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00:57 | wizzyrea | you can blackhole the jquery libraries if you want to skip things that are inside that |
00:57 | dcook | blackhole? |
00:57 | wizzyrea | blackbox, I guess it's called |
00:57 | dcook | blackbox? :p |
00:57 | wizzyrea | the little eyeball in the firefox debugger |
00:58 | under the list of sources | |
00:58 | "toggle blackbox for source" or something | |
00:58 | dcook | Lessee... |
00:58 | I have a few other things to do, but I'll find that eyeball first | |
00:58 | wizzyrea | just means, basically "I don't care about what goes on inside this source" |
00:58 | dcook | mmm, but I actually do care, as I think it might be the problem |
00:58 | :/ | |
00:59 | wizzyrea | well that's a bug with jquery then :P |
00:59 | dcook | Or with how we've used it :/ |
00:59 | But then that should show up in the debugger even with the jquery source black boxed maybe.. | |
01:00 | wizzyrea | probably yes |
01:00 | dcook | I'm certainly intrigued :) |
01:00 | wizzyrea | it's pretty tedious to trace, and most of the bugs are probably in our stuff |
01:01 | dcook | Probably |
01:01 | This one is rather nasty.. | |
01:01 | eythian: I was able to reproduce it in Firefox today :p | |
01:01 | wizzyrea | seems unlikely that we'd use jquery in a way that would actually lead to an actual jquery bug (but not unheard of) |
01:01 | the delete thing? | |
01:01 | dcook | Just now in fact.. |
01:01 | yeah | |
01:02 | Hmm, the inspector isn't working so hot in Firefox.. | |
01:03 | Although I'm sure I've used it before.. | |
01:04 | Does it not show HTML anymore? :S | |
01:04 | * eythian | still uses firebug |
01:05 | dcook | I can see why :/ |
01:05 | wizzyrea | I use the firefox inspector, it works just fine |
01:05 | dcook | Hmm, it must just not like me |
01:05 | eythian | in my case I just use it because I've always used it, no real reason. |
01:05 | wizzyrea | very very occasionally, you need to close it and reopen it |
01:05 | eythian | I ought to give the inspector a real go one day |
01:05 | dcook | I'm just getting a big gray box where my HTML should be |
01:05 | wizzyrea | and then it works |
01:06 | dcook | Ah, you're a wiz wizzyrea |
01:06 | * dcook | should really remember to turn it off and turn it back on again more often |
01:06 | wizzyrea | unlucky :/ |
01:06 | that seems like a recent bug | |
01:06 | dcook | Oooo |
01:06 | Autoprettify minified sources | |
01:06 | That's nice | |
01:07 | Although it also auto blackboxes minified sources :S | |
01:07 | wizzyrea | hm, that hasn't been my experience |
01:08 | dcook | Maybe you changed that option? |
01:09 | wizzyrea | highly unlikely |
01:10 | dcook | Hmm not sure the debugger can process javascript on the page.. |
01:10 | "/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl" doesn't go anywhere itself, so it can't load the page, which means I can't add breakpoints :( | |
01:11 | Although adding breakpoints doesn't seem to work in general.. | |
01:11 | wizzyrea | seriously, it works fine for me, you are just unlucky ;) |
01:11 | dcook | haha |
01:11 | I think I'm just unlucky too :) | |
01:11 | wizzyrea | also I'd clear the cache |
01:11 | and make sure that it's really broken. | |
01:12 | dcook | I probably just don't know how to use it |
01:12 | I'm used to the Chrome and IE debuggers | |
01:12 | wizzyrea | however you'll be happy to know that I just confirmed your bug in firefox. |
01:12 | I clicked cancel, and it deleted my item | |
01:12 | dcook | I'd be happier if you knew how to fix it :p |
01:12 | But yeah, it's nasty :/ | |
01:13 | wizzyrea | if I had to guess, it might be to do with the "return to results" thing |
01:13 | might try turning it off and see if the issue goes away | |
01:13 | dcook | return to results? |
01:13 | Interesting | |
01:13 | wahanui | somebody said Interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
01:14 | dcook | I was wondering if it related to the _() function... but when I replace it with a "return confirm('Are you sure?');" that has the same behaviour |
01:14 | Actually, I'm starting to dig the Firefox debugger now :p | |
01:15 | * dcook | is fickle |
01:15 | wizzyrea | kek |
01:15 | but really, I've seen other bugs where the result browser was messing up JS because it changes the URL of the page. | |
01:15 | dcook | Yeah? |
01:16 | wizzyrea | yep |
01:16 | ...I'm having trouble remembering what it was, but I do remember that it was the shelf browser that broke it | |
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01:25 | BobB | good morning/afternoon |
01:25 | eythian | hi BobB |
01:25 | * BobB | waves across the ditch |
01:25 | wizzyrea | BobB: are you feeling moist? |
01:26 | BobB | it is SOOOO wet here |
01:26 | wizzyrea | or, rather, how's the weather |
01:26 | BobB | and blowing |
01:26 | like summer in Wellington, I guess :) | |
01:26 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
01:26 | that's more like spring really, but yes. :) | |
01:27 | BobB | dcook about? |
01:27 | wizzyrea | 21kmh wind - keke |
01:27 | dcook | BobB: sort of |
01:28 | I saw some sunlight a few minutes ago, and now the rain has come once again.. | |
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01:28 | BobB | your first East Coast Low, dcook? |
01:29 | the last one like this was in 2007 | |
01:29 | dcook | I guess? Honestly, I've personally been in worse storms here in Sydney |
01:29 | BobB | hope you're dry and safe |
01:29 | dcook | I guess I've just been lucky this time around |
01:29 | Yep, dry and safe :) | |
01:29 | BobB | you must be in the right part of town |
01:30 | dcook | Of course, I look like I'm more of a woodsman than a librarian at the moment with my current clothes :p |
01:30 | BobB | we're fine here too, just need to keep dodging the falling trees |
01:30 | dcook | Yeah, I'm a straight shot from work. Boss drove me home past two nights, and the morning commute has been quite nice. |
01:30 | BobB | :) |
