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| 00:18 | wizzyrea | bad coffee? |
| 00:21 | dcook | Yep |
| 00:21 | There's always a joke or a second or two spent on a character going "Bleck, this coffee is terrible" and they throw it out | |
| 00:22 | Or... I just noticed with all the shows I watched around a given time period :p | |
| 00:22 | Of course I only have 3 examples off the top of my head... | |
| 00:22 | Ghost in the Shell, Lost Girl, and Seinfeld. | |
| 00:22 | wizzyrea | oh I thought you were making a sly joke about java. |
| 00:22 | dcook | But I'm sure it's in other places |
| 00:22 | Nah, that was the one about it being full of beans | |
| 00:23 | I've definitely had a few "Bleck, this Java is terrible" moments though | |
| 00:51 | Of course, feeling like I'm freezing really probably indicates that I should've stayed in bed this morning... | |
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| 02:11 | pianohacker | oh jeez I'm still logged in |
| 02:19 | wizzyrea | no you're not |
| 02:31 | mtompset | dcook++ # decent Java sarcastic humour. :) |
| 02:32 | Greetings, dcook wizzyrea. :) | |
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| 04:12 | jcamins_ | Wow. Rakuten bought OverDrive. |
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| 04:27 | dcook | Apparently they own kobo too. That's neat. |
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| 06:11 | schnydszch | hi! were trying out RFID in our institution, can somebody try to telnet to our server: telnet 54.169.225.223 6001 |
| 06:12 | im trying it out from another server I'm getting v" | |
| 06:12 | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused | |
| 06:35 | mtompset | Same problem, schnydszch |
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| 06:48 | paxed | blah. |
| 06:49 | why doesn't koha have a table that contains the extracted biblioitem marcxml, split into separate fields. | |
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| 06:58 | magnuse | paxed: because noone felt the need for it strongly enough? |
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| 07:12 | magnuse | bonjour laurence - someone needs to give the server that runs http://www.biblibre.com/ a kick :-) |
| 07:13 | laurence | helle magnuse |
| 07:13 | oulà | |
| 07:13 | thanks | |
| 07:20 | magnuse | my pleasure :-) |
| 07:25 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha schnydszch paxed magnuse laurence. :) |
| 07:27 | magnuse | friday? |
| 07:27 | wahanui | somebody said friday was pizzaday |
| 07:27 | magnuse | woohoo! |
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| 07:37 | drojf | morning |
| 07:38 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 07:39 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 07:40 | magnuse | happy spring equinox, #koha! |
| 07:40 | as of today i have more sunlight than y'all - mohahahah! | |
| 07:40 | and there is a solar eclipse! | |
| 07:49 | drojf | and there are no protecting glasses available anywhere |
| 07:49 | at least in berlin and a lot of germany | |
| 07:49 | magnuse | :-( |
| 07:50 | we bought some a couple of years ago, but we have no idea where they are after we moved last year... | |
| 07:50 | drojf | school kids are locked inside because schools are too stupid to buy such things ahead of time and hand them out |
| 07:51 | and the optometrists said they don't care, they want to make real money with real glasses | |
| 07:51 | magnuse | wow |
| 07:52 | drojf | they sold them on ebay for a few hundred euro in the end. they are usually like… 2€? |
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| 07:52 | magnuse | ouch |
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| 07:54 | alex_a | hello |
| 07:57 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:59 | magnuse | drojf: it looks quite easy to make an eclipse-viewer from a cardboard box and some aluminum foil... |
| 08:01 | http://www.timeanddate.com/ecl[…]le-projector.html | |
| 08:02 | paxed | magnuse: imo, mysql xml handling is so bad, it makes impossible to write proper sql reports... |
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| 08:03 | drojf | magnuse: yeah. but then it's probably more exciting to just watch it online ;) |
| 08:09 | Joubu | Hello #koha |
| 08:10 | drojf: same here in UK and in France... | |
| 08:10 | drojf | hi Joubu |
| 08:10 | :/ | |
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| 08:13 | codavid | Bonjour |
| 08:13 | wahanui | kia ora, codavid |
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| 08:23 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:24 | magnuse | bonojur gaetan_B |
| 08:31 | fridolin | hie all |
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| 08:45 | cait | who else is watching the sun with special glasses? |
