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| 00:29 | dcook | If you just need space, go with AWS? |
| 00:30 | Hmm, I guess that comment was hours ago... | |
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| 00:33 | mtompset | But do you get shell access with AWS? And AWS is hosted in the US. Not keen on the patriot act. |
| 00:33 | Nor after 180 days its their data. | |
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| 00:39 | dcook | AWS has heaps of servers outside the US |
| 00:40 | Of course, it's an American company, so it might still count under American law? | |
| 00:40 | And of course you get shell access with AWS O_o | |
| 00:40 | Anywho... *wanders off again* | |
| 00:48 | I love when a website has a limit on password length, but it doesn't enforce it in the frontend, which means you create an account with a truncated password... but you don't know at what point they truncated it | |
| 00:48 | :D | |
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| 00:53 | bairie | hi..can i request some help here? |
| 00:54 | hello? | |
| 00:54 | anyone? | |
| 00:54 | wahanui | i think anyone is free to organize one at any time :-) |
| 00:54 | bairie | is there any koha expert here? need some assistant |
| 00:59 | ibeardslee | bairie: normal suggested process is to just ask. |
| 01:00 | people are usually about, although not usually sitting waiting for someone with a problem ;) | |
| 01:02 | bairie | i have an issue....i hosted a koha system in ubuntu in a vmware |
| 01:02 | recently it was down...when i turn back on....the database only shows data from year 2012 | |
| 01:03 | there is no latest data up to 2014 /2015 | |
| 01:03 | how can this happen? | |
| 01:06 | ibeardslee | first thing to check would be if you running a snapshot of the filesystem as of 2012 |
| 01:07 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 01:07 | ibeardslee | check dates/times on the system to check that all is ok and you are running the version of koha and ubuntu you expect to be running |
| 01:07 | bairie | ibeardslee: i have did that and it's running the existing snapshot |
| 01:08 | and its only snapshot available...there is no other snapshot created previously | |
| 01:08 | ibeardslee | ok |
| 01:09 | bairie | thousands of book records was lost due to this issue...i have no idea how to solve it |
| 01:09 | i'm not even good at mysql | |
| 01:10 | eythian | bairie: that really sounds like an issue with vmware and its disk images/snapshots. I'd check your system logs and see if the jump in dates is what you'd expect. |
| 01:13 | rangi | also if you installed with packages, check /var/spool/koha/ |
| 01:13 | for backups | |
| 01:13 | eythian | but, if vmware did a rollback on you, probably the only option you have is to restore from your external backups. |
| 01:13 | rangi | yeah |
| 01:15 | bairie | i really not fimiliar with this.... |
| 01:16 | and bad thing is there is no backup was done | |
| 01:17 | what should i look into /var/spool/koha? any specific file? | |
| 01:17 | rangi | what is your koha instance called? |
| 01:17 | actually just do ls /var/spool/koha | |
| 01:17 | what is in there? | |
| 01:17 | bairie | wait....let me go inside the server |
| 01:18 | eythian | you had thousands of records with no backups? that sounds like a recipe for disaster. I guess it has to happen to everyone some time... |
| 01:18 | wahanui: backups | |
| 01:18 | wahanui | backups are every night...and nothing changed this morning |
| 01:18 | eythian | hmm, I need to find something more interesting to be that factoid. |
| 01:18 | wizzyrea | https://38.media.tumblr.com/84[…]1se6q8so4_400.gif < why we do backups |
| 01:19 | bairie | this server was taken care by an external vendor...because we didnt renew the contract, no maintenance was done...when this vendor come, he said that the database was lost |
| 01:19 | wizzyrea | :( |
| 01:20 | bairie | however, the vendor did not have any access to the server. so i cannot say it is a sabotage frm the vendor |
| 01:20 | eythian | you'd probably only need access to the vmware console to roll back a snapshot |
| 01:21 | however, what you should first verify is if that's what really happened. | |
| 01:23 | bairie | i have tried to /var/spool/koha but it said no such file or directory |
| 01:23 | rangi | darn, not installed via packages |
