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| 02:58 | bag | hey |
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| 04:13 | cdickinson | man, the official Puppet Apache module actually is not as well made as I thought |
| 04:22 | indradg | good morning #koha |
| 05:15 | mtompset | indradg: Night... I should be sleeping. ;) |
| 05:15 | indradg | mtompset: g'night |
| 05:16 | mtompset | Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha indradg. |
| 05:42 | BobB | hi indradg |
| 05:42 | indradg | hiya BobB |
| 05:43 | BobB | I've got that real Friday afternoon feeling today :) |
| 05:44 | indradg | heh... the day's still young for me in India.... but still in the best of moods... had rains after 3 weeks of heatwave |
| 05:44 | @wunder kolkata | |
| 05:44 | huginn | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 33.0°C (10:50 AM IST on June 12, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:46 | BobB | @wunder Sydney, Australia |
| 05:46 | huginn | BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (3:30 PM AEST on June 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:46 | BobB | winter here |
| 05:46 | if we can call it that | |
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| 05:54 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:02 | Francesca | hey |
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| 06:20 | bag | magnuse: I send knuckles |
| 06:33 | magnuse | bag: i send knuckles back |
| 06:33 | and HI | |
| 06:33 | wahanui | bonjour, magnuse |
| 06:33 | magnuse | 3331 words left... |
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| 06:34 | magnuse | bgkriegel++ for making translations easier |
| 06:34 | namoshkaar indradg | |
| 06:35 | indradg | :) magnuse |
| 06:36 | * indradg | 's brain is still too sleepy to parse locale shifts :D |
| 06:36 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:36 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:37 | magnuse | double digits - who needs 'em? |
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| 06:41 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:41 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
| 06:44 | Viktor | Hi #koha |
| 06:47 | indradg | hi Viktor, reiveune |
| 06:47 | Viktor | Hi indradg! |
| 06:47 | reiveune | salut indradg Viktor magnuse dcook__ |
| 06:48 | * indradg | waves |
| 06:48 | Viktor | salut reiveune |
| 06:50 | Is there some trick i don't know with the public JSON reports in Koha? Got things working fine with Pipes from Yahoo but the same .getJSON won't work with a public report. | |
| 06:52 | Checking network actions it returns 200 and it's loaded in the browser ok (I can see the data) but it refuses to actually work and nothing after .getJSON is parsed | |
| 06:54 | (Using pipes to get headlines of librarys two blog into the Opac. Now trying to use a public report to give extra data in the staff mainpage) | |
| 06:54 | magnuse | anything in the javascript console? |
| 06:55 | Viktor | No. It complained about same origin until I did the same thing as with pipes and added &_callback=? |
| 06:56 | pastebot | "Viktor" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "This code lives in intranetuserjs-syspref" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/142 |
| 06:56 | Viktor | (And if I stick the Pipes URL from the blogs it at least gives something) |
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| 06:57 | Viktor | (Placeholder is there from syspref Intranetmainuserblock |
| 06:58 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:58 | Viktor | There's a rule that getJSON fails silently with invalid JSON, but I think [["373"]] should not be invalid. |
| 07:00 | (Also tried with &annotated=1 if that would be the case, but still nothing..) | |
| 07:01 | This use case is not important per se. But I'd like to be able to expose other data from public reports and make nice graphs for the staff with something like https://github.com/mbostock/d3 | |
| 07:02 | But need to be able to make at least this basic level 0 stuff work first :) | |
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| 07:04 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:04 | wahanui | hi, gaetan_B |
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| 08:06 | kivilahtio | does anybody know what this perl liner means? |
| 08:06 | die "Can't exec: $!" if !$ENV{HYPNOTOAD_REV}++ && !exec $^X, $ENV{HYPNOTOAD_EXE}; | |
| 08:07 | especially $^X ?? | |
| 08:10 | hmm, apparently $^X == '/usr/bin/perl' | |
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| 09:14 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
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| 09:26 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 09:35 | kivilahtio | hi droj! |
