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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:01 | drojf | dcook: a fan letter to? :D |
| 00:02 | dcook | drojf: Honestly, I don't remember his name anymore. He was a writer. Actually, he may have even been the ghostwriter behind a different name. I'm not sure. |
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| 00:03 | dcook | It may have been Star Wars related though :p |
| 00:05 | rocio left #koha | |
| 00:10 | drojf | "The estimated shipping time provided by the shipping company is 15 to 20 days" |
| 00:10 | haha. not even close | |
| 00:10 | more like 80 to 90 :) | |
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| 00:47 | indradg | Bug 14284 |
| 00:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14284 trivial, P3, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Typo in Languages.pm |
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| 01:30 | indradg | eythian: around? |
| 01:30 | eythian | yarp |
| 01:31 | indradg | just read your reply to DP Tripathi's single line installer |
| 01:33 | he's targetting it at rank newbies with zero linux skills, assumes a fresh desktop install, does not trap responses or errors and just rides off happily into the sunset with looking around or behind | |
| 01:33 | and you didn't gnash your teeth at disabling default site :D eythian | |
| 01:34 | eythian | because it's doing such a basic installation, if you don't disable the default site, it won't work. It's not doing any virtualhost based separation like is standard. |
| 01:38 | drojf | great, birds are getting up already |
| 01:38 | eythian | heh |
| 01:38 | that's always a bad sign | |
| 01:38 | drojf | indeed |
| 01:38 | good night #koha ;) | |
| 02:14 | eythian | indradg: happy now with my followup? |
| 02:18 | indradg | eythian: heh... it is just that I've wasted too much time dealing with in-production boxes off Koha LiveDVDs and addressing user issues |
| 02:18 | eythian | yeah, fair enough |
| 02:19 | mtompset | eythian++ # YAY! ;) |
| 02:20 | eythian | I don't really like how it sets it up, and certainly wouldn't recommend how it sets it up. But I could see it being good as a quick way to get someone to the point of doing local experimentation. |
| 02:20 | err | |
| 02:20 | * recommend how it sets it up for production use | |
| 02:23 | indradg | eythian: this morning I had to spend 20 mins on a conf just to get someone not to waste their time trying 3.20 on 12.04... what finally settled it was me pointing to your email in april about dropping support |
| 02:26 | eythian | ah, fun times |
| 02:26 | 12.04 must be nearing EOL | |
| 02:27 | ah, april 2017 | |
| 02:27 | or, this august if you haven't kept it up to date. | |
| 02:28 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian <-- indradg, I also list the supported releases here | |
| 02:29 | indradg | eythian++ |
| 02:32 | mtompset | Why 12.04 when 14.04 is out?! |
| 02:33 | eythian | people do strange things sometimes. |
| 02:33 | why do we get questions like "I've just installed 3.06, and..." | |
| 02:33 | mtompset | But it's a whole stinking year later. That makes no sense. |
| 02:33 | indradg | actually there is very "sound" reason why 12.04 |
| 02:34 | mtompset | What is the "sound" reason? They have the LiveDVD? |
| 02:36 | indradg | mtompset: most of the LiveDVD ninjas used Remastersys |
| 02:36 | the last version on which remastersys worked was 12.04 | |
| 02:36 | and hence the proliferation | |
| 02:36 | mtompset | Oh no, the pirates need to learn new linux commands. ;) |
| 02:37 | eythian | I once wrote a Linux remastering script. |
| 02:37 | indradg | i never liked the cruft that remastersys put in |
| 02:37 | eythian | though, with a specific goal in mind. |
| 02:39 | it actually took a .iso that you'd download, mount it, make changes, and rewrite it to a .iso. | |
| 02:39 | geek_cl | eythian, where is that iso file |
| 02:39 | eythian | geek_cl: what iso file? |
| 02:39 | geek_cl | that Koha- LiveDVD |
| 02:40 | eythian | geek_cl: I'm not actually sure. But see above how we were talking about how it can lead to problems? I'd be inclined to avoid it. |
| 02:40 | wahanui1: live cd | |
| 02:40 | wahanui1 | eythian: huh? |
| 02:41 | eythian | wahanui1: why have you changed your name? |