| 01:23 | the next place to look would by in the /var/log/ directory | |
| 01:23 | bairie | ok. wait a min |
| 01:23 | rangi | maybe take a look at the syslog |
| 01:24 | bairie | also return same statement,. no file or directory |
| 01:25 | eythian | what did you actually enter? |
| 01:25 | because I've never seen a system with no /var/log director | |
| 01:25 | y | |
| 01:31 | bairie | i have entered /var/log/directory |
| 01:33 | rangi | no |
| 01:33 | just try | |
| 01:33 | cd /var/log/ | |
| 01:36 | bairie | ive tried this var/log/syslog |
| 01:36 | and i can see all the log | |
| 01:36 | so which i should check | |
| 01:36 | eythian | the dates |
| 01:36 | wahanui | the dates are in format yyyy-mm-dd |
| 01:36 | eythian | see what the date before the recent dates is. |
| 01:37 | rangi | ls -l |
| 01:37 | should show you the dates | |
| 01:38 | eythian | well I was thinking the dates inside the file, that way you can tell the last shutdown before the recent startup |
| 01:39 | rangi | ah yep that would be good to check too |
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| 01:40 | bairie | ok..i can see the date...so what i need to do next? |
| 01:40 | eythian | What do the dates tell you about the system and the missing data? |
| 01:40 | rangi | what is the date? |
| 01:40 | wahanui | it has been said that the date is circled ;) |
| 01:42 | bairie | there are so many file here,....which one i should referred? |
| 01:43 | rangi | are there any that have 2012 ? |
| 01:43 | they should all be 2015 | |
| 01:43 | bairie | a lot.... |
| 01:43 | wahanui | well, a lot is possible already without having to rewrite the templates |
| 01:43 | eythian | syslog usually has the most stuff in it |
| 01:43 | rangi | then yes, its definitely a vmware problem, try looking inside the syslog |
| 01:44 | but if lots of the files are still 2012 then its likely you restored a snapshot from 2012 by accident, or vmware did something broken | |
| 01:44 | bairie | syslog got two files here...syslog and syslog.1 |
| 01:45 | but this two files dates are dated today | |
| 01:45 | wizzyrea | yeah, you booted it today :/ |
| 01:45 | eythian | have a look inside the files |
| 01:45 | they have dates in there | |
| 01:47 | bairie | owh shit...i need a root pwd |
| 01:47 | only the vendor knows | |
| 01:48 | eythian | do you have an account with sudo? |
| 01:48 | it'll be hard to do much without a root password. | |
| 01:50 | bairie | sudo dont have.....try to find the root pwd |
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| 01:52 | * Francesca | waves |
| 01:54 | Francesca | wizzyrea, rangi you guys around? |
| 01:54 | wizzyrea | a bit, sup? |
| 01:54 | Francesca | not much |
| 01:55 | I thought I'd just let u know that I can't spend much time on here atm | |
| 01:55 | unis really busy so I won't be able to get a lot of work done till mid year break | |
| 01:55 | wizzyrea | ah yeah, school comes first :) |
| 01:56 | Francesca | I'll try and stick my head in during mid year |
| 01:57 | wizzyrea | that would be cool :D |
| 01:57 | Francesca | but in the mean time I'll do little bits of work and stuff in between school work |
| 01:58 | bairie | ahhh shitt....what is the su password... |
| 02:01 | wizzyrea | bairie: try katikoan |
| 02:03 | (for the root password) | |
| 02:04 | bairie | wizzyrea: nope |
| 02:04 | doesnt wor | |
| 02:04 | work | |
| 02:06 | wizzyrea | bummer, I was kinda hoping. |
| 02:09 | bairie | aaarghhh.... |
| 02:09 | dcook | You could probably just reset your root password if the server is just for Koha |
| 02:09 | eythian | yeah, if you can get console access to it, you could reset it. |
| 02:10 | Not convinced it'll help though, my money is on something happening at the vmware layer. | |
| 02:10 | * dcook | did this at Kohacon13 before realizing that he'd been typing in the wrong password all along and that he actually knew what the password was... d'oh |
| 02:10 | eythian | Linux/mysql doesn't just forget a chunk of data. |
| 02:10 | dcook | ^ |
| 02:10 | wizzyrea | but not having an up-to-date snapshot would. |
| 02:11 | dcook | I'm also curious about "the database only shows data from year 2012" |
| 02:11 | Which table in the database? | |
| 02:11 | How is one seeing this data? | |
| 02:11 | mysql commandline? mysql query browser? Koha? | |
