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| 00:32 | dcook | gmcharlt++ |
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| 03:11 | twb | I have a koha 3.14.09 server set up by some subcontractor, on debian 7. I belatedly applied some security upgrades, and now I'm getting an email from cron that I don't know how to deal with. |
| 03:11 | http://sprunge.us/QIei | |
| 03:12 | eythian | you probably don't have mysql running |
| 03:12 | sudo service mysql-server restart | |
| 03:12 | or something along those lines | |
| 03:12 | oh, just mysql, not mysql-server | |
| 03:13 | twb | OK thanks, trying that now |
| 03:13 | eythian | it probably went down for the updates, and for some reason didn't start up again. |
| 03:13 | I would also expect that your koha isn't working, with the same error | |
| 03:14 | twb | I can see mysql running in ps |
| 03:14 | I'll restart its service for good measure | |
| 03:14 | http://sprunge.us/ReAJ is that "corrupt" line normal? I am used to postgres. | |
| 03:15 | rangi | thats fine, it checks everytime |
| 03:15 | twb | OK, lemme try to remember how to get to koha... |
| 03:16 | rangi | you can check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ |
| 03:16 | twb | OK I just ran "koha-rebuild-zebra -q k1" as root by hand and that didn't give an error. |
| 03:17 | Maybe it was just that the cron job happened to run partway through the upgrade earlier | |
| 03:17 | rangi | most likely |
| 03:17 | eythian | that is quite possible |
| 03:18 | twb | OK I will stop freaking out :-) |
| 03:18 | rangi | speaking of upgrades, one day in the future you'll want to upgrade koha itself too :) |
| 03:18 | but id do that on a test server first | |
| 03:18 | 3.14.09 is fairly old now | |
| 03:18 | twb | har har test server |
| 03:19 | The site only has one librarian and they really only use it for OPAC, so koha doesn't get much love | |
| 03:19 | rangi | 3.14.x is still maintained but only for a few more months |
| 03:19 | twb | I'll mention it to $boss |
| 03:19 | rangi | however there have been a couple of security releases since 3.14.09 .. the latest is 3.14.13 |
| 03:20 | twb | OK |
| 03:20 | rangi | we usually maintain each major release for 18mths |
| 03:21 | so we currently have 3.14, 3.16, and 3.18 being supported | |
| 03:21 | (we do six monthly feature releases and monthly(ish) maintenance ones) | |
| 03:21 | when 3.20 comes out in may, 3.14.x will be out of support | |
| 03:21 | hope that makes some sense | |
| 03:26 | twb | Yeah, no worries |
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| 04:47 | mtj | hey, remember how the 'opacsmallimage' syspref was removed from boostrap.. |
| 04:48 | ive attempted to add that style into a koha | |
| 04:49 | i wonder if its worth adding a working version back into koha? | |
| 04:52 | my version is a bit hacky, atm - but basically seems to handle the responseive stuff ok | |
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| 05:48 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 05:48 | oh | |
| 05:48 | missing huginn | |
| 05:48 | dcook | :O |
| 06:42 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 06:42 | drojf | morning |
| 06:51 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:53 | magnuse | eythian still around? |
| 06:54 | cait joined #koha | |
| 06:54 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 06:57 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 06:58 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 07:01 | * dcook | waves |
| 07:03 | magnuse | hiya dcook! |
| 07:03 | time to pack up, eh? | |
| 07:03 | dcook | You know it! |
| 07:03 | Late in this morning due to long post office lines | |
| 07:04 | Have a system going live tomorrow as well so last minute touch ups.. | |
| 07:04 | magnuse | ah, cool! |
| 07:04 | fingers crossed! | |
| 07:04 | dcook | :) |
| 07:12 | * magnuse | will probably finish a migration this week too |