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| 09:40 | drojf | hi kivilahtio |
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| 10:25 | AmitG | @bug 6810 |
| 10:25 | huginn` | AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Send membership expiry reminder notices |
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| 10:53 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 11:01 | Viktor | Found out the problem with fetching public reports with ajax. To use the callback hack to get around same origin policy it needs to be JSONP but Koha outputs regular JSON. |
| 11:02 | magnuse | so there is no way to solve it (except for a patch)? |
| 11:02 | Viktor | Thanks to magnuse++ for helping out and to xarragon++ for solving the whole thing and helping me use the solution to write something that workds |
| 11:03 | magnuse | how do you make it work? pipes? |
| 11:03 | Viktor | magnuse: Yes we use our own proxy (built for Samsök) |
| 11:04 | magnuse | kewl |
| 11:04 | maybe report a bug that the reports should do JSONP? | |
| 11:04 | Viktor | magnuse: That would be useful :) |
| 11:05 | magnuse | or at least it might save some one else some time |
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| 11:05 | Viktor | Or is there a nicer way to get JSON data from the reports? Even without making them public? |
| 11:06 | If reports would handle the parameter callback to convert to JSONP then problem would be solved :) | |
| 11:13 | xarragon | You could also just build in basic proxy functionality into Koha I guess.. |
| 11:13 | Or templating support for reports to wrap it with the JSON padding. | |
| 11:14 | magnuse | why do you need a proxy? because public reports are in the opac and the opac and intranet are on different domains= |
| 11:14 | s/=/?/ | |
| 11:17 | Viktor | Spot on - same origin applies even to different ports. |
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| 11:18 | Viktor | So it won't work even if you do :8080 for the staff interface. |
| 11:18 | xarragon | One could expose the public reports through OPAC I guess (still a patch though). |
| 11:18 | Or maybe that is already working? I actually did not check. | |
| 11:20 | Viktor | Hm. They are exposed at the opac domain as is. That's why we ran into trouble with using the data in staff I guess. |
| 11:21 | I guess it would work better for visualizing data in report on the opac side(?) | |
| 11:21 | Without a proxy | |
| 11:28 | xarragon | Yes.. just do a regular loadJSON call then, no need for the JSONP wrapping and the proxy.. Less complexity, faster load times etc. |
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| 11:31 | Viktor | Oooh - xarragon just made me try to access the report from the staff domain! |
| 11:32 | Turns out the reports are available from both domains. And the need for magic JSONP stuff to hack same origin is gone! :) | |
| 11:32 | xarragon++ | |
| 11:33 | magnuse | yay |
| 11:38 | kivilahtio | I see somebody has refactored the C4::Circulation::AddIssue() and now it returns a DBIx::Issue-object, but why doesn't it return a Koha::Issue-object inherited from Koha::Object? |
| 11:39 | I thought we were supposed to refactor towards Koha::Object pattern instead of DBIx? | |
| 11:39 | DBIx is fine and dandly, but the date/timestamp-columns are as plain text, not as DateTimes as they should be (like with the Koha::Issue) | |
| 11:40 | now every time we need to display those date/timestamps we need to instantiate a new DateTime-object, instead of referenceing an existing object from Koha::Issue. | |
| 11:47 | also the function documentation has not been updated to reflect changes | |
| 11:49 | xarragon | Sounds like someone has been naughty. |
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| 11:54 | kivilahtio | xarragon: Bug 13315 changed an entire core function as a part of a somewhat unrelated feature |
| 11:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13315 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Add feedback for last item checked out to circulation.pl |
| 11:54 | kivilahtio | but back then I guess Koha::Object was not agreed upon as mandatory, tho it had existed already for 2 months. |
| 11:55 | cait | kivilahtio: the koha object is not in for long yet... but sounds strange anyway |
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| 11:55 | kivilahtio | cait: well you signed it off :) |
| 11:56 | cait | uhoh |
| 11:56 | but yeha i think that might predate the push of koha object... although not entirely sure | |
| 11:56 | kivilahtio | well ill just rebase jmjs, REST API tests around this mishpa |
| 11:56 | Koha:Object was pushed this february | |
| 11:57 | cait | if there is something to improve, wroth a note |
| 11:57 | kivilahtio | this monster patch 13315 changing out-of-scope code was pushed april |
