 11 seconds ago: <cait> hi eythian |
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| 06:45 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:48 | magnuse | ooh, we have competition for kohacon16! |
| 07:00 | * dcook | wouldn't mind going back to Greece ;) |
| 07:02 | * magnuse | has been to Crete twice, wouldn't mind seeing other parts |
| 07:02 | dcook | Mmm, loved Crete |
| 07:02 | My legs didn't thank me after walking the Samaria Gorge though O_O | |
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| 07:03 | dcook | In any case, I better run! |
| 07:03 | Ciao, European folks! | |
| 07:03 | magnuse | run dcook run |
| 07:03 | a movie by Tom Tykwer | |
| 07:03 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:28 | magnuse | kia ora cait - back from holiday? |
| 07:31 | cait | yeah, I am afraid so |
| 07:37 | magnuse | never long enough, eh? :-) |
| 07:39 | cait | never |
| 07:39 | i have a feeling i will spend the day reading emails | |
| 07:43 | magnuse | probably |
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| 08:31 | indradg | thanks cait L) |
| 08:32 | cait | mlß |
| 08:32 | ml? | |
| 08:32 | indradg | yeah |
| 08:32 | cait | np :) |
| 08:43 | magnuse | cait++ |
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| 12:18 | cait | @seem andreas |
| 12:18 | huginn` | cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 12:18 | cait | @seen andreas |
| 12:18 | huginn` | cait: I have not seen andreas. |
| 12:18 | cait | @seen andreash |
| 12:18 | huginn` | cait: I have not seen andreash. |
| 12:18 | cait | hmmm |
| 12:18 | @seen oleonard | |
| 12:18 | huginn` | cait: oleonard was last seen in #koha 15 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours, 23 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on. |
| 12:18 | cait | @andreashm |
| 12:18 | huginn` | cait: downloading the Perl source |
| 12:18 | cait | @seen andreashm |
| 12:18 | huginn` | cait: andreashm was last seen in #koha 1 week, 4 days, 20 hours, 47 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <andreashm> ashimema++ |
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| 13:31 | cait | Greece++ :) |
| 13:33 | kivilahtio | can anybody tell me why Issues are Issues instead of Lendings/Loans? |
| 13:33 | We have Serial Issues/Magazines. I also have Issues. | |
| 13:33 | So when I talk about my Issues, that doesn't make sense? | |
| 13:33 | we also have branches and libraries? | |
| 13:33 | is tehre a discussion about that? | |
| 13:34 | Can I use Lendings instead of Issues? | |
| 13:34 | or Loans ? which is more confortable in real life than Issues? | |
| 13:34 | cait | because the nz word for loan/checkout is issue |
| 13:34 | kivilahtio | We also have Issues in our ISsue tracker |
| 13:34 | cait | checkouts are only done in hotels there |
| 13:35 | lendings i have never heard of | |
| 13:35 | i'd prefer t stick with the english gui language and use checkouts | |
| 13:35 | kivilahtio | I just browsed our library terms dictionary |
| 13:35 | checkuts is good | |
| 13:36 | cait | loans might also exist, but i think using something we already use woudl be good |
| 13:36 | kivilahtio | just getting increasingly Issued with Issues. |
| 13:36 | cait | i am also against issues to not confuse with serials |
| 13:36 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
| 13:36 | kivilahtio | thanks cait! |
| 13:36 | cait | for branches and libraries - there was a discussion |
| 13:36 | branches applies some kind of hierarchy | |
| 13:36 | which doesn't apply to consortia | |
| 13:36 | they don't want to be a 'branch' of... x | |
| 13:37 | library is more general - the gui should always be using library now i think | |
| 13:37 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 13:37 | thanks for the tip | |
| 13:37 | cait | no guarantees - but that's how i remember it :) |
| 13:37 | kivilahtio | do we have a agreed terminology somewheere? |
| 13:37 | cait | yep |
| 13:37 | kivilahtio | because we just started one in KohaFinland |
| 13:37 | cait | at least i thought so, let me check |
| 13:37 | kivilahtio | I would like to map our terms to Koha-English counterparts |
| 13:38 | cait | hm there is PERL7 |
| 13:38 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines | |
| 13:38 | but it misses some of the thigns we have worked towards to in the gui | |
