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| 01:04 | pianohacker | can I throw up an out-of-the-loop batsignal? My zebra is borked, and rebuilds fail with No such record type: dom./home/feoh3/l/koha/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config-marc.xml |
| 01:07 | eythian | yes, that may happen |
| 01:07 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_such_record_type | |
| 01:07 | I need to give that page some more polish | |
| 01:08 | pianohacker | *sigh* zebra errors... thank you |
| 01:09 | eythian | I had the same issue a little while ago, hence writing it down |
| 01:10 | pianohacker | you're mahvelous. How on earth did you figure that out? |
| 01:11 | eythian | I think I googled and found someone else who had similar issues and eventually worked it out. |
| 01:14 | pianohacker | eythian++ |
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| 01:49 | * dcook | heads off again |
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| 02:40 | eythian | http://www.metafilter.com/1473[…]g-for-small-wages |
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| 05:39 | * dcook | thinks the person writing the serials help doesn't know the definition of biannually or bimonthly... |
| 05:40 | dcook | Mind you, it's not an easy thing to talk about |
| 05:41 | I just read an email talking about "two per month (ie two monthly)" | |
| 05:41 | That sounds like two per month... but then it sounds like it's referring to two specific issues from two different months in parentheses... | |
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| 06:33 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:33 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 1.1°C (7:33 AM CET on February 27, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:33 | cait | @wunder Marseille |
| 06:33 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 6.6°C (7:33 AM CET on February 27, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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| 06:51 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 06:51 | * cait | waves |
| 06:53 | drojf | hi cait :) |
| 06:55 | cait | hi drojf :) |
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| 07:19 | coles | hola |
| 07:19 | wahanui | hey, coles |
| 07:19 | coles | hi |
| 07:19 | rsz | hi, I have added a book as biblio, and further added an item inside it, still when I try to place a hold, I get the errror "No available items." on opac search, |
| 07:20 | coles | Anyone familiar with postfix? Want to sent notices from Koha using it. Or any suggestion how I can send notices to patron? |
| 07:21 | Using email of course | |
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| 07:29 | cait | hi cole - does the item show up in opac? |
| 07:30 | did you set up a default circulation rule? try adding one for the default libray, default category and default itemtype (or all all all, whatever it says) | |
| 07:33 | coles | yep item show up in opac |
| 07:37 | * magnuse | waves then dives headlong into the swedish yearly statistics |
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| 07:42 | magnuse | tjänare Viktor |
| 07:42 | and matts | |
| 07:42 | coles | already setup for the circulation rules |
| 07:42 | Viktor | Godmorgon magnuse |
| 07:44 | coles | anyone know how to setup postfix? use for send notices from koha. any tutorial website or forum link |
| 07:45 | rsz | can anyone help me get beyond this: http://picpaste.com/Screen_Sho[…]1.01-jWFeOUdR.png ? |
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| 07:49 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:49 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:49 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 6.9°C (8:49 AM CET on February 27, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:49 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:49 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:51 | magnuse | not lloking too bad :-) http://www.yr.no/place/France/[…]ux_Port/long.html |
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| 07:57 | fridolin | hie |
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| 07:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:59 | wahanui | hello, alex_a |
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| 08:16 | * magnuse | wishes there was a universally agreed upon set of statistics that every library on the planet had to report to the government |
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| 08:29 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:32 | cait | ashimema: around? |
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| 09:41 | ashimema | am now |
