IRC log for #koha, 2015-06-08

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00:36 mtompset joined #koha
00:37 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:37 @later tell tcohen That PEGI 15 failure reminds me of a timezone issue in the code. I recall finding and fixing it, but I forgot to submit it. :)
00:37 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
00:52 cait hey mtompset
00:52 wahanui rumour has it mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry
00:52 cait you scared us a bit with that comment
00:52 is everything ok?
00:52 mtompset Yes, but I didn't want people to think I was slacking on that bug. :)
00:52 Well, no, because I'm sure there are going to be huge financial implications as yet to be realized.
00:53 But yes, everyone is alive and okay.
00:53 Still a little shaken by it.
00:54 Annoyed (the person drove off without giving information) and shaken (because getting close calls like that is scary).
00:57 cait :(
00:58 hope things will turn out ok
00:59 mtompset I got the license correct
00:59 So, the police will be following up with the other person at their address.
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00:59 mtompset Leaving the scene of an accident does not bode well for them.
01:08 cait aah
01:08 good you got the license
01:19 mtompset There... found the PEGI 15 error again.
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01:23 cait1 huh
01:25 mtompset The failed tests on U14.
01:25 I found where they occur again.
01:25 Don't know if this patch is right, but it will work. :)
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01:32 mtompset indradg: Can you test something for me?
01:32 Start up any koha dev system and just 'prove -v t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t'
01:33 I believe it should work for you.
01:33 indradg mtompset: checking
01:34 mtompset: yes.. it clears
01:34 mtompset Do you know how to change your timezone to EST/EDT?
01:34 (i.e. my timezone)
01:36 I suspect if you change to my timezone and run the same thing it will fail.
01:36 eythian mtompset: you just need to move.
01:36 problem solved.
01:37 mtompset tell that to all the libraries in the wrong time zone. :P
01:40 bug 13462
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13462 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, I18N system preferences language/opaclanguages descriptions need an update
01:40 mtompset Oops... wrong one.
01:40 bug 14362
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14362 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , PEGI 15 Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers test fails
01:41 mtompset And indradg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
01:42 indradg mtompset: i know how to do that... the only way I can have my servers in US and France show me IST :D
01:43 mtompset I didn't. Just thought I'd share, just in case. :)
01:44 indradg mtompset: yes.. you are right... changed to Eastern time.. and boom! test 7 fails
01:44 mtompset It's something related to Date_to_Days(Today) not account for, or including, timezone.
01:45 indradg hmm
01:49 mtompset That's why I switched it with my own built date, and it works.
02:05 mtj hey eythian, ive noticed that  ./debian/build-git-snapshot still uses 'squeeze-dev' as a default distribution...
02:05 squeeze-dev doesnt seem to be a valid value, and create some warnings
02:06 is it a bug, of sorts?
02:08 if someone was attempting to build a 3.18 koha pkg, on deb6 via pbuilder
02:08 ... would 'squeeze-dev' be the best option there... or oldstable?
02:10 i'm kinda thinking 'oldstable' myself... but thought id ask
02:19 would a general default of 'stable' be better than 'squeeze-dev'?
02:25 wizzyrea pretty sure he's got this already in his mind
02:25 one of many things he'd like to do
02:28 mtj hey wizzyrea
02:28 wahanui wizzyrea is silly
02:28 wizzyrea wahanui: forget wizzyrea
02:28 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot wizzyrea
02:30 ibeardslee heh
02:31 mtj no probs, im not quite sure how important the --distro value is at the mo
02:36 mtompset Greetings, mtj wizzyrea ibeardslee
02:37 I was pondering... is there a nice way to loop through the timezones in perl?
02:39 ibeardslee it's perl, bound to be
02:39 .. well maybe not nice ;)
02:40 our perl guru says 'no, .. what does loop through timezones even mean?'
02:40 * ibeardslee reads through scrollback to get some context
02:43 mtj http://search.cpan.org/dist/Da[…]teTime::TimeZone->all_names
02:44 mtompset:  ^ perhaps?
