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| 01:08 | mtompset | YAY! I'm closer to getting a CAS server set up. |
| 01:08 | Anyone have experience with this? | |
| 01:36 | geek_cl | mtompset, any issue? |
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| 01:45 | mtompset | Well, i seem to have the apache mod auth_cas redirecting for authentication, but there's nothing trying to authenticate. |
| 01:46 | No user name and password prompts.. just a complaint about cas/login not existing. | |
| 01:47 | which makes sense, because there is no such directory as far as i know. | |
| 01:49 | geek_cl | mtompset, can you enable DEBUG for the apache and the process? |
| 01:52 | mtompset | enable how again? |
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| 01:52 | mtompset | And I don't think that is the problem. |
| 01:53 | geek_cl | yeah, but logs can says to you something |
| 01:54 | mtompset | I'm giving up until someone has a "follow these instructions" URL link that works gauranteed. :) |
| 01:55 | geek_cl | https://wiki.jasig.org/display[…]y+CAS+Walkthrough |
| 02:23 | eythian | yay, PDF::FromHTML builds on wheezy! |
| 02:36 | mtompset | Thanks, geek_cl. That may be helpful, when I get time to look at it further. |
| 03:06 | mtj | hey #koha |
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| 03:07 | mtj | geek_cl: thats a nice CAS link ^ |
| 03:07 | geek_cl | yeah ;) |
| 03:08 | mtj | ive been curious about CAS + Koha for ages |
| 03:08 | Cambodia_Librar | hello |
| 03:08 | can you help me | |
| 03:09 | ? | |
| 03:09 | eythian | ask? |
| 03:09 | wahanui | Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 03:10 | mtj | Cambodia_Librar: short answer is yes :) |
| 03:10 | longer answer is... maybe? :p | |
| 03:11 | what is your question Cambodia_Librar? | |
| 03:13 | eythian | @later tell tcohen libpdf-fromhtml-perl is finally in the repo. |
| 03:13 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:15 | Cambodia_Librar | how to create Shelving location |
| 03:15 | ? | |
| 03:16 | eythian | if you add an authorised value with the code LOC, it is the shelving location. |
| 03:17 | Cambodia_Librar | ok |
| 03:19 | mtj | congrats on the libpdf-fromhtml-perl build eythian |
| 03:20 | eythian | hopefully it's accepted into debian proper so it mostly stops being my problem :) |
| 03:20 | (it should be, it has had a fair bit of cleaning up.) | |
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| 04:10 | mtj | nice, its an interesting process huh :) |
| 04:14 | eythian | https://anonscm.debian.org/cgi[…]tml-perl.git/log/ <-- quite a few patches needed. |
| 04:19 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
| 04:22 | mtj | nice, i havent seen that alioth cgit before |
| 04:24 | very impressive eythian :) | |
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| 04:47 | eythian | @later tell tcohen can you please add the patch from bug 14321 to 3.20.x |
| 04:47 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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| 05:07 | eythian | @later tell tcohen I'd also really like to get bug 14106 fixed before 3.20 gets released. Which means I need to write it first. |
| 05:07 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:30 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:33 | magnuse | bonjour le #koha! |
| 06:35 | cait | bbl #koha |
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| 06:46 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:46 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 20, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:47 | sophie_m joined #koha | |
| 06:48 | p_vdk | Hi Koha |
| 06:52 | magnuse | hiya p_vdk |
| 06:52 | p_vdk | hey magnuse |
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| 07:03 | indradg | good afternoon #koha |
| 07:03 | @karma | |
| 07:03 | huginn | indradg: Highest karma: "cait" (226), "Joubu" (180), and "tcohen" (170). Lowest karma: "ie" (-22), "-" (-13), and "^" (-12). You (indradg) are ranked 39 out of 411. |
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| 07:08 | magnuse | hiya Viktor indradg fridolin cait |
| 07:08 | indradg | hi magnuse |