01:30 | dcook | Fortunate thing about living where I do... no trees ;) |
01:30 | And I've just been lucky to miss the torrential rain | |
01:30 | Had to go to the vet yesterday a couple times but fortunately it was during light rain and light traffic | |
01:31 | Maybe that's why the computers are acting up today. Need to balance out the universe for all my luck these past few days | |
01:32 | wizzyrea: Now cancel isn't deleting the item for me after a bit of playing with the code... | |
01:32 | I bet if I reset the code though it'll still work as expected and not be buggy.. | |
01:32 | wizzyrea | well goo di guess. |
01:32 | good* | |
01:32 | dcook | We'll see I guess |
01:32 | wizzyrea | ok |
01:32 | so | |
01:32 | if it's only occasional | |
01:32 | dcook | I've had too many weird moments over the past few days if things working/not working |
01:32 | lol | |
01:33 | Yup | |
01:33 | wizzyrea | that really suggests the result browser to me |
01:33 | what happens if you go to edit an item that doesn't have a result browser on it | |
01:33 | dcook | git reset --hard HEAD and cleared the cache... now Delete isn't deleting on cancel |
01:33 | This one does have the result browser in it still :S | |
01:33 | Wait... no it doesn't | |
01:33 | Hmm | |
01:33 | Why on earth did it have the result browser before.. | |
01:34 | Oh because I got to it through a search.. | |
01:34 | wizzyrea | example: cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl?biblionumber=160 this |
01:34 | dcook | I suspect you're a genius, wizzyrea |
01:34 | * dcook | does some more testing |
01:34 | wizzyrea | vs this /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl?biblionumber=160&searchid=scs_1429666421864 |
01:34 | dcook | That's what I'm just about to do :) |
01:34 | Yep. That looks like it's it. | |
01:34 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
01:35 | dcook | All hail the great and powerful wizzyrea! |
01:35 | wizzyrea | and it would have come in ~3.14 |
01:35 | dcook | wizzyrea++ |
01:35 | wizzyrea | gosh. |
01:37 | I wish I could remember what it was that I was working on that led me to this problem originally... | |
01:38 | but I thought there was a patch gah my mind is made of swiss cheese. | |
01:39 | fyi fast way to an item editor that doesn't have the search result is to click edit items from the results | |
01:39 | the browse results, I mean. | |
01:40 | fast way to an item editor that doesn't have the browse results is to click edit items from the results | |
01:40 | there we go | |
01:40 | dcook | I have no idea what you just said :) |
01:41 | wizzyrea | if you want to get to an additem.pl that doesn't have a searchid in the url, you can click Edit items from the search results |
01:41 | dcook | You know... I think there might be a Javascript error with "var allVisibleCookieKeys = Object.keys( $.cookie() );" ... although possibly just in IE so I'll ignore that for now.. |
01:43 | Ah! I think I might have found it | |
01:44 | Bossman was thinking that there were competing handlers.. | |
01:44 | $('a[href*="biblionumber="]').click(function (ev) { | |
01:44 | That would do it | |
01:44 | Once again, I reiterate that wizzyrea is the best | |
01:44 | wizzyrea | :) |
01:44 | yay, happy to help | |
01:45 | dcook | If I were able to compose songs, I'd compose a song in honour of your bug fighting virtue! |
01:45 | wizzyrea | heh, I wondered if it was because the url parameters were not what it was expecting |
01:45 | dcook | But I'm not that creative and my throat's a bit sore at the moment anyway.. |
01:45 | wizzyrea | but I didn't have the time/need to go actually looking |
01:45 | dcook | Yeah, I probably shouldn't be looking at this right now |
01:45 | wizzyrea | pf |
01:45 | dcook | But... |
01:46 | Yeees | |
01:46 | Commented out that handler and it works | |
01:46 | Now, why on earth was it ever there.. | |
01:47 | Another reason for folks to document their code... | |
01:47 | It's obvious what the code is doing... but not why it's doing it.. | |
01:47 | Although I can bet why.. | |
01:49 | Oh... oh wow... that's... oh wow | |
01:49 | Without that line, lots of things break... | |
01:50 | Well not lots of things | |
01:50 | Just *grumbles* | |
01:50 | This could've been done with less magic | |
01:51 | wizzyrea | hehe |
01:52 | dcook | So many ways to do things :S |
01:52 | wizzyrea | there's a bit of over magic around the local book covers as well. which is where I've been floundering about off and on the last day or so. |
01:53 | dcook | Ah yeah. That sounds familiar. |
01:54 | wizzyrea | http://paxpokemonleague.net/wp[…]2012/04/WhKAT.gif |
01:54 | like that | |
01:54 | wahanui | like that is hard to vote on. :) |
01:54 | dcook | hehe |
01:56 | wizzyrea | http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]-that-bug-kohails this is totes you right now |
01:57 | http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]his-bug-was-fixed < more like me | |
01:57 | dcook | hehe |
01:57 | I think that's been more applicable for me in past situations | |
01:57 | Like the time when I found the problem in some Javascript was... either a comma or a "return true" in a bad place. | |
01:59 | Interesting... the bad Javascript might not even actually work the way it was intended to work | |
01:59 | So it might just be totally evil | |
02:01 | Or maybe just the Edit link because it has a #edititem at the end.. | |
02:05 | Ugh, writing magic to fix magic.. | |
02:05 | Me thinks this'll have to wait until next time.. | |
02:06 | wizzyrea | this may be a silly thing, but can you change the click handler to not expect the biblionumber at the end of the url? |
02:06 | ^ that may be daft. | |
02:07 | dcook | I wish :( |
02:07 | It's essentially re-writing the URLs for all the other actions on the page | |
02:08 | I think the thing to do is probably handle the "searchid" server side | |
02:08 | Although now that I think about it... maybe you can't | |