02:45 mtompset it means change the system time to "24" differing timezones and test time related tests again. :)
02:45 bug 14362
02:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14362 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , PEGI 15 Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers test fails
02:46 mtompset It would be nice to add some kind of regression test into the mix, not just a testable fix.
02:57 mtj but pass, i dont really understand the Q either
02:58 mtompset right now, if there is a difference in day between your timezone and UTC, the PEGI 15 test will fail.
02:59 as soon as they are the same day... no issues.
02:59 I would like to run the pegi 15 test for all 24 major timezones, because regardless of timezone the test shouldn't fail.
03:02 or "loop through timezones". :)
03:02 Does that clarify, mtj?
03:04 mtj why not convert your time to UTC-0, before the comparision?
03:05 ah, that wouldnt fix it, for some timezones..
03:05 hmm, pass, atm
03:08 perhaps the PEGI time needs to be converted to your local timezone
03:10 mtompset No, my patch works.
03:10 mtj ..in the .test.t , before its compared to your local time
03:10 mtompset I just want to have multi-timezone regression testing.
03:11 kind of hard to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' in a perl script. :)
03:14 mtj sounds awesome, btw ^
03:15 .. but having the test work for the system's current timezone is probably good enough :)
03:16 mtompset mtj: no, because then it won't catch this error, which I patched. ;)
03:16 found a nice shell command.
03:16 timedatectl
03:20 * wizzyrea thought you were talking about flying dinosaurs there for a moment
03:23 mtompset wizzyrea++ # good sense of humour. :)
03:23 Time::Fake!
03:23 wizzyrea it's really just bad reading comprehension :P
03:24 mtompset +1 for overlapping areas. :)
03:26 mtj mtompset: curious, does the test fail after your patch is applied?
03:26 mtompset No. :)
03:27 I tested mine (fails without), india and philippines (both successful currently)
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03:28 mtj ..ah ok, looks like a well-spotted bug then :0)
03:28 mtompset But it wouldn't always be spotted.
03:29 It just happened to be one of the failed tests in the latest U14 Jenkins run.
03:29 I recalled finding and fixing it before.
03:29 Never submitted the patch.
03:29 I'm amending the error of my ways. :)
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04:00 Francesca sup
04:04 indradg kia ora!
04:04 hi Francesca
04:04 and everyone who is around :)
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04:06 indradg hi aleisha
04:06 aleisha hi indradg
04:07 Francesca hi aleisha
04:07 aleisha hiii Francesca
04:07 Francesca hows east?
04:07 aleisha good good, getting pretty busy now
04:08 Francesca I can imagine
04:08 final year, almost the end of the 2nd term and you're a prefect
04:08 aleisha yeah always a lot to do
04:09 Francesca fun times
04:09 and on top of all that you play the guitar and sing
04:09 very impressive
04:11 aleisha haha thanks
04:11 rangi and get on the front page of the paper
04:12 Francesca ohh I didn't know this
04:12 what was that for?
04:12 oh wait
04:12 was that the silicon valley article?
04:12 aleisha no it was for yik yak and things
04:13 Francesca oh yeah I saw that on stuff
04:13 aleisha yeah the video interview was better
04:13 Francesca no but seriously how do you do the guitar thing?
04:13 I'm learning but I much prefer the piano
04:14 aleisha i dont really know, i just search up songs and hope the chords are ones i already know or are easy to work out haha
04:14 Francesca lol
04:14 Thats one apprach
04:15 *approach
04:15 my friend from uni is teaching me
04:15 we just kinda jam before lectures
04:15 aleisha that's cool
04:16 Francesca yeah. So are you planning on coming to vic next year?