| 07:08 | @wunder kolkata | |
| 07:08 | huginn | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 33.0°C (12:20 PM IST on May 20, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:08 | magnuse | you win - again! |
| 07:08 | indradg | heh |
| 07:09 | magnuse | ooh, just above the comfort level for humidity? |
| 07:09 | Viktor | Hi magnuse cait and all :) |
| 07:09 | indradg | magnuse: wait for the winter, then you would be beating me hands down |
| 07:09 | magnuse | btw, we did have 30C last summer :-) |
| 07:09 | indradg | hi Viktor |
| 07:09 | magnuse: the humidity is actually not so bad right now... bad is when it goes past mid 70s | |
| 07:10 | * cait | waves |
| 07:10 | indradg | hi cait |
| 07:12 | magnuse | indradg: noted :-) |
| 07:12 | oops, i lied. the warmest we had last year was 29.1C | |
| 07:13 | Viktor | We'll be working on some patches for making the news more of a "blog". |
| 07:13 | magnuse | yay |
| 07:13 | Viktor | But what about making the Opac more of a CMS? |
| 07:13 | I know indradg worked a bit on those things(?) | |
| 07:13 | magnuse | probably depends on what you mean by that :-) |
| 07:14 | Viktor | I'd like to extend "Koha as CMS"-functionality to automatically create navigation. |
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| 07:14 | fridolin | hie |
| 07:14 | indradg | Viktor: I'm not sure whether to maintain the plugin or merge and extend it as a regular function on Koha |
| 07:15 | Viktor | And also a better system than sysprefs for integrating HTML on the sidebars. Perhaps some widget system? Or at least integrating TinyMCE there as well(?) |
| 07:15 | magnuse | yeah, i have been thinking about a new type of syspref for the html fields, that could use tinymce when you edit them |
| 07:15 | Viktor | Indradg: I'd like to have that as a regular out of the box function. Libraries over here often use that kind of functionality. |
| 07:16 | magnuse | should not be a ton of work, i think |
| 07:16 | indradg | it is not |
| 07:17 | Viktor | Then perhaps I should write an RFC to outline what we would want and then we discuss the whole picture at one? |
| 07:17 | indradg | Viktor: go ahead |
| 07:17 | Viktor | indradg :) |
| 07:18 | magnuse | Viktor: that's the way to do it :-) |
| 07:18 | Viktor | We have the resources to get it done I think but I feel it needs to be synced with the communtiy so we dont break anyones workflow. |
| 07:18 | indradg | Viktor++ |
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| 07:19 | Viktor | I'll also make an RFC for version handling of records and granular permissions for what sources can edit what fields in records. That one feels a bit more like a potential can of worms :) |
| 07:20 | indradg | I can spend some time on the CMS. but not unless there is some sort of agreement on what we want and that doing so won't break up existing workflow |
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| 07:20 | Viktor | indradg++ |
| 07:22 | Then a RCF sounds like a very good idea. I can allocate resources to this as well (and the first patches needed for showing author of news might show up today). But as you say we need to know people will not cry out in horror. | |
| 07:24 | indradg | :) |
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| 07:54 | AmitG | heya indradg |
| 07:55 | indradg | Hi AmitG |
| 08:00 | cait | Viktor: I amnot so much in favor of sysprefs - because it's only one language if you are not using tricks |
| 08:00 | at least our current system preferences make things a little hard, it's easy to add a bit of javascript to get the effect | |
| 08:04 | magnuse | yeah, a more mature blog/cms thing should not store pages as sysprefs |
| 08:04 | create a new table for that | |
| 08:13 | cait | yeah |
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| 08:26 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 08:27 | ...and good daytime to everybody :-) | |
| 08:28 | indradg | hiya mveron |
| 08:29 | mveron | hiya indradg :-) |
| 08:30 | indradg | Bug 14234 |
| 08:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14234 new feature, P5 - low, ---, indradg, NEW , Include the user manual with Koha package |