02:08 | Because it gets the id from a cookie | |
02:08 | Although I guess you should still be able to get it at that point.. | |
02:08 | * dcook | isn't a fan of the result browsers |
02:09 | dcook | But, that bit of JS doesn't work for the "Edit" link anyway, as it ends in "#edititem" |
02:09 | So it appends "searchid=scs_1429666452994" after #edititem... so the browser processes neither instruction | |
02:09 | err value | |
02:11 | wizzyrea | ah, yeah |
02:13 | dcook | Well, I'm super pleased that we found the cause! |
02:13 | The fix can wait for now | |
02:13 | * dcook | has to go fix a few others things now |
02:16 | eythian | "surname" => $usersurname, |
02:16 | #possibly a law problem | |
02:16 | "branch" => $userbranch, | |
02:16 | what even is that comment doing there? | |
02:16 | dcook | O_o |
02:17 | wizzyrea | it's a... wot. |
02:17 | dcook | Cannot commute. |
02:17 | wizzyrea | maybe someone was noting that keeping the surname would be illegal in some places? |
02:18 | eythian | I have no idea. |
02:18 | that comment is nearly 10 years old. | |
02:21 | dcook | :S |
02:24 | eythian | so, if you have basic auth set up to authenticate people, then weird things happen if the user logs in but doesn't have a koha account. |
02:24 | Especially under plack. | |
02:24 | They can end up logged in as another user. | |
02:25 | * eythian | adds some "should we actually log them in" logic. |
02:25 | wishes again that the auth system was pluggable. | |
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02:38 | dac | eythian: Yikes, that sounds dicey |
02:38 | eythian | yeah |
02:38 | dac | With the OpenID Connect, I create an account for them if they don't already have one |
02:38 | eythian | the basic auth doesn't, it just stores their userid and sets $loggedin=1; |
02:39 | dac | Oh, is basic auth an actual thing we have? |
02:39 | eythian | Mostly you end up with some sort of undefined user. But a couple of times I got a real person, under plack. |
02:39 | dcook | Scary |
02:39 | How does the basic auth even work? | |
02:39 | Also, I agree about it being pluggable.. | |
02:39 | eythian | dcook: yeah, you can put basic auth on apache and Koha ought to just work with it. |
02:40 | dcook | Huh... I thought I saw that somewhere. Interesting |
02:40 | Now let's see if I can return to the problem I was trying to solve hours ago :p | |
02:40 | Nothing like borrower records not saving but not producing useful errors.. | |
02:40 | On a remote system.. | |
02:41 | * dcook | dislikes SQLHelper.pm |
02:42 | eythian | yep |
02:42 | dcook | Oh, also super legacy system that has been upgraded over time |
02:42 | With a enormous database | |
02:42 | an* | |
02:42 | * dcook | twitcheas |
02:42 | dcook | twitches* |
02:42 | See? I can't even type straight! | |
02:50 | Oh... I wonder... | |
02:51 | Damn. | |
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03:00 | mtj | hmm koha list seems to be down? |
03:00 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha | |
03:02 | koha list website, that is.... emails seem to be arriving still? | |
03:04 | eythian | http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/a[…]lifetime-disaster <-- dcook |
03:09 | dcook | Hehe pretty much |
03:10 | Hmm, so the database schema appears to be the same, the code is the same, and the data is the same... | |
03:11 | Yet one generates errors and the other doesn't | |
03:11 | Anyone have ideas about: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Incorrect integer value: '' for column 'guarantorid' at row 1 ? | |
03:12 | * dcook | thinks it's google time |
03:12 | dcook | Aha... might be a difference in the mysql version.. |
03:15 | wizzyrea | or mariadb vs mysql |
03:15 | dcook | 5.5.5 vs 5.5.33 |
03:15 | Both Maria | |
03:15 | wizzyrea | well there you go |
03:17 | dcook | I'm going to blame SQLHelper for this anyway :p |
03:18 | I wonder if DBIx::Class has any smart handling for that.. | |
03:18 | Although I don't know.. | |
03:18 | bag | I’m sure it’s found in there somewhere http://io9.com/the-most-incred[…]ar-war-1699029622 |
03:19 | or in here dcook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTF5Gh9EGT0 | |
03:19 | heh | |
03:21 | dcook | hehe |
03:22 | That clip never gets old | |
03:22 | Ah, yes, "STRICT_TRANS_TABLES" strikes again | |
03:22 | I think this causes a few problems throughout Koha.. | |
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03:46 | eythian | https://twitter.com/Creative_O[…]610586627/photo/1 <-- dcook |
03:50 | wizzyrea | is that really real? |
03:51 | ibeardslee | yep ... |
03:51 | wizzyrea | liar. |
03:51 | eythian | ibeardslee wouldn't lie |
03:52 | wizzyrea | hrmph. |
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04:01 | bag | HA great pic |
04:01 | dcook | I should have that as my background every time it rains |
04:14 | bag | at least you are not smelling the type of bombs my dog is droping underneath my desk right now dcook |
04:14 | I’d take a bunch of rain over that | |
04:23 | wizzyrea | ew smelly dogs. |
04:33 | irma | hi all |
04:33 | wizzyrea | hi irma, staying dry? |
04:34 | irma | but my wet weather sailing gear is not far :-) |
04:34 | eythian | may need it :) |
04:34 | irma | it's been so noisy at night ... |
04:35 | no damage for us though so that is a relief. | |
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04:36 | irma | About Koha and LTI (Learning Tools Interoperability) |
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04:37 | irma | does Catalyst apply this to Moodle or mahara? |
04:37 | eythian | https://owncloud.org/blog/ownc[…]latform-natively/ <-- ibeardslee |
04:38 | irma | we were asked if Koha offers LTI support |
04:39 | eythian | I'm not sure, I haven't heard of it. |
04:39 | I'd ask Kristina if she's managed to escape Australia | |
04:40 | BobB | I haven't seen her floating by? |
04:40 | ibeardslee | eythian: who cares about windows? |
04:40 | irma | eythian it is a statement here http://www.slideshare.net/Sush[…]ent-system-sushil |
