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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | BobB | cait, you must come! There, its settled! |
| 00:02 | dcook | :D |
| 00:02 | eythian | BobB: maybe it should rotate through the pacific islands too |
| 00:02 | you know, so they get a fair chance... | |
| 00:02 | not just so we get to spend a week in the islands. | |
| 00:02 | really. | |
| 00:02 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:03 | BobB | eythian +1 |
| 00:05 | looks like cait is on her way already | |
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| 00:12 | wizzyrea | I could probably convince the family that a trip to a hackfest in oz would be a good thing to do. |
| 00:13 | dcook | y/y? :D |
| 01:04 | papa | I am traditionally denied island trips :( |
| 01:05 | eythian | papa: why? |
| 01:06 | papa | exactly. when was the last time catalyst sent me to an island/ |
| 01:08 | eythian | you were over here some months ago, weren't you? |
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| 01:31 | papa | heh, I did not think about it that way |
| 01:34 | dcook | I could handle a trip to NZ one of these days... |
| 01:34 | A hackfest on the Greek Islands would be rather awesome | |
| 01:35 | eythian | a local company regularly does it to places like the islands. |
| 01:36 | then they jump on irc and say things like "hi, we're in Fiji. btw we're hiring" :) | |
| 01:40 | dcook | ? |
| 01:42 | eythian | I don't know what you're questioning there |
| 01:43 | dcook | I didn't really understand either sentence :) |
| 01:45 | eythian | has development retreats in places like... |
| 01:45 | dcook | Ahhh |
| 01:45 | That helps :) | |
| 01:50 | mtj | hi folks |
| 01:50 | rangi, got a tic..? | |
| 01:51 | ..i had a Q for you about my BZ workflow | |
| 01:53 | dcook | Hmm, it looks like this bank has been naughty... |
| 01:53 | Making up charges that don't actually exist. Tsk tsk... | |
| 01:54 | Ahh | |
| 01:54 | Apparently they can charge you money if you don't use your credit card often enough. | |
| 01:54 | I suppose they want to make money one way or another | |
| 01:56 | mtj | wow, thats horrible :/ |
| 01:56 | dcook | Fortunately, it's only a few dollars. I'd hate to think if it had been a greater sum. |
| 01:56 | Still. It's basically them stealing money :). | |
| 01:57 | mtj | curious, whats the bank? |
| 01:58 | dcook | I'll message you ;) |
| 01:58 | mtj | ta :) |
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| 02:05 | dcook | Oh, banks |
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| 02:37 | eythian | http://youtu.be/7eDkFlVSwnk <-- just what I'm listening to right now. |
| 02:39 | dcook | Hehe |
| 02:39 | I clicked it but didn't look | |
| 02:39 | Turned out to be an ad | |
| 02:41 | eythian | that's not what I'm listening to :) |
| 02:41 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:42 | eythian | you know that adblock plus blocks youtube ads, right? |
| 02:42 | as does µBlock, which is what I'm actually using nowadays | |
| 02:43 | dcook | I keep meaning to use adblock.. |
| 02:43 | What's uBlock? | |
| 02:43 | eythian | it's like adblock, but a bit lighter on resources. |
| 02:43 | otherwise pretty much the same | |
| 02:43 | dcook | Hmm, might have to take another look |
| 02:43 | This is catchy, btw | |
| 02:44 | eythian | it is, yes |
| 02:44 | the whole album is good, but I think that's the best from it. | |
| 02:45 | dcook | It reminds me a bit of another group.. |
| 02:46 | Might just be because they're Swedish though, hehe | |
| 02:46 | eythian | possibly :) |
| 02:46 | It's fairly different from Abba though | |
| 02:47 | dcook | Mmm maybe a bit |
| 02:47 | Reminds me a bit of Apoptygma Berzerk, although I guess they're Norwegian | |
| 02:48 | eythian | yeah, same ballpark as Apop |
| 03:10 | apparently every authority has 14,401 biblios. That may not be quite right. | |
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| 04:08 | Francesca | hey |
| 04:08 | eythian | hi |
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| 04:43 | eythian | http://elasticsearch.koha.cata[…]rderby=HeadingAsc <-- yay, biblio counting works. |
| 04:44 | though not in the most efficent way, need to sort something out in Catmandu I think. | |
| 05:03 | oh hey, so in the authority searching, the first page is page 0, followed by 1, etc. In biblio searching, the first page is page 1, followed by 2, etc. | |
| 05:03 | tricksy | |
| 05:13 | yay, basic authority functions are now working. | |
| 05:29 | dcook | \o/ |
| 05:29 | eythian++ | |
| 05:32 | Just as I'm getting through my backlog... 5pm creeps up and more people email.. | |
| 05:33 | eythian | heh |
| 05:42 | dcook | Oh Java... you are so my favourite way to spend the last 20 minutes of the word day |
| 05:42 | O_O | |
| 05:47 | eythian | it is the funnest. |
| 05:47 | * eythian | makes like a tree and gets outta here |
| 05:47 | & | |
| 05:57 | dcook | til tomorrow |
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| 06:41 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 06:41 | magnuse | moin drojf and #koha! |
| 06:42 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 06:59 | kivilahtio | morning |