| 08:31 | indradg | mveron, magnuse, Viktor, cait ^^^^ please do comment, this is partly linked to nengard's bug 11115 |
| 08:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11115 new feature, P5 - low, ---, indradg, NEW , Pull help files from the manual |
| 08:34 | Viktor | indradg: From a user standpoint I would find that higly useful. |
| 08:34 | From a technical standpoint I don't see any problems. Which might mean I fail to see something important :) | |
| 08:34 | indradg | :) |
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| 08:36 | mveron | I like the idea to have a local copy of the manual. The help could then have 2 links, one to the local copy and one to the online manual |
| 08:42 | xarragon | mveron: Having a local copy also means that the user would also automatically be using the right version of the documentation, an important benefit. |
| 08:42 | mveron: Although that depends on how much difference there is between versions. | |
| 08:44 | mveron | xarragon: ...and the most recent copy could be distributed with the updates |
| 08:44 | magnuse | sounds good to me (without giving it too much thought) |
| 08:46 | phew, paperwork for march and april done, now i just need to get it to the accountant | |
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| 09:12 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 09:23 | is build-git-snapshot supposed to write into debian/changelog? i set the version to master+patchnumber, it did not like it (has to start with a number) and got stuck because it had the 'master+number' thing in debian/changelog and that made all following attempts to build a package (with correct number) fail, arguing 3.19~something was a smaller number than master~something | |
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| 10:15 | * drojf | quietly puts some chocolate on the #koha table, hides & observes |
| 10:16 | * ashimema | num, num, num... |
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| 10:16 | * drojf | makes a note in the kohadev spotting book |
| 10:23 | * cait1 | munches |
| 10:23 | cait1 | slides? |
| 10:23 | wahanui | kf should be writing slides |
| 10:25 | indradg | mveron: thanks for testing... i'm checking what is the issue with the second commit |
| 10:26 | cait1 | forget slides |
| 10:26 | wahanui | cait1: I forgot slides |
| 10:26 | cait1 | slides is <reply> Slides are evil! Noone should be forced to write any! |
| 10:26 | slides? | |
| 10:26 | wahanui | Slides are evil! Noone should be forced to write any! |
| 11:01 | cait1 | ashimema: i need an urgent sip test |
| 11:02 | bug 14151 - really bad for 3.18 | |
| 11:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14151 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , SIP2 Checkouts fail in Koha 3.18 |
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| 11:16 | * magnus_out_and_about | magnuse |
| 11:17 | magnuse | pft |
| 11:27 | ashimema | cait: I've stuck colinc on it |
| 11:28 | * ashimema | really needs a new stall.. that's the third time today it's collapsed underneath him |
| 11:34 | magnuse | stall? |
| 11:35 | xarragon | Laptop stand? |
| 11:35 | ashimema | seat |
| 11:36 | a tall bar stall type seat.. I have a standing desk and usually stand.. | |
| 11:36 | but a tall stall for occasional perching when the legs are tired ;) | |
| 11:36 | xarragon | I broke off the back rest on my office chair once, by mistake. That was fun! |
| 11:37 | While I was sitting in it. Apparently a manufacturing defect. | |
| 11:37 | ashimema | yikes.. that does sound fun |
| 11:37 | I imagine it has a simlar effect to my stall collapsing.. you ending up in a heap on the floor ;) | |
| 11:38 | xarragon | Could have ended badly, but my clumsiness is usually compensated by dumb luck. :-) |
| 11:38 | There was a sharp metal edge left efter the single flat bar snapped off, it was aiming for my butt and/or lower back, but missed. | |
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| 12:28 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:29 | eythian++ | |
| 12:41 | indradg | I've a question - when would a bug report quality as "enhancement" and when as a "new feature"? - would adding a new functionality to a module an enhancement or a new feature? |