| 08:59 | drojf | if you give me a pair… |
| 09:02 | magnuse | i'm gonna try the trick with a cardboard box and aluminum foil |
| 09:06 | cait | don't hurt your eyes! |
| 09:06 | some of the coworkers brought in the old glasses from 2009, taking turns here :) | |
| 09:08 | magnuse | yay |
| 09:16 | cait | someone eats the sun! |
| 09:19 | drojf | magnuse: using the front camera of my smartphone while turned away (filming the sun behind me and looking at the display) works a little better than the camera obscura |
| 09:26 | cait | really looks funny |
| 09:29 | kivilahtio | jcamins: so what does it mean? |
| 09:30 | Rakuten buying OverDrive | |
| 09:35 | http://rogerpacker.com/blog/ne[…]invisible-indies/ | |
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| 09:39 | mveron | Hi #koha |
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| 10:07 | nlegrand | Hey #koha |
| 10:22 | cait | hi nlegrand :) |
| 10:22 | kivilahtio: did you watch the solar eclipse? | |
| 10:23 | kivilahtio | cait: nope |
| 10:23 | cait: It is happening as we speak | |
| 10:23 | cait: the color of the world is a bit off | |
| 10:23 | cait | aah it's already over here |
| 10:24 | it got not quite dark, but noticeably darker | |
| 10:27 | nlegrand | o/ cait |
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| 10:31 | cait | :) |
| 10:35 | mveron | cait: We have to wait until the year 2081 until it gets really dark... :-) |
| 10:36 | kivilahtio | I will turn 94 that year |
| 10:36 | bring it on | |
| 10:38 | mveron | kivilahtio: 2021 then, a partial one... |
| 10:38 | kivilahtio | I wonder what would happen if earth was 8 minutes without sun |
| 10:40 | cait | 102 :) |
| 10:40 | hm | |
| 10:40 | or 98? | |
| 10:40 | wahanui | rumour has it 98 is better than ME |
| 10:40 | cait | my math is broken |
| 10:41 | lol wahanui | |
| 10:41 | mveron | 126... Hmmm... |
| 10:49 | khall | mornin #koha! |
| 10:51 | mveron | Hi khall |
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| 10:55 | magnuse | 108... |
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| 12:06 | * cait | waves |
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| 12:11 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 12:25 | cait | tcohen1: ? |
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| 12:44 | tcohen | hi |
| 12:44 | wahanui | what's up, tcohen |
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| 13:15 | kivilahtio | Wanna go out with me wahanui? |
| 13:15 | wahanui: do you like flowers? | |
| 13:15 | wahanui | i haven't a clue, kivilahtio |
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| 13:42 | gerundio | tcohen1, are you around? |
| 13:45 | nengard | anyone know much about github? |
| 13:46 | gerundio | nengard, not much, but ask away, maybe I can help |
| 13:46 | still more of a SVN user myself | |
| 13:46 | nengard | https://github.com/Koha-Community/kohadocs - i want to set this up to pull from the official git repo regularly - I found a way to import a git repo but not how to keep it up to date |
| 13:47 | like the Koha report on github does | |
| 13:47 | https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha | |
| 13:47 | gerundio | take a look at this http://koha-community.org/get-[…]d/for-developers/ |
| 13:47 | Koha has its own git repository | |
| 13:48 | I think Koha's repository @ github is a mirror | |
| 13:50 | magnuse | and i think nengard wants to set up a similar mirror for the docs |
| 13:50 | i think mtj set up the other mirrors | |
| 13:50 | nengard | yes i want to set up a mirror |
| 13:50 | magnuse | no idea how to do it, though |
| 13:50 | nengard | :( |
| 13:50 | I'll have to ask github :) | |
| 13:50 | and gerundio I am the one who pushes to the git repo for the documentation so I know all about it ;) | |
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| 14:00 | gerundio | tcohen, I got a response from EBSCO's team regarding that Z39.50 server issue you helped me with yesterday |
| 14:00 | "Unfortunately, we do not support the UNIMARC format for Real Time Availability Checking. We do support the USMARC or OPAC formats. The USMARC format was used previously in a working configuration of RTAC for your EDS Custom Catalog. Could you change the format in your z39.50 server to either the USMARC or OPAC format?" | |
| 14:01 | if our Koha installation is setup using UNIMARC can I simply publish the Z39.50 server with USMARC or OPAC format? | |
| 14:02 | cait | huh, and they said it worked previously? |
| 14:02 | it hink they might have used USMARC - but the data still was unimarc | |
| 14:02 | thre is no automatic conversion | |
| 14:02 | gerundio | so basically what they're asking is not possible, right? |
| 14:03 | cait | hm the confusing bit is that they said it worked before |