| 11:57 | so I guess it explains it but I feel bad doing stupid rework | |
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| 11:57 | kivilahtio | well it's not the only place in Koha where datetimes are unnecessarily casted |
| 11:58 | cait | the patch was started in december - i think that's why |
| 11:58 | also we don't enforce anything yet | |
| 11:58 | kivilahtio | really? |
| 11:58 | cait | we are trying to phase out Koha::Dates currently tho... so maybe that will help a little with the date mess |
| 11:58 | kivilahtio | anyway, no point in beating a dead horse |
| 11:58 | have fun | |
| 11:59 | ill rebase test plan | |
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| 13:00 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 13:00 | indradg | hi mtompset |
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| 13:05 | drojf | hmm viktor and magnuse are gone. i remember i made koha output JASONP at some point. not sure what project that was for and if that still exists. but the problem seems to be solved anyway |
| 13:05 | JSONP even | |
| 13:07 | mtompset | reports? |
| 13:07 | wahanui | reports is probably http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 13:07 | mtompset | The header format for public reports. |
| 13:07 | xarragon | Well.. you would need it for cross-domain requests; if someone wanted to pull data from AJAX from another domain. |
| 13:07 | drojf | oh i remember. i made a firefox os app check for new titles in koha. mozilla gave me a phone for that :) |
| 13:08 | cait | xarragon: i tihnk you already figured it out - but how the report is accessible depends on the public/nonpublic setting |
| 13:08 | over which domain | |
| 13:10 | xarragon | cait: Yeah it is solved, the only trouble we had was that cross-domain also includes querying between OPAC/Staff. Victor pulled data from OPAC, I assumed he was pulling it into OPAC, but he did it from staff.. So we had to work around the crossdomain stuff. |
| 13:11 | I got lost in the technical details of JSONP since I had not encountered it before, forgot to ask the obvious question of why we needed crossdomain at all. | |
| 13:11 | ashimema | any github users here using 'hub' atop thier git.. |
| 13:12 | looks mighty useful | |
| 13:12 | jsonp is cool | |
| 13:12 | xarragon | The reports module is _awesome_ though. Do you realize how much interesting reporting can be made with that plus some AJAX:y visualization library? |
| 13:13 | ashimema | xarragon: bug 13219 might interest you |
| 13:13 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13219 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Add graphs to guided reports |
| 13:13 | xarragon | with sufficient categorization of the biblio items, you could see which categories of books are being lent the most during different times of the year |
| 13:13 | ashimema | certainly could |
| 13:13 | carmen | hello #koha :) |
| 13:14 | ashimema | as for cros domain.. think about other products you have that might want access to koha's data.. |
| 13:14 | xarragon | huginn`: Intereting, I was planning to brush up my jquery skills this weekend. I could use that to play around a bit |
| 13:14 | huginn` | xarragon: I suck |
| 13:14 | ashimema | a reading list solution for instance, that want to display the record from koha.. unless you have cross domain (CORS or JSONP) you couldn't use it ;) |
| 13:14 | xarragon | *facepalm* |
| 13:14 | hello bot | |
| 13:14 | drojf | i should have put the patch for jsonp into bugzilla, i think i don't have it anymore :/ |
| 13:15 | ashimema | huginn is a bot.. |
| 13:15 | he just spat out the bug I threw at you ;) | |
| 13:15 | xarragon | yeah, I realized :-) |
| 13:15 | ashimema | it's a trivial change I imagine.. |
| 13:15 | just wrap the json response in a callback | |
| 13:15 | drojf | i think it was |
| 13:15 | anyway doing work twice is not very efficient ;) | |
| 13:16 | xarragon | Literally all you need is '_(' before and ')' after, depending on your ajax frontend |
| 13:16 | Or well, a configurable parameter if it is going to be flexible.. | |
| 13:17 | All that it does it inject that code into the <script> tag in the document at which points it calls the function. | |
| 13:18 | Havn't gone in and debugged it line by line yet though. It is an.. interesting solution. Not sure about full security implications of it. | |
| 13:20 | ashimema | it's a pretty standard thing these days |
| 13:21 | xarragon | Yeah, it's just me having been out of web programming for a few years. |
| 13:21 | ashimema | basically.. if your requesting a jsonp response, you're suggesting you trust the place your requesting it from.. |
| 13:21 | it doesn't really provide any security around it as far as I'm aware. | |