| 09:41 | whad up cait | |
| 10:18 | drojf | you have probably seen it if relevant to you, anyway there have been a dspace security releases |
| 10:18 | without the 'a' | |
| 10:28 | cait | ashimema: still aroundß sorry, missed you earlier |
| 10:28 | ashimema | . |
| 10:29 | cait | pm :) |
| 10:32 | magnuse | do we still want to use "standing bugs" like bug 2500? |
| 10:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2500 enhancement, P3, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , Standing enhancement request for adding/updating call number splitting algorithms in C4/Labels.pm |
| 10:32 | magnuse | isn't our current thinking that it is better to keep everything on separate bugs? |
| 10:33 | cait | i amnot a fan, but i think we are not all of the same opinion |
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| 10:36 | Viktor | magnuse: What would be the fun in the same statistics everywhere? Or even the same questions each year? |
| 10:37 | magnuse | cait: ok, i'll leave it then |
| 10:37 | Viktor: true ;-) | |
| 10:46 | ashimema | whats a 'standing enhancement' ? |
| 10:47 | personally I far prefer using bugzilla dependancies management | |
| 10:49 | cait | me too |
| 10:49 | less confusing if bugs don't jump back to start all the time:) | |
| 10:51 | ashimema | yup |
| 10:51 | can we just close that one ;) | |
| 10:52 | magnuse | ashimema: you have my support :-) |
| 10:52 | * magnuse | wanders off to have lunch |
| 10:52 | cait | heh |
| 10:53 | magnuse: i think you brought it up, so it's up to you :) | |
| 10:53 | * magnuse | is having lunch |
| 11:13 | drojf | are there examples of koha opacs customized for children? |
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| 11:22 | ashimema | I'm sure I've seen a few.. though can't off the top of my head link to them |
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| 11:29 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:29 | eythian++ | |
| 11:29 | ashimema | morning tcohen |
| 11:29 | tcohen | hi ashimema |
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| 11:56 | magnuse | ah, looks like tcohen made it to france?!? |
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| 12:21 | cait | drojf: ask rangi - i think they did a kids one |
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| 12:29 | cait | Joubu: looks like you were busy yesterday :) |
| 12:30 | magnuse | Joubu++ |
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| 12:30 | drojf | cait: thanks |
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| 13:05 | p_vdk_ | tcohen: You should buy your tickets there : http://www.digitick.com/olympi[…]01-ri2522586.html |
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| 13:49 | paul_p | tcohen |
| 13:49 | wahanui | tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts |
| 13:49 | paul_p | hello tcohen ;-) |
| 13:49 | fun to chat, while he is less than 1m far :D | |
| 13:51 | magnuse | yay |
| 13:51 | arrived in one piece? | |
| 13:55 | tcohen | heh |
| 13:55 | hi paul_p | |
| 13:55 | hi magnuse | |
| 13:55 | i arrived in one, flat single piece | |
| 13:55 | paul_p | magnuse I confirm he arrived safely. |
| 13:55 | he already has a ticket for the football match tonight, at the stadium ;-) | |
| 13:56 | (with a friend of mine) | |
| 13:56 | tcohen | allez olimpique! |
| 13:57 | paul_p | tcohen olympique ;-) (and we usually say "allez l'OM" (Olympique de Marseille) ) |
| 13:57 | tcohen | i can learn that :-D |
| 13:57 | paul_p | the good point with you not speaking french is that you won't understand the all the slang an insults they throw... |
| 13:57 | * tcohen | was improvising |
| 13:58 | tcohen | i'll need translators |
| 14:00 | paul_p | tcohen : if you hear somethinrg about "Paris" or "PSQ", then close your hears (and yes, Paris has nothing to do with this match, it's not PSG-OM. But you know, marseille is forever jealous that Paris is the capital of France, not Marseille |
| 14:00 | tcohen | of course, those bastards! |
| 14:01 | magnuse | hehe |
| 14:01 | paul_p | bastard is really much much more light that what you'll hear ;-) |
| 14:02 | tcohen = what reiveune just said "paris, on t'encule", means "paris, we f..k you hard" ... forget it pls ;-) | |
| 14:02 | tcohen | hehehe |
| 14:02 | i wasn't planning on using that, don't worry | |
| 14:02 | reiveune | :) |
| 14:03 | * magnuse | thought tcohen was going to a sports game... |
| 14:04 | tcohen | heh |
| 14:13 | magnuse | see y'all on monday! |
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| 14:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #80 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) |