| 14:04 | gerundio | cait, I'll try to give some context without going into excessive detail |
| 14:05 | cait | makes it sound more like a communication problem - if they worked successfully with your data beofre |
| 14:05 | gerundio | about a year ago I was contacted by our library staff saying that we would integrate with EDS |
| 14:05 | after a few email exchanges then, I enabled the Z39.50 server on our Koha instance and got an OK from them | |
| 14:06 | fast forward a year and they say it wasn't working anymore | |
| 14:06 | cait | hmmmm |
| 14:06 | so something in our configuration changed maybe? did you update koha in between? | |
| 14:06 | gerundio | in the meantime the Z39.50 server had been disabled |
| 14:07 | probably when we upgraded Koha from sources to start using debian packages | |
| 14:07 | I can't point any other possibility as we didn't made any changes to the configurations ever since | |
| 14:07 | cait | i think your koha always responded with unimarc data - but it might be that you could have asked for usmarc n the past |
| 14:07 | (still getting unimarc anyway) | |
| 14:08 | the rtac service looks at the items? | |
| 14:08 | or at the record? | |
| 14:08 | gerundio | nevertheless, the Z39.50 settings are now as they were before |
| 14:09 | so my thought is exactly as yours, it's been UNIMARC all along | |
| 14:09 | cait | that would be my guess as well |
| 14:09 | if they look at the items they are non-standard anyway | |
| 14:10 | gerundio | from their explanation regarding RTAC, I'd say it looks into both |
| 14:10 | "RTAC stands for Real Time Availability Checking, which is ensuring that the real-time holdings information for a Record is retrieved and displayed in an EDS Custom Catalog. This real-time holdings information is usually contained within a server, often a z39.50 server, which tracks if items are on available, checked out, on loan, etc... As items are physically checked out or returned, the server is updated with current holdings informati | |
| 14:10 | on. When RTAC functionality is implemented in an EDS Custom Catalog and a Record is loaded and displayed, our servers automatically query the z39.50 server (or other usable server), and display the holdings information returned for that Record." | |
| 14:11 | cait | hmmm i'd say only items |
| 14:11 | as long as they can find the record | |
| 14:11 | which should work | |
| 14:11 | gerundio | they mention mostly records but then they say "tracks if items are on available" |
| 14:11 | not clear for me | |
| 14:11 | cait | holdings information for a record - i think the dispaly of the recordw ithin ebsco comes from their database |
| 14:12 | hm but not usre | |
| 14:12 | how does the ebsco index get updated if they don't support unimarc? | |
| 14:12 | gerundio | good question... but I have that doubt myself |
| 14:13 | I'm only dealing with the infrastructure part of the process | |
| 14:13 | cait | i think maybe give them a call? |
| 14:13 | if possible | |
| 14:13 | gerundio | from a few emails that were sent back and forth I saw mentions of data being uploaded to them via FTP |
| 14:13 | cait | i think we can be quite sure that the data hasn't changed - only the way to query it |
| 14:14 | gerundio | so I'd guess that would be the records' information |
| 14:15 | magnuse | there has been some changes to te z39.50 server |
| 14:16 | gerundio | magnuse, what Koha versions were affected by those changes? |
| 14:18 | magnuse | i think it was bug 3087 |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3087 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, CLOSED FIXED, Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB |
| 14:18 | drojf | so they used that as a feature? |
| 14:19 | magnuse | could be |
| 14:19 | * drojf | waves |
| 14:19 | magnuse | the changes around this happened around the 3.10 release |
| 14:21 | gerundio | that would explain it |
| 14:21 | we started using Koha at version 3.8 | |
| 14:21 | nengard | magnuse I found out how to do it - i need to put a hook in the documentation git repo - do you know how I could find the hook that's in the koha repo to copy it? |
| 14:21 | https://help.github.com/articl[…]t-github-mirrors/ | |
| 14:22 | gerundio | and have upgraded in a few iterations to the current 3.18.x |
| 14:24 | since there's no way to automagically convert from UNIMARC to USMARC, what is the OPAC format they mention and would that be a possible workaround? | |
| 14:25 | * magnuse | never heard of a opac format |
| 14:25 | magnuse | nengard: no idea - it sounds like something that would have to be setup by whoever runs the official koha repos |
| 14:26 | nengard | message to the mailing list it is :) |
| 14:26 | magnuse | oh looky, the git server is run by someone called bywater |