| 02:11 | bairie | i not fimiliar with koha...that's why asking ur guys whether i can retrieved back the latest database |
| 02:11 | * Francesca | laughs at dcooks password story |
| 02:12 | Francesca | I've done the same thing before |
| 02:12 | dcook | Francesca: Hehe. I ended up resetting it to the exact same password that it was before :p |
| 02:12 | eythian | bairie: you need to have something to recover from to get the latest data back. |
| 02:12 | you need to have that data somewhere | |
| 02:12 | Francesca | you can do that? |
| 02:12 | dcook | bairie: Also, what data are you looking at that makes you think it's from 2012? |
| 02:12 | Francesca: Hmm? | |
| 02:12 | Francesca | some things (apple) make you choose a new password everytime |
| 02:12 | rangi | dcook: the logs are from 2012 .. the whole machine is from 2012 |
| 02:13 | Francesca | and I always forget my apple password |
| 02:13 | bairie | ok...when the librarian open their database to check on book loan and book data entry |
| 02:13 | * Francesca | waves at rangi |
| 02:13 | bairie | it just shows record on 2012 |
| 02:13 | dcook | Francesca: Ahh, yeah. This was just the system root password |
| 02:13 | Francesca | ok |
| 02:13 | bairie | no data on the latest database |
| 02:13 | even the books record also was on 2012 | |
| 02:13 | dcook | rangi: Ah. I didn't notice that in the scrollback. |
| 02:14 | rangi | bairie: you would need a back up of the database .. and you could restore from that, but without a back up, or a recent snapshot there really is nothing you can do |
| 02:14 | dcook | ^ |
| 02:14 | bairie | understand that rangi. but how come database could be loss? and rollback to 2012? if lost...should be lost everything rite? |
| 02:15 | rangi | no |
| 02:15 | its not just the database | |
| 02:15 | its everything | |
| 02:15 | bairie | system was setup on 2011..... |
| 02:15 | rangi | somehow you/vmware restored a snapshot from 2012 |
| 02:15 | wizzyrea | everything on the machine, right now, is from the last snapshot, which was in 2012 |
| 02:15 | at least, that's what the evidence you've presented suggests. | |
| 02:16 | bairie | in vmware, if the machine was not proper shutdown, it will be created a snapshot...even i use this snapshot, data still in 2012 |
| 02:16 | same with the original image currently used | |
| 02:16 | rangi | yep, so before that latest snapshot, it was restored to 2012 |
| 02:17 | the short story is, it is not a koha problem, but a vmware one .. so we can't help im sorry, you will probably need to find a vmware expert | |
| 02:18 | i would also try asking the support company you stopped paying if they have any backups | |
| 02:18 | but without a 2015 snapshot .. or backups .. there is not really anything we can do, if you had a db backup we could tell you how to load that in, but without the backup we cant help | |
| 02:19 | im sorry | |
| 02:19 | bairie | ok wait...i think i can access the syslog... |
| 02:19 | what i need to find inside? | |
| 02:20 | rangi | what the syslog will do is confirm that the snapshot it restored from was 2012, it wont let you fix it |
| 02:20 | but you can look back in the file, and see what the dates in it are | |
| 02:20 | wizzyrea | if it goes 2012, 2012, 2012, 2012, 2015, you'll know. |
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| 02:20 | bairie | any keyword? |
| 02:21 | got two syslog here.... | |
| 02:21 | syslong and syslog.1 | |
| 02:21 | which one | |
| 02:21 | wahanui | which one is that? The fixed navbar? |
| 02:21 | rangi | id look at syslog.1 |
| 02:22 | bairie | then i should see which date? the incident date |
| 02:22 | rite? | |
| 02:22 | * Francesca | waves goodbye |
| 02:22 | eythian | the date of the log entries |
| 02:22 | every log entry has a date | |
| 02:23 | when is the last date before 2015 in those files, and how does it correspond with what you expect | |
| 02:23 | bairie | a lot...need to scroll down |
| 02:24 | eythian | yes, you will need to scroll a lot |
| 02:24 | bairie | last record only for yesterday |
| 02:24 | eythian | yesterday is still in 2015 |
| 02:24 | bairie | there is no record on the incident date |
| 02:24 | i mean the log | |
| 02:24 | not the database | |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | there won't be, because all of that data is gone. |
