IRC log for #koha, 2015-05-15

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03:06 eythian @later tell cait oh yeah, I remember why I hadn't done anything with that module: it's full of things that need to be fixed, and the people who want it haven't made any attempt to polish it up for acceptance in debian despite handholding through the process.
03:06 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded.
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04:00 AmitG hi all
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04:28 * Francesca waves
04:31 * indradg waves back
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06:50 kivilahtio hi AmitG!
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07:44 Francesca its raining again
07:44 wonder if it'll flood in town
07:46 cait lots of rain here too
07:59 xarragon Just to be a complete jerk; we have shining sun here on the west coast of Sweden
08:00 cait heh
08:01 i like rain, just the walk to work was a bit ... wet
08:03 xarragon I have to sit with the linds down, or I can't see the screen. Makes me feel like a nerdy shut-in. Which.. might be close to the truth. :-)
08:09 cait :)
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08:58 AmitG hyea cait
09:11 cait hi AmitG
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10:25 cait bug 14172 - looking for a tester :)
10:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14172 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Acq: "Spent" lists incorrect titles and wrong total in some cases
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11:15 xarragon cait: I can test it, have looked at the patch but I have never used those parts of Koha. It will take some fiddling about and maybe I have to ask a thing or two.
11:16 cait xarragon: cool :)
11:16 i tested it with a database here and the results looked correct, but it's kind of a tricky sql... i hope it will survive more testing :)
11:18 xarragon Yay, no deps!
11:19 I love the half-insane feeling of using git on a running web application.
11:19 cait if you've never used acq the test plan might be a bit sparse
11:19 heh
11:20 xarragon Amazingly enough it has not yet broken once.
11:20 cait why shoudl it? :)
11:20 xarragon Because of my magic touch.
11:21 cait people who break stuff easily are good testers
11:21 at least that's what i keep telling myself :)
11:21 xarragon "Oh, nice cement block you have there!" *fiddle* *CRASH* *BREAK* *EGFAULT*
11:21 "It did it on it's own!"
11:22 I get a bunch of warnings about the database update btw.. Are those ignorable on a dev install with only crap data anyway?
11:25 Hmm, currencies, exchange rates. Seems pretty intricate; must be challenging to do integration of all this in the field.
11:27 Exchange rate updates would be nice to have automatic updating on I guess.
11:27 wahanui xarragon: that doesn't look right
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11:28 xarragon wahanui: I have played around with a custom patch for the database.. So I would count mine as tainted and ignore it.
11:28 wahanui xarragon: sorry...
11:28 xarragon wahanui: Ah I see, wrong person?
11:28 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, xarragon
11:39 cait yeah if you test updates that are not just a new pref or something easy, dump before thte test and restore db after
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11:55 indradg @seen cait
11:55 huginn` indradg: cait was last seen in #koha 16 minutes and 10 seconds ago: <cait> yeah if you test updates that are not just a new pref or something easy, dump before thte test and restore db after
11:55 indradg cait: around?
11:57 xarragon indradg: He spoke moments agoe, should be here or back soon.
11:58 cait: Hm, I am adding an aquistion.. Quantity is set to 0, and I am not allowed to change it, but it is required to be > 0.
12:07 well, the html inspector could change that readonly field
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13:08 indradg bug 14206
13:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14206 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, UNCONFIRMED , notice using only the 'print' template can't be deleted
13:09 indradg @later tell cait about bug 14206
13:09 huginn` indradg: The operation succeeded.
13:19 cait phone call
13:19 reading back now
13:19 xarragon: thre should be a button to add items
13:19 above the quantity field - that will make the number go up
13:25 xarragon: if you cheat changing th efield otherwise you will probably cause problems :)
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13:33 mjk hey there Koha-users and developers
13:34 nengard hola
13:34 :)
13:34 mjk weird problem here: items that I add to the catalog aren't showing up as searchable...
13:35 they can be checked in/out but i can't "find" them in either the staff or patron interface.
13:36 nengard sounds like your indexer isn't running
13:36 mjk it was working fine. i just noticed this in the last week or so...
13:37 i wonder how it got switched off
13:38 how long will it take to get things "caught up"
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13:44 xarragon cait: Yeah, I removed the record, watched the ByWater tutorial, and setup up my items properly and redid it.