| 14:27 | gmcharlt, rangi, baga and chris_n are supposed to have shell access | |
| 14:27 | baga? huh? | |
| 14:28 | gmcharlt | nengard: mirror what where? |
| 14:28 | (I can help with that, just need coordinates) | |
| 14:29 | nengard | gmcharlt just emailed the Koha list ;) |
| 14:29 | oopsie | |
| 14:29 | mirrors kohadocs git to github | |
| 14:29 | https://github.com/Koha-Community/kohadocs | |
| 14:30 | gmcharlt | gotcah |
| 14:30 | *gotcha | |
| 14:30 | bag | gmcharlt: you are on east coast time now? |
| 14:31 | gmcharlt | bag: my body is, my heart and soul are timezone-less |
| 14:31 | ;) | |
| 14:31 | bag | HA |
| 14:31 | nengard | :) |
| 14:34 | gmcharlt | nengard: could you line up a commit to push to the docs repo, then push it when I say the word? |
| 14:34 | nengard | sure, give me a sec |
| 14:38 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 14:38 | bag | good morning magnuse |
| 14:38 | happy friday | |
| 14:38 | magnuse | friday? |
| 14:38 | wahanui | friday is pizzaday |
| 14:38 | magnuse | woohoo! |
| 14:39 | nengard | gmcharlt ready when you are |
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| 14:43 | magnuse | time to wander off and make pizza - have fun #koha! |
| 14:44 | nengard | gmcharlt - letting beau out - brb |
| 14:47 | gaetan_B | was the "hide_marc" system preference ever meant to hide marc numbers when cataloging or did i imagine it? |
| 14:47 | i think i remember it working this way at a time | |
| 14:48 | gmcharlt | gaetan_B: I think your recollection is correct |
| 14:48 | gaetan_B | but it seems to only hide numbers in the marc views |
| 14:48 | then it might be a bug | |
| 14:48 | nengard | gmcharlt back |
| 14:48 | gaetan_B | the preference description is sort of acurate though |
| 14:48 | nlegrand | I'm going to work on Bug 13881, if someone as comments don't hesitate :) |
| 14:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13881 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add desk management |
| 14:48 | gmcharlt | nengard: Ill need a few more minutes; I'll ping you when I'm ready for you |
| 14:49 | nengard | K, I have a webinar in about an hour |
| 14:54 | gmcharlt | nengard: OK, the mirror is now up to date, and I'm ready for you to try a push |
| 14:54 | nengard | pushed |
| 14:55 | gmcharlt | nengard: the "Execure" typo fix? |
| 14:55 | nengard | yes |
| 14:55 | gmcharlt | great, it's working |
| 14:55 | nengard | WOOO HOO |
| 14:55 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 14:55 | gmcharlt | nengard++ |
| 14:55 | nengard | thank you so much |
| 14:56 | wow I've done a ton in the manual: 1,657 commits / 884,522 ++ / 831,969 -- | |
| 14:59 | Joubu | gaetan_B: see bug 9366 |
| 14:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , On cataloguing each user can easily display tags or not |
| 15:00 | Joubu | gaetan_B: there are pref hide_marc + advancedMARCeditor, and for more fun, a cookie |
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| 15:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:05 | schnydszch | hi all! regarding the RFID thing I posted a while back, changing the ip number in port="127.0.0.1:6001/tcp" to ip address of the server, we were able to telnet to the server. please try it out. |
| 15:10 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 15:11 | Joubu | nengard: I answered you on bug 13417, let me know if I am not clear :) |
| 15:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , New permission to allow staff to remove public lists |
| 15:11 | nengard | thanks joubu - will look in a second |
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| 16:21 | fridolin1 | see u |
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| 16:46 | ashimema | @later tell cait, have you ever looked at bug 12289 |
| 16:46 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:04 | Joubu | have a good week-end #koha! |
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| 19:05 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 19:06 | @seen jcamins | |
| 19:06 | huginn | mtompset: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 5 hours, 22 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <jcamins> sftp [-1246Cpqrv] [-B buffer_size] [-b batchfile] [-c cipher] [-D sftp_server_path] [-F ssh_config] [-i identity_file] [-l limit] [-o ssh_option] [-P port] [-R num_requests] [-S program] [-s subsystem | sftp_server] host ... |
| 19:06 | mtompset | I need a library type. :) |
| 19:06 | Asian Synod (1998 : Rome, Italy) | |
| 19:07 | If it is 711$a, what should the indicators be? | |
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| 19:11 | mtompset | a ha! Idea. Praise the Lord for Z39.50 and the Library of Congress. :) |
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