| 02:25 | eythian | what is the date at the top of the file? |
| 02:25 | bairie | may 7th |
| 02:25 | eythian | what file are you looking in? |
| 02:26 | bairie | im not sure....thats u guys ask me to do |
| 02:26 | open the syslog | |
| 02:26 | and im not sure what file to look at | |
| 02:26 | eythian | yes, and you said there are two files |
| 02:26 | what one did you actually end up looking in? | |
| 02:26 | bairie | i open syslog.1 |
| 02:26 | as u said | |
| 02:26 | sorry...rangi ask me to look at syslog.1 | |
| 02:27 | eythian | ok, so try syslog.2.gz |
| 02:27 | bairie | wait |
| 02:27 | ok...what i should find here? | |
| 02:28 | eythian | the dates. still the dates. |
| 02:28 | bairie | on the top is may 6th |
| 02:28 | eythian | so you've been running this for quite a while before discovering the issue? |
| 02:28 | bairie | yes |
| 02:28 | eythian | how long? |
| 02:28 | bairie | 3 months |
| 02:29 | it was happen on 30th mar | |
| 02:29 | eythian | then anything useful is almost certainly gone |
| 02:29 | bairie | so like 1 month plus |
| 02:29 | eythian | OK, so you probably don't have useful log data. |
| 02:30 | If you have no external backups, and vmware doesn't have a more correct snapshot somewhere, your data is almost certainly gone. | |
| 02:30 | bairie | owh ok...so there is no way i can retrieve back the database rite? |
| 02:30 | wizzyrea | not if you don't have a backup :( |
| 02:30 | eythian | you don't have the database, vmware has presumably swallowed it. |
| 02:31 | bairie | can this database stored somewhere in the koha mysql folder or something? |
| 02:32 | eythian | if you use packages, then it's backed up elsewhere on the system. But you've been running it with bad data for three months, any backups would have long rolled over. |
| 02:32 | wizzyrea | by default it only keeps 2 days |
| 02:32 | eythian | Also, if it is (as it looks) an old snapshot, then all that would be gone anyway. |
| 02:32 | bairie | i have access the mysql log |
| 02:32 | eythian | because snapshots apply to the whole disk |
| 02:33 | wizzyrea | I'm sorry, as far as we can tell, it's gone. |
| 02:33 | eythian | yes, but if you have only what is on that machine, it is all gone because everything since 2012 has gone from that machine. |
| 02:33 | bairie | on 2nd April...got error said database not properly shutdown..starting crash recovery |
| 02:33 | is that mean anything? | |
| 02:33 | eythian | dunno. |
| 02:34 | we still don't have really enough information to do much more than speculate. | |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | the time for recovery is long since past, it would seem. |
| 02:34 | bairie | the sequence data in ibdata files not match...thats the error written |
| 02:36 | eythian | that suggests that mysql was improperly shut down at some point. |
| 02:36 | the crash recovery stuff should fix that. | |
| 02:37 | bairie | ok..it seems that i cannot do anything with the database |
| 02:37 | thanks for ur help guys | |
| 02:37 | eythian | np, pity it wasn't useful |
| 02:37 | bairie | just wondering whether this koha can be work with RDA? |
| 02:38 | eythian | I think there's some support in the newest versions, but I'm not sure how complete it is |
| 02:38 | wizzyrea | it's getting better |
| 02:38 | answer is: koha can ingest RDA | |
| 02:38 | and it's getting better at displaying it | |
| 02:38 | you might need a framework | |
| 02:38 | RDA framework? | |
| 02:38 | wahanui | rumour has it RDA framework is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]le:Export_RDA.sql |
| 02:39 | wizzyrea | ^ you can get it from there |
| 02:41 | dcook | I think that one is out of date nowadays |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | Oh? |
| 02:41 | you should update it if you have a newer one ;) | |
| 02:41 | dcook | Hehe. True as. |
| 02:41 | We actually had some outdated RDA frameworks, so my to do list has a task for double-checking frameworks here | |
| 02:41 | I'll have to remember the wiki one as well | |
| 02:42 | bairie | any of u have done it? |
| 02:43 | dcook | Yeah, we have heaps of libraries using RDA |
| 02:44 | All you need is an up-to-date MARC Bibliographic Framework | |
| 02:44 | We use custom displays that allow clients to show RDA fields which aren't necessarily shown at the moment in Koha | |