04:41 | eythian | She got trapped there for an extra day, so you may see her drifting easterly. |
04:41 | irma | slide #3 |
04:42 | eythian | irma: hmm, I imagine it can be done. I just don't know what it'd entail :) |
04:42 | irma | thanks eythian. |
04:42 | eythian | I'm sure if you emailed Kristina, she'd know about it on the Mahara/Moodle side, we've done nothing koha-wise with it. |
04:43 | irma | will do eythian ;-) |
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05:14 | eythian | anyone want the great honour of signing off bug 13932 for me? You know you want to! |
05:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13932 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Allow a header to be considered trusted to provide the userid |
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05:31 | cait | good morning #koha |
05:32 | eythian | hi cait |
05:32 | cait | hi eythian |
05:33 | still at work? | |
05:33 | eythian | yeah, need to update a prod server, so waiting until ... about now, actually. |
05:33 | * dcook | thinks eythian is always at work! |
05:36 | dcook | Ah, ebooks |
05:36 | "Place a hold"... on an ebook | |
05:36 | Which has actually already been returned on the system, so it's not like it needs to be physically processed... | |
05:44 | eythian | ebooks are weird. |
05:44 | well, "loaning" ebooks is weird. | |
05:44 | ebooks themselves are fine | |
05:44 | dcook | Agreed |
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06:08 | dcook | So I like to think that while my hands are large... my fingers are rather pointed and precise |
06:08 | Yet, laptop keyboards still manage to feel like tiny toys... | |
06:09 | * dcook | wonders how people do it with larger hands... |
06:09 | eythian | I spend a couple of months travelling with one of the original eeePCs that are the size of a book. After returning home to my real laptop, it felt like I was typing on a giant table. |
06:09 | dcook | hehe |
06:10 | I found my 2010 eeepc to be rather comfortable actually | |
06:10 | Although I recall the book size ones were intimidating | |
06:10 | eythian | this was older than that |
06:10 | dcook | Actually, I guess I did whole blog entries in Greece using only my thumbs on a S3 |
06:10 | But that was blogging not programming :S | |
06:10 | eythian | http://lnxg.ca/images/eeepc.jpg <-- it was one of these |
06:10 | dcook | Yeah I knew two people with these |
06:11 | eythian | it was just so I had something to use while travelling that had was light and had good battery. |
06:11 | dcook | Neat little things |
06:11 | That's why I bought an eeepc too | |
06:11 | Then ended up using it at uni over the years | |
06:11 | eythian | time to go |
06:11 | * eythian | & |
06:11 | dcook | Ran up Koha on a Debian VM on one oce |
06:11 | laters | |
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06:41 | reiveune | hello |
06:45 | dcook | salut reiveune |
06:45 | reiveune | salut dcook |
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06:49 | fridolin | hie there |
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06:56 | drojf | morning #koha |
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06:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
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07:04 | dcook | heya europeans :) |
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07:12 | indradg | good afternoon #koha |
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07:17 | * magnuse | waves from trondheim again - sitting next to paul_p for a few more hours |
07:17 | cait | how is it? |
07:18 | and morning #koha | |
07:18 | paul_p | hello #koha |
07:19 | cait yesterday it was sunny. So sunny that we couldn't stay on our des, it was too hot (just sitted behind a large window) | |
07:19 | today, it's cloudy. | |
07:19 | so no "too much sun" problem ;-) | |
07:19 | cait | thx for the weather update ;) |
07:19 | and how is interest in Koha? | |
07:20 | paul_p | about the conference: we saw at least one person during each break. |
07:20 | no business signed, but during those conference, you don't expect to sign anything. Just just socialise, make ppl know you exist, ... | |
07:21 | I made a sponsor talk yesterday just before lunch (15mn). Presented Open Source in 2 slides, BibLibre in 2 slides, then each product we support in 1 slide each (except for Koha, that had 2 ;-) ) | |
07:21 | magnuse | and it has been good in that regards, i think |
07:21 | and quite a lot of people saw that presentation | |
07:22 | there were some other sponsors who presented at the end of the day, and very few people stayed for that | |
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07:22 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:22 | wahanui | hola, gaetan_B |
07:26 | cait | hope you 2 have fun :) |
07:29 | dcook | cait: Figured out that problem, if you didn't notice :) |
07:29 | magnuse | oh we do! ;-) |
07:29 | dcook | wizzyrea figured out that it was just with the result browser, then I found the snippet of javascript causing the problems.. |
07:32 | All right. Outta here. Night all :) | |
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07:44 | mveron | Hi #koha |
07:46 | The dashboard displays a runtime error: http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ (DBI connect) | |
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07:48 | Brooke | o/ |
07:57 | mveron | Ok, dashboard is back... |
07:58 | magnuse | Brooke! |
07:58 | wahanui | I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM. or a ratbag. |
08:07 | Joubu | magnuse: I have a problem with the nl-search script. It uses the last occurrence of C4::Members::Search, which uses the last occurrence of SQLHelper... |
08:08 | magnuse: when you search for a patron in the search box "Social security or card number", on which fields the search should be done? | |
08:10 | magnuse | Joubu: ooh, let me see if i can remember... |