| 13:21 | xarragon | I wonder if you can perform a HTTP request from a HTTPS domain that way? |
| 13:22 | ashimema | I think the browse will still complain in that case ;) |
| 13:22 | but i may be wrong | |
| 13:22 | xarragon | I hope so. |
| 13:22 | I might test just for the heck o fit. | |
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| 13:22 | ashimema | I would however suggest only using jsonp over https.. |
| 13:23 | else your assumption that your trusted resource can be trusted is wrong.. as without https your wide open to man in the middle injection ;) | |
| 13:23 | xarragon | Well, if you wanted to see inside a HTTPS connection and could insert random JS via non-HTTPS-call, that would allow you to scoop out the goodies. |
| 13:24 | ashimema: yes, exactly.. Hence why I was curious about a mixed HTTPS/HTTP scenario and whether the browser cried foul in that case | |
| 13:24 | ashimema | indeed it would |
| 13:24 | :) | |
| 13:24 | xarragon | But I need to focus on building things, not breaking them |
| 13:24 | ashimema | CORS is actually a slightly nicer solution.. |
| 13:24 | but I'm not entirely up to date on it's inner workings. | |
| 13:25 | http://enable-cors.org/ | |
| 13:25 | in effect cors allows you to setup two way trust relationships between domains.. so cross origin goes away :) | |
| 13:26 | xarragon | Yeah.. like that old crossdomain.xml solution for Flash |
| 13:26 | ashimema | yup |
| 13:26 | very similar | |
| 13:27 | xarragon | Still, I am a man who surfs with Noscript and Policeman enabled. Enabling cross-domain requests is.. slightly evil ffor me. |
| 13:29 | ashimema | lol.. |
| 13:29 | indeed | |
| 13:29 | if your surfing with those then you'd be mighty wary of cross domain ;) | |
| 13:30 | xarragon | Still, officially declared policy is better than hidden proxy. |
| 13:30 | Because the latter is very hard to filter out automatically compared to the former. | |
| 13:32 | ashimema | deffo |
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| 13:53 | bxlrc | Hi! Quick q: does anyone know how the language fallback system works in Koha? I've now got English, fr-FR and nl-BE installed, but the nl-BE one is incomplete. However, instead of falling back to 'en', it falls back to 'fr-FR'. All suggestions to fix this are welcomed! |
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| 14:36 | bxlrc | seems that the nl-NL translation, though on file much smaller, is much better. Uninstalling nl-BE and installing nl-NL makes that it suddenly falls back to english. I get the idea that the nl-BE translation is broken, or maybe some country setting makes that the wrong language is selected for nl-BE.. |
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| 15:02 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:01 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 17:59 | tcohen | hi |
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| 18:10 | tcohen | ok |
| 18:10 | * barton | waves to #koha |
| 18:11 | tcohen | hi barton |
| 18:11 | barton | hey, question about the auto-renew feature -- is there any guard against renewing items that are accruing fines? |
| 18:12 | if not, I may have uncovered a serious bug. | |
| 18:12 | tcohen | barton: I think it depends on your circ policy |
| 18:15 | barton | I think that it's causing duplicate fines: due date changes; due date is used in accountlines description, and is used to look up fines, but we don't update accountlines when we change the date. It's the same type of issue we were seeing with dateformat. |
| 18:18 | ... that's just a hunch ... I've found a couple of fines that differ only by the due date -- I started thinking about what might have changed recently in koha that would change the due date, and that's what popped into my head. | |
| 18:19 | so ... this needs more research, but I wanted to say something. | |
| 18:32 | tcohen | barton: it is great that you spotted a possible bug, please dig a bit more and fill a bug report |
| 18:34 | barton | tcohen: oh, defintely. |
| 18:41 | yeah, that was defintiely not in liu of a bug report ... I just wanted to bring the issue to the attention of the community quickly. | |
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| 18:58 | tcohen | barton: holds policy are subject to possible issues too |
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| 20:59 | barton | @seen tcohen |
| 20:59 | huginn` | barton: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 hours and 55 seconds ago: <tcohen> barton: holds policy are subject to possible issues too |
| 21:01 | barton | tcohen -- filed Bug 14380 |
| 21:01 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Overriding fine on renewal will cause duplicate fines |
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