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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | rangi | ghent isnt that far from marseille |
| 00:00 | (in the scheme of things hehe) | |
| 00:00 | eythian | MARC converts to JSON and embeds some JSON-MARC (to coin a standard), which then gets converted back to MARC on searching for display |
| 00:00 | this is mostly so it fits in with the existing framework. | |
| 00:01 | tcohen | does catmandu provide the bridge back to Koha from ES? |
| 00:01 | eythian | I think less so |
| 00:01 | can't remember if we use it at all for that or not | |
| 00:01 | tcohen | i'll be back to argentina by 9th? |
| 00:01 | rangi | ah bummer |
| 00:02 | we dont currently | |
| 00:02 | currently we are doing the same workflow as with zebra, export index, search, get full record from database | |
| 00:02 | however | |
| 00:03 | as elasticsearch hands back json .. we could switch to quite a different search/display in the next phase | |
| 00:03 | even something like using angularjs to display results .. ajax search | |
| 00:04 | tcohen | yeah, was just thinking about that |
| 00:04 | rangi | but for now, we want something that works pretty much the same as zebra |
| 00:04 | so we can test it | |
| 00:04 | and then we can move forward | |
| 00:04 | if that makes sense? | |
| 00:04 | tcohen | it makes alot of sense |
| 00:04 | the only problem might be policy | |
| 00:04 | about what to show/hide | |
| 00:05 | rangi | *nod* |
| 00:05 | tcohen | that might put Koha in the middlle |
| 00:05 | eythian | also working this way it's possible to switch out implementations fairly cleanly |
| 00:05 | rangi | or make that be an index |
| 00:05 | theres options :) | |
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| 00:06 | eythian | for policy you'd put a filter in |
| 00:06 | rangi | its a shame we cant make it to the hackfest |
| 00:06 | eythian | so you'd have "and somethingsomething must-not equal 1", and the query would work within the results of that. |
| 00:06 | (OpacSupression currently not implemented, as it's done in a really bad way in zebra.) | |
| 00:07 | tcohen | eythian: i was thinking about the frameworks |
| 00:07 | and per-branch authorized va | |
| 00:07 | lues | |
| 00:07 | eythian | oh, well right now what works just like zebra I think |
| 00:07 | i.e. it's all done after the fact. | |
| 00:08 | rangi | yep, thats a in the future thing |
| 00:08 | /svc/authorised_values/ccode/FISH | |
| 00:08 | etc | |
| 00:08 | that would be a super simple service to write :) | |
| 00:08 | dcook | tcohen: I was thinking about that a bit even with Zebra... I think the frameworks might need to be refined some more? |
| 00:08 | rangi | maybe ill save that for next students |
| 00:09 | dcook | As sometimes you'll want to export the full record and sometimes you don't... |
| 00:09 | rangi | an authorised values service |
| 00:09 | for opac and staff | |
| 00:13 | tcohen | dcook: don't know what are you talking about |
| 00:14 | eythian: for some stuff we should be doing some stuff on indexing-time | |
| 00:14 | rangi: I agree | |
| 00:14 | dcook | tcohen: Oh well, it probably doesn't matter. |
| 00:15 | * dcook | got cooked this morning by a server |
| 00:15 | dcook | A/C didn't turn on due to a bad hub... so my brain might still be scrambled |
| 00:15 | Or is it poached? | |
| 00:16 | tcohen | dcook: my condolencies |
| 00:16 | dcook | thanks ;) |
| 00:16 | tcohen | (for the server) |
| 00:24 | wizzyrea | poaching is a pretty gentle cooking method. |
| 00:25 | was there warm-ish oil or water involved? because otherwise you're baked or broiled #cookingpedant | |
| 00:27 | oh. I should check master but I think if you don't want opaccustomsearch to nuke your search box even if empty, you have to enter "NULL" in it | |
| 00:27 | just leaving that here. | |
| 00:27 | for no real good reason except "ugh annoy" | |
| 00:30 | tcohen | wizzyrea: fill a bug? please :-D |
| 00:31 | wizzyrea | yeah probably will do once I've checked that actually happens on master :) |
| 00:31 | unless you just did and can confirm (which btw I'm not asking you to) | |
| 00:38 | dcook | opaccustomsearch? |
| 00:38 | Yeah, probably baked | |
| 00:39 | eythian | rats |
| 00:40 | I wanted to know what tcohen thought we should be doing at indexing time | |