| 02:41 | wahanui1 | no idea, eythian |
| 02:41 | eythian | wahanui1: go fix it. |
| 02:41 | wahanui1 | eythian: sorry... |
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| 02:41 | eythian | better. |
| 02:41 | indradg | i remember someone once got into an argument with rangi why 3.14 was the best of the best... and nothing else is yet to match up! |
| 02:42 | eythian | haha |
| 02:42 | geek_cl | eythian, and what about this: http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2[…]-32-released.html and this: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ive_DVD_Blueprint and this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivedvd/ |
| 02:42 | wizzyrea | eythian: we could list supported OS's on the website |
| 02:43 | indradg | wizzyrea: +1 |
| 02:43 | wizzyrea | it's not constantly changing, and would probably be a good thing to do |
| 02:43 | eythian | wizzyrea: well, I'm thinking mostly about the packages. |
| 02:43 | It's possible to get it to run on almost anything with enough time. | |
| 02:43 | wizzyrea | that's what I meant too :P |
| 02:43 | eythian | geek_cl: what about them? |
| 02:43 | geek_cl | are good ones? |
| 02:43 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ < here |
| 02:44 | rangi | there are no good ones |
| 02:44 | the idea is flawed | |
| 02:44 | geek_cl | ok |
| 02:44 | eythian | geek_cl: I don't have particuarly good opinions on any of them |
| 02:44 | * wizzyrea | neither |
| 02:44 | geek_cl | Ok, just reading your comments |
| 02:44 | eythian | (though the sourceforge one is package-based which is better than they used to be.) |
| 02:45 | rangi | we do people no favours making it easy for them to install something, with no understanding why/how they installed it, why they should keep it up to date, etc |
| 02:45 | geek_cl | i agree, |
| 02:45 | rangi | not for something as important as running a library anyway |
| 02:46 | geek_cl | thanks for you comments guys, |
| 02:46 | see you later | |
| 02:46 | bye #koha | |
| 02:47 | eythian | later |
| 02:47 | indradg | it would be like handing someone who has never seen one, a loaded Glock and not telling them that the glock does not have a traditional safety |
| 02:47 | rangi | cya geek_cl |
| 02:48 | indradg | bye geek_cl |
| 02:48 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ < Eythian |
| 02:49 | eythian | wizzyrea: is the "not recommended" bit new? It seems a bit much to me, I'd be inclined to just say that packages are preferred where feasible, or something. |
| 02:49 | wizzyrea | no, it's not new |
| 02:49 | it's been that way for quite a while | |
| 02:49 | eythian | OK :) |
| 02:50 | * eythian | tries to ignore the inconsistent typesetting around there, too. |
| 02:50 | mostly fails :) | |
| 02:50 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 02:50 | that little section needs a header of some kind. | |
| 02:50 | gdi now I have to fix it. | |
| 02:56 | mtompset | eythian: We don't all have a TARDIS. :P |
| 02:57 | (to make Koha work on anything) | |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ < better at all? |
| 03:07 | eythian | yea, I think so |
| 03:08 | wizzyrea | yay! |
| 03:08 | * wizzyrea | doesn't mind caring for the website, and doesn't mind suggestions |
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| 03:10 | mtompset | wizzyrea: Am I crazy for thinking Debian 8 should be listed before Debian 7? :) |
| 03:11 | eythian | mtompset: depends on your preference for numerical order or not, I suppose. |
| 03:12 | mtompset | I was just thinking people read as little as possible. |
| 03:12 | If we put Debian 8 first, that's what they will use. | |
| 03:13 | Assuming they are a LtR culture. :) | |
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| 03:30 | eythian | https://youtu.be/H0CGBc_PIbI <-- dcook :) |
| 03:31 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:31 | I feel like that sometimes | |
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| 03:33 | AmitG | hi all |
| 03:33 | mtompset | Greetings, AmitG. |
| 03:33 | dcook: Translate? | |
| 03:36 | eythian | yeah, dcook. Translate. |
| 03:40 | rats, he seems to have gone | |
| 03:43 | dcook | Lots and lots of swearing |
| 03:44 | eythian | I think you should do a real translation. |