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| 14:50 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:50 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 14:50 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.16.x_D7 build #79: FIXED in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.16.x_D7/79/ |
| 14:50 | * Mason James: Revert "Bug 13431 [QA Follow-up]: Shared FastMmap file causes issues" | |
| 14:50 | * Mason James: Revert "Bug 13431 - Shared FastMmap file causes issues" | |
| 14:50 | * Mason James: Bumping version number for 3.16.8 release | |
| 14:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13431 critical, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Stable , Shared FastMmap file causes issues |
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| 14:58 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #80: NOW UNSTABLE in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/80/ |
| 14:58 | * Mason James: Revert "Bug 13431 [QA Follow-up]: Shared FastMmap file causes issues" | |
| 14:58 | * Mason James: Revert "Bug 13431 - Shared FastMmap file causes issues" | |
| 14:58 | * Mason James: Bumping version number for 3.16.8 release | |
| 14:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13431 critical, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Stable , Shared FastMmap file causes issues |
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| 16:02 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:11 | fridolin | see you and for some IRL at HackFest, have a nice trip |
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| 16:24 | gaetan_B | bye, see you on monday ! |
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| 16:39 | cait | bye, and hi from marseille next week :) |
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| 16:54 | kivilahtio2 | looking for trouble |
| 16:55 | drojf | in marseille? :D |
| 16:56 | kivilahtio2 | yes |
| 16:57 | drojf: Thomas is sleeping... and he goes to some football game. Sounds like he wont play with me :( | |
| 16:57 | drojf | not fair |
| 16:57 | kivilahtio2 | tell me about it |
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| 17:22 | kivilahtio2 | Ok we are friends again :) |
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| 17:40 | squash | Hi, I have a little issue adding barcodes for items in Koha. If I go to edit the item, the barcode is shown. When I view the record in the cataloging menu, the items don't have a barcode listed. So, I looked through the database and noticed that the barcodes column has a null value for each item, even though the barcode number is shown when I go to edit the items. If I manually add the barcodes through the database, they show up in the cataloging menu |
| 17:41 | and can be searched by barcode or checked out, unlike before, I was getting barcode not found | |
| 17:44 | oleonard | What do you mean by "view the record in the cataloging menu?" |
| 17:46 | squash | one sec. trying to get screenshots. |
| 17:51 | oleonard: http://imgur.com/1MpKC3u,wzl5ob2 | |
| 17:52 | the first images is the items listed when I go to edit the record and add items, and it shows the barcode. | |
| 17:52 | the second images is when I search the catalog through the staff client for the book, the barcode column is blank. and shows (NULL) in the database. | |
| 17:54 | oleonard | That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on. |
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| 18:02 | drojf | if i had tried reindexing before changing to dom, i'd know if i broke something now or earlier. sigh |
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| 18:04 | drojf | also i'd prefer ebsco to sponsor somebody to update all that outdated wiki entries over having elasticsearch 1000 times. |
| 18:05 | kivilahtio2 | drojf: I am starting to doubt the necessity of elasticsearch, until i start to work with Zebra again |
| 18:05 | it always gets me | |
| 18:06 | drojf | oh. well. you got a point there, because i'd not need outdated wiki entries on zebra then in the first place :D |
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| 18:37 | drojf | it's really bad we tell people to switch to dom and there is no information on how to do that that a regular person could use in any way |
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| 18:49 | * drojf | feeds the wiki to zebra and kicks zebra off a cliff |
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| 19:33 | barton | before I go spelunking into ./C4/SIP/ILS, can anyone tell me about how Koha handles renewals through SIP: will it accept a renewal using the "11" check out message, or will it only accept a "29" renewal message? |