04:16 aleisha probably yeah
04:16 Francesca cool
04:18 rangi and co will be surrounded by uni students, you, me and cdikinson if he's still around
04:21 ibeardslee nah, secondary students make better slave labour
04:21 .. oops did I type that out loud
04:22 Francesca yup
04:22 ibeardslee: you won't be getting rid of me quite so easily
04:23 even if you so require more slave labour lol
04:37 AmitG hi all
04:45 mtompset mtj: revised tests on that bug. Though, I'm unhappy. It should vary per timezone, you would think.
04:45 Have a great day, #koha AmitG indradg Francesca aleisha rangi mtj wizzyrea eythian. :)
04:45 wizzyrea later
04:45 Francesca bye
04:46 indradg bye
04:47 AmitG hi indradg
04:47 indradg hi AmitG
04:52 mtj hey indradg, AmitG
04:52 indradg hiya mtj
04:53 mtj aleisha: have you heard Kaki King yet? -> http://www.ted.com/talks/kaki_[…]out_to_pink_noise
04:54 aleisha no i haven't mtj
04:54 any good?
04:54 mtj 60 secs in... ^
04:54 AmitG heya mtj
04:55 aleisha i'll have a look when i get home!
04:58 mtj aleisha: i had to have a couple of listens... its pretty weird/challenging stuff
05:00 ..anyhoo, i gotta scoot, ciao
05:03 aleisha bye mtj!
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06:24 reiveune hello
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07:01 alex_a bonjour
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07:16 magnuse bonjour, tout le monde!
07:16 @wunder boo
07:16 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 08, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
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07:39 gaetan_B hello
07:39 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B
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09:59 * cait waves
10:00 Francesca sup cait
10:00 cait hi Francesca - still around? :)
10:01 Francesca watching dwts and my laptops still open so yup
10:01 also I'm being held down by my cat
10:01 cait :)
10:01 Francesca he wants cuddles
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10:47 cait morning all :)
10:47 hi khall :)
10:47 khall mornin!
10:50 magnuse cait: morning?
10:50 cait i am on vacation :)
10:50 mornings are later now
10:50 magnuse lucky you!
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11:20 cait hi BobB and viktor
11:21 viktor Hi cait!
11:24 magnuse tjänare viktor
11:24 viktor Hej magnuse!
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12:01 barton morning #koha!
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12:28 tcohen morning
12:29 mtompset++ # him+family safe after car accident
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12:46 cait morning tcohen
12:46 tcohen hi cait!
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13:21 geek_cl hello o/ #koha
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14:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14053: DBRev 3.21.00.007 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fe4bdd07c79fef871> / Bug 14053: Acquisition db tables are missing indexes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]427537bdcae5a0699> / Bug 14053: Acquisition db tables are missing indexes - atomicupdates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]koha.git;a=commit
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15:27 reiveune bye
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15:55 gaetan_B bye
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18:04 cait bag: ping?
18:04 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-ab[…]oks/dp/0448421658
18:07 pianohacker cait: I think he's still moving
18:07 cait oh
18:07 do you think he reads email?
18:08 pianohacker cait: intermittently yes
18:18 cait we will see :)
18:18 pianohacker: what are you wokring on today? :)
18:18 pianohacker cait: raaaaaancor (and miscellaneous bugs). You?
18:18 cait hm no work, vacation
18:18 but i might do some fun things later :P
18:19 pianohacker nice
19:23 does bug 13068 mean that we no longer add system preferences to sysprefs.sql ourselves?
19:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox
19:25 nengard not feeling too well - moving to other laptop and couch - brb
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19:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10355: paramater 'object' lost on the road <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f446dc3ba69dab59> / Bug 14344: uninitialized value warning C4/Utils/DataTables/Members.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d7e9a713168a21c28>
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19:43 Ivan hi!
19:44 nengard hello
19:44 wahanui kia ora, nengard
19:45 Ivan Help! I can not search for mc-ccode, i have authorized values
19:46 Hi!
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20:13 Ivan hello!
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20:14 rangi morning
20:15 Ivan Help! I can not search for mc-ccode, i have authorized values
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20:27 pianohacker Ivan: could you clarify a bit?