| 03:44 | dcook | I don't know if a real translation is possible to be honest |
| 03:44 | A literal translation would be essentially nonsense | |
| 03:44 | eythian | heh, probably true |
| 03:44 | dcook | A more nuanced translation... I don't think we have swears in English for all of those ones :p |
| 03:45 | I've seen a good one in graphic form though.. | |
| 03:45 | Possibly done by Michel Rabagliati | |
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| 03:58 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha dcook eythian AmitG indradg wizzyrea |
| 04:04 | mtj | has anyone done a nytprof on a koha checkout recently? |
| 04:05 | eythian | not lately |
| 04:05 | mtj | ive got a graph here, with a crazy amount of Date::* stuff |
| 04:06 | AmitG | hya mtj |
| 04:30 | mtj | hey AmitG, nice to see you :0) |
| 04:32 | * dcook | wonders how a person thought writing $fld instead of $field was helpful |
| 04:33 | dcook | Exactly |
| 04:33 | It's enough to quit IRC over | |
| 04:34 | eythian | haha |
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| 04:38 | * dcook | needs to brush up on his binary |
| 04:42 | eythian | 0, 1. |
| 04:42 | done. | |
| 04:43 | dcook | :P |
| 04:44 | I need to brush up on binary operations and bitwise operators | |
| 04:47 | Or maybe I just need to learn what the bits in this other system mean :p | |
| 04:48 | mtj | hmm, ive been poking at a koha with slow circ, today... |
| 04:49 | turns out that the problem is a large(ish) 'loan period', in smart-rules.pl | |
| 04:49 | around 300 | |
| 04:50 | ..anyone else bumped into that? | |
| 04:50 | tested on 3.20 fwiw | |
| 04:50 | * dcook | hasn't used 3.20 yest |
| 04:50 | dcook | yet* |
| 04:51 | How is the problem a large loan period? | |
| 04:51 | mtj | veeeery slow circ reponse |
| 04:51 | dcook | What I mean is... why does it slow down? |
| 04:52 | I would think adding 300 days to a datetime wouldn't be that hard... if that's what it does | |
| 04:52 | * dcook | spent a long time with DateTime yesterday |
| 04:52 | mtj | nytprof says lots of calls to date::stuff |
| 04:52 | eythian | dcook: OK, work out what -~x and ~-x do in C/C++, and why, and you'll have it all sorted. |
| 04:52 | dcook | eythian: I did see a reference to ~$something at one point :S |
| 04:53 | eythian | dcook: that's not what I said. |
| 04:53 | dcook | I think I get how they're packing their bits at the moment though |
| 04:53 | eythian: I know. I'm just saying I saw the tilde and went "Hmm I should figure out what that means" | |
| 04:53 | :p | |
| 04:53 | eythian | it's a bitwize complement |
| 04:53 | *wise | |
| 04:54 | * dcook | is looking as we breathe |
| 04:54 | mtj | "I would think adding 300 days to a datetime wouldn't be that hard... if that's what it does" |
| 04:55 | dcook: koha seems to be doing DT math on each day in the loan-period | |
| 04:56 | eythian | it's probably accounting for holidays |
| 04:56 | perhaps badly | |
| 04:56 | dcook | mtj: Certainly worth investigating more :) |
| 04:56 | mtj | eythian: yeah, i reckon thats it |
| 04:57 | eythian | probably needs some optimisation somewhere. |
| 04:57 | dcook | Atm, I'm more interested in '<<' |
| 04:57 | mtj | heh, yep... :) |
| 04:58 | eythian | dcook: that means "a lot less than" |
| 04:58 | dcook | :P |
| 05:03 | Would love if "when" had more documentation too.. | |
| 05:04 | * dcook | assumes when(1) means when($_ == 1)... |
| 05:04 | dcook | or... when($_ =~ /1/) |
| 05:04 | err if for those last two whens.. | |
| 05:06 | eythian | dcook: given...when is currently experimental, iirc |
| 05:07 | dcook | yeah, you recall correctly |
| 05:07 | This isn't for Koha, and there are a lot of experimental features... | |
| 05:07 | Fun times :) | |
| 05:07 | eythian | also, when(1) != when($_ == 1). |
| 05:07 | dcook | Yeah, I guess not |
| 05:07 | when(1) == when(/1/) ? | |
| 05:07 | in this case, it's using a for loop rather than given | |
| 05:08 | eythian | no, I don't think so. |
| 05:08 | I think that's just like saying "true" | |
| 05:08 | dcook | Well, I'll find out in a minute after doing some tests |
| 05:08 | eythian | apparently it's complicated |
| 05:08 | > Exactly what the EXPR argument to when does is hard to describe precisely, but in general, it tries to guess what you want done. | |