| 07:02 | magnuse | hyvää päivää kivilahtio |
| 07:03 | kivilahtio | god morgon? |
| 07:03 | magnuse | according to google translate, yes :-) |
| 07:04 | in norwegian it would be "morgen" | |
| 07:04 | kivilahtio | magnuse: according to the top of my head |
| 07:04 | magnuse: but that might have been swedish | |
| 07:04 | I'll ry to remember next time | |
| 07:08 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 07:20 | mveron | Hi #Koha |
| 07:20 | @wunder Allschwil | |
| 07:20 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 0.0°C (8:00 AM CET on March 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:31 | magnuse | hiya mveron |
| 07:31 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:31 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 10, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:32 | mveron | hi magnuse :-) |
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| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:44 | mveron | hi reiveune :-) |
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| 07:44 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:45 | reiveune | salut mveron |
| 07:46 | mveron | Bonjour alex_a |
| 07:48 | drojf | hi mveron |
| 07:48 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 07:48 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:48 | mveron | hi drojf :-) |
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| 08:42 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:59 | kivilahtio | ello |
| 09:16 | fridolin | ello |
| 09:16 | kivilahtio: hie, how was your trip back home ? | |
| 09:21 | kivilahtio | fridolin: I got my luggage. I had a lot of insteresting discussion with peop0le |
| 09:21 | was a lot of fun | |
| 09:21 | now I have a TON OF STUFF to do. I heard if it the out-of-office -effect | |
| 09:23 | fridolin | kivilahtio: same for me ;) |
| 09:23 | i had greate time and a lot of exchanges | |
| 09:23 | i gone try to do more for the community | |
| 09:32 | * cait | waves |
| 09:32 | kivilahtio | watch out for waves! |
| 09:33 | cait | :P |
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| 09:37 | atheia | Morning #koha |
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| 09:39 | ashimema | morning atheia, cait |
| 09:43 | * mveron | waves ...and is in a bow wave of tasks... |
| 09:43 | kivilahtio | bow wave? |
| 09:43 | * magnuse | waves too |
| 09:43 | kivilahtio | noooo I can't take it anymore! |
| 09:44 | I am drowning... bulb bulb... | |
| 09:44 | magnuse | meeting in 24 hours and 16 minutes, right? |
| 09:44 | kivilahtio | who? |
| 09:44 | mveron | kivilahtio: "Bugwelle" in German. |
| 09:44 | kivilahtio | magnuse: what meeting? |
| 09:45 | drojf | hehe a wave of bugs |
| 09:46 | mveron | kivilahtio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_wave |
| 09:46 | :-) | |
| 09:46 | magnuse | kivilahtio: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_11_March_2015 |
| 09:47 | kivilahtio | thanks mveron, very interesting! |
| 09:47 | mveron: If I ever build a ship I know what kind of a bow wave i want | |
| 09:48 | magnuse: thanks, I'll be there | |
| 09:48 | drojf | magnuse: did you just volunteer to send a reminder to the mailing lists? :) |
| 09:51 | magnuse | drojf: maybe i did... |
| 09:51 | drojf | magnuse++ |
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| 09:52 | akafred | jajm: re bug 13799 - couldn't find a working sandbox url ... is it still supposed to be there? |
| 09:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13799 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Add base for building RESTful API |
| 09:56 | magnuse | akafred: did you use http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes ? |
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| 09:56 | * magnuse | has "set up sandboxes with normarc" somewhere down on his todo list |
| 09:57 | hands ashimema the velcro | |
| 09:57 | jajm | akafred, sandboxes are reset each night at 00:00 UTC, so you need to reapply the patch |
| 09:58 | ashimema | lol.. |
| 09:58 | thanks magnuse.. | |
| 09:58 | but of a woddly system this morning it seems | |
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| 10:05 | cait | hmpf |
| 10:05 | just lost an hour because my windows has the wrong time??? | |
| 10:05 | magnuse | cait: ? |
| 10:06 | just turn the clock back? | |
| 10:07 | cait | then i am going to miss the train :) |
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| 10:32 | akafred | I missed the ILL discussion in Marseille. How can I catch up? |
| 10:33 | magnuse | i think atheia took some notes? |
| 10:35 | i think the conculsion was that it would be ideal if koha could cover a superset of all the workflows that koha libraries need, and then be able to turn off the things that are not relevant to a given library/country/ill system | |
| 10:38 | drojf | mveron: do you know about the technical aspects of ILL in switzerland? |
| 10:40 | atheia | Re: ILL: Indeed, that's a pretty concise summary. |
| 10:40 | I'll put up an RFC with a link to my notes by the end of the week and send it to the list. | |
| 10:57 | cait1 | atheia++ :) |