| 07:12 | magnuse | waiting for the old system to export the data |
| 07:15 | dcook | \o/ |
| 07:15 | * dcook | is not debating whether to go to the gym or play on computers at home after spending 9 hours on computers at work |
| 07:15 | dcook | is now debating* :p |
| 07:18 | drojf | are there compters at the gym? |
| 07:18 | *compters | |
| 07:18 | orrr | |
| 07:18 | * drojf | goes back to bed |
| 07:19 | dcook | It would be sweet if we could train while programming... |
| 07:19 | The body works out, and the brain does the programming :D | |
| 07:19 | I could see that leading to some sort of weird split personality thing though... | |
| 07:19 | magnuse | i have heard of people who have those walking machines in front of their desks... |
| 07:20 | dcook | I occasionally go on my phone when I'm doing legs :p |
| 07:20 | But need to focus a bit more when running or using arms | |
| 07:20 | magnuse | google for "walk desk" |
| 07:22 | liw | http://lifehacker.com/linus-to[…]-3d-pr-1617261060 |
| 07:22 | dcook | Oh, I was just thinking of you, liw! |
| 07:23 | hehe | |
| 07:24 | The regular hours thing is interesting | |
| 07:26 | Oh man... yeah I still have hard disks from 2002... | |
| 07:37 | drojf | any reason why koha-gitify would not work on jessie? |
| 07:38 | magnuse | can't think of any |
| 07:38 | what happens? | |
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| 07:39 | drojf | oh. it's a lot of 403 forbidden errors when i try to open koha |
| 07:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:40 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
| 07:41 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 07:41 | drojf: that sounds weird | |
| 07:41 | drojf | sounds like wrong permissions |
| 07:42 | cait | bbiab |
| 07:50 | drojf | i chmodded all to 755 in the dev directory, did not help though. i can't recall having this before and that was as much patience as i can bring up on a monday morning |
| 07:53 | magnuse | if you create a regular instance, does that have the same symptoms? |
| 07:53 | or is it just the gitified instance? | |
| 07:54 | drojf | no regular instance worked fine and after gitify it#s broken |
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| 08:03 | drojf | oh, maybe this http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eturns_403_errors |
| 08:03 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 08:03 | wahanui | hello, alex_a |
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| 08:06 | drojf | yep. fixed |
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| 08:09 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
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| 08:11 | fridolin | hie all |
| 08:13 | drojf | i would have put it on the wiki, but i fail to see what page it would go on, as we have something between two and hundred different pages dealing with git/dev setups but gitify is only mentioned for ubuntu |
| 08:13 | and i don't have time to fix all the wiki pages that annoy me | |
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| 08:22 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 08:22 | drojf | hi marcelr |
| 08:22 | marcelr | :) |
| 08:24 | drojf | mirkojessie:~/koha$ sudo PERL5LIB=/home/mirko/koha KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml perl misc/search_tools/rebuild_elastic_search.pl -v -d |
| 08:24 | Indexing biblios | |
| 08:24 | 978 records indexed. | |
| 08:24 | * drojf | sqeaks |
| 08:24 | drojf | squeaks even |
| 08:25 | what's wrong with my 'u'? :/ | |
| 08:25 | eythian++ #elasticsearch | |
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| 08:27 | drojf | so, now that i have that working elasticsearch branch, what is the fun part about it? |
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| 08:27 | magnuse | drojf: that it looks and works as identical to zebra as possible |
| 08:28 | ;-) | |
| 08:28 | cait | oh you got it orking? |