| 02:44 | bairie | ok...i will go throug the docs |
| 02:44 | i will come here if i got prob | |
| 02:44 | thanks guys!! | |
| 02:47 | wizzyrea | good luck - oh drat he's gone. |
| 02:57 | mtompset | ARG! Why do I find more bugs when I am looking at bugs. |
| 02:58 | wizzyrea: Want a good laugh? take a look at C4/Biblio.pm look for sub TransformHtmlToXml. Notice the parameter list. Try looking for ind_tag in the file, and then laugh and cry. | |
| 02:58 | wizzyrea | I try not to look in there. |
| 02:59 | ^.^ | |
| 02:59 | mtompset | maybe dcook is crazy enough? :) |
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| 03:05 | dcook | Nah, I'm heaps busy atm |
| 03:05 | yo pianohacker | |
| 03:05 | Come on DSpace... I have the extra dependencies installed already... just work, son | |
| 03:05 | mtompset | Greetings, pianohacker. |
| 03:06 | Oh Lord God of computing be merciful to dcook. :) | |
| 03:06 | pianohacker | hallo |
| 03:11 | mtompset | pianohacker: Care to confirm that many a program are trying to get and pass a non-existent ind_tag parameter? :) |
| 03:11 | pianohacker | mtompset: that rings vague bells |
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| 03:15 | mtompset | Hey, papa found it last year. |
| 03:16 | papa | eh, what? |
| 03:16 | wahanui | eh, are there other packages than Debian? |
| 03:16 | mtompset | I was looking at bug 13180 |
| 03:16 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13180 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Failed QA , Errors when acquiring from the new improved staged file, empty indicator warning |
| 03:16 | mtompset | When I noticed something cringe worthy in C4/Biblio.pm |
| 03:17 | ind_tag wasn't even used. | |
| 03:17 | That's when I decided to search for ind_tag, and I found your bug 11247 papa | |
| 03:17 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11247 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Remove unused params from TransformHtmlToXml() |
| 03:17 | papa | ah that one |
| 03:17 | mtompset | Why did you remove indicators though? |
| 03:18 | papa | yeah, painful :) |
| 03:18 | mtompset | ind_tag is obviously not used. |
| 03:19 | From what I can tell, it should be used, but whether it gets passed and processed properly is another issue. :) | |
| 03:19 | I see lots of indicator1 indicator2 type things on template files. | |
| 03:20 | papa | well sure, at least I sparked some interest ;) |
| 03:20 | it was a long time ago... | |
| 03:28 | * mtompset | grumbles. |
| 03:28 | mtompset | We don't even have any test coverage of the TransformHtmlToXml function. |
| 03:30 | pianohacker | ... |
| 03:30 | that function name alone fills me with terror and doubt | |
| 03:30 | papa | didn't I make some when doing that too many calls to item details thing? |
| 03:31 | mtompset | Nothing in master. |
| 03:31 | papa | ah yes, still in the process |
| 03:32 | anyway, I thought indicators were an abandoned concept, so if I'm wrong please destroy that bug | |
| 03:32 | mtompset | pianohacker: You are too funny. :) |
| 03:32 | No, it is a useful bug... ind_tag isn't used at all. | |
| 03:33 | Could you post what tests, if any, you have on the bug? | |
| 03:37 | papa | zilch |
| 03:39 | sorry, I'm doing some node.js and my brain is vapourised, it was XSLTParse4Display() | |
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| 03:45 | mtompset | No, TransformHtmlToXml |
| 03:45 | Oh... your work. | |
| 03:45 | papa | yeah, I confused it] |
| 03:45 | mtompset | Never mind. |
| 03:45 | wahanui | Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. |
| 03:45 | mtompset | Anyways. I should sleep. |
| 03:46 | wizzyrea | papa: they are making you do note.js now? |
| 03:46 | Francesca | good afternoon |
| 03:46 | wizzyrea | node.js I mean |
| 03:46 | hi Francesca | |
| 03:46 | Francesca | my kitties are slowly destroying a box |
| 03:46 | mtompset | 2048. ;) |
| 03:46 | Francesca | and I am procrastinating badly on a journal |
| 03:46 | wizzyrea | I'm told that's a thing cats do ^.^ |
| 03:47 | Francesca | it is |
| 03:47 | papa | yeah, perl is not cool enough for fairfax any more |
| 03:47 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea papa Francesca |
| 03:47 | ibeardslee | papa: fairfax .. aren't they a news site without grammar, spelling and fact checkers? |