| 10:58 | magnus_lunch | atheia++ |
| 10:58 | akafred | Cool feature with the sandboxes, except i got a "sandbox is not ready !" |
| 10:59 | ... which doesn't tell me mucho. | |
| 11:00 | rangi: Is this the current NCIP-server-repo? http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ver.git;a=summary | |
| 11:03 | magnuse | akafred: rangi is probably asleep, but i believe so, yes |
| 11:08 | Joubu | akafred: you should choose a DB |
| 11:10 | akafred: don't know what was the issue, but I can confirm you the patch has correctly been applied on sandbox 16 | |
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| 11:18 | akafred | ok. I'll try again, thanks Joubu |
| 11:20 | Joubu | akafred: thanks for your note on bug 13691! |
| 11:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Add some selenium scripts |
| 11:21 | Joubu | akafred: but, I have a question, when you say "we would require the tests to pass along with production code changes", that's mean we cannot test all uc |
| 11:21 | for instance we cannot test checkin/out and data creation/modification | |
| 11:21 | and a lot of other actions | |
| 11:23 | akafred | so the dbdependent-tests don't do that? |
| 11:23 | cait1 | bye all |
| 11:23 | time for another trip on a train... | |
| 11:23 | magnuse | have fun cait1 |
| 11:24 | Joubu | akafred: yes they do, in a transaction |
| 11:24 | but with selenium, it won't possible to rollback | |
| 11:24 | last sentence does not mean anything... | |
| 11:25 | akafred | I get what you are saying. |
| 11:25 | Joubu | I meant, with our current db dependent tests, we can test all what we want |
| 11:25 | except the ui | |
| 11:25 | akafred | There are ways to do this, one is to create test data in the test (and perhaps remove them again). |
| 11:26 | We're currently doing this in Oslo, but it is slw. | |
| 11:26 | slow | |
| 11:26 | Joubu | yes, that's what I did in my selenium script (at least I think) |
| 11:26 | but if something is wrong, the data could be not deleted. We don't want that in production :) | |
| 11:27 | akafred | Another way is to have sufficient test data to be able to find data you can use for a scenario as part of the test. |
| 11:27 | Joubu | akafred: yes, but no checkin/out for instance |
| 11:27 | akafred | Ah. So you run your db_dependent tests in production? |
| 11:27 | Joubu | no! :) |
| 11:28 | db_deps test only pass with a specific DB | |
| 11:28 | akafred | Exactly. |
| 11:29 | Joubu | Anyway, I am starving! |
| 11:30 | akafred | We have a strategy where we create and clean up test data for each scenario. Like this: https://github.com/digibib/ls.[…]d_values_steps.rb |
| 11:30 | The first step here creates an authorized value - and registers a cleanup closure that will be run on test teardown. | |
| 11:31 | It is cumbersome, but for a limited set of scenarios - doable. | |
| 11:32 | Yeah, I am starving, too. But no 'confit de canard' like I enjoyed when I snuck of for lunch in Marseille :-) | |
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| 11:47 | magnuse | hiya meliss |
| 11:47 | meliss | hi magnuse. How are you today? |
| 11:49 | magnuse | meliss: not too shabby - getting things done, for once |
| 11:50 | and yerself? | |
| 11:50 | meliss | hanging in there. |
| 11:51 | magnuse | yay |
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| 12:02 | akafred | jajm: Seems mojo defaults to returning http-status 204 if the Accept-header asks for a representation which isn't available. It should return 406. |
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| 12:05 | akafred | Joubu: And here is how we clean up: https://github.com/digibib/ls.[…]port/hooks.rb#L58 |
| 12:13 | kivilahtio | Joubu: do you want our DB? |
| 12:13 | it is for 3.16.4 so you might not be able to easily get the acquisitons data out | |
| 12:13 | +our patches | |
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| 12:18 | nlegrand | Hey #koha! |
| 12:21 | Joubu | kivilahtio: yep, I can update it |
| 12:22 | akafred: my ruby skills are not good enough to understand everything | |
| 12:22 | akafred: what does the cleanup call? | |
| 12:23 | ok got it | |
| 12:24 | jajm | akafred, you're right, mojo defaults to 204 No Content, it can be changed easily I think |
| 12:26 | akafred | joubu: yep, this line ( https://github.com/digibib/ls.[…]lues_steps.rb#L12 ) pushes a {"text" => closure } onto a list, while this line: https://github.com/digibib/ls.[…]port/hooks.rb#L58 runs the cleanup closures in reverse order. |
| 12:27 | But, this is the only time I have taken this approach. It is sort of a manual rollback ... | |
| 12:28 | Another approach could be to load a known dataset (say a library with stuff) using sql before each test run, and then cleaning up the library afterwards. | |
| 12:30 | ... to measure performance, we need a certain amount of stuff ... | |
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| 12:32 | akafred | Yet another approach is to create new test data with randomized identifiers, then you won't need to clean them up. |
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| 12:58 | * barton | waves to #koha |
| 12:59 | barton | morning all. |