| 08:28 | magnuse | drojf++ eythian++ |
| 08:28 | drojf | magnuse: meh :P |
| 08:28 | cait | Joubu: did you see bug 13836? |
| 08:28 | drojf | cait: yes. only took like all yesterday evening and and some more this morning ;) |
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| 08:29 | cait | drojf: heh |
| 08:29 | drojf | but i had to start from scratch installing a jessie vm and all |
| 08:36 | searching for 'house': with zebra 17 result, with elasticsearch 8 | |
| 08:37 | looks like es only searches the title | |
| 08:40 | cait | ah |
| 08:40 | yeah i guess there isa lot to test and find | |
| 08:42 | magnuse | yeah, it's early days |
| 08:42 | i guess part of the attraction is that once the basics are working, future tweaking will be easier and have more documentation | |
| 08:43 | drojf | the mapping looks really handy, compared to what you have to do with zebra. (at least if it's really only the sql i am looking at right now) |
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| 09:09 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 09:09 | wahanui | hello, gaetan_B |
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| 09:18 | cait | marcelr: good to know it's not only me |
| 09:18 | marcelr: problem with the web installer | |
| 09:18 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 09:19 | cait | @later tell ashimema could you take another look at bug 13531 - i am not sure if i tested correctly |
| 09:19 | aaah no huginn | |
| 09:20 | magnuse | who do we poke? |
| 09:20 | cait | hm not sure maybe gmcharlt |
| 09:20 | magnuse | yes, according to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 09:20 | bots? | |
| 09:20 | wahanui | http://youtu.be/B1BdQcJ2ZYY |
| 09:21 | ashimema | bug 13531 |
| 09:21 | ack.. no huggin | |
| 09:22 | cait | morning ashimema |
| 09:22 | i am also looking for someone to qa the sip patches | |
| 09:22 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
| 09:22 | cait | those are a bit stuck (as usual) |
| 09:22 | ashimema | morning cait |
| 09:23 | cait | bug 13411 for example |
| 09:23 | written by khall, tested by bensinober | |
| 09:24 | ashimema | it's still crazy times here i'm afraid cait.. |
| 09:24 | magnuse | bensinober++ |
| 09:24 | ashimema | I'm struggling to fit everything in :( |
| 09:24 | cait | i understand, just throwing that out there |
| 09:24 | magnuse | yeah, let ashimema focus on ill ;-) |
| 09:24 | ashimema | I'll try to get colin to squeeze it in. |
| 09:24 | cait | thx |
| 09:24 | i'd be ok to pass qa if colin says it's fine | |
| 09:24 | ashimema | alex is my ILL man.. i've bascially left it to him for aobut 2 months now magnuse.. |
| 09:25 | cait | he did a good job at the hackfest :) |
| 09:25 | ashimema | right now I'm still on cash management, online payments and our other product rebus:list |
| 09:25 | cait | presenting it |
| 09:25 | ashimema | :) |
| 09:25 | the work is going fast on it.. | |
| 09:25 | we've got bugs coming in thick and fast on our github repo and he's fixing them as fast as his fingers can type code ;) | |
| 09:26 | cait | :) |
| 09:26 | hope the fingers don't catch fire then | |
| 09:26 | ashimema | :) |
| 09:27 | did he submit an RFC yet? | |
| 09:27 | I can't remember.. | |
| 09:27 | cait | yep |
| 09:27 | ashimema | I know I still need to do one for cash man |
| 09:29 | dbic is awesome.. we should really be using it to it's potential :( | |
| 09:29 | the more I use it in my other project the more powerful I realise it is.. | |
| 09:33 | magnuse | yeah alex seems do be doing a fine job on the ill |
| 09:34 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_Module | |
| 09:35 | ashimema | He's a real asset to my team.. can't sing his praises enough :) |
| 09:35 | very lucky to have him | |
| 09:35 | cait | atheia++ |
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| 09:40 | magnuse | yeah atheia++ |
| 09:41 | and great timing too ;-) | |