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| 00:51 | wizzyrea | it probably had something to do with unicorn giraffes. |
| 00:51 | yes, I do get a little more random every day. | |
| 00:52 | eythian | no, that was quite deterministic. Also, they're not giraffes, they're long horses. |
| 00:52 | wizzyrea | hehehe |
| 00:56 | eythian | https://twitter.com/MattNipper[…]67111339366047744 |
| 00:58 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 01:26 | eythian | new master packages uploading |
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| 02:01 | jcamins | cait? |
| 02:01 | wahanui | somebody said cait was happy about some example opacs :) |
| 02:01 | jcamins | cait? |
| 02:01 | wahanui | i think cait is regretting a bit that we didn't offer this as an option first... or on a test system for people to see |
| 02:01 | jcamins | cait? |
| 02:01 | wahanui | cait is lookign forward to the API discussion |
| 02:01 | jcamins | cait? |
| 02:01 | wahanui | somebody said cait was very pale, and needs lots of sun lotion. |
| 02:01 | jcamins | cait? |
| 02:01 | wahanui | i guess cait is from germany. Ask me about germany. |
| 02:01 | jcamins | cait? |
| 02:01 | wahanui | cait is very pale, and needs lots of sun lotion. |
| 02:03 | eythian | look what you did jcamins |
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| 02:19 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:19 | "activate berr reporting" | |
| 02:19 | I read that as "activate beer reporting" | |
| 02:19 | * dcook | was rather happy for a second there |
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| 04:29 | dcook | Hmm, I didn't know that "sort" had a "-h" switch |
| 04:29 | That's rad | |
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| 06:13 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 06:36 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:39 | wahanui | hi, reiveune |
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| 08:03 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:03 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 08:06 | Joubu | hello |
| 08:07 | magnuse | bonjour france! |
| 08:08 | @wunder marseille | |
| 08:08 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 7.2°C (9:07 AM CET on February 16, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:08 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:08 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 16, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:08 | magnuse | above 0? i don't think so |
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| 08:13 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:17 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 08:17 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 08:39 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 08:40 | drojf | hei magnuse |
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| 09:08 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
| 09:09 | just 2 weeks now... :-) | |
| 09:28 | * ashimema | is seeing delays on his passport renewal.. that puts Marseilles in jeopardy for him :( |
| 09:29 | drojf1 joined #koha | |
| 09:29 | Joubu | ashimema: that's not a good news! |
| 09:30 | ashimema | no.. it's rather annoying.. |
| 09:30 | I'm wondering if it doesn't come through in time how I can partake remotely. | |
| 09:34 | magnuse | ashimema: can't you get a temporary passport? |
| 09:35 | * magnuse | has been to marseille 3 times without showing a passport |
| 09:37 | Joubu | magnuse: UK is not in the schengen area... |
| 09:37 | ashimema | what Joubu said |
| 09:38 | we don't have ID cards in the UK so we need a passport even for europe.. I could wing it on a ferry, but flights tend to be allot more strict in my experience. | |
| 09:38 | can't believe I forgot it needed renewing.. 10 years is a long gap between renewals I suppose | |
| 09:40 | drojf | what about the temporary passport option magnuse proposed? it's common in germany too. |
| 09:40 | i had to do it once when they found my passport was out of date while i tried to leave the country :/ | |
| 09:41 | magnuse | ah, guess being outside schengen changes things, yeah |
| 09:41 | fun fun fun | |
| 09:41 | yay me - first signoff of the year (waaay too late, i know) | |
| 09:43 | drojf | there should be some kind of video conferencing at the hackfest anyway ^^ |