08:10 | it should search on card number or a specific extended patron attribute | |
08:11 | Joubu | magnuse: ok I see, thanks |
08:11 | nothing is specified in the code | |
08:13 | cait | kill SQLHelper! |
08:13 | * magnuse | does not want to stand in the way of killing sqlhelper |
08:14 | magnuse | Joubu: i should have said that in a comment at least, i guess |
08:16 | Joubu | magnuse: I have a patch, it seems to work on my side, but it would be good you check on yours. To be sure It won't break you nl stuffs :) |
08:16 | your | |
08:16 | magnuse | Joubu: i will definitely test that! :-) |
08:22 | thanks for the patch Joubu - i might not get to test it today, but it is very near the top of my todo list | |
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08:23 | Joubu | thanks magnuse |
08:23 | cait | oook.... i have created a new index with dom |
08:23 | and my value is searchable | |
08:23 | but nt with the search index i defined | |
08:23 | i have added it to Search.pm | |
08:23 | anyone an idea? | |
08:24 | oh | |
08:24 | i think i know | |
08:25 | wrong -dev directory | |
08:26 | Joubu | cait++ for the good catches! |
08:27 | cait | :) |
08:27 | i was worrie thi smorning all my findings would turn out to be testing errors by me | |
08:27 | got a little late | |
08:29 | glad you could make sense of it | |
08:29 | Joubu++ | |
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08:55 | magnuse | oh it sure is reassuring that i can use 856$2 to specify that a resource is available on gopher |
08:55 | @marc 856 | |
08:55 | huginn` | magnuse: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) |
08:55 | magnuse | @more |
08:55 | huginn` | magnuse: [a,b,c,d,f,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,2,3,6,8] |
08:55 | magnuse | @marc 856$2 |
08:55 | huginn` | magnuse: unknown tag 856$2 |
08:55 | magnuse | @marc 8562 |
08:55 | huginn` | magnuse: unknown tag 8562 |
08:55 | magnuse | @marc 856 2 |
08:55 | huginn` | magnuse: Access method The access method when the first indicator position contains value 7. |
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09:54 | magnuse | @marc 856 q |
09:54 | huginn` | magnuse: Electronic format type An identification of the electronic format type, which is the data representation of the resource, such as text/HTML, ASCII, Postscript file, executable application, or JPEG image. Electronic format type may be taken from enumerated lists such as registered Internet Media Types (MIME types). |
10:05 | magnuse | @later tell nengard looks like Show856uAsImage is not mentioned in the docs - is that by design? |
10:05 | huginn` | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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10:29 | cait | Joubu: bug number vconfusion on 10866? |
10:29 | ah, you already saw, ignore me | |
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11:38 | khall | cait: updated bug 1917 with a followup |
11:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1917 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add RSS Feeds for Lists |
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12:14 | cait | khall: thx! |
12:15 | remember tomorrow is the deadline for enh | |
12:15 | khall | I'd really like to see this get in! |
12:16 | cait | i think i can do the last test tonight |
12:16 | but there are still more in the queue to pick on | |
12:16 | khall | excellent! thanks cait! |
12:16 | Joubu: have you ever seen the browse by last name break for the ajax patron search? | |
12:16 | I have a site where it works for some letters, but not others | |
12:17 | it just sits at "Processing..." | |
12:17 | cait | but it's not c? |
12:17 | Joubu | khall: the json is broken, something is not correctly escaped |
12:17 | khall: try http://jsonlint.com or similar to validate the json | |
12:18 | khall | I get no errors in the js console |
12:18 | cait | i had a library reporting that the c didn't work in patron browser - turned out to be an adblocker picking it up |
12:18 | Joubu | khall: no it's normal, no js error, but DT does not manage to parse it |
12:18 | the json | |
12:18 | wahanui | it has been said that the json is easy |
12:18 | khall | thanks Joubu! |
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12:19 | Joubu | khall: actually I already found an issue, but it was a data encoding error |
12:20 | cait | khall: do you think you can fix my complaint about the -d script too |
12:20 | ? | |
12:20 | khall | cait: bug number? |
12:21 | cait | 11084 |
12:31 | khall | I'll see what I can do cait! |
12:32 | cait | also... we won't get the qa queue empty... but maybe we can push it a little more until tomorrow? |
12:33 | khall | sounds good! |
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12:53 | cait | i need help with that :) |
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13:04 | Joubu | It would be great to see 11759 PQA before tomorrow :) |
13:04 | bug 11759 | |
13:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11759 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch checkout |
13:05 | cait | :) |
13:05 | Joubu | it would be a good ft for 3.20, a lot of people asked for it on the bug report |
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13:06 | Joubu | (that's a complete objective point of view) |
13:06 | completely | |
13:06 | well, don't know it's what I wanted to say :) | |
13:07 | khall | cait: posted followup and reply to bug 11084 |
13:07 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11084 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Delete biblios on Leader 05 =d |
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13:08 | tcohen | ufff |
13:08 | good morning! | |
13:08 | * tcohen | had connnectivity issues so far |
13:08 | cait | morning tcohen |
13:09 | khall: comment anwered .9 | |
13:09 | :) | |
13:09 | khall | cait: can do! |
13:11 | cait | i am a librarian... i love documentation :) |
13:12 | khall | cait: done! |