| 05:08 | how perly | |
| 05:08 | dcook | Considering how many if(1) and if(0) I see in this code.. |
| 05:08 | lol | |
| 05:08 | eythian | > It also behaves differently when lexically enclosed by a given block than it does when dynamically enclosed by a foreach loop. The rules are far too difficult to understand to be described here. |
| 05:08 | dcook | O_O |
| 05:09 | eythian | http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsy[…]on-given-and-when |
| 05:09 | dcook | I'm just going to do an experiment and see how it's working in this case |
| 05:09 | * dcook | will report back |
| 05:09 | eythian | if you're not back by dawn, we'll call search and rescue. |
| 05:10 | dcook | Merci |
| 05:10 | Hmm when(0) definitely isn't the same as if(0) | |
| 05:11 | At least not within a for loop | |
| 05:12 | "If your code still needs to run on older versions, stick to foreach for your topicalizer and you will be less unhappy." | |
| 05:15 | Hmm but when(0) is definitely not like when(/0/) either | |
| 05:15 | Maybe when(/^0$/).. | |
| 05:17 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:17 | magnuse | when(\o/) |
| 05:17 | eythian | heh |
| 05:25 | dcook | hehe |
| 05:25 | heya magnuse :) | |
| 05:25 | Binary << returns the value of its left argument shifted left by the number of bits specified by the right argument. | |
| 05:25 | :S | |
| 05:25 | I'm looking at 1 << 1 | |
| 05:26 | which equals 2 | |
| 05:32 | Ah, so it totally works how I thought | |
| 05:32 | It does exactly what it says | |
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| 05:33 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 05:34 | dcook | hey cait :) |
| 05:34 | cait | morning magnuse |
| 05:34 | magnuse | any new converts yet? :-) |
| 05:34 | cait | hi dcook |
| 05:38 | magnuse | opacheader is the recommended syspref for a logo that should show up on all pages? |
| 05:40 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:40 | cait | magnuse: it's what we use :) |
| 05:40 | hi eythian | |
| 05:40 | eythian | dcook: yeah, bitwise stuff is pretty sensible when you think about it. |
| 05:41 | dcook: find a scientific calculator with binary mode and those operators | |
| 05:41 | dcook: gnome-calculator has them | |
| 05:41 | magnuse | thanks cait |
| 05:41 | dcook | Yeah, I just figured that it wouldn't be doing what it was saying, but it totes was |
| 05:42 | Of course, I think their code might be doing a few other things that are actually crazy and weird | |
| 05:42 | But that's always a possibility | |
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| 05:53 | magnuse | bonjour p_vdk |
| 05:53 | @wunder boo | |
| 05:53 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:54 | * magnuse | wants to play with (R)?ex |
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| 06:10 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 06:10 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (4:00 PM AEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:10 | dcook | Whaat? IT can't be that warm out.. |
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| 06:16 | cdickinson | @wunder nzwn |
| 06:16 | huginn | cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:16 | dcook | Ah wait maybe the other binary stuff isn't mad either |
| 06:17 | cdickinson | mmmmm, Koha as a Service shows signs of life |
| 06:17 | dcook | \o/ |
| 06:18 | cdickinson | Puppet modules aren't helping any though, spent all day trying to wrestle with the Apache Puppet module trying to get it to do what I want x_x |
| 06:19 | there is a stupid bug in the libapache2-mpm-itk package for ubuntu 14.04 LTS, where it won't configure properly unless the default MPM is not configured | |
| 06:19 | had to make a hack for the Puppet module to do this, and a few other things to get the ITK MPM to install | |
| 06:19 | and configure itself without blowing up | |
| 06:22 | and with that, I am done here at work for the day. Time to go home and relax for a bit | |
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| 06:32 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:34 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 06:35 | reiveune | hi magnuse :) |
| 06:36 | dcook | This is actually quite helpful: https://developer.mozilla.org/[…]Bitwise_Operators |