| 09:46 | ashimema | indeed |
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| 10:06 | magnuse | we should try and make it a week of intense qa work for everyone involved, not just the ones that can go to marseille, in my opinion |
| 10:06 | hiya irma | |
| 10:07 | irma | Bonjour/bonsoir magnuse :-) |
| 10:08 | magnuse Is Marseilles on your agenda this year? | |
| 10:08 | magnuse | irma: yes it is! |
| 10:08 | really starting to look forward to it now | |
| 10:08 | irma | Quelle chance! |
| 10:08 | magnuse your French must be improving too ... | |
| 10:08 | magnuse | lol |
| 10:09 | from 0.0 to 0.00001 | |
| 10:09 | irma | version control? ah ... version progress ...nice and steady, I see :-) |
| 10:09 | magnuse | yeah |
| 10:10 | i have survived | |
| 10:10 | irma | We were in Europe in December so can't make it back to the old continent in March $$ |
| 10:10 | magnuse | managed to buy food, groceries, pain au chocolate... |
| 10:10 | oh, and you didn't drop by me? :-( | |
| 10:10 | ;-) | |
| 10:11 | irma | :-( tried but hum ... missed the train heading north from Frankfurt |
| 10:12 | magnuse | oh noes :-) |
| 10:13 | drojf | don't know if it is an option for people in marseille but i have a webinar server that could use some testing. it's not capable of hosting a gazillion clients, but i suppose it would work for streaming talks to a few people in here that want to take part |
| 10:15 | ashimema | :) |
| 10:21 | Joubu | Cheeses cannot be tasted/smelt by streaming... |
| 10:22 | drojf | Joubu: i'm very thankful for that :D |
| 10:41 | magnuse | cheese! |
| 10:41 | wahanui | hmmm... cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter. |
| 10:48 | drojf | magnuse: you can have it all :) |
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| 10:50 | cait | hi #koha |
| 10:52 | magnuse | thanks drojf :-) |
| 10:52 | kia ora cait | |
| 10:54 | every time i say "kia ora" i am reminded of the roadtrip from bucklame to wellington - happy times! | |
| 10:54 | cait | yep :) |
| 10:55 | it was great | |
| 11:12 | cya #koha | |
| 11:26 | paul_p | for the 1st time it seems we will have someone from (north) africa at the "hackfest in Europe" |
| 11:28 | drojf | nice |
| 11:28 | paul_p | casablanca university, using Koha 3.16 |
| 11:45 | drojf | later #koha |
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| 12:25 | Joubu | kivilahtio: could you please have a look at bug 13540? |
| 12:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13540 critical, P2, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Failed QA , Item's permanent_location is set to CART|PROC if an Item is edited when it's location is CART|PROC. |
| 12:25 | kivilahtio | Joubu: ok |
| 12:26 | Joubu | khall: could you please have a look at bug 10382? |
| 12:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10382 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , collection not returning to null when removed from course reserves |
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| 12:53 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
| 12:54 | tcohen | hola magnuse |
| 12:54 | its carnival holiday here | |
| 12:54 | so, preparing for marseille :-D | |
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| 13:01 | magnuse | tcohen: sounds good! :-) |
| 13:01 | @wunder marseille | |
| 13:01 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 12.7°C (1:49 PM CET on February 16, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:02 | magnuse | bring warm clothes :-) |
| 13:02 | tcohen | brrrrrr |
| 13:03 | gotta run | |
| 13:03 | later #koha | |
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| 13:29 | vtk | i am trying to convert excel data into marc but for one title if multiple items are there those many bibliographic records are generated. What is required to attach all items in one bibliographic record while mapping data from excel in deliminted text wizard |
| 13:40 | magnuse | vtk: which tool are you using? marcedit? |
| 13:40 | the trick is that you need to have one 952-field per item | |
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| 13:44 | vtk | i wish to know in my excel sheet for the same title if i have more than one barcode where should that barcode be in my excel sheet |
| 13:45 | and it should be mapped how while using in delimited text wizard | |