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| 13:01 | nengard | morning all |
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| 13:15 | magnuse | hiya nengard |
| 13:16 | nengard | magnuse!!!! :) |
| 13:16 | I miss you magnuse | |
| 13:16 | magnuse | awww... |
| 13:17 | 'twas really great meeting you again in marseille! | |
| 13:19 | nengard | :) |
| 13:24 | magnuse | maybe again next year? :-) |
| 13:24 | * magnuse | wanders off to collect kiddo from kindergarten |
| 13:25 | nengard | yes i hope so |
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| 13:53 | edveal | Has anyone set Firefox to store you Koha usr/pwd? I just noticed if you do then your usr/pwd auto populates the usr/pwd fields when you are adding a new patron. |
| 13:53 | I am going to report this as a minor bug but thought I would see if anyone else has seen this first. | |
| 14:14 | tcohen | cait1: around? |
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| 14:23 | cait1 | yep |
| 14:25 | tcohen | marcelr++ |
| 14:25 | thanks for chairing yesterday | |
| 14:25 | ^^^ cait1 | |
| 14:26 | fridolin | edveal: indeed, Firefox auto-pupulate fields depending on there name. The names in the authentification form have the same name in the new borrower form |
| 14:26 | its a "side effect" i would say | |
| 14:27 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11925: Check ages limits when creating/updating patrons <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aeadd579a627912c6> / Bug 14195: (followup) increment number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]08ce41b0fad4d6132> / Bug 14195: TestBuilder - A random string should not be longer than the DB field <http://git.koha-comm |
| 14:28 | edveal | fridolin yes, I agree but one that could cause users problems. So I reported it as a minor bug |
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| 14:30 | fridolin | edveal: yes, good idea |
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| 14:33 | cait1 | tcohen: np |
| 14:33 | tcohen | 13650 |
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| 14:55 | cait1 | bug 13650 |
| 14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13650 normal, P5 - low, ---, wsalesky, Passed QA , Parenthesis in subject links problematic for search |
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| 15:14 | willem7684 | Hi there, I'm having trouble with Firefox being unable to open documents listed in field 856 (electronic doc links). IE did this perfectly with file:// etc. Firefox doesn't support that, but works fine if I just type the \\myserver\var\andsoandso in the address line. When I put this into field 856 however, koha adds http:// in front and it doesn't work any more. Is it possible to tell koha NOT to add http:// ? If this involves changing koha script I'll |
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| 15:27 | drojf | willem7684: do you use '4' for the first indicator maybe? |
| 15:27 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13650: Remove parens from links to fix searches <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2fd77844273a8cf7c> / Bug 14072: Followup: extra space <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bbf3415c75031b69e> / Bug 14072: Update German web installer for 3.20 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iff;h=b23557d9d8e |
| 15:27 | willem7684 | drojf: what do you mean? what is a first indicator? |
| 15:28 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:30 | drojf | willem7684: in the MARC field. see http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd856.html |
| 15:32 | willem7684 | drojf: OK I see what you mean. I'll have a look at this in the MARC info. Thanks already for this. |
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| 15:35 | tcohen | Joubu: need your help http://snag.gy/AxvMO.jpg |
| 15:35 | let me know if we can talk a sec | |
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| 15:38 | drojf | willem7684: actually, file:/// works fine for me in firefox |