13:12 | tcohen | i'm worried about tests failing on jenkins |
13:12 | * tcohen | is starting to freak out |
13:13 | khall | still failing? not good. Is there any way to get in there and run them interactively? |
13:15 | tcohen | i can |
13:17 | khall | maybe get in there and mess with the unit tests from jenkins then? get'em to work and make a patch? |
13:17 | nengard | cat++ |
13:17 | cait++ | |
13:17 | gerundio | hi guys, I'm working on a patch for bug 14036 |
13:17 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14036 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "Date::Calc::Add_Delta_YM(): not a valid date" error when accessing subscription detail |
13:17 | nengard | for the documentation comment :) hehe |
13:18 | gerundio | I'm followed the instructions in http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]all_and_Setup_Git to setup my development environment |
13:18 | nengard | @later tell magnuse Show856uAsImage was in the manual .... off to check where it went to :) |
13:18 | huginn` | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
13:18 | gerundio | I'm getting this message in the log: "OPAC: Database update needed, redirecting to maintenance. Database is 3.1805100 and Koha is 3.1900026" |
13:19 | I don't really want to update the DB as I want to keep using the version 3.1805100 which we're testing | |
13:19 | Joubu | tcohen: Which tests failed? |
13:19 | tcohen | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Build/testReport/ |
13:19 | Joubu | the isissuedtopatronsomethig,n?? |
13:19 | tcohen | the same on all nodes |
13:20 | i'm extrancting the current DB | |
13:20 | gerundio | is it possible for me to switch to that git version branch and create the patch there? |
13:22 | nengard | @later tell magnuse that's because it's not called 'show' it's called 'display' http://translate.koha-communit[…]isplay856uAsImage |
13:22 | huginn` | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
13:33 | nlegrand | Hey #koha |
13:34 | is it ok to open a bug and say in it we would like to sponsor someone for it and ask for quotation? | |
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13:37 | cait | nlegrand: not sure how many read it then |
13:37 | maybe better to contact vendors directly or use the mailing list | |
13:37 | and link to the bug in your email | |
13:41 | nlegrand | cait: well I was going to create the bug so I can cite it in the mailing list :) and I thought, "anyway, why not saying we would like to sponsor this directly here also" but I was just wondering if it was awkward or unconvenient :) |
13:41 | mveron | nlegrand: There is a dropdown "Change sponsored?" on the bug detail page. You can set it to "Seeking developers". |
13:41 | cait | hm it didn't happen often so far - but might be worht trying :) |
13:41 | yep | |
13:41 | nlegrand | ok ^^ |
13:41 | cait | i'd leve your negotiations out, but looking for contacts seems ok |
13:42 | what do you want to get developed? | |
13:42 | nlegrand | i ask to write to an adress for negotiations |
13:42 | cait: specific quotas for on-site checkouts | |
13:42 | cait | ah cool :) |
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14:03 | cait | nlegrand: i know something like that from other ILS - different 'checkout modes' |
14:17 | Joubu++ # fixingtests :) | |
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14:18 | cait | nlegrand: did you find a fix for the collation problem with uppercase letters? |
14:19 | bug 13810 | |
14:19 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13810 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Prevent updatedatabase.pl from breaking because of case insensitive utf8 collation |
14:23 | nlegrand | cait: not really, right now, my fix is to comment the upgrade in updatedatabase.pl... |
14:24 | cait: but since it does'n seems to affect so many fields, maybe the right way to do it would be to specify COLLATE utf8_bin for some fields ? | |
14:26 | cait | i don't know enough about those things really |
14:26 | nlegrand | me neither :) |
14:26 | cait | it changes all tables, so commenting it out might cause other problems |
14:27 | but we will get a massive problem there too | |
14:27 | as we have been using upper case subfields for some migration data and even more in a new project that requires lots of item data | |
14:40 | tcohen | Joubu: http://snag.gy/a4TfX.jpg |
14:41 | Joubu | yep, they should be moved |
14:42 | ReportsGuided.t and Reports/Guided.t should be merged also... | |
14:42 | tcohen | i think that was my fault |
14:42 | :-P | |
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14:43 | tcohen | I guess they all sit there only because we didn't have the time to spend on mocking C4::Context->config |
14:43 | so, they are environment dependent, not db dependent | |
15:20 | cait | nlegrand: can you explain what you mean by quotas a bit? |
15:20 | just a checkbox in the circulation rules 'allow on-site use' or something different? | |
15:25 | nlegrand | a borrower could be allowed to check-out a defined number of book while on-site checking out also a defined number of books |
15:26 | eg a borrower with 10 checked-out books and 20 on-site checked out books with a checkout quota of 10 and a on-site check out quota of 20 | |
15:27 | is it clearer? | |
15:28 | cait | ah ok |
15:28 | i was thinking of a complete checkout rule for onsite- with the existing options appied to 'when the onsite-checkobx is set' | |
15:28 | so you could define loan period, max to check out, fine options etc. | |
15:29 | it's probably more work then extending tie cissuingrules table again - but maybe more flexible long term? else we end up duplicating everything in the end maybe | |
15:30 | nlegrand | That's beyond our need. Mainly because we don't do fines, and our on-site checkouts will be daylish apart from some exceptions where we will manualy set the date, thanks to you ^^ |
15:34 | reiveune | bye |