| 06:36 | I swear I teach myself about bitwise operators once a year... | |
| 06:39 | cdickinson | I always forget which one preserves sign, logical or bitwise shifts |
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| 06:54 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:59 | wahanui | niihau, alex_a |
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| 07:20 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:40 | magnuse | bonjour gaetan_B |
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| 07:50 | Barbarian | Hello ladies and gentlemen! I'm working in a school which has recently switched to Koha, and I'm trying to figure out the best methodology to hide a certain category of books from Opac. Would it be better to make a new library and limit Opac to only the original library, or use the OpacHiddenItems YAML thing? |
| 07:50 | Essentially, we want to use Koha to track textbooks given to students as well as the contents of the library, but not have the textbooks show up in Opac. | |
| 07:51 | Viktor | Hi #koha! |
| 07:53 | magnuse | hi Viktor |
| 07:53 | Viktor | hi magnuse |
| 07:53 | magnuse | Barbarian: i suspect OpacHiddenItems would be the easiest |
| 07:54 | Viktor | We have no central script for fecthing cover images and deliver them over ajax right? |
| 07:54 | magnuse | Viktor: isn't that the thing we sponsored? |
| 07:54 | Viktor | Don't know exactly how they solved it :) |
| 07:54 | magnuse | bug 7187 |
| 07:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P4, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next |
| 07:55 | Viktor | If it's an actual central API for covers or just stopping the others when one finds something :) |
| 07:55 | Was happy it was going to work and didn't look at the details.. | |
| 07:55 | magnuse | the code should be here: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]fs/heads/wr222309 |
| 07:56 | Barbarian | magnuse: Thanks. I'll see if I can manage it without asking silly questions using the manual. |
| 07:57 | magnuse | Viktor: this looks like the front end script: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]fs/heads/wr222309 |
| 07:58 | with the heavy lifting done by http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]fs/heads/wr222309 | |
| 07:59 | there's a lot of talk about caching in there, at least | |
| 07:59 | Viktor | magnuse++ Thanks! Looks promising. |
| 08:01 | Was a bit worried we might have to revisit this, but it looks like they centralized the whole thing :) | |
| 08:03 | Barbarian | magnuse: Ermm, "code: TXB" doesn't seem to be hiding the item. Does "code" have a different name when it comes to the hidden settings? |
| 08:10 | Based on some stuff I just found via google, just tried "itype: TXB" as well, which also doesn't work. | |
| 08:12 | magnuse | Barbarian: not sure, off the top of my head |
| 08:12 | http://translate.koha-communit[…]/#OpacHiddenItems | |
| 08:13 | i think it has to be "itype: [TXB]" | |
| 08:13 | without the quotes | |
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| 08:13 | magnuse | but with the um, square parens [] |
| 08:13 | Barbarian | Sorry, connection dropped for a second. Mind copy/pasting what you just said? |
| 08:14 | magnuse | <magnuse> http://translate.koha-communit[…]/#OpacHiddenItems |
| 08:14 | <magnuse> i think it has to be "itype: [TXB]" | |
| 08:14 | <magnuse> without the quotes | |
| 08:14 | but with the um, square parens [] | |
| 08:14 | Barbarian | Got it. Giving it a try |
| 08:15 | Nope, still displaying the textbook | |
| 08:18 | magnuse | hm, not sure then |
| 08:18 | did you reindex? | |
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| 08:20 | Barbarian | magnuse: Just re-indexed and tried again now, didn't seem to help |
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| 08:20 | Barbarian | (assuming that koha-rebuild-zebra does the re-indexing) |
| 08:26 | magnuse: Ok, different question then: is there a YAML statement I can make to hide based on location? | |
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| 08:33 | magnuse | Barbarian: did you do koha-rebuild-zebra -f? |
| 08:33 | the -f does a full reindex | |
| 08:34 | without it you just index what is in the zebraqueue | |