| 03:48 | papa | yep, that lot |
| 03:49 | * Francesca | waves at ibeardslee |
| 04:03 | * ibeardslee | waves back |
| 04:10 | Francesca | ibeardslee: sup |
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| 04:26 | * Francesca | waves at cdickinson |
| 04:26 | cdickinson | you're a sight for sore eyes |
| 04:27 | hi Francesca, just got destroyed by a test :P | |
| 04:27 | Francesca | what kinda test? |
| 04:28 | cdickinson | a Mobile Computing one |
| 04:28 | Francesca | fun |
| 04:28 | cdickinson | basically on all that sort of technology, honours-level stuff. It was hell |
| 04:28 | Francesca | I have a harmony test on monday |
| 04:28 | I can imagine | |
| 04:29 | cdickinson | :P |
| 04:29 | Harmnony test? what's that going to be like? | |
| 04:30 | Harmony* | |
| 04:30 | can't even spell properly | |
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| 04:35 | cdickinphone | Whoops |
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| 04:42 | Francesca | interesting |
| 04:42 | wahanui | somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 04:43 | Francesca | wahanui has the right idea |
| 04:43 | wahanui | Francesca: huh? |
| 04:43 | Francesca | anyone around? |
| 04:49 | cdickinphone | Just |
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| 04:51 | cdickinphone | Popped out for a bit |
| 04:52 | Francesca | oh good I have company |
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| 05:56 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:57 | eythian | hi magnuse |
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| 06:07 | magnuse | kia ora eythian |
| 06:08 | beer o'clock came and went already? | |
| 06:08 | eythian | well, there's a fresh hop thing happening at a bar here that I'm thinking of heading to, but beer o'clock was looking pretty quiet today. |
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| 06:27 | dcook | Beer, beer, beer |
| 06:27 | * dcook | isn't sure what else to contribute |
| 06:27 | cdickinson | did someone say... beer? :D |
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| 06:46 | magnuse | hooray for bgkriegel! |
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| 07:37 | dcook | Laterz all |
| 07:41 | cait | hi markvandenborre |
| 07:41 | oh | |
| 07:41 | was looking for marcelr :) | |
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| 08:15 | magnuse | MARC-- |
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| 10:59 | markvandenborre | cait: hi you too |
| 10:59 | even if it was meant for marcelr | |
| 10:59 | I remember you being really helpful when I was setting up koha for our music academ | |
| 10:59 | y | |
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| 11:10 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 11:16 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 11:16 | drojf | hei magnuse |
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| 11:29 | kivilahtio | Any idea is the UseTransportCostMatrix used anywhere? |
| 11:29 | afaik in 3.16 it does nothing | |
| 11:31 | Also I need to implement similar floating control for Items than the transport cost matrix is | |
| 11:33 | But I donät know should the floating be controlled by a matrix or a view like "Library Transfer Limits" | |
| 11:34 | I think I'll take the matrix because they are much more informative | |
| 11:35 | cait | kivilahtio: it is used to my knowledge yes |
| 11:36 | did you turn it on? | |
| 11:36 | there is also a whole set of unit tests for it | |
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| 11:40 | drojf | how is the policy these days? can i enhance something in a C4 module.pm file, or does it have to go out of C4 then? |
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| 11:42 | drojf | that is probably a cait question ;) |
| 11:46 | cait | huh? |
| 11:46 | you can enhance, but has to be covered by a unit test | |
| 11:46 | drojf | you are ruler of QA land, aren't you? |
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| 11:46 | cait | heh, but not RM |
| 11:46 | that would be my take on it | |
| 11:47 | as long as enh is not implementing something completely new | |
| 11:47 | drojf | oh those tests i never learned how to do |
| 11:47 | no it's adding youtube to the video streaming. it's a pretty small patch actually | |
| 11:48 | magnuse | yay |