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15:34 | nlegrand | I'm not against it though, it surely sounds better for the long term or for other needs than our own |
15:36 | Not sure we have the money or the time for such a dev right now :) | |
15:36 | have to go, see you tomorrow! | |
15:38 | cait | sure :) bye! |
15:41 | @later tell nlegrand small steps are good too - could still extent it later and move stuff around :) | |
15:41 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
15:48 | Joubu | bye #koha |
15:50 | khall | bye Joubu! |
15:50 | hey #koha looking for input on http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14048 | |
15:50 | huginn` | 04Bug 14048: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Change RefundLostItemFeeOnReturn to be branch specific |
15:51 | cait | sounds good to me on first read :) |
15:51 | did you see the processing fee for lost items? | |
15:52 | that's going by itemtype in the current patch | |
15:52 | htere is a lot of work on 'lost' things overall | |
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16:07 | cait | bye all |
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16:32 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14046: Make the CheckIfIssuedToPatron using the biblionumber <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f21ab6fd902f3c18> / Bug 13819: (QA Followup) more documentation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e5b0043d91f3c31ba> / Bug 13819: Add biblioitems to ISSUESLIP and ISSUEQSLIP in C4::Members::IssueSlip() <http://git.koha |
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16:53 | gaetan_B | bye |
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17:33 | tcohen | khall_phone: it seems 13790 needs rebasing. updatedatabase.pl conflict |
17:33 | khall_phone | will do! |
18:00 | khall | tcohen: 13790 is rebased! |
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18:01 | tcohen | khall++ |
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18:17 | tcohen | khall: how will this work with anonimization? |
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18:17 | tcohen | ah, it doesn't delete stuff |
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18:19 | tcohen | khall: let me know when you are around |
18:19 | (please :-D) | |
18:19 | khall | I'm in a staff meeting, what's up? |
18:19 | I can multi-task ; ) | |
18:19 | tcohen | what if the alter table fails? |
18:20 | for example, people has has bad imported data for ages | |
18:20 | shouldn't we enclose this things on a transaction? just thinking out loud | |
18:21 | khall | tcohen: that makes sense to me! |
18:21 | tcohen | i haven't seen that on updatedatabase.pl |
18:21 | but I'm worried because I have seen people's databases with such problems | |
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18:22 | tcohen | i'll mark it candidate for 3.20, but please think a bit about it. Maybe i'm worried for nothing |
18:22 | khall | tcohen: I'm not sure I can imagine a way it could fail though |
18:22 | but perhaps I'm unimaginative | |
18:22 | tcohen | and I worry too much |
18:23 | heh | |
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18:26 | tcohen | it is a common fear I guess in situations were you are making a column have unique values when it didn't in the past |
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18:31 | TGoat | @later tell cbrannon what brand/style/type of parachute and how much? Got a container that goes with it? Ping tgoat |
18:31 | huginn` | TGoat: The operation succeeded. |
18:33 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13419: (QA followup) remove useless warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bce2848fb502eb076> / Bug 13419: (follow-up) fix call to set_userenv <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]afeae0e4209fbe5d1> / Bug 13419: (follow-up) Add tests - remove existing shelves <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b/?p=koha.git;a=c | |
18:38 | tcohen | haspermission sucks |
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18:51 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu please take a look at 7939 |
18:51 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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18:54 | wnickc | Question: If OpacPublic is disabled a regular patron shoudl still be able to view and search as usual once logged in? |
18:57 | and they should be able to see their account as long as opacuserlogin is allow | |
18:59 | I am having troubles getting in to opac accounts on master | |
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19:33 | wnickc | hah, restored the wrong db, without the borrow permission things get wierd |
19:42 | misilot | mhmm love when the notes say the item is lost and paid for, but it has an available status in the catalog :-/ |
19:48 | cait | hm? |
19:49 | wnickc: hm can you describe a bit more | |
19:49 | ? | |
19:49 | wnickc: also try clearing your cache | |
19:49 | i had some strange problem recently that stopped after | |
19:50 | wnickc | cait: yeah, I was testing a bug with updatedatabase and then restored to wrong db |
19:50 | when properly removed the borrow permission is useless, when just left out of database koha is unhappy | |
19:51 | cait | hah |
19:51 | that's exactly what i did to | |
19:51 | o | |
19:51 | * cait | hand wnickc the cookie jar |
19:51 | * wnickc | nom nom nom |
19:52 | mveron | cait: Regarding the note on Bug 10947: "There is no way to create an authority with an empty string, withyou deleted you won't be able to recreate it." - Should that go to a new bug? |
19:52 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10947 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Default framework for authorities can't be edited |
19:53 | cait | probably |
19:53 | alhough noone will want to do that from the gui | |
19:53 | as we have no import option yet for authorities | |
19:53 | it won't hurt to have that documented | |
19:53 | mveron | Ok, I will file a bug |