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| 19:54 | barton | so, based on C4/SIP/Sip/Constants.pm and MsgType.pm, I can tell that Koha is definitely *capable* of parsing sip message type 29 (RENEW) and 65 (RENEW_ALL), but I don't know yet how it will/should respond to a check out request for an item that is already checked out to the user. Any pointers? Even a section of code to look at would be helpful. |
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| 20:08 | magnuse | hiya Viktor |
| 20:08 | Viktor | Hi magnuse! |
| 20:09 | drojf | which was the first release with dom indexing for biblios out of the box? |
| 20:10 | 3.14 | |
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| 20:13 | magnuse | wheee! |
| 20:14 | cait | wheee |
| 20:14 | drojf | mööp |
| 20:14 | magnuse | møøp |
| 20:16 | drojf | it's møøp in norwegian :D |
| 20:16 | magnuse | sure is :) |
| 20:17 | drojf | i wonder why your umlauts are broken for me |
| 20:17 | cait: can you say mööp please? | |
| 20:17 | cait | mööp? |
| 20:17 | magnuse | mööp |
| 20:17 | drojf | cait's are ok for me |
| 20:17 | jcamins | magnuse: I think there's a problem with UTF-8 in your IRC client. |
| 20:17 | cait | magnuse are broken intentionally i think |
| 20:17 | oh | |
| 20:17 | or that | |
| 20:17 | drojf | no i have seen it before |
| 20:17 | magnuse | møøp |
| 20:18 | drojf | i think jcamins is right |
| 20:18 | * magnuse | suspects jcamins of being right too |
| 20:19 | uses XChat | |
| 20:19 | drojf | alright, i have to go to buy some chocolate and you fix magnuse's umlauts while i'm gone :) |
| 20:20 | jcamins | drojf: are you going to give us some of the chocolate? |
| 20:21 | * magnuse | has chocolate |
| 20:21 | magnuse | norwegian milk chocolate |
| 20:23 | møøp mööp | |
| 20:23 | better now? | |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 20:24 | magnuse | might have to restart |
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| 20:25 | magnuse | møøp mööp |
| 20:25 | jcamins | Much better! |
| 20:25 | magnuse | yay |
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| 20:28 | squash | netsplits are fun |
| 20:28 | magnuse | so in XChat do XChat > Network List... > OFTC > Edit... then choose UTF-8 as the Character set, click "Close" twice and restart |
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| 20:33 | Viktor | Any tourist advice for Marseille btw? |
| 20:40 | cait | :) |
| 20:45 | barton | TIL irssi sucks when it comes to diacritics. |
| 20:46 | [actually, I pretty well alreayd knew that] | |
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| 20:48 | * barton | wants a console based IRC client that groks readline and UTF8... other than that, he is satisfied with irssi |
| 20:49 | magnuse | Viktor: notre dame de la garde - steep but not too long climb from the biblibre office, with a magnificent view |
| 20:49 | cait | very steep |
| 20:49 | don't eat too much cheese before you go up there | |
| 20:49 | magnuse | nah, not too bad |
| 20:49 | Viktor | :) |
| 20:49 | magnuse | hehe |
| 20:49 | Viktor | Sunds sweet |
| 20:49 | magnuse | i like Le Panier, the old town |
| 20:49 | Viktor | Views is always good. |
| 20:50 | Is it safe to walk about? | |
| 20:50 | magnuse | i have never seen anything scary in the city center |
| 20:51 | (but i have never hung around in bars half the night either) | |
| 20:51 | Viktor | magnuse: phew :) |
| 20:51 | cait | heh |
| 20:51 | yeah same here | |
| 20:51 | magnuse | marseille *is* a violent city, but i think most of that happens in the suburbs |
| 20:52 | Viktor | Yes there was some international news the other day. |
| 20:52 | magnuse | oh? |
| 20:52 | Viktor | There was some kind of incident with people firing automatic weapons at the police. In the suburbs |
| 20:53 | magnuse | oops |
| 20:53 | yeah, someone was shot and killed the last time we were there, apparently | |
| 20:53 | Viktor | Also oops. |
| 20:54 | Reading up on some tourists site made me sort of reevalutate the whole "I'll just have a nice walk" a bit. | |
| 20:54 | magnuse | the museum called Mucem is really nice |
| 20:54 | they have a good restaurant too | |
| 20:55 | Viktor | To bad I'm not staying the full week. |
| 20:55 | magnuse | yup :-) |
| 20:55 | next year ;-) | |
| 20:56 | * drojf | throws some lactose free chocolate into #koha :D |
| 20:56 | drojf | yay you fixed the umlauts :) |
| 20:57 | magnuse | i plan on skiving off after lunch one day, to walk in the panier and maybe eat at Mucem... |
| 20:57 | Viktor | magnuse: Might very well be the case :) |
| 20:57 | magnuse | møøp mööp |
| 20:57 | drojf | very nice :D |
| 20:58 | magnuse | Viktor: how are your umlauts doing? they are usually borken in pm |