| 11:48 | drojf | @later tell nengard got a youtube video working with direct access to the web file (the first option we talked about). :) http://abunchofthings.net/koha[…]/koha-youtube.png |
| 11:48 | huginn` | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:49 | drojf | it adds a dependency that is packaged in jessie, but not in wheezy though :/ |
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| 11:52 | magnuse | drojf: is it any chance that could be violating the terms of service? if you are playing youtube video without the "overlay interface"? or am i getting the wrong impression from that screengrab? |
| 11:52 | i don't know the terms of service, it just struck me as something they might not like | |
| 11:54 | drojf | magnuse: i am not sure, i was wondering about that too. what is catalogued, is the regular url. the link to the webm file that is played is resolved on the fly, as it is not persistent, IP address bound and i don't know what other crazy things more. that is basically what is done once you open the website direcly in your browser and don't use flash |
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| 11:55 | magnuse | sounds like a nice piece of wizzardry :-) |
| 11:56 | drojf | that yould break immediately if youtube changes something ^^ |
| 11:58 | the other option would be a new, exclusive youtube feature doing the regular youtube embedding that you find on blogs and stuff. but it would be a new feature, way less cool (i think :P) and people lose control over what is actually loaded/displayed in koha. | |
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| 12:14 | magnuse | trur |
| 12:14 | true | |
| 12:19 | bag | :) |
| 12:21 | drojf | what are you so happy about, bag? :P |
| 12:21 | cait | bag is always happy :P |
| 12:21 | bag | :) |
| 12:21 | heh | |
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| 12:21 | bag | espresso machine is at temp so I can make espresso |
| 12:23 | drojf | oh. i should make an espresso too |
| 12:23 | xarragon | I am too lazy; I just drink hot water. |
| 12:23 | drojf | lol |
| 12:26 | * liw | has a thermos full of tea, brewed from leaves, and sips it while waiting for the work day to end |
| 12:28 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 12:28 | bag | good day magnuse |
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| 12:37 | magnuse | bag: yes so it is, against all odds |
| 12:39 | drojf | rule 2.4 of the youtube TOS says i should print the TOS. i am not reading this ^^ |
| 12:40 | can't we hire a lawyer to read it, please? | |
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| 12:45 | drojf | actually i would argue those things are relevant to a library offering streams via youtube, not to koha as a project |
| 12:54 | "you agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Website itself, the YouTube Player, or such other means as YouTube may explicitly designate for this purpose;" | |
| 12:54 | "you agree not to (or attempt to) circumvent, disable or otherwise interfere with any security related features of the Service or features that (i) prevent or restrict use or copying of Content or (ii) enforce limitations on use of the Service or the content accessible via the Service;" | |
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| 13:00 | drojf | how would i know what "security related features" they use? |
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| 15:16 | mtompset | @seen tcohen |
| 15:16 | huginn` | mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 49 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <tcohen> LOL |
| 15:17 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 15:33 | chris_n | heya mtompset |
| 15:33 | wahanui | mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
| 15:33 | mtompset | @later tell tcohen I was noting https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pub[…]ember/030492.html |
| 15:33 | huginn` | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:34 | * chris_n | did not realize there were non-coding aspects to life... ;-) |
| 15:34 | mtompset | Greetings, chris_n |
| 15:34 | Well, I survive based on donations. | |
| 15:35 | So, I need to talk with people about the ministry I'm involved in. :) | |
| 15:35 | * chris_n | wishes his zebra would just get over it |