| 13:53 | magnuse | vtk: what do you mean by "delimited text wizard"? |
| 13:54 | vtk | sorry delimited text converter |
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| 14:11 | magnuse | vtk: is that a thing in marcedit or something else? |
| 14:12 | vtk | yes in marcedit Delimited Text |
| 14:12 | where we can add source file as excel file | |
| 14:13 | and then map each column to marc tag and convert that excel data to marc file | |
| 14:17 | drojf | that is probably a question for something like a marcedit forum. i don't think people here use it much |
| 14:18 | vtk | oh ok |
| 14:18 | drojf | there seems to be a mailing list for marcedit marcedit.reeset.net/help |
| 14:19 | http://marcedit.reeset.net/help | |
| 14:20 | vtk | ok tx |
| 14:20 | also one more query i have abt publisher authority | |
| 14:21 | when i try to add publisher in authority in which tag nos in authority i should enter name of publisher, place and address of publisher | |
| 14:21 | drojf | getting something to eat, later #koha |
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| 14:35 | ashimema_ | question.. where does robots.txt live in packages? |
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| 15:02 | magnuse | ashimema_: /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/robots.txt |
| 15:02 | ashimema_ | I found it ;) |
| 15:02 | but thanks anyways :) | |
| 15:02 | magnuse | so did "locate robots.txt" :-) |
| 15:06 | * magnuse | prepares to go outside and get sushi |
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| 15:19 | cait | hi #koha |
| 15:22 | drojf | hi cait |
| 15:25 | cait | at the hotel now |
| 15:25 | i only got a little bit lost :) | |
| 15:26 | drojf | sounds good |
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| 15:45 | talljoy | good morning #koha |
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| 16:01 | cait | hi talljoy |
| 16:01 | talljoy | hiya cait! |
| 16:03 | reiveune | souebye |
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| 16:19 | chris_n | @wunder raliegh |
| 16:19 | huginn | chris_n: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 16:19 | chris_n | LOL |
| 16:19 | @wunder raleigh | |
| 16:19 | huginn | chris_n: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 16:19 | chris_n | wow |
| 16:19 | @wunder 28334 | |
| 16:19 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in C and L Farms, Dunn, North Carolina is -2.0°C (11:10 AM EST on February 16, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 4 PM this afternoon to noon EST Tuesday... |
| 16:20 | * chris_n | was beginning to wonder if his curren location was non-existent.... |
| 16:20 | cait | @wunder Berlin |
| 16:20 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 16:20 | cait | @wunder Berlin, Germany |
| 16:20 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (4:50 PM CET on February 16, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:20 | chris_n | @wunder raleigh, nc |
| 16:20 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in Five Points - The Circle, Raleigh, North Carolina is -4.3°C (11:19 AM EST on February 16, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: -23.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 4 PM this afternoon to 9 am EST Tuesday... |
| 16:20 | * chris_n | passes cait a cookie |
| 16:25 | cait | thx :) |
| 16:25 | can someone help me out? thought we were workingon a batch patron delete | |
| 16:26 | khall: batch deleting patrons form the gui... do you remember if we have a bug for this? thought there was one related to patron lists... but not sure now | |
| 16:31 | Joubu | cait: bug 10612 |
| 16:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10612 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add ability to delete patrons with batch patron deletion tool |
| 16:32 | Joubu | @later tell cait bug 10612 |
| 16:32 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:40 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 20:04 | tcohen | hi |
| 20:04 | wahanui | hello, tcohen |
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| 20:14 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 20:24 | magnuse | @later tell rangi did you get my patch for koha-kudos? |
| 20:24 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:25 | rangi | hmm did you do you do a merge request? |