| 20:58 | Viktor | ??? looks like this. Throwing in some ? ? ??? |
| 20:59 | drojf | thats a lot of ? |
| 20:59 | magnuse | for me too |
| 21:00 | Viktor | Hm. Looks fine from here, but it's nice to be understood too... |
| 21:00 | magnuse | question marks, that is |
| 21:01 | Viktor: maybe try fiddling with your settings a bit? | |
| 21:02 | ooh, nso is "only" 152! how low can we get it during next week? | |
| 21:02 | Viktor | Is there anything to do on the client side? XChat Azure. Did a quick look in the settings but no obvious UTF-8. |
| 21:02 | I'll have a new look around. | |
| 21:02 | magnuse | i did this in XChat on ubuntu: XChat > Network List... > OFTC > Edit... then choose UTF-8 as the Character set, click "Close" twice and restart |
| 21:03 | drojf | Viktor: http://xchat.org/encoding/ |
| 21:03 | magnuse | restart xchat, that is, not the whole machine |
| 21:03 | drojf | i hope their docs are not as outdated as ours |
| 21:03 | magnuse | that is what i used, drojf |
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| 21:07 | Viktor | How about ÅÄÖ œ ç |
| 21:07 | drojf | nice! |
| 21:07 | magnuse | yay! |
| 21:07 | tjänare! | |
| 21:08 | Viktor | Müch better |
| 21:09 | drojf | heh |
| 21:09 | Viktor | I'll stop after this one. But I'm looking forward to the Häckfest! |
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| 21:10 | magnuse | friday evening - perfect time for fixing the important things ;-) |
| 21:10 | drojf | i'm the only one not going to marseille, right? :'( |
| 21:10 | magnuse | yup |
| 21:10 | tcohen isn't going, he is there already :-) | |
| 21:11 | cait | magnuse: aah, did he give a life sign? |
| 21:11 | magnuse | yup |
| 21:11 | drojf | kivilahtio forced him to go out and party i think :D |
| 21:12 | magnuse | he is going to a football match this evening, with a friend of paul_p, if i am not mistaken |
| 21:12 | @seen tcohen | |
| 21:12 | huginn | magnuse: tcohen was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 7 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <tcohen> heh |
| 21:13 | drojf | @seen kivilahtio2 |
| 21:13 | huginn | drojf: kivilahtio2 was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 7 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <kivilahtio2> it always gets me |
| 21:13 | cait | cool :) |
| 21:15 | magnuse | oh Viktor: are you into architecture? |
| 21:16 | Viktor | magnuse: No not really. Even if I can appreciate the thought that goes into good architecture. |
| 21:17 | magnuse | http://www.marseille-citeradieuse.org/ was pretty awesome |
| 21:18 | Viktor | The kind of thing I can't tell interested in culture that I missed for sitting in a crowded office with my computer :) |
| 21:19 | Looks quite interesting. | |
| 21:20 | magnuse | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]%27Habitation#Cit.C3.A9_radieuse.2C_Marseille |
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| 21:40 | * magnuse | wishes #koha a good weekend - see some of you on monday! |
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| 21:50 | talljoy | jcamins? |
| 21:50 | wahanui | jcamins is brilliant |
| 21:54 | talljoy | nice wahanui |
| 21:54 | authorities? | |
| 21:54 | wahanui | authorities is http://www.loc.gov/marc/uma/index.html |
| 21:55 | talljoy | linker? |
| 21:55 | wahanui | well, linker is entirely Zebra-based. |
| 21:55 | talljoy | stumped you! |
| 21:57 | darn. i didn't | |
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| 22:52 | drojf | i have completely rewritten the 'switching to dom indexing' wiki page |
| 22:52 | dani | hello |
| 22:52 | cait | drojf++ |
| 22:52 | drojf | i am too tired now to test if i did not forget anything. so i hope i have not ;) |
| 22:53 | cait | heh |
| 22:53 | hi dani | |
| 22:53 | dani | hi, cait and everyone can anyone answer a question I have about a calendar sys pref? |
| 22:53 | Here it is: in the sys pref useDaysMode what is the different between "calculate the due date using (the calendar to push the due date to the next open day) and (the calendar to skip all days the library is closed.) | |
| 22:53 | are you in France cait? | |
| 22:54 | cait | not yet |
| 22:54 | going there by train on sunday | |
| 22:54 | ok | |
| 22:54 | the first uses the next open day, if the due date would fall onto a day the library is closed | |
| 22:54 | so say... the loan period is 2 weeks | |
| 22:54 | but the due date would fall on a monday that is a holiday | |
| 22:54 | then the script looks at tuesday | |
| 22:55 | tuesday is closed too... so wednesday | |
| 22:55 | and ah, wednesday is open, so that will be the due date | |