| 09:41 | cait | he must have sensed us talking about him :) |
| 09:42 | atheia | Yeah, I don't know how that happened :-) |
| 09:42 | G'morning:-) | |
| 09:42 | cait | good morning :) |
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| 10:01 | magnuse | tjänare Viktor! |
| 10:01 | hired a koha hacker yet? ;-) | |
| 10:01 | Viktor | Hej Magnuse |
| 10:02 | Not yet :) But I've had at least one engineer (civilingenjör - don't know the english title) who has declared he will apply | |
| 10:02 | I do of course hope to have so many great candidates to chose from that it will be a bother :) | |
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| 10:15 | mveron | Hi #koha |
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| 10:27 | atheia | morning mveron |
| 10:27 | mveron | Hi atheia |
| 10:28 | cait | mveron: i think that might be it - ch vs. de |
| 10:28 | mveron | cait: I'm testing... :-) |
| 10:46 | cait: I tested with locale set to de_DE.UTF-8, prove t/Prices.t passes. | |
| 10:54 | cait | marcelr: did yu see the alllowonshelfholds bug? |
| 10:54 | marcelr | which one? |
| 10:54 | wahanui | i think which one is that? The fixed navbar? |
| 10:54 | cait | marcelr: bug 5786 |
| 10:54 | bit different to your dev, but it will allwo to set opacitemholds in the circ matrix - so force item level holds by itemtype | |
| 10:54 | marcelr | passed qa.. |
| 10:54 | wahanui | passed qa is the queue jcamins should watch |
| 10:54 | cait | yeah this one has a long story |
| 10:55 | but it seems working very well now | |
| 10:55 | i think it's really a good and needed enh | |
| 10:55 | marcelr | ok |
| 10:55 | i will wait with my report 13839 | |
| 10:56 | cait | i really miss huginn |
| 10:56 | gmcharlt: ping? | |
| 10:56 | wahanui | Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-ab[…]oks/dp/0448421658 |
| 10:58 | cait | ... does someone know how to differentiate between sammelwerk and zeitschrift by chance? |
| 10:59 | drojf | is sammelwerk an english word? :) |
| 10:59 | cait | no :) |
| 11:00 | serial and traced series? :) | |
| 11:00 | but it's ok... I am investigating | |
| 11:00 | drojf | i bet marc has a nice letter somewhere hidden in a control field ;) |
| 11:00 | cait | that's my hope |
| 11:01 | and i also hope it's indexed.... might not be so ucky there | |
| 11:02 | drojf | but do you mean something like herausgeberschrift by sammelwerk? or something else? |
| 11:03 | cait | mehr sowas wie eine gezähte reihe |
| 11:03 | im unterschied zu einer zeitschrift | |
| 11:03 | sorry, i am language confused today | |
| 11:03 | drojf | :D |
| 11:04 | cait | 008 - for serials - pos 21 - type of continuing resource |
| 11:05 | not indexed | |
| 11:06 | drojf | monographic series vs. periodical? |
| 11:06 | cait | hm yeah seems so |
| 11:06 | drojf | do the index in elasticsearch ;) |
| 11:06 | cait | the xslt checks for != m |
| 11:08 | kivilahtio | cait: can you check Bug 12671 for everybodys sake |
| 11:08 | cait | it's on my list |
| 11:09 | but i try to work through them bugs first then enh by age | |
| 11:12 | lunch time | |
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| 11:42 | gaetan_B | bye! |
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| 12:01 | jcamins | cait: 008/21 |
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| 12:24 | tcohen | morning! |
| 12:27 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
| 12:28 | tcohen | hola magnuse |
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| 12:30 | tcohen | cait: around? |
| 12:32 | cait | here now |
| 12:32 | jcamins: thx :) | |
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| 12:58 | tcohen | hi sophie_m |
| 13:00 | sophie_m | hi tcohen |
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| 14:38 | chris_n | tcohen: what data does jenkins run tests over? |
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| 14:44 | chris_n | anyone else know? |