| 08:34 | Barbarian | magnuse: No, I did not. Doing it now. |
| 08:34 | magnuse | you can add -v to see what is happening in more detail |
| 08:37 | Barbarian | magnuse: Didn't seem to help, but in the manual, it gives as an example this: "itype: [07, 10]". How would I find that number? |
| 08:39 | magnuse | as far as i can tell, those numbers are just "strings of numbers" that are used in the exact same way as your string TXB |
| 08:40 | Barbarian | Ah, ok. |
| 08:59 | xarragon | When using the DBIx framework and TestBuilder, it seems like timestamps needs some extra care with MySQL. There exists a module named DBIx::Class::Timestamp for this purpose. Anyone got any experience with that? |
| 09:00 | Essentially, the database entry created by TestBuilder has no timestamp value, so tests fail. | |
| 09:00 | magnuse | xarragon: sounds like a bug? |
| 09:03 | xarragon | magnuse: Experience says that I am using it wrong, rather than it being a bug. I am new to DBIx and the test frameworks. |
| 09:05 | TestBuilder is awesome though. I started to write raw SQL like in the existing NewsChanels.pm, and it got bloated pretty fast. | |
| 09:06 | * magnuse | has not looked at TestBuilder yet |
| 09:17 | Barbarian | magnuse: Do you think it's possible that OpacHiddenItems is only blocking *physical* books instead of the book as a whole? |
| 09:17 | So the book will still appear in searches, just saying "No Physical Items" | |
| 09:18 | xarragon | Actually, if you DDG for the problem, the Koha Wiki is one the entries: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s::Schema::Loader |
| 09:25 | magnuse: Ah, no. I was completely wrong. It is just that the news retrieval function does a lot of "massaging" of the column data before it returns it. | |
| 09:28 | magnuse | Barbarian: i *think* it should hide the whole record if all items are hidden |
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| 09:44 | indradg | hola #koha |
| 10:38 | magnuse | lunch! |
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| 10:41 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 11:24 | indradg | hi drojf |
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| 11:48 | AmitG | bug 13993 |
| 11:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13993 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Passed QA , Transfer order from one vendor to another vendor previous orderstatus is not changed. |
| 11:50 | Barbarian | I can't figure this out. I think the only reasonable thing to do at this point is file a bug report |
| 11:50 | I'll start screenshotting and documenting the steps I've made and put it up on your bugzilla. | |
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| 12:28 | Viktor | Same patron having different categories for different branches/libraries. Would that be obviously bad? Because that might be helpful for regions where you cooperate but might have a bit stricter rules for the patron from a neighboring city. |
| 12:28 | liw | the libraries in Oulu, Finland, have announced they'll be using Koha; this is satisfying to me as an onlooker (currently in Finland, though not in Oulu) |
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| 12:35 | mveron | Hi #koha |
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| 12:39 | nengard | hi mveron |
| 12:39 | and #koha | |
| 12:39 | mveron | hi nengard :-) |
| 12:39 | marcelr | hi mveron nengard |
| 12:40 | mveron | daag, marcelr :-) |
| 12:40 | marcelr | gruss got ? |
| 12:40 | spelling.. | |
| 12:40 | wahanui | spelling is a problem with international versions of English. Is there a particular standard preferred in the default EN installation? |
| 12:40 | marcelr | yeah |
| 12:41 | mveron | marcelr: Grüezi (in Switzerland) :-) "Grüss Gott" in Germany :-) |
| 12:41 | marcelr | Grüezi cool |
| 12:42 | mveron | marcelr: Or 'Hoi' in Switzerland, if you know somebody. same as in the Netherlands as I remember... |
| 12:42 | marcelr | true |
| 12:42 | ha he hi hoi but we do not have hu | |
| 12:42 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 12:42 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.0°C (2:30 PM CEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
| 12:43 | mveron | 'Hü' we use to make a horse move :-) |
| 12:44 | marcelr | well you could use that in Koha hahaha |