13:46 mjk that's weird... i tried to do a rebuild of my zebra index and i got these errors:
13:46 09:44:52-15/05 zebraidx(3700) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory] 09:45:23-15/05 zebraidx(3700) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
13:46 cait xarragon++
13:47 mjk: you need to witch your installation to dom indexing most likely
13:47 mjk how?
13:47 cait first
13:47 check the about page, the system information tab
13:47 which version are you on?
13:47 wahanui which version are you on is, like, it in the database
13:48 mjk 3.18.06.000
13:48 cait ok
13:48 what does the system informations tab read?
13:49 mjk XML configuration file WarningThe <zebra_bib_index_mode> entry is missing in your configuration file. It should be set to dom or grs1 (deprecated). It will default to dom. InfoYour configuration file still seems to be set up for grs1. WarningThe <zebra_auth_index_mode> entry is missing in your configuration file. It should be set to dom or grs1 (deprecated). It will default to dom. InfoYour configuration file seems to be set up for dom. WarningThe <
13:49 cait mjk: that's your starting point
13:50 mjk how do i fix this? just change some lines in the config and restart?
13:50 cait basically yes and you reindex
13:50 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_to_dom_indexing
13:52 indradg cait: ping back when you have a moment
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14:08 mjk ok, lets's see if this has worked. it's rebuilding the index now...
14:09 shit... now i'm getting this error when i try to search:
14:09 Error: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 800.
14:10 cait hmmm
14:10 did you restart your zebra?
14:11 and no errors on reindexing this time?
14:16 mjk restarted and reindexing appears to be clean
14:20 well, after a full reboot, things finally seem to be working
14:22 cait yay
14:23 indradg: ?
14:23 indradg cait: I patched bug 14070
14:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14070 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Notice not saved when mandatory fields are not filled
14:25 indradg and while working on it, came across another issue which I've filed under bug 14206 as UNCONFIRMED. I know why it is happening - passed params to C4::Letters::getletter()
14:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14206 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, UNCONFIRMED , notice using only the 'print' template can't be deleted
14:25 indradg cait: but would like to hear if it should be treated as a bug before proceeding further with a patch
14:26 cait hm it sounds like a bug
14:27 maybe add Joubu cc - just in case
14:27 indradg ok! doing it
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14:54 indradg hi andreashm
14:54 andreashm hey indradg
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14:59 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:59 Can I get a quick Passed QA for bug 14204?
14:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14204 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Fix t/db_dependent/Labels/t_Batch.t failing test from Bug 12911
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17:10 xarragon Are shipping costs supposed to be excluded from the 'Spent' amount for aquisitions/funds?
17:16 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Handling_Prices <- Specifies to add shipment cost, but this is not done on the aqusitions start page
17:16 I'll check the code
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17:43 tcohen hi
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18:21 tcohen @later tell eythian do you think you can have the new dependencies packaged for releasing 3.20 next week?
18:21 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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18:22 tcohen @later tell eythian they are libpdf-writer-perl and libpdf-fromhtml-perl
18:22 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:22 tcohen wnickc: thanks for the patch
18:23 wnickc tcohen: np, is that sufficient?  or should I add a test to make sure the id does change from 0 when items are added?
18:24 tcohen the more you test, the better
18:24 but please fill a new bug :-D
18:24 because I'm about to push it
18:24 wnickc can do, once I assure myself I can add a test without breaking things again :)
18:29 tcohen you won't, don't worry
18:29 you successfuly fixed them so, should feel more confident
18:29 :-D
18:29 wnickc thanks
18:40 tcohen farewel, SQLHelper
18:40 you were a good tool while you lasted
18:43 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11385: Remove SQL::Helper <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c9d1432522b61b3cd> / Bug 12633: Fix specific default values <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d1f4dfb7042636cfc> / Bug 12633: Remove SQLHelper in C4::Members <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]25e71306f45bcda0f
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18:47 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
18:48 Sorry for the after-the-fact sign off, tcohen. :)
18:48 tcohen mtompset: no worries, i'm glad you tested it anyway
18:50 less diags btr, yay!
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18:51 tcohen @later tell eythian I really need to talk to you about those packages, i'm worried that they don't pull the right dependencies, so even if you package them I might need to patch PerlDependencies to add them. So I need to know how are you thinking of solving the packaging issue
18:51 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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18:52 tcohen mtompset: have you already fixed t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t ?