| 14:45 | * chris_n | goes off in search of a donut |
| 14:49 | cait | chris_n: i think all the sample data from the web installer |
| 14:49 | maybe some more than that, but that shoudl give you the basics | |
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| 15:02 | chris_n | cait: I just did a fresh install with the sample data, but it appears to have no biblios or items |
| 15:02 | * chris_n | wonders what he did wrong |
| 15:03 | chris_n | those tables are empty |
| 15:03 | cait | i thik that's correct |
| 15:03 | some of the tests create records/items | |
| 15:04 | did you see the newer tests in db_dependent? they create the data in a transaction that is rolled back in the end | |
| 15:04 | it makes things quite easy | |
| 15:04 | no need to clean up after your tests | |
| 15:06 | chris_n | cool, thanks |
| 15:06 | * chris_n | hands cait a donut |
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| 15:09 | cait | Reserves.t should have some examples i think |
| 15:10 | tcohen | chris_n: it uses a clean database with all the sample data |
| 15:14 | kivilahtio | Does anybody know a good module for comparing two objects for sameness? eg. thay have the same array and hash values? |
| 15:15 | and same object class? | |
| 15:15 | a bit like java Comparable? | |
| 15:15 | I guess I could add a subroutine to Koha::Object to do that | |
| 15:15 | but I would rather not hack it on my own | |
| 15:17 | hmm got it http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=121559 | |
| 15:23 | fridolin | sse u |
| 15:23 | (see u) | |
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| 15:27 | Topic for #koha is now Nominations for 3.22-roles are open: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.22 | Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 15:29 | chris_n | tcohen: tnx |
| 15:31 | tcohen | kivilahtio: you could check what is_deeply does |
| 15:31 | kivilahtio | Test::Deep is very good |
| 15:31 | tcohen: thanks for the tip! | |
| 15:41 | bag | morning all |
| 15:43 | drojf | looks like there haven't been much nominations http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising |
| 15:44 | oh the meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then | |
| 15:56 | Joubu | tcohen, cait: Is the issue with permissions solved? |
| 15:56 | (and Hi #koha!) | |
| 15:58 | cait | Joubu: hm don't think so |
| 15:58 | Joubu: marcelr ran into the ame problem it looks like | |
| 15:58 | tcohen | Joubu: i've been on another stuff today, sorry |
| 16:07 | barton | good $TIME_OF_DAY koha! |
| 16:12 | I just tried and failed to import a marc file under head (3.19.00.016) ... it tells me that the records imported correctly and are staged, but when I click on the 'manage staged records' link, the filename is blank, there are no staged records displayed, and the import_batches hasn't been updated. | |
| 16:12 | cait | ew |
| 16:13 | barton | cait yeah. that was my reaction too. |
| 16:14 | morning bag! | |
| 16:14 | bag | morning barton |
| 16:17 | jeff | WRITE "Good "; GREETING_TIME; ", "; LOGIN_NAME |
| 16:18 | barton | cait: I just tested a khoadevbox that I brought up a couple of days ago -- I was able to import the same file under 3.19.00.013 |
| 16:20 | .. I'm going to upgrade that instance to HEAD and see if I run into the same issue, just to prove that it's not a configuration thing. | |
| 16:23 | cait | barton: sounds good |
| 16:26 | barton | well ... s/HEAD/master/ |
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| 16:38 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:30 | drojf | how is the order of available languages determined in the opac? |
| 17:30 | cait | drojf: hm i thimk it's the sequence from the pref |
| 17:31 | drojf | it looks like that, but how is the sequence from the pref determined then? :) |
| 17:32 | it's neithr alphabetical (name or code) nor order of installation | |
| 17:32 | *neither | |