19:53 | cait | thx :) |
19:54 | * cait | goes to put backslashes in users |
20:07 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13482: Sent biblionumber to the template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b997496d403dd4247> / Bug 13482: Prevent race condition on printing a ReserveSlip <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]969d242b78b1cfa09> / Bug 14008: Proposed follow-up: Dialog should appear whenever filters are active <http://git.koha-commun |
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20:38 | * mveron | remembers antique Basic: IF (tired$ = 1) THEN GOTO Bed |
20:39 | mveron | Good night / daytime #koha |
20:41 | cait | :) |
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20:55 | geek_cl | ping -c1 cdickinson |
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20:57 | cait | quiet tonight |
20:58 | wnickc | cait++ joubu++ nengard++ |
20:58 | cait | wnickc++ :) |
21:00 | wnickc | it's nice being a newbie, passed QA on my tiny bug just made my whole day |
21:01 | cait | :) |
21:01 | now you made mine | |
21:01 | wnickc | koha++ making everyone happy |
21:37 | eythian | hi |
21:40 | cdickinson | geek_cl: 64 bytes from callum: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=42 minutes |
21:41 | 45 minutes, damn it, IRC timestamp is misleading | |
21:41 | geek_cl: hiya, sorry but going to be AFK for a little while longer | |
21:44 | geek_cl | cdickinson, this is Larry |
21:46 | eythian | http://tholman.com/elevator.js/ <-- we should put this into Koha, I think. |
21:52 | cait | elastic search result lists? :P |
22:01 | wizzyrea | that really makes my eyes go blerch |
22:02 | eythian | cait: :D |
22:03 | wizzyrea | oh it has audio too. |
22:03 | well that tears it, it should definitely go in koha. | |
22:03 | cdickinson | lol |
22:04 | wizzyrea | oh and the ding. |
22:04 | eythian | yeah, the audio is most of the point :) |
22:04 | cdickinson | geek_cl: yeah, I thought you were, I'm heading into the office in a few minutes so we'll start this soon |
22:05 | sorry but just wait a little bit longer please :P | |
22:06 | eythian | http://jvns.ca/strace-zine.pdf |
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22:11 | talljoy | rocio what kind of errors where you getting on the create dummy script? |
22:11 | * cait | stares at her qa queue in frustration |
22:12 | talljoy | ooo yikes cait |
22:13 | wizzyrea | I can't read that but I really really want to >.< |
22:13 | eythian | why can't you read it? |
22:20 | wizzyrea | because I'd give myself a burst disc in my neck :P |
22:20 | but I printed it, if you would like to read it in comfort. | |
22:25 | eythian | wizzyrea: you click the >> button, and then select "rechtsom draaien" or "linksom draaien" as appropriate. |
22:25 | wizzyrea | nope. I printed it. |
22:28 | also it's in no form of order unless you print it. | |
22:28 | well ther eis order, but it's not linear. :P | |
22:28 | eythian | true |
22:29 | cait | eythian++ good comment |
22:29 | eythian | ta |
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22:33 | cdickinson | Hi geek_cl |
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22:38 | tcohen | hi |
22:38 | wahanui | bonjour, tcohen |
22:38 | eythian | hello tcohen |
22:38 | tcohen | hi eythian |
22:39 | eythian: are you sure we need to drop support for 12.04? | |
22:39 | eythian | it's pretty similar to squeeze |
22:39 | tcohen | ok |
22:41 | rangi | plus 3 years old .. thats pretty good going |
22:41 | eythian | yeah |
22:41 | also its replacement has been out for a year now. | |
22:42 | * cait | waves at tcohen |
22:42 | tcohen | hi cait |
22:43 | eythian | quakey |
22:43 | rangi | whoa that was pretty |
22:43 | big | |
22:51 | wizzyrea | a jolty one. |
22:56 | cait | hm could I interest someone familiar with plack take a look at bug 13815? |
22:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , plack loose CGI qw(-utf8) flag creating incorrect utf-8 encoding everywhere |
22:58 | cait | thx eythian :) |
23:00 | cdickinson | ping -c1 geek_cl |
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23:08 | eythian | cait: if I add a record with UTF-8 in it, I can't search for that UTF-8. |
23:08 | oh, I'm testing on a really old koha | |
23:08 | that's silly of me | |
23:10 | erk, the bug doesn't explain the wrong behaviour, and I can't reproduce it :/ | |
23:11 | well, I can't reproduce something that might not be working | |
23:11 | this said, I have seen that elsewhere. | |
23:11 | cait | you are confusing me |
23:11 | eythian | Test scenario: |
23:11 | 1. under plack try to search with utf-8 charactes | |
23:11 | ...and what? | |
23:12 | basically, in my test case at the moment I can't see any issues without the patch | |
23:12 | maybe I'll set up a newer one. | |
23:16 | cait | hm his initial patch asked to search for patrons with utf-8 |
23:16 | is that what you do? | |
23:17 | ah... ignore me | |
23:17 | it's getting too late...1) and 2) | |
23:18 | eythian | yeah, I tried that too and it worked fine |
23:23 | cait | hm |
23:24 | eythian | but I am sure I've seen similar issues with plack before. |
23:25 | anyway, setting up a plack install from master now to give that a go. | |
23:26 | cait | thx a lot |
23:30 | eythian | (which means building new master packages first so it'll actually install on jessie...) |
23:44 | papa joined #koha | |
23:52 | cait | hm, should if be is? |
23:52 | Generate the print notices in a html file (default if --html, --csv and ods are not given) | |
23:52 | rangi | yeah |
23:52 | is would make more sense | |
23:53 | actually that whole sentence makes no sense | |
23:57 | eythian | I don't think so. I think it's saying "this is the default if these things aren't given" |
23:57 | but, it is badly phrased to start with. | |
23:57 | also, why would html be a default if --html is not given. | |
23:58 | burn it down and rewrite it. |
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