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| 15:57 | willem7684 | drojf: yes, i've now found that FF is fine with file:///\\myserver\and\so\on but koha converts all the backslashes \ to slashes/ and FF gets stuck. Any ideas? |
| 15:58 | drojf | willem7684: don't use backslashes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]cheme#Legacy_URLs |
| 15:59 | willem7684 | drojf: the backslashes are for the local file system from which I try to open a doc in the browser. this works fine for IE |
| 15:59 | drojf | firefox should be fine with file:///yourserver/path/file |
| 16:00 | koha is based on standards. IE is based on… i have no idea what it is based on :D | |
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| 16:06 | willem7684 | drojf: FF works for me with file:///c:text.txt but not with file:///myserver/more over the network |
| 16:08 | drojf | willem7684: i think it's file://server/path with two slashes, if its on another computer. and three slashes locally |
| 16:11 | anyway i have never tried anything like this in koha. i'd make it available via http | |
| 16:13 | willem7684 | drojf: I've got it. 5 slashes in file://///myserver/etc indeed with all slashes. Many thanks. BTW this is about docs that should not be available for all on http. We only access these docs through our own network, but after a koha search, so that's why the koha links need to work. Thanks again! |
| 16:15 | drojf | you can use http in a local network too :) 5 slashes looks funny, but as long as it works ;) |
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| 16:20 | willem7684 | drofj: been too optimistic. The link file://///myserver/and/so works when entered directly into FF but not as koha link, although the link now correctly shows below the page when hovering over the link with the mouse... |
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| 17:05 | tcohen | cait1: sent |
| 17:07 | cait1 | tcohen: thx, whch address? |
| 17:07 | tcohen | both |
| 17:08 | cait1 | perfect htx |
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| 18:32 | tcohen | Callenderul |
| 18:32 | ^^^^ that's what smuxi wrote when I typed 'hi paul<tab>' | |
| 18:32 | hi paul_p | |
| 18:32 | paul_p | hi tomas |
| 18:33 | tcohen I mean ;-) | |
| 18:33 | tcohen | he |
| 18:35 | * paul_p | a little bit tired... woke up at 4AM, a day in airports & plane. But I'm in joensuu now, Olli country & city! for the Koha seminar Finland |
| 18:35 | nengard | fun |
| 18:36 | the seminar - not the airplane and early morning | |
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| 18:44 | tcohen | nengard: is it Nicole C Engard? or should I remove the C? Or put a dot like in C.? |
| 18:44 | nengard | It's C. |
| 18:44 | :) | |
| 18:44 | at least it is on all my publications | |
| 18:45 | tcohen | not on the release notes :-/ |
| 18:45 | or the about page | |
| 18:45 | * tcohen | will fix it |
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| 18:48 | indradg | good evening #Koha |
| 18:58 | tcohen | nengard: http://snag.gy/b8h2z.jpg |
| 18:59 | nengard | correct :) |
| 18:59 | tcohen probably because my name on my email doesn't have it ... | |
| 18:59 | paul_p | tcohen = that's the expected release date for 3.20 ? |
| 19:00 | (talking about it in my keynote ;-) ) | |
| 19:00 | tcohen | nengard: probably |
| 19:00 | paul_p: nope | |
| 19:00 | that's today | |
| 19:00 | paul_p | s/that's/what's/ ... |
| 19:00 | tcohen | i'm just playing with the script that generates them |
| 19:00 | paul_p | you mean you plan to release 3.20 TODAY ? |
| 19:00 | tcohen | no no |
| 19:00 | friday | |
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| 19:00 | tcohen | the scheduled date is May 22nd |
| 19:00 | paul_p | OK, was more expecting that ;-) |
| 19:01 | tcohen | we are giving translators the time to finish their work |
| 19:01 | otherwise we are ready :-D | |
| 19:01 | eythian++ | |
| 19:01 | paul_p | a very hard quesiton : 2 single beds in my hotel room, which one should I choose, left or right ? ;-) |
| 19:01 | nengard | tcohen - oh bugger - the help files aren't done in time for release ... again :( sorry about that |
| 19:02 | guess they'll bein 3.20.1 | |
| 19:02 | too many updates in 3.18 and 3.20 to keep up with :) hehe | |