| 17:32 | cait | i think it amends/removes or something |
| 17:32 | i think it's a comma separated string | |
| 17:33 | bbiab | |
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| 18:50 | barton|lunch | cait: I finally got a chance to test marc import 3.19.00.016 -- it worked fine... so it looks like a configuation issue of some sort. |
| 18:53 | drojf | i think they are ordered by 'quality'. whatever that may be. completeness. what a weird way to sort |
| 18:57 | or maybe that is something different | |
| 19:04 | JesseM | okay I have to run out . bbiab |
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| 19:21 | * magnuse | gives the evening wave |
| 19:22 | * barton | takes note of 'the evening wave'. This is a meme he will propagate. |
| 19:29 | magnuse | yay |
| 19:29 | * magnuse | likes memes |
| 19:34 | drojf | and now yo are one |
| 19:34 | you | |
| 19:40 | magnuse | ooh |
| 19:50 | tcohen | bye #koha |
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| 20:16 | rangi | morning |
| 20:19 | magnuse | evening |
| 20:19 | Dyrcona | afternoon. :) |
| 20:21 | magnuse | ooh, rangi and Dyrcona - now you get to argue about who should merge the Dyrcona-branch of NCIPServer into master ;-) |
| 20:23 | rangi | heh i probably should, its just a matter of getting time |
| 20:23 | magnuse | :-) |
| 20:23 | * magnuse | will send some round tuits when gets around to it |
| 20:24 | Dyrcona | heh |
| 20:24 | They seem to be in short supply. | |
| 20:24 | magnuse | btw last thing i did on friday was i managed to turn a RequestItem call into a hold in koha - man that felt good :-) |
| 20:25 | rangi | yay! |
| 20:26 | Dyrcona | yay! |
| 20:26 | magnuse | looks like our norwegian version of ncip will need some tweaking - i am thinking maybe a separate set of xml templates will tke care of a good chunk of it |
| 20:27 | rangi | most likely |
| 20:27 | i wonder if they will send the actions in norwegian instead of english | |
| 20:27 | Dyrcona | I pondered that, like how to configure something like that for different vendors, etc. |
| 20:27 | rangi | its perfectly valid according to the standard if they did |
| 20:27 | which is why i hate ncip :) | |
| 20:28 | Dyrcona | It's not the only reason, I'm sure. ;) |
| 20:28 | magnuse | found another small problem too |
| 20:28 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]616f;hb=HEAD#l176 should probably be | |
| 20:29 | $result = { success => 0, messages => {'ITEM_NOT_FOUND' => 1} }; | |
| 20:29 | similar to line 159 | |
| 20:29 | i *think* we are sticking to english | |
| 20:30 | Dyrcona | rangi will probably hate me, too, after he works out the merge. I changed a lot when it comes to the interfaces. |
| 20:31 | magnuse | yup, we are using english for the content/actions. but it might not be the same words as others, of course... |
| 20:34 | rangi | yeah |
| 20:34 | magnuse: that whole Koha.pm will get rewritten when the restful api comes along further | |
| 20:35 | but thats a wee way away, so patching it now is good | |
| 20:35 | Dyrcona: it'll be fine, i rarely hate anyone :) | |
| 20:35 | magnuse | oh, to replace the direct use of subroutines with the rest api? |
| 20:35 | rangi | exactly |
| 20:35 | magnuse | ah, interesting! |
| 20:35 | rangi | then it can sit on a sep machine etc |
| 20:36 | that was always part of the plan, but not enough hours in the day to do the api and the ncip server | |
| 20:36 | magnuse | hehe, yeah |
| 20:36 | i hope the rest api has enough wind in its sails to really get somewhere | |
| 20:36 | opl are very interested, at least | |
| 20:37 | rangi | i think it will |
| 20:37 | its actually easier to write/test than it seems | |
| 20:37 | because we know how it should behave | |
| 20:37 | ie, its not a new feature, just a new interface | |
| 20:37 | magnuse | true |
| 20:38 | rangi | and with Test::WWW::Mechanize |
| 20:38 | we can write the tests first | |
| 20:38 | and code until it passes :) | |