20:28 Ivan ok
20:28 i have a asystem koha
20:29 pianohacker cait: Do you remember how we were talking about adding a syspref to enable Rancor? I put it on an "Experimental features" tab, and that name wraps to two lines. I had the idea to call the tab "Labs" (a la Gmail) instead. Thoughts?
20:29 cait ew
20:29 not ew in a bad way, just no idea :)
20:30 labs sounds kind of ok to me
20:30 maybe a question of how much we want it to stand out
20:30 separate tab or put it on tha cataloguing tab
20:32 pianohacker cait: I think this is a good tab to have; back when granular permissions were optional, I feel like they would have gone here. But on the other hand, the tab would be pretty empty
20:33 cait it would highlight features
20:33 can be a positive thing too
20:33 it's really just a question of how much we want to highlight it maybe
20:34 pianohacker kk. I'll change the name to Labs (with a helpful tag) and let tomas decide on the highlighting front
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21:06 wizzyrea pianohacker: maybe just "experimental"
21:43 Ivan Sorry
21:43 i have collection
21:45 i cant search by collection
21:45 ccode
21:51 cait Ivan: what are you trying to do?
21:51 does the collection search not show up in your advanced search?
21:52 Ivan Search by collection Advanced search
21:52 cait take a look at administration> system preferences > AdvancedSearchTypes
21:53 make sure that you have something like itemtypes|ccode in there
21:53 and then check the advanced search again
21:53 Ivan But does not show anything, I have authorized ccode values, and when I try to make a search does not show results
21:54 cait do the search options show up, but you get no results?
21:54 Ivan In the system of preferences if I have enabled if it shows me, but when I make the search does not show me anything
21:55 cait ok, and you have an item that has the collection applied to it?
21:55 is your search in general working correctly?
21:55 Ivan A search does not show results :(
21:56 }Use CCODE and general search is done correctly
21:57 cait it#s hard to tell what's going wrong
21:57 did you manually catalog the items?
21:57 how do your authorised value codes look like?
22:00 Ivan If you realize manually, the codes are as follows: AC AR CD CYT CPC CSC CRIL GBC GIS INI IDC INT IR
22:00 cait hm they look ok
22:00 and you got the same in the itmes, right?
22:01 didyou import them or catalog them inside of koha?
22:03 Ivan I do not remember if I have the same in the items
22:04 You mean the items that appear in the OPAC in advanced search, if so, if I have the same
22:07 cait Ivan: sorry, running out of ideas
22:07 i'd try and manually catalog a new record with an item that has one of the collections - try to see if that works
22:08 Ivan ok,
22:10 What I really want is to search by collection, not if it's something of the query in the database.
22:10 cait it should work out of the box
22:10 there is nothing to set up
22:10 there must be a problem with indexing or your data in your installation - but it's hard to figure it out
22:12 Ivan But only it occurs with collections, general search this correctly.
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22:30 eythian hi
22:35 cait so what does sound better: average loan time OR average checkout period ?
22:35 rangi the first to me
22:35 cait i should have gussed - yo udon't like checkout
22:38 eythian cait: they sounds like two different things
22:38 well, potentially
22:39 the first sounds less ambiguous, anyway
22:39 cait it's a report we have
22:39 the first is what we list it on the reports page
22:39 the second is the heading shown on the page itself..
22:39 eythian to me the checkout period sounds more like the number of days you have to return it from issue, rather than the amount of time it was actually out
22:39 cait i am having a look at bug 13452
22:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13452 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Average checkout report always uses biblioitems.itemtype
22:40 eythian sure, I'm just picking on the language :)
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23:46 cait this script makes me cry.
23:47 the average chekout time thing only works if you have a circulation condition with no wildcards
23:47 so exact library, patron category and itype
23:48 eythian ick
23:58 cait hm... but i am not sur what it uses issuelength for actually....
23:58 there are some weird things going oin there
23:58 but it does get the issuelength from the issuingrules... just not sure what for

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