18:52 mtompset That sounds familiar... let me check.
18:53 tcohen yes
18:53 13673
18:53 mtompset Yes.
18:53 I took indradg's sign off virginity with it. ;)
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18:54 tcohen hahah
18:54 i recall
18:55 so, his first signoffs on master
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18:57 mtompset tcohen: I was hoping someone would sign off all my silence warning bugs.
18:57 But only bgkriegel got most of them.
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18:57 mtompset He missed some though.
18:58 for example bug 14110
18:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14110 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Silence warnings t/00-load.t
18:58 tcohen just tell him
18:58 indradg taking of sign-offs... can someone take a look at bug 14070
18:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14070 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Notice not saved when mandatory fields are not filled
18:59 mtompset That was on my to do list, indradg. :)
18:59 indradg yay! mtompset++
18:59 mtompset perhaps another tit for tat, indradg? :)
19:00 indradg sure... no harm in giving a shot
19:02 mtompset {insert explitive expressing surprise}
19:03 It tells me to fill it in, but then loads back to the original page?!
19:03 I hope your patch fixes this, indradg.
19:03 indradg mtompset: that it does
19:04 mtompset: however I ran into something else over there... bug 14206
19:04 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14206 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , notice using only the 'print' template can't be deleted
19:04 New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13986: Implement fix for OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8e905611c2d829886> / Bug 13986: Printing a list only prints the results of the page you are viewing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]239b9c9cb5759e3e9> / Bug 13673: (QA followup) Add license <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]koha.git;a=commit
19:05 indradg tcohen++
19:05 mtompset one patch at a time.
19:05 let's not get too far along the bunny trail of discovered errors.
19:05 indradg aye
19:08 mtompset okay. I see the test case for the next bug. :)
19:16 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13591: Pass OPACBaseURL to rss creation process <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bb135c6d00da225e6>
19:17 Disneydave Hello all - will Koha run on Ubuntu 14.04?
19:19 tcohen Disneydave: absolutely
19:20 nengard hola Disneydave
19:20 tcohen the release manager, for instance, uses 14.04 to work on Koha
19:20 nengard hehe
19:20 Disneydave Awesome - will upgrade to 14.04
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19:26 mtompset Disneydave: Yes. Though, Debian is what the majority of developers use. :)
19:26 indradg: I got a little more explicit in the test plan. :)
19:26 sign off coming. :)
19:27 indradg ok!
19:27 tcohen bye #koha
19:27 have a nice weekend
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19:35 indradg thanks mtompset! nice of you to elaborate on the test plan. I was more worried with not being able to delete a notice that didn't have the email one defined.
19:35 mtompset But you don't have a patch on the bug to sign off. :P
19:36 indradg 14206? Almost ready
19:36 it is a simple fix
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19:43 mtompset Let me know when it is.
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19:58 mtompset @seen cait
19:58 huginn` mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 31 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <cait> maybe add Joubu cc - just in case
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20:12 mtompset Nice quote, indradg|dinner
20:12 indradg mtompset: one of my all time favs... can prolly recite half the script
20:17 mtompset indradg: I was also looking at bug 7571
20:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7571 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kohapatch, Failed QA , Maintain exchange rate history
20:18 indradg kohapatch... that must be Amit Gupta's
20:18 mtompset Yes.
20:18 Personally, i think it is a good idea.
20:19 The problem is the whole description and iso code mess we have in the currency section.
20:19 indradg it is... the multicurrency thingie needs proper planning and an RFC
20:19 mtompset I was hoping cait or someone else would be around to discuss it.
20:19 Do we have a Currency.pm?
20:20 indradg yes
20:20 mtompset Mmmm... really? C4/Currency.pm? Koha/Currency.pm?
20:20 We only seem to have a currency.pl
20:21 Ah... it's part of C4/Budgets.pm
20:22 Oh... we have a Koha/Number/Price.pm
20:23 And there's a CurrencyFormat system preference?!
20:26 indradg aargh... don't get me started on CurrencyFormat syspref
20:27 i tried contacting the author of the original CPAN module we are using... no reply
20:27 mtompset Number::Format?
20:29 indradg Locale::Currency::Format
20:32 The Indian numerical formatting is like this - for 100 million it is - 10,00,00,000
20:32 mtompset ^
20:32 mtompset {insert explitive}
20:32 What kind of strange methodology is that?