| 20:38 | magnuse | woohoo |
| 20:39 | Dyrcona: do you have a need for having the ils as a ncip client, sending out requests to ncip servers? | |
| 20:39 | Dyrcona | Not right now, no. |
| 20:40 | magnuse | i do |
| 20:40 | any thoughts on how you would do it? | |
| 20:40 | as part of the ils, or as part of ncipserver or as another free standing thing? | |
| 20:41 | Dyrcona | Not sure. I'd probably start a new project. |
| 20:41 | magnuse | ok |
| 20:41 | Dyrcona | That might be harder to plug in different backends. |
| 20:41 | magnuse | ok? |
| 20:42 | Dyrcona | Well, like, how NCIPServer is supposed to work with Koha or Evergreen or whatever. |
| 20:42 | That might be harder with a client. I haven't really thought about it. | |
| 20:42 | magnuse | no problem |
| 20:43 | i still have some time to figure things out :-) | |
| 20:43 | writing a client is not very hard though, just a bunch of templates that are POSTed to an endpoint | |
| 20:44 | Dyrcona | Right. I used LWP::UserAgent to smoke test the different requests during development. |
| 20:45 | magnuse | i have used HTTP::Tiny so far |
| 20:46 | rangi | i just did this |
| 20:47 | curl -X POST -d \@cancelrequestitem.xml http://website.goes.here/ncip --header "Content-Type:text/xml" | |
| 20:47 | cos im lazy | |
| 20:48 | Dyrcona | heh. |
| 20:48 | magnuse | i tried to validate the response from ncipserver and got what i thought was a weird result: |
| 20:48 | unknown-1689440:0: Schemas validity error : Element '{http://www.niso.org/2008/ncip}NCIPMessage', attribute 'version': The attribute 'version' is not allowed. | |
| 20:48 | unknown-1689440:0: Schemas validity error : Element '{http://www.niso.org/2008/ncip}NCIPMessage': The attribute '{http://www.niso.org/2008/ncip}version' is required but missing. | |
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| 20:49 | magnuse | it strikes me now that it might be a namespace thing |
| 20:49 | andreashm | hi all |
| 20:49 | Dyrcona | magnuse: It is a namespace thing. |
| 20:49 | magnuse | tjänare andreashm |
| 20:49 | andreashm | tjenare magnuse |
| 20:50 | * magnuse | loves it when people who have koha as their dayjob turns up outside office hours |
| 20:50 | * cait | waves |
| 20:50 | cait | andreashm: still fighting off the cold - you are still a suspect! :) |
| 20:51 | magnuse | Dyrcona: you wouldn't happen to know how to fix it? |
| 20:51 | Dyrcona | 1) Don't validate the output. |
| 20:52 | magnuse | lol |
| 20:52 | Dyrcona | 2) alter the xsd so the namespace is not required. |
| 20:52 | andreashm | cait: oh I'm perfectly innocent (*cough, cough*) |
| 20:52 | Dyrcona | 3) Add the namespace in the templates. |
| 20:53 | I played with 2 and 3 while testing, and found I preferred 2, but your vendor may complain. | |
| 20:55 | bag | magnuse (nuckles dood) HI |
| 20:56 | magnuse | yeah, we are a bunch of vendors trying to create interoperable systems - adherence to the xsd is one of the things we have agreed on |
| 20:56 | andreashm | magnuse: how's the ncip/ill work going? |
| 20:56 | magnuse | bag: HI & knuckles |
| 20:56 | andreashm: just getting started | |
| 20:56 | andreashm | magnuse: sounds like fun. =) |
| 20:57 | magnuse | yeah, it is interesting |
| 20:57 | * andreashm | is waiting for tomorrow and the Koha roundtable talks at the National Library. |
| 20:57 | magnuse | ah yes, that will be interesting! |
| 20:57 | cait | oh! |
| 20:57 | andreashm | magnuse: indeed |
| 20:58 | magnuse | andreashm: will you report live on irc? :-) |
| 20:59 | andreashm | magnuse: eh... probably not. bad at keeping notes and talking at the same time. so I'll stick to the talking. =) |
| 21:00 | I'll get Viktor to do that! =) | |
| 21:00 | cait | sounds like a plan :) |
| 21:00 | andreashm | cait: not sure Viktor will see it the same way though. |
| 21:01 | cait | hm what about...whoever is not talking in the moment has to report on irc? :) |