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| 13:04 | barton | I have a partner who is very interested in the status of bug 12553. I left a @later for chris_n (to whom the ticket is assigned), but he seems to be out for an extended period of time. could someone else take a quick peek at it? |
| 13:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12553 normal, P3, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , copynumber, location not printing correctly on spine labels. |
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| 14:02 | mveron | Hi again :-) |
| 14:06 | drojf | why would koha say "HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench (0.73) Not Installed" when i just installed it? |
| 14:06 | apt-cache policy libhttpd-bench-apachebench-perl says | |
| 14:06 | libhttpd-bench-apachebench-perl: Installiert: 0.73-1 | |
| 14:11 | Joubu | What returns `pmvers HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench`? |
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| 14:28 | fridolin | drojf: this dependancy is not mandatory, strange |
| 14:28 | you look at "About" page maybe | |
| 14:36 | barton | is there a way to set up kohadevbox so that it will start with a bridged network adapter? |
| 14:37 | ... I can always futz around with the vm in virtualbox, but it would be nice to be able to set it up to start that way. | |
| 14:38 | magnuse | barton: dunno, but have a look at https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/[…]ntfile/index.html |
| 14:38 | patches are welcome, if you find a solution (it would probably have to be optional?) :-) | |
| 14:38 | * magnuse | wanders off to make dinner |
| 14:41 | akafred | barton: https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/[…]blic_network.html -- I think this would work: config.vm.network "public_network" --- remember to vagrant reload after changing the Vagrant file. |
| 14:51 | drojf | Joubu fridolin it looks like i made something funny with dh-make-perl, it installed to my home directory ;) |
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| 15:05 | drojf | building as root worked |
| 15:06 | it's fantastic to have a problem and find yourself in the koha logs 3 years ago having the same | |
| 15:06 | greetings to future me from the present, which will be your past :) | |
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| 15:22 | fridolin | drojf: ok |
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| 15:42 | barton | drojf: http://xkcd.com/979/ |
| 15:44 | drojf | heh |
| 15:44 | :D | |
| 15:44 | barton | the alt text is especially apropos |
| 15:49 | magnuse, akafred: adding 'config.vm.network "public_network"' to the appropriate section of Vagrantfile worked like a charm. | |
| 15:50 | @akafred++ | |
| 15:50 | huginn | barton: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 15:50 | barton | akafred++ |
| 15:54 | Joubu | bgkriegel: ./translate install es-ES |
| 15:54 | sh: 1: Syntax error: end of file unexpected | |
| 15:54 | is it "normal"? | |
| 15:57 | pastebot | "bgkriegel" at 200.16.17.253 pasted "Joubu: works for me!" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/4 |
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| 16:03 | Joubu | bgkriegel: hum, looks good now, I don't know what I did! |
| 16:06 | bgkriegel | :) |
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| 17:26 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 18:09 | * mveron | says good night to #koha, going to the theatre... |
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| 18:54 | tcohen | hi there |
| 18:55 | drojf | hi tcohen |
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| 19:20 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #60 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:27 | barton | chris_n++ |
| 19:28 | ^^ thanks for working with me on label printing bugs. | |
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| 19:51 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #18 for job Koha_Docs_3.16.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:51 | Project Koha_Docs_3.16.x build #18: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.16.x/18/ | |
| 19:51 | Nicole C. Engard: update 2 typos | |
| 19:58 | Starting build #651 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED) | |
| 19:58 | Project Koha_Docs build #651: SUCCESS in 2 min 21 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/651/ | |
| 19:58 | Nicole C. Engard: update 2 typos | |
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| 20:41 | * cait | waves |
| 20:42 | rangi | morning |
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| 20:43 | cait | morning rangi |
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| 21:49 | eythian | hi |
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| 23:36 | dcook | If only all open source projects were 24/7... |
| 23:39 | drojf | dcook: if you were 24/7, you'd be right in time for anyone ;) |
| 23:41 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:41 | True true | |
| 23:46 | drojf | almost 1am. i should leave before i'm 24/7. goodnight, have a nice day |
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