| 15:36 | chris_n | any idea what's going on here: 11:34:05-08/05 zebraidx(11939) [warn] No such record type: dom./home/cnighswonger/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config.xml |
| 15:37 | or if it would cause searching to return no results after a reindex? | |
| 15:38 | mtompset | Click the link I just told tcohen. |
| 15:38 | I know how to solve that. :) | |
| 15:38 | the path is wrong. | |
| 15:38 | you need to edit the cfg files to point to the correct path. | |
| 15:39 | 64-bit installs use lib64 not lib. :) | |
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| 15:50 | chris_n | strange, but on this ubuntu install the zebra modules appear in /usr/lib |
| 15:51 | and changing the path does not fix things up... weird | |
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| 15:53 | mtompset | really?! |
| 15:54 | So the path entered matches where the modules actually are? | |
| 15:54 | chris_n | yup |
| 15:55 | /usr/lib/libidzebra-2.0.so.0 | |
| 15:55 | /usr/lib/libidzebra-2.0.so.0.0.1 | |
| 15:55 | # modulePath - where to look for loadable zebra modules | |
| 15:55 | modulePath: /usr/lib | |
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| 17:11 | chris_n | so it turns out that the zebra modules were not installed in-spite of installing idzebra-2.0 |
| 17:12 | now they are at: /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0/modules | |
| 17:12 | and now I get the extremely descriptive error: zebraidx(3173) [warn] extract error: generic | |
| 17:12 | generic-- | |
| 17:12 | mtompset | Boo. |
| 17:15 | chris_n | so here is a little more intelligence |
| 17:15 | 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: Entity: line 188: | |
| 17:15 | 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: parser | |
| 17:15 | 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: error : | |
| 17:15 | 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: Extra content at the end of the document | |
| 17:15 | 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: <record | |
| 17:15 | 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: ^ | |
| 17:15 | 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [warn] extract error: generic | |
| 17:15 | looks like a corrupt record | |
| 17:16 | mtompset | Haven't encountered that. Sorry. |
| 17:16 | * chris_n | has |
| 17:16 | chris_n | its just been soooo long ago |
| 17:17 | mtompset | chris_n: Are you sure that they are not in ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/idzebra-2.0/modules? |
| 17:18 | Because mine have some weirdness like that. :) | |
| 17:19 | chris_n | nothing there |
| 17:19 | mtompset | Enjoy your corrupted record. |
| 17:19 | chris_n | Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS |
| 17:19 | here | |
| 17:19 | mtompset | I need to step out. |
| 17:20 | $ vi ~/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg | |
| 17:20 | $ echo modulePath: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/idzebra-2.0/modules | |
| 17:23 | Anyone who can tweak the zebra-biblios.cfg for the Jenkins D8... please look into doing something like that. | |
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| 17:48 | chris_n | @later tell khall I'll have to hold off on testing 14167 due to a stubborn zebra instance |
| 17:48 | huginn` | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:15 | wnickc | ashimema: around? |
| 19:28 | ah, time differences, weekend :) | |
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| 19:53 | mtompset | wnickc: I suppose so. :_ |
| 19:53 | :) | |
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| 20:10 | mtompset | lovely dumps and rejoins. :) |
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| 20:19 | indradg | hello #koha |
| 20:36 | mtompset | Greetings, indradg. :) |
| 20:36 | indradg | hiya mtompset |
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| 21:21 | mtompset | indradg: Care to try a tat on bug 13673? :) |
| 21:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13673 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Remove warnings from t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t |
| 21:22 | indradg | on it |
| 21:26 | mtompset | thanks. :) |
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| 22:57 | indradg | hi anyone around? |
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