| 12:44 | Barbarian | There seems to be more people on right now, so I figure I'll try my luck one last time before filing a bug report: I have an item type of "Textbooks", circulation code "TXB". I go to OpacHiddenItem in advanced settings and add "itype: [TXB]" to it. In OPAC, textbooks still show up in search results, are still accessible, and are still a category in advanced search. Anyone know what I'm missing? |
| 12:45 | mveron | Then I would say "Hopp" - it's used to cherlead in sports, e.g. "Hopp Koha" |
| 12:46 | Barbarian | (I've also tried "ccode: [TXB]", "ccode: [Textbook]", and "itype: [Textbook]" |
| 12:46 | ) | |
| 12:46 | mveron | Barbarian: Will try on my VM |
| 12:46 | Barbarian | mveron: I'm using version 3.20 btw |
| 12:47 | mveron | Barbarian: I'm on current master, 3.21.00.002 |
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| 12:48 | tcohen | morning! |
| 12:49 | Barbarian | Good morning |
| 12:49 | mveron | hi tcohen :-) |
| 12:49 | tcohen | hi Barbarian mveron |
| 13:00 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
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| 13:00 | magnuse | marcelr++ for digging into bug 6874 |
| 13:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC) |
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| 13:07 | Barbarian | mveron: Any luck on hidden items? |
| 13:07 | mveron | Still digging... |
| 13:09 | * mveron | Phone call |
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| 13:18 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 13:19 | @seen aleisha | |
| 13:19 | huginn | mtompset: aleisha was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 31 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <aleisha> yeah just been doing stuff another branch and messed it up a little bit |
| 13:19 | mtompset | Wow. Okay. She was not on yesterday then. |
| 13:20 | @later tell aleisha Could you please retest bug 14121 on a Debian Jessie box? | |
| 13:20 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:20 | mveron | Barbarian: I managed to hide all Books with |
| 13:20 | itype: [BK] | |
| 13:20 | Barbarian | Huh. |
| 13:21 | Did you have to do anything else beforehand to get it working? | |
| 13:21 | Or after? | |
| 13:21 | mtompset | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]tables/items.html |
| 13:21 | mveron | But only biblios that have items were hidden. Biblios were not hidden. |
| 13:21 | mtompset | You can use ANY field listed in the items table schema. :) |
| 13:22 | Barbarian | mveron: Ah! That might explain it, I'll try adding an item, see if that works |
| 13:23 | mveron | Barbarian: Yeah, that should work. |
| 13:24 | Make sure that you set y - koha item type when adding / editing items | |
| 13:25 | Barbarian | mveron: Hmmm, biblio still shows up in the search, and clicking the item leads to a 404. I remember seeing something about that on bugzilla earlier when I checked, 1 min |
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| 13:28 | mtompset | Probably one of my bugs. :) |
| 13:29 | Isn't there some $n that blocks biblio level visibility? | |
| 13:29 | Barbarian | Doing a zebra-rebuild fixed it |
| 13:29 | Hurray! | |
| 13:29 | mveron | Great :-) |
| 13:29 | Barbarian | I'll shoot an email over to our librarian so he knows to make sure all textbooks have at least one item attached to them |
| 13:29 | mtompset | I remember drojf did something with that code. |
| 13:29 | Barbarian | Thanks for the help |
| 13:29 | mtompset | What is the MARC code I'm trying to remember, drojf? |
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| 13:35 | mveron | Barbarian: Bug 14007 could be related to your issue |
| 13:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14007 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Item Types for items hidden by OpacHiddenItems turn up in facet results |
| 13:37 | Barbarian | That bug is rather confusingly written |
| 13:37 | mveron | And Bug 9966 - Maybe this is resolved by re-indexing |
| 13:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9966 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Incorrect 404 when a search returns one result hidden by OpacHiddenItems |
| 13:38 | Barbarian | mveron: Could very well be. Cleared up my related 404 issue. |