| 19:02 | tcohen | nengard: don't worry |
| 19:02 | nengard | still have 10 things to add to the manual |
| 19:02 | tcohen | i'll get my revenge |
| 19:02 | at some point :-P | |
| 19:02 | nengard | oh no!!!! |
| 19:02 | * nengard | hides |
| 19:02 | tcohen | heh |
| 19:02 | because i'm soooo scary | |
| 19:02 | jajaja | |
| 19:02 | nengard | LOL |
| 19:03 | tcohen | that's how we laugh in spanish, on chats |
| 19:03 | =D | |
| 19:03 | nengard | makes perfect sense :) |
| 19:08 | paul_p | sweet dreams to european ppl, happy day to others ! & bye bye. |
| 19:16 | * tcohen | noticed bywaterians have changed their email addresses recently |
| 19:19 | JesseM | ? |
| 19:20 | tcohen | nengard -> nicole, same for barton? |
| 19:20 | nengard | no? I haven't - what do you see? |
| 19:20 | I'm nengardbywatersolutions.com or nicolebywatersolutions.com -- I think barton is only bartonbywatersolutions.com |
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| 19:20 | JesseM | we all have many aliases |
| 19:21 | tcohen | and you use them all :-D they should be on the .mailmap file |
| 19:21 | i'm about to push some changes to it, please let me know about your aliases by email? | |
| 19:24 | byw | |
| 19:24 | bye | |
| 19:24 | barton | nengard's right, I'm just plain ol' barton, everywhere I go (at least as far as bywater is concerned). |
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| 20:48 | rangi | morning |
| 20:50 | cait | happy birthday rangi :) |
| 20:50 | rangi | thanks |
| 20:51 | cdickinson | it's your birthday today, rangi? awesome, happy birthday |
| 20:52 | drojf | happy birthday rangi! |
| 20:52 | Dyrcona | happy birthday rangi! |
| 20:55 | magnuse | happy birthday rangi! |
| 20:55 | rangi | thanks all |
| 20:57 | hmm that latest email makes no sense to me, it sounds like he thinks the dump is doing an import? | |
| 20:58 | drojf | i did not get it either |
| 20:59 | i think you are right | |
| 21:14 | cait | hm looking at a release notes 'preview' - wondering how many of the enh are actuallybug fixes |
| 21:14 | bug 11385 | |
| 21:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Master , C4::SQLHelper should be removed |
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| 21:22 | cait | bug 13570 |
| 21:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , koha-conf.xml mentions win32 |
| 21:23 | rangi | yeah probably should go through and fix those |
| 21:23 | before the relesae notes are generated | |
| 21:24 | cait | i am right now :) |
| 21:24 | that's why i am asking weird questions :) | |
| 21:24 | bug or enh? | |
| 21:24 | rangi | both bugs |
| 21:24 | imho | |
| 21:25 | cait | thx :) |
| 21:25 | drojf | enhancement by deletion seems odd :) |
| 21:28 | cait | bug 10177 |
| 21:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10177 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha Accepts Seven "Space" Characters as a Valid Password |
| 21:28 | cait | bug? |
| 21:28 | wahanui | bug is it stores biblionumber not itemnumber |
| 21:29 | rangi | bug |
| 21:29 | and critical even | |
| 21:49 | cait | bug 13407 |
| 21:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13407 enhancement, P3, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , Remove methods which are included in the 0.36 release of PDF::Reuse |
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| 21:51 | mtompset | Greetings. |
| 21:51 | wahanui | and beatings! |
| 21:51 | mtompset | Joubu: Say it ain't so! |
| 21:52 | Have a great day, #koha. | |
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| 21:57 | cait | hm bug 11900 - i don't see this change on my installation? |
| 21:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11900 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , OPAC cart can confuse patrons |
| 21:58 | cait | ah now it's there |
| 22:06 | eythian | hi |
| 22:09 | cait | bug 7904 - bug? |
| 22:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , SIP modules handling of @INC is confused |
| 22:15 | eythian | cait: technical debt payoff |
| 22:16 | cait | so? |
| 22:16 | wahanui | so is a long road. |
| 22:16 | cait | bug or enh? |
| 22:25 | rangi | i just switched it to bug |
| 22:26 | cait | thx |