| 20:26 | ill check in a second | |
| 20:28 | magnuse | rangi: i did a git-send-email to you bigballofwax email |
| 20:28 | but it's been a long time since i did that, so things might not be set up properly,,, | |
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| 20:30 | rangi | ahh ill check |
| 20:32 | nope not that i can see | |
| 20:36 | if you do a merge request in gitorious .. that should work .. if thats possible for you? | |
| 20:41 | magnuse | working on it now :-) |
| 20:42 | rangi: there | |
| 20:42 | rangi | yep that emailed me too |
| 20:46 | its quite easy to deal with too | |
| 20:46 | for this you just do | |
| 20:46 | git pull origin refs/merge-requests/1 | |
| 20:47 | and done | |
| 20:47 | http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ | |
| 20:47 | wahanui | http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise |
| 20:47 | rangi | hows that now? |
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| 20:48 | wizzyrea | wow look at that - fancy!~ |
| 20:48 | magnuse | rangi: deichmanske is better - libriotech is sadly missing (yet) ;-) |
| 20:49 | kia ora Viktor | |
| 20:49 | rangi | heh yeah it can't create patches for ya :-) |
| 20:49 | Viktor | kia ora magnuse |
| 20:49 | magnuse | hm, maybe i can do a patch for that ;-) |
| 20:50 | rangi | you hackfesters |
| 20:50 | should check this out | |
| 20:50 | http://dp.la/info/2015/02/11/d[…]ses-krikri-0-1-3/ | |
| 20:51 | actually oslo should check that out | |
| 20:52 | magnuse | Banca D'Italia - how cool is that! |
| 20:52 | rangi | its pretty cool eh |
| 20:52 | the reserve bank of nz run koha too | |
| 20:52 | thats 2 central banks that i know of | |
| 20:53 | magnuse | yay |
| 20:53 | rangi | im working on getting hannah from rbnz to sign off a patch |
| 20:53 | magnuse | they could just print us some money when the stuff from ebsco runs out ;-) |
| 20:54 | @later tell akafred seen http://dp.la/info/2015/02/11/d[…]ses-krikri-0-1-3/ ? | |
| 20:54 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:03 | * magnuse | is running out of battery - have fun #koha! |
| 21:05 | rangi | cya magnuse |
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| 21:20 | andreashm | hi #koha |
| 21:21 | rangi | hi andreashm |
| 21:22 | * cait | waves |
| 21:22 | Viktor | Hi andreashm |
| 21:23 | andreashm | reading up on the irc log from today. interesting stuff about ES. |
| 21:26 | rangi | you can test it now if you want :) |
| 21:26 | andreashm | oh, cool |
| 21:28 | eythian | hi |
| 21:28 | andreashm | rangi: how, where? |
| 21:29 | rangi | do you have a dev install up and running? you can apply the patches on bug 12478, joubu has written some notes on there too |
| 21:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Elasticsearch support for Koha |
| 21:30 | eythian | the patches are a bit out of date, better is to use the Catalyst repo |
| 21:31 | andreashm | sorry, our dev isn't up yet (I think). |
| 21:31 | guess I'll have to wait for the hackfest | |
| 21:33 | cait | alater tell Joubu thx! |
| 21:33 | @later tell Joubu - thx! | |
| 21:33 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 22:33 | dcook | eythian: What's the intensive part of using ElasticSearch? |
| 22:33 | Perl dependencies? | |
| 22:33 | * dcook | is pondering how it might work in a non-Debian based system |
| 22:33 | eythian | what do you mean by intensive? |
| 22:33 | dcook | Good question |
| 22:33 | You mentioned how you couldn't really install it on any current stable systems, yeah? | |
| 22:33 | That it would only work on Jessie and maybe a newer Ubuntu? | |
| 22:33 | Well, not ES, but the Catmandu stuff | |
| 22:34 | eythian | oh yeah |
| 22:34 | the dependencies are complicated and it's dealing with quite new libraries. | |
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| 22:34 | eythian | I did get it going on the non-LTS current ubuntu |
| 22:34 | but, jessie will be a lot easier in general | |
| 22:35 | dcook | Might be good incentive to move over to Debian, I suppose.. |
| 22:36 | eythian | yeah. You could probably get them all with cpan without too much difficulty, but I prefer having OS packages. |
| 22:36 | dcook | Yeah, I like OS packages too |
| 22:37 | There was something I had to package the other day... | |
| 22:37 | Oh, it was for a local customization | |