| 13:38 | mveron | Can you comment on the Bug that it is resolved for you? |
| 13:39 | Barbarian | It isn't *exactly* the same, but sure. |
| 13:41 | * magnuse | wanders off |
| 13:44 | Barbarian | mveron: Do you also want me to put up a new low-priority bug about hidden biblios without items attached? It's a fairly rare situation, I would imagine, but still very confusing if you don't get any results on Google. |
| 13:47 | mveron | Barbarian: I think it's good to have some trace in Bugzilla. |
| 13:47 | Barbarian | Alrighty, I'll put it up then |
| 13:51 | Bug 14288 <--- added | |
| 13:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Hidden biblios without item attached not hidden |
| 13:59 | Barbarian | Anyways, it's clock-out time for me. Going home to play games and drink beer. Thanks for the help once again! |
| 14:09 | mtompset | Barbarian.... there is a MARC code for that. |
| 14:10 | I can't remember the MARC code. | |
| 14:14 | 942.... | |
| 14:16 | 942$n! | |
| 14:16 | I found it. | |
| 14:17 | Curses. He left already. | |
| 14:19 | * mveron | away meeting |
| 14:19 | mveron | QUit |
| 14:20 | :-) | |
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| 15:09 | talljoy | morning |
| 15:11 | tcohen | morning talljoy |
| 15:12 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:27 | tcohen | @seen dpavlin |
| 15:27 | huginn | tcohen: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 11 weeks, 6 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <dpavlin> hooray for everybody involved! |
| 15:28 | * mtompset | smirks. |
| 15:28 | mtompset | tcohen: He is rarely around. |
| 15:34 | tcohen | mtompset: thanks |
| 15:36 | nengard | what table stores the koha to marc mapping info? |
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| 15:47 | tcohen | marc_subfield_structure |
| 15:53 | nengard: ? | |
| 15:53 | it stores the mapping on the default framework | |
| 15:54 | kohafield column | |
| 16:02 | nengard | yes - sorry was on the phone |
| 16:02 | found it :) thank you!! | |
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| 18:18 | nengard | okay ... I might be done with the 3.20 manual |
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| 19:26 | talljoy | tcohen i just heard from brendan. he says that Fernet and Orange Soda do not go well together. fyi. |
| 19:26 | hahahaha | |
| 19:27 | darn missed him | |
| 19:35 | misilot | question what does, "Populate fields with default values from default framework " do on the batch record and batch item deletion pages? |
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| 19:42 | nengard | if there is a default value in your framework it will fill that value in in the editor |
| 19:42 | no clue on the delete tool ... | |
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| 21:22 | indradg | hi #koha |
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| 22:06 | eythian | @later tell cdickinson feel free to target Debian instead of Ubuntu if it's easier, I won't mind :D |
| 22:06 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:06 | eythian | also, hi |
| 22:09 | rangi | morning |
| 22:11 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 22:14 | mtompset | Greetings, eythian rangi wizzyrea. :) |
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| 22:36 | mtompset | aleisha! The person I was hoping to see. :) |
| 22:36 | aleisha | hi mtompset :) |
| 22:36 | mtompset | And now that you spoke, you know why. :) |
| 22:38 | Do you have a Debian Jessie box to test it on, aleisha? :) | |
| 22:39 | aleisha | no i don't |
| 22:44 | eythian | aleisha: if you need servers for things, let me know. We have plenty we can spin up as needed. |
| 22:47 | aleisha | how can i get a Debian Jessie box? |
| 22:48 | eythian | aleisha: this is why we have a Cloud :) |
| 22:51 | mtompset | eythian++ # Thanks for helping get a bug testing Debian Jessie box spun up. :) |
| 22:53 | marcelr++ # for taking on bug 6874 | |
| 22:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC) |
| 22:54 | mtompset | marcelr++ # for taking on bug 5010. :) |
| 22:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol |
| 22:55 | mtompset | I'm so much closer to not having to roll custom distributions. :) |
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