| 22:27 | hm bug 10773 sounds like an enh to me | |
| 22:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10773 major, P3, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , Add item-level descriptions for Label Printing |
| 22:28 | rangi | hmm certainly not major anyway |
| 22:29 | cait | i think i am moving it to enh |
| 22:29 | if ther eis no veto | |
| 22:29 | eythian | it's a bit of both |
| 22:29 | cait | it's something new people can use - in addition to how it worked before |
| 23:07 | wizzyrea | disable apache default site is <reply> https://i.imgur.com/V3hUcpX.png |
| 23:07 | eythian++ | |
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| 23:15 | eythian | cait: why did you remove the fullstop from bug 14103's summary? |
| 23:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Pushed to Master , PDF::FromHTML headaches related to optional discharging |
| 23:16 | cait | normalizing |
| 23:17 | for release notes | |
| 23:18 | eythian | ah, fair enough |
| 23:19 | * eythian | looks at cait's spelling |
| 23:19 | shakes head sadly | |
| 23:19 | cait | blame the mix of teachers i had :) |
| 23:19 | normalising? | |
| 23:19 | eythian | that's better |
| 23:20 | * wizzyrea | pats cait gently |
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| 23:21 | cait | and my handwritten z are prettier than the s... |
| 23:21 | wizzyrea | and there isn't a good rule for the substitution. |
| 23:21 | canada: keeps the z's, adds the U's. What? | |
| 23:22 | UK: both. US: neither AU: variable | |
| 23:22 | NZ: also variable. | |
| 23:22 | so no matter what, you're spelling it wrong. | |
| 23:23 | eythian | I think our rule for that is == the UK |
| 23:23 | wizzyrea | I figure you can't really go wrong with adding both though. |
| 23:23 | eythian | I don't recall any differences. |
| 23:23 | wizzyrea | people will still get it. |
| 23:23 | well and then there are the variations between individual words, and I personally still don't understand all of the circumstances where a z can be replaced with an s | |
| 23:24 | eythian | you're not replacing a z with an s |
| 23:24 | you're just not replacing an s with a z | |
| 23:24 | wizzyrea | :P |
| 23:24 | you are the most lovable pedant ever. | |
| 23:24 | dcook | I don't think Oz is that variable? |
| 23:24 | rangi | theres pretty much no z inside english words |
| 23:24 | eythian | try that on for size! |
| 23:24 | dcook | Except maybe zebra |
| 23:25 | rangi | yeah at the start there are |
| 23:25 | wizzyrea | and like, my full name :P |
| 23:25 | rangi | but inside |
| 23:25 | ibeardslee | just put both the z and the s in there |
| 23:25 | dcook | But yeah, I think z is a north american thing |
| 23:25 | wizzyrea | ibeardslee++ |
| 23:25 | dcook | a later addition that is |
| 23:25 | Whoops... clicked through an installation prompt? Oh windows.. | |
| 23:25 | rangi | cept for words that came from french like rendezvous |
| 23:25 | ibeardslee | isn't that an english word the french stole? |
| 23:25 | rangi | and yeah proper nouns |
| 23:25 | * dcook | swears that half the words in English appear to have come from French and the other half are from German |
| 23:25 | wizzyrea | so customi...ation? |
| 23:26 | rangi | s |
| 23:26 | ibeardslee | s |
| 23:26 | dcook | s |
| 23:26 | wizzyrea | organi...ation? |
| 23:26 | rangi | s |
| 23:26 | ibeardslee | s |
| 23:26 | wizzyrea | ^ this one I know |
| 23:26 | dcook | That is, my autocorrect will use an s :p |
| 23:26 | wizzyrea | reali...ation? |
| 23:26 | rangi | s |
| 23:26 | ibeardslee | s |
| 23:26 | eythian | dcook: English is a Germanic language, after all. |
| 23:26 | antici.......pation? | |
| 23:26 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 23:26 | ibeardslee | let's just not get into the missing 'u's |
| 23:27 | wizzyrea | oh please can we? |
| 23:27 | * ibeardslee | blames australians for that |
| 23:27 | ibeardslee | the missing ewes |
| 23:27 | wizzyrea | they're all in nz |
| 23:27 | ^.^ | |
| 23:27 | see now you've figured it out | |
| 23:28 | dcook | eythian: When I was studying French, I found a lot of words easy to understand, as they were just "fancy" English words :p |