20:32 indradg plus the Indian Rupee symbol isn't on the file -  "₹" (Unicode U+20B9)
20:33 mtompset So for a 1000 million? how would that look, indradg?
20:34 How do you know where the separators go?
20:34 indradg mtompset: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I[…]Use_of_separators
20:35 " is used in India as well as in Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka." - thats a good 1/5 of the global population... it needs to be on-board
20:36 ICU had added it a long back
20:36 mtompset So, in blocks of 2 except the last block of 3?!
20:36 indradg yep... just the first thousand
20:37 everything else moves in 100s... very metric :P
20:38 mtompset But why 1000?!
20:39 Everything in 100's across the board would make sense to me... but that exception at the end is strange.
20:39 indradg beats me... will have to look up books on vedic maths
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20:44 tcohen hi
20:45 mtompset tcohen: indradg professed his love for you, while you were gone. ;)
20:45 indradg lol
20:45 mtompset -- love of pushing his first signed patch. :)
20:46 indradg well... i did use his commit to obsolete yours
20:46 :P
20:46 tcohen hey, i was pleased to do it. he's been around for a while (before i showed actually)
20:46 mtompset I guess that makes him an old man. :)
20:47 tcohen tcohen?
20:47 wahanui well, tcohen is obsessed with automated testing :)
20:47 mtompset tcohen: I put in a blurb for the dev news. :)
20:48 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "blurb" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/109
20:48 tcohen we have a section for that
20:48 indradg tcohen: when you find some free time from RM pressures... do have a look at bug 14070, it needs to pass QA
20:48 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14070 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Signed Off , Notice not saved when mandatory fields are not filled
20:48 indradg mtompset: did you mention a bug you wanted me to test?
20:48 mtompset indradg: though he has the power and authority to do so, sometimes he let's the QA team take a look first. :P
20:49 take a look at the paste, indradg. Find one of those numbers not signed off. :)
20:50 tcohen indradg: yeah, you don't want an angry QAM,
20:50 she transforms from Katrin into Katrina ;-)
20:50 indradg tcohen: be it far from me to anger cait :P
20:50 cait lol
20:51 * cait is not a hurricane
20:51 indradg heh
20:51 cait ... all the time
20:51 tcohen heh
20:51 mtompset Is Katr really an X? :)
20:51 Hurricane reference better than mine.
20:52 (bad attempt at warrior princess)
20:52 cait++ # for her general awesomeness in QA. :)
20:54 tcohen mtompset: have you already sent that email?
20:54 indradg tcohen: off-topic - is there an en SRT file for the "We are Koha" video? I would like to translate that to bn_IN... recently I showed it to a group of students who liked it... but they don't speak a lot of english
20:54 mtompset To kohanews, yes.
20:55 tcohen indradg: sure!
20:55 indradg thanks
20:55 tcohen we should definitely have more videos
20:55 on the Koha channel
20:56 don't you think NateC?
20:58 indradg: sent
20:59 indradg mtompset: taking a look at bugs 14110, 14111, 14118, 14120, 14121
21:00 tcohen: got it! thanks! :)
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21:30 tcohen gmcharlt: we don't have a syntax for specifying indexes depending on the value of ind1 or ind2, right?
21:32 jcamins?
21:32 wahanui jcamins is, like, insane
21:36 cait it would b enice to have one
21:37 hm also on the existance of another subfield with a specific value
21:37 like the $2s
21:37 or... ldr pos 7 = s ... serial title index
21:43 tcohen cait, could you think of the use cases?
21:44 cait building an index specific to one classification as specified in 082 $2
21:44 having a search index only containing serial titles
21:44 i got ideas heh :)
21:44 @marc 084
21:44 huginn` cait: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8]
21:44 cait ah 084 then
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22:57 indradg bgkriegel: i messed up while testing bug 14111 :(
22:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14111 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Patch doesn't apply , Silence warnings t/Auth_with_shibboleth.t
22:59 bgkriegel :) Not a big deal. Just manually obsolete your patch, de-obsolete the one from Mark, then sign again, this time both patches
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23:34 mtompset Sorry... I'm trying to fix it up.
23:49 Okay... described how to test.
23:57 bgkriegel: If you don't get warns in current master, check with apache 2.4 ;)
23:58 bgkriegel Ok, will try :)

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