| 22:55 | the second option only counts days the library is open, so 2 weeks is 14 opening days... and weekends not counted | |
| 22:56 | dani | OK. |
| 22:56 | cait | did this make sense? |
| 22:56 | dani | that makes sense now |
| 22:56 | yes | |
| 22:56 | Thanks so much | |
| 22:57 | drojf | the last part was confusing to me ;) |
| 22:57 | ah. now | |
| 22:57 | nevermind :) | |
| 22:57 | cait | it won't be amonday in the second case.. |
| 22:57 | if you want it to be the second mondy... and saturday and sunday are closed... the loan period you would use is 10 | |
| 22:57 | i think | |
| 22:57 | we mostly use the next opening day - it seems the most fair | |
| 22:57 | cool :) | |
| 22:58 | dani | would either of those prefs to not respect a holiday? |
| 22:58 | cait | hm? |
| 22:58 | i think here is one to ignore the calendar | |
| 22:58 | dani | yes, saw that. the library I am working was using push to the next open date, but many items ended up with a due date on that holiday |
| 22:58 | cait | hm is that the one with the 3 options? the pref? or is that anothe rone i am thinking about? |
| 22:59 | dani | you are thinking of the right one |
| 22:59 | cait | hm |
| 22:59 | did they enter the date on time? | |
| 22:59 | dani | I looked to see that the items were not issued before they put it on the calendar |
| 22:59 | cait | i mean the holiday? |
| 22:59 | which version are they using? | |
| 23:00 | dani | 3.16.04 |
| 23:00 | they issues book on 1/26 and report putting the holiday on the calendar before the new year | |
| 23:01 | I even checked to see if patron accounts expired on that day ... nope | |
| 23:01 | cait | ifyou entered the holiday too late... the dates would already be calculated wrong |
| 23:01 | not aware of a bug in the current versions... but would require some testing | |
| 23:01 | dani | I could not replicated on 3.18 |
| 23:02 | I bet they put the date on the calendar later than they thought? | |
| 23:02 | cait | hm yeah good idea |
| 23:02 | weird | |
| 23:02 | it might be a possibility | |
| 23:02 | can you reproduce it on 3.16? | |
| 23:02 | we got a couple of unit tests on those functions i think | |
| 23:02 | dani | I haven't tried, trying to make sure I understood sys prefs |
| 23:03 | cait | it hsould work so that the due date can't be on a holiday |
| 23:03 | with pushing to the next opening day | |
| 23:04 | dani | I don't know what a unit test is {{{blush}}} |
| 23:05 | cait | ah, it's automated tests that should check this works ok for several cases |
| 23:05 | they are run automatically everytime we change something int he code | |
| 23:05 | the idea is to prevent regressions | |
| 23:06 | dani | agh, can I do that? |
| 23:07 | cait | it should be ok |
| 23:07 | i was just wondering... that should not be possible | |
| 23:07 | but there is always a chance that something was missed | |
| 23:08 | but if it turned out you found a bug, we could write a new test for the problem - and prevent it from happening again | |
| 23:09 | well... or someonesmarter than me could | |
| 23:09 | :) | |
| 23:10 | dani | Ok. I will keep poking around the explanation of the two sys prefs was helpful, several of us were stumped on that |
| 23:10 | cait | hope you can figure it out |
| 23:10 | dani | thanks cait, I will see if I can get more information and test on another 3.16 site |
| 23:11 | cait | maybe looking at what kind of holiday is would be helpful for testing |
| 23:11 | a repeatable one or a single on | |
| 23:14 | dani | unique holiday |
| 23:14 | single | |
| 23:20 | cait | another possible scenario woudl be a renewal with a manual renewal date... or a specific due date... |
| 23:20 | but for multiple cases probably not so likely here hm. | |
| 23:20 | * akafred | est arrivé a Marseille. |
| 23:20 | cait | hi akafred :) |
| 23:21 | see you sunday night then | |
| 23:21 | dani | yeah, I have two books checked out six minutes apart, same itype different due dates |
| 23:21 | neither renewed | |
| 23:22 | akafred | Yup! If I'm not lost in the Calanques :-) |
| 23:22 | cait | hm |
| 23:22 | are they using the feature to shorten the due dates ith many holds? | |
| 23:22 | dani | one is 2/16 (holiday), one is 2/17 |
| 23:22 | cait | just wondering loud what settings could influence the due date |
| 23:22 | dani | hm |
| 23:22 | let me check | |
| 23:22 | cait | akafred: youare aso at adonis? |
| 23:23 | i likedit last year, hope not all good rooms are taken once i get there :) | |
| 23:24 | akafred | Well ... not the most luxurious place I've stayed in ... :-) |
| 23:29 | cait | well, everything is relative :) |
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| 23:33 | cait | hmpf |
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