| 23:28 | wizzyrea | I usually just follow what autocorrect tells me to do |
| 23:28 | eythian | dcook: yeah, wars and invasions will do that :) |
| 23:28 | dcook: handy hint if you're in the area: the drunker you are, the easier Dutch is to read. | |
| 23:29 | dcook | eythian: Totally. I find it interesting how it was considered "cool" to speak French as an English person back in the day |
| 23:29 | Oooh. Good to know! | |
| 23:29 | eythian | apparently many of our French terms mean nothing to French people now. |
| 23:29 | dcook | Oh yeah? |
| 23:29 | Like what? | |
| 23:29 | eythian | I'm trying to think of an example |
| 23:29 | dcook | I mean... that was definitely the case growing up |
| 23:29 | We were taught "soulier" for shoe as kids | |
| 23:30 | I said that to a French person when I was 18 and they laughed their ass off | |
| 23:30 | wizzyrea | isn't it chausseur? |
| 23:30 | for shoe | |
| 23:30 | dcook | Yep |
| 23:31 | * dcook | didn't learn that until he was 19/20... despite being raised speaking "French" |
| 23:31 | eythian | I can't think of the example, but I read/watched something about it recently. |
| 23:31 | dcook | eythian: I'm sure you're right though |
| 23:31 | ^not sarcasm | |
| 23:31 | I'm sure it happens with Icelandic and Norwegian as well? | |
| 23:31 | eythian | most likely |
| 23:33 | dcook | Wooo! Got Citrix access for a project! |
| 23:34 | Turns out it's virtually useless as everything is too locked down. Woo! | |
| 23:34 | eythian | usually if something involves the word "citrix" you know it's going to be a bad time |
| 23:34 | wizzyrea | cachet would be one of those words I think. |
| 23:34 | it means "stamp" in french but something like "prestige" in english | |
| 23:35 | eythian | faux ami |
| 23:35 | amis? I forget | |
| 23:35 | wizzyrea | fake friends? |
| 23:35 | eythian | false friend in english |
| 23:35 | wizzyrea | it'd be plural |
| 23:35 | because of the aux (if I'm remembering right it's been ages. | |
| 23:35 | ) | |
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| 23:36 | eythian | two words that are the same/similar but with quite different meanings. |
| 23:37 | dier in Dutch == animal for example (and hart == deer, which is coincidentally another.) | |
| 23:38 | dcook | ? |
| 23:38 | dier = any animal? | |
| 23:38 | hart == deer? | |
| 23:38 | * dcook | thinks hart means deer in English too? |
| 23:39 | dcook | Well, male deer I guess |
| 23:39 | wizzyrea | it's a variant yeah |
| 23:39 | dcook | In French, those are called faux amis |
| 23:39 | eythian | dcook: yeah, dier just means animal. |
| 23:39 | <eythian> faux ami | |
| 23:39 | <eythian> amis? I forget | |
| 23:39 | :) | |
| 23:39 | dcook | False cognates. There's a fancy way of saying it.. |
| 23:40 | Ah | |
| 23:40 | I should've read the scrollback : | |
| 23:40 | eythian | leads to works like dierengarten, too. For zoo. |
| 23:40 | dcook | :P* |
| 23:40 | O_o | |
| 23:40 | That is cool | |
| 23:40 | eythian | err |
| 23:40 | dierentuin | |
| 23:40 | confused my languages for a moment | |
| 23:41 | wizzyrea | animalgarden, that kind of makes sense for zoo. |
| 23:41 | oh, it's not that. | |
| 23:41 | eythian | yeah, tuin means garden |
| 23:41 | no, it is literally that | |
| 23:41 | wizzyrea | \o/ winning |
| 23:41 | dcook | Hmm I think faux is faux both when it's plural and singular |
| 23:42 | eythian | "zooological garden" if you want to get all upper crust British about it |
| 23:42 | dcook | I think there are a fair number of words like that, although I can't remember them.. |
| 23:42 | wizzyrea | it's one of those words that does something funny to it's surrounding words, I do remember that (I think( |
| 23:42 | dcook | Yeah, boo Citrix.. |
| 23:42 | wizzyrea | meh. |
| 23:42 | dcook | I think someone just needs to tweak a firewall, which makes me think this might be resolved sometime next year |
| 23:43 | wizzyrea: Hmm? | |
| 23:43 | Which word? | |
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| 23:47 | dcook | If it's faux, it'll make pronunciation differences |
| 23:47 | http://french.about.com/librar[…]n/bl-liaisons.htm | |
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