| 21:01 | magnuse | hehe, worth a try :-) |
| 21:25 | have fun #koha! | |
| 21:25 | rangi | cya magnuse |
| 21:35 | mtj | hi all |
| 21:36 | hey rangi, have you got a tic? | |
| 21:37 | ..i wanted to run a patch past you | |
| 21:37 | rangi | yep |
| 21:41 | mtj | hiya, just pm-ed you a url |
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| 21:56 | eythian | hi |
| 21:57 | cait | hi eythian |
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| 22:12 | eythian | cait: you need to stop finding issues in ES, I think. How will it every get finished if you make me have to stop and fix things? :) |
| 22:13 | cait | :P |
| 22:13 | you know it's not my fault that your code is not perfect yet | |
| 22:15 | eythian | I'm amused by your assumption that it will be at some stage :) |
| 22:16 | wizzyrea | You and your german notions of perfection. |
| 22:16 | ^.^ | |
| 22:16 | <3 | |
| 22:16 | dcook | hehe |
| 22:16 | cait | eythian: i am trying to be nice... |
| 22:16 | eythian | heh |
| 22:16 | dcook | cait: tell that to my wife |
| 22:17 | She doesn't appreciate me correcting things all the time :P | |
| 22:17 | cait++ | |
| 22:17 | * dcook | is super glad that cait is doing it, as dcook has had no time to help with ES :( |
| 22:17 | cait | dcook: i am not sure eythian would call it helping ;) |
| 22:18 | eythian: so did you fix everything? | |
| 22:18 | eythian | not yet |
| 22:18 | maybe tomorrow | |
| 22:18 | cait | tsk |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | if you could come up with a supply of tuits for him, that'd be great. |
| 22:19 | round ones are the best. | |
| 22:19 | cait | heh |
| 22:19 | i have run out.. temporarily | |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | it seems to be a global shortage |
| 22:21 | cait | eythian: just let me know when you are ready for more testing ;) |
| 22:21 | dcook | Need more students :P |
| 22:22 | * dcook | needs to breed so he has someone to fetch beer and to test patches |
| 22:22 | dcook | I really hope my progeny never lookup these IRC logs |
| 22:22 | eythian | cait: sure :) if I'm lucky, the SSO stuff I'm also working on will remain stuck at their end. |
| 22:22 | dcook | Unless they've just fetched me beer. Then we can laugh about it :p |
| 22:22 | cait | heh |
| 22:22 | eythian | haha |
| 22:30 | wizzyrea | http://www.slideshare.net/4614[…]-science-33574555 number 26 :( |
| 22:30 | actually, after 26 it kind of goes into rude territory. | |
| 22:31 | * dcook | is scared just to click |
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| 22:31 | dcook | Slide 26, or #26? |
| 22:31 | wizzyrea | number 26 |
| 22:31 | * dcook | facepalm |
| 22:31 | wahanui | somebody said facepalm was a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity. |
| 22:31 | wizzyrea | oh, and slide 26 |
| 22:31 | las 24 | |
| 22:32 | law | |
| 22:32 | dcook | Haha |
| 22:32 | Slide 29 does appear to be a thing | |
| 22:32 | I don't know why... | |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | because reasons. |
| 22:32 | dcook | But so many libraries I've worked in... someone has put barcodes and stamps on celebrity foreheads |
| 22:32 | It wasn't librarians though as they don't touch the periodicals... | |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | defacing celebrities is funny? idk. |
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| 22:34 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 22:34 | dcook | I think it was off limits in the Catholic library I worked in |
| 22:34 | That was a great library actually... | |
| 22:34 | The rules were tough but fair :p | |
| 22:35 | The librarian there was super nice. | |
| 22:35 | * dcook | still would have preferred to wear his hat indoors though |
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| 22:36 | dcook | Hmm, Library Law #19 might have basis in reality.. |
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