| 22:38 | I suppose I could've used CPAN for that, but... I figure there's more control packaging it yourself as well | |
| 22:38 | Or if a new version does come up in the Debian repo.. | |
| 22:38 | Or could upstream it, or... | |
| 22:39 | chrisvella joined #koha | |
| 22:40 | eythian | I think I lost track of what you were saying half way through :) |
| 22:43 | dcook | I certainly would have |
| 22:43 | Maybe I did | |
| 22:43 | It's warm in here | |
| 22:44 | cait | is your brain still broiled? |
| 22:44 | sorry, read back in the logs erarlier :) | |
| 22:44 | dcook | I think so! |
| 22:44 | cait | ineresting cooking discussion :) |
| 22:44 | dcook | You must be reading a lot of logs! |
| 22:44 | cait | mine is frozen |
| 22:44 | or what do you call what happens to frozen food? | |
| 22:45 | nah, not regularly | |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea: around? | |
| 22:50 | eythian | cait: I think she's lunching |
| 22:51 | dcook | I am so confused |
| 22:51 | Oh, your brain | |
| 22:51 | I thought you meant your logs were frozen | |
| 22:51 | Yes, my brain must be broiled... or boiled... or baked... | |
| 22:52 | * dcook | just had breakfast and is so ready for lunch now |
| 22:52 | cait | eythian: ah too bad |
| 22:53 | someone else can explain the difference between holds to pull and holds queue for a single banch library? | |
| 22:53 | hm i think i see it | |
| 22:54 | or no, still confused:) | |
| 23:00 | hm and the paging on the holds to pull one is broken | |
| 23:00 | * cait | will file a bug later |
| 23:02 | eythian | I think it's always been confusing. |
| 23:02 | It really needs some clarification, better naming, whatever. | |
| 23:03 | cait | some style work too |
| 23:04 | eythian | well, probably a redesign so that they have the same UI but more clarity about the difference between them, or something along those lines. |
| 23:11 | dcook | Holds to pull is for materials that need to be pulled and held aside for patrons |
| 23:11 | Holds queue... | |
| 23:11 | wahanui | i think holds queue is to do with that table |
| 23:11 | dcook | No idea |
| 23:12 | It might list all holds? | |
| 23:12 | Even ones that aren't ready to pull? | |
| 23:13 | I suppose a minute or two and I might be able to tell you.. | |
| 23:13 | Hmm, I'm definitely wrong about that | |
| 23:14 | "Holds queue: This report will show you all of the holds at your library." | |
| 23:14 | :S | |
| 23:19 | cait: holds queue shows what's in `tmp_holdsqueue` | |
| 23:19 | Which depends on C4::HoldsQueue::CreateQueue | |
| 23:19 | Which... | |
| 23:19 | wahanui | it has been said that which is why it is strange that it BROKE... after upgrading like that. |
| 23:20 | dcook | Seems like a rather convoluted process |
| 23:21 | cait | heh |
| 23:21 | i am wondering if there is a main difference if you are a single branch... | |
| 23:22 | i think the built one is more if there are multiple items that could fill the hold in multiple branches? | |
| 23:22 | helping to pick the library that has to? | |
| 23:26 | dcook | Mmm |
| 23:28 | There may be no purpose for a single branch? | |
| 23:30 | I'm looking at a multibranch library.. | |
| 23:30 | Hmm, it seems right according to Koha, but it looks weird.. | |
| 23:31 | Dunno, other things to do, alas | |
| 23:38 | cait | thx :) |
| 23:38 | time here to sleep n- night all | |
| 23:50 | wizzyrea | gah, cait are you still here? |
| 23:50 | cuz I'm back now >.< | |
| 23:50 | the holds queue assigns an item to a reserve | |
| 23:51 | I just wrote an explanation of this not long ago, let me see if I can find it | |
| 23:52 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "holds to pull vs. reserve queue" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/433 |
| 23:53 | eythian | see, they really need to be combined into one sane interface |
| 23:54 | wizzyrea | yeah, they do. Reserves queue does some fancy-ish mapping of items to reserves |
| 23:54 | it can do stuff like weighting near branches higher, deals with local hold item types | |
| 23:54 | holds to pull just vomits out everything and expects the human to deal with it | |
| 23:55 | for a single branch, the reserve queue doesn't make a lot of sense | |
| 23:55 | except that it is much more succinct than holds to pull. |
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