| 13:40 | I remember a longer list, might have gotten lost | |
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| 13:54 | ashimema | anyone out there using an IPSec based vpn for their koha box? |
| 13:57 | cait | no idea |
| 13:58 | kivilahtio | ashimema: sounds cool |
| 14:03 | ashimema | it's 'interesting' |
| 14:03 | good way to encrypt your sip traffic.. but I've not worked out how to do it yet ;) | |
| 14:04 | kivilahtio | ashimema: sounds like a good idea. |
| 14:04 | ashimema: Even better would be to completely redesign the Koha's SIP Server. Not sure if we could do it better tho... | |
| 14:05 | ashimema: are there issues with vpn and SIP Server? | |
| 14:07 | ashimema | are there? |
| 14:07 | IPSec is just a VPN solution.. | |
| 14:07 | kivilahtio | no idea. I am wondering why you are asking if there arent any? |
| 14:08 | ashimema | can't see how redesignign the SIP server would help.. encryption isn't in the SIP spec.. so you'de be breaking the stnadard is you added encrpyption directly to the server ;) |
| 14:09 | hense why we tunnel it.. often via an ssh tunnel in our case.. | |
| 14:09 | cait | i think the standard doesn't have encryption |
| 14:09 | ashimema | but I'm certainly interesteing in the VPN route that one of our customers is wanting. |
| 14:09 | cait | so the sip server is not to blame |
| 14:09 | ashimema | ;) |
| 14:09 | that's what I was typing there cait | |
| 14:09 | cait | the sip server works failry well even, we hardly see any problems ever |
| 14:09 | just some things we could do a little better i guess or more things to implement | |
| 14:10 | oh, saw it now *blushes* | |
| 14:10 | * cait | runs off |
| 14:13 | kivilahtio | well I agree the SIP servers works well. |
| 14:13 | but it is a bit hard to get into | |
| 14:14 | well, point taken | |
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| 15:09 | bag | morning |
| 15:19 | * chris_n | blinks and looks around |
| 15:28 | kivilahtio | bag: evening |
| 15:28 | bag | heh evening kivilahtio |
| 15:28 | cait | hi bag |
| 15:29 | bag | hi cait |
| 15:29 | kivilahtio | so funny |
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| 15:50 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:40 | cait | back |
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| 17:43 | * magnuse | waves again |
| 17:48 | * nengard | waves back |
| 17:53 | * magnuse | waves specifically at nengard |
| 17:54 | nengard | :) |
| 17:54 | so sweet | |
| 17:56 | magnuse | mikkel, our almost-6-month-old puffindog waves too |
| 18:01 | nengard | awwwwwwww |
| 18:03 | magnuse | hm, we should start pushing pics of him to flickr |
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| 18:52 | magnuse | hm, feels like whenever i edit a syspref in a textarea, my changes are not picked up and the "save" button is not activated. anyone else seeing that? i'm on 3.18.7 |
| 18:53 | pianohacker | magnuse: does clicking outside the textbox activate the save button? |
| 18:53 | cait: working on a new set of patches including the system preference and new test plan | |
| 18:53 | magnuse | don't think so |
| 18:53 | pianohacker | odd, it does on mine, though I am on master |
| 18:53 | cait | magnuse: yep me too |
| 18:53 | could you file a bug? | |
| 18:53 | htought i was going a little crazy :) | |
| 18:53 | magnuse | but it did get activated while i was reporting the problem here... |
| 18:54 | cait | a change doesn't activate it every time |
| 18:54 | it's really annoying | |
| 18:54 | pianohacker | odd |
| 18:54 | cait | pianohacker: could you update the bug? it was a question from someone really interested in it :) |
| 18:55 | * magnuse | reports the bug |
| 18:55 | pianohacker | cait: will do, soon soon, meeting-heavy day :) |
| 18:55 | cait | magnuse: i think i saw it on master too... |
| 18:55 | magnuse | cait: have you seen it on master? |
| 18:55 | ah | |
| 18:57 | pianohacker | magnuse: assign it to me? There are some lingering issues with sysprefs that I need to fix, and that should be one of them |
| 18:58 | magnuse | bug 14389 |
| 18:58 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14389 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Editing a syspref in a textarea does not ednable the Save button |
| 18:58 | magnuse | pianohacker: awesome, will do! |
| 18:59 | pianohacker | thanks :) |
| 19:00 | magnuse | done |
| 19:00 | ednable. gah! | |
| 19:00 | cait | huh? |
| 19:01 | magnuse | i typhoed |
| 19:02 | pianohacker | cait: side effect of bringing in rancor, we get a syntax-highlighting editor for sysprefs like that ;) |
| 19:02 | well, not direct side effect, but we get the necessary library ;) | |
| 19:06 | cait: also, my message 22 minutes ago was re: your later about rancor from 3-4 days ago | |
| 19:06 | cait | i know :) |
| 19:07 | pianohacker: tihnk about adding not too much to the initial patch please | |
| 19:07 | often worth having a separate feature separate | |
| 19:07 | would be good to get some solid base tested soon | |
| 19:09 | pianohacker | cait: oh, heavens no, this would be a separate bug |
| 19:09 | cait | good heh |
| 19:11 | * magnuse | cheers rancor on |
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| 19:35 | cait | hm no tcohen today? |
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| 20:00 | cait | @later tell marcelr could you take a look at bug 14370? Looking for additional opinions and you had opened a similar one |
| 20:00 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:26 | wizzyrea | cait, magnuse: that thing in sysprefs is a long standing issue I usually toss a space in there to activate the button, it's something to do with javascript not picking up paste operations as a keystroke |
| 21:26 | cait | i think they tried to fix that |
| 21:26 | now it got worse | |
| 21:26 | space is not enough | |
| 21:26 | not for me at least | |
| 21:27 | and typing it in, not pasting | |
| 21:27 | i had it when testing the unwantedfields one recently | |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | I hadn't noticed it getting worse and I've been dinking around with 3.18 quite a bit lately. |
| 21:28 | but I believe you if you say it is. | |
| 21:28 | pianohacker | new rancor patches! bug 11559 |
| 21:28 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface |
| 21:28 | cait | woohoo |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea: i think it def changed - I know the bug you mean, but it seems a bit different now | |
| 21:30 | we made some changes there for 3.18... but can't find the bug | |
| 21:31 | bugs... always hiding when you start looking for one | |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | 11464 |
| 21:33 | bug 11464 | |
| 21:33 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11464 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Saving preferences - Nothing to Save |
| 21:34 | pianohacker | dangit :/ yeah, of course, it should be $(...).on('keyup, change') |
| 21:34 | Joubu's fix in that bug will solve some problems but create others | |
| 21:34 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:34 | pianohacker | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | git_log++ |
| 21:34 | cait | heh |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | git knows everything :P |
| 21:35 | cait | true |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | it is definitely hinky in 3.18.06+ |
| 21:37 | pianohacker | cait: open new bug or reopen? |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | ah, open a new one |
| 21:37 | cait | pianohacker: i think maybe use magnus' one and link? |
| 21:37 | pianohacker | ah, right |
| 21:52 | cait/wizzyrea/magnuse: bug 14389 | |
| 21:52 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14389 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Editing a syspref in a textarea does not enable the Save button |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 21:53 | cait | pianohacker++ |
| 21:54 | pianohacker | seems like a good note to end on :) good night all |
| 21:54 | rangi | pianohacker++ |
| 21:54 | cait | night pianohacker :) |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | gnite pianohacker |
| 21:54 | rangi | if that can get pushed in the next few days, it can make 3.20.1 |
| 21:54 | pianohacker | woot! |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | A+ excellent bugfixing for 3.20 |
| 22:30 | eythian | hi |
| 22:31 | cait | hi eythian |
| 22:31 | night all | |
| 22:31 | wahanui | goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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