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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | jcamins | eythian: do we like Rabobank? |
| 00:00 | Never mind. | |
| 00:00 | wahanui | Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. |
| 00:01 | jcamins | There is a Rabobank branch in New York, but they don't offer service in the US outside of California. |
| 00:01 | They also apparently only do agriculture. | |
| 00:02 | rangi | jcamins: they are a bank .. it's pretty hard to like banks |
| 00:03 | jcamins | rangi: yeah, I know. I have yet to meet one that I like. Which is why I was so excited by the thought that eythian had found one he liked. |
| 00:03 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:04 | eythian | I've never used them, except getting spam claiming to be from them. |
| 00:04 | jcamins | eythian: oh. |
| 00:12 | dcook | I wonder what a Rabobank scanner would be.. |
| 00:12 | Maybe they meant your Rabobank scammer | |
| 00:12 | They've been found and are now ready for use | |
| 00:14 | jcamins | dcook: for checks. |
| 00:15 | eythian | nobody uses checks |
| 00:15 | or even calls them that | |
| 00:16 | * dcook | can't remember the last time he used a cheque |
| 00:16 | dcook | I wanted to make a joke about checks and balances... |
| 00:16 | But I think I was thinking of scales.. | |
| 00:16 | rangi | i dont think ive owned a chequebook in at least 10 years |
| 00:16 | dcook | yeah, it must be around the 10 year mark |
| 00:17 | I think I needed some maybe 8-9 years ago for a very specific purpose.. | |
| 00:17 | Oh, rent | |
| 00:17 | rangi | i wonder what other countries still use them, i know the US still uses them quite a bit |
| 00:17 | dcook | I used cheques to pay rent in... 2007-2009, I think |
| 00:17 | No, 2007-2010. Wow.. | |
| 00:17 | I think Canada still allows them but they're pretty uncommon | |
| 00:17 | rangi | they are still allowed here |
| 00:18 | dcook | I got a cheque from the ATO when I gave them the wrong bank details :p |
| 00:18 | jcamins | rangi: we use them a lot, that's for sure. |
| 00:18 | rangi | i think last one was a bank cheque, for the house deposit |
| 00:18 | eythian | I used to pay my power bill with one, in about 2000, as I didn't have reliable internet at my flat |
| 00:19 | rangi | that would have been hmm 2004 ish |
| 00:19 | i have a bank of america chequebook somewhere | |
| 00:19 | they give accounts to everybody | |
| 00:19 | i just walked into a branch in california, and got a bank account | |
| 00:20 | eythian | ...and a rifle? :) |
| 00:20 | rangi | probably why they needed to be bailed out |
| 00:20 | heh, thats only in colorado | |
| 00:20 | i forget what bank that was, and knowing michael moore was a set up anyway. he makes good points, but then ruins them by making shit up also | |
| 00:21 | jcamins | rangi: you'd think that taking everyone's money would have reduced the need for bailing the banks out. |
| 00:21 | rangi | you'd think :) |
| 00:21 | they did give me an overdraft too | |
| 00:21 | dcook | rangi: " he makes good points, but then ruins them by making shit up also" so much that |
| 00:22 | I think it was "Sicko" that sickened me the most... | |
| 00:22 | jcamins | rangi: I feel like as a USian I should've been offered overdraft when setting up an account in 2004. |
| 00:22 | dcook | Lots of made up shit |
| 00:22 | Lots of true stuff too of course.. | |
| 00:23 | jcamins | I mean, if any dude with a nice accent can walk into a bank and get an overdraft, doesn't my seemingly-Canadian accent count? |
| 00:23 | rangi | jcamins: i thought they were giving away mortgages still at that point |
| 00:23 | jcamins | They were. I probably could've gotten a mortgage had I asked. |
| 00:23 | rangi | here you have a 1% deposit .. and no way of paying it back, have a 200k mortgag |
| 00:23 | e | |
| 00:23 | yeah | |
| 00:24 | jcamins | Not that I would have used overdraft, but I've always wondered why everyone treats it as commonplace, when I've never been given the option of getting it. |
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| 00:47 | dcook | Man... a 200k mortgage... that'd be all right.. |
| 00:47 | * dcook | figures he'll end his life in a cardboard box |
| 00:47 | dcook | Wait, that came out wrong |
| 00:49 | eythian | heh |
| 00:51 | rangi | there are still lots of places you can get a big house for 200k in nz . .. just no one wants to live there |
| 00:52 | http://www.realestate.co.nz/2471894 <-- my grandparents old house | |
| 00:53 | jcamins | rangi: there are lots of places in the US you can get a big house for less than half that. |
| 00:53 | Not near me, though. | |
| 00:54 | rangi | yeah you can buy all of detroit for like 20 cents or something |
| 00:54 | jcamins | lol |
| 00:55 | dcook | I thought detroit was on the upswing these days |
| 00:55 | rangi | ok 40cents then |
| 00:55 | * dcook | recalls when a fellow library worker was planning to buy a house for 20 cents |
| 00:55 | jcamins | True, but there are even places where you can have a green lawn instead of a gray one. |
| 00:55 | dcook | rangi: So why don't people want to live in your grandparent's old house? |
| 00:56 | grandparents'* | |
| 00:56 | rangi | its in whanganui |
| 00:56 | dcook | I don't know where that is, but I suppose somewhere less desirable |
| 00:56 | For some reason I read "nz" as "wellington" | |
| 00:56 | jcamins | Oh, yeah, whanagnui. Too much sun and not enough snow. |
| 00:56 | rangi | it;s fine, but there arent many jobs there |
| 00:57 | dcook | Yeah, that's the thing :/ |
| 00:57 | I wouldn't mind living in heaps of places probably... so long as there was work I wanted there | |
| 00:57 | rangi | i lived there from age 8 to 17 |
| 00:57 | good place for kids | |
| 00:57 | dcook | I mean... I originally come from a village of 200 people. |
| 00:57 | Yeah? | |
| 00:57 | rangi | but no university |
| 00:57 | dcook | Admittedly, I was glad when I left my 500 person town at 18.. |
| 00:57 | rangi | the council in the 50s voted against it |
| 00:57 | and it went to palmerston north instead | |
| 00:58 | dcook | Voted against a university? Weird.. |
| 00:58 | rangi | which is 1.5 hours car ride away |
| 00:58 | yeah, people are mental | |
| 00:58 | jcamins | Isn't Palmerston North a Koha library? |
| 00:58 | dcook | :/ |
| 00:58 | My parents live 30 minutes from the university I graduated from... and I figured that was too far :p | |
| 00:58 | rangi | there's a theosophical society in palmy that is |
| 00:58 | dcook | I also didn't want to live with my parents, because I was silly |
| 00:58 | jcamins | That must be what I was thinking of. |
| 00:58 | rangi | but not the public or uni |
| 00:59 | maybe the polytech there soon tho | |
| 00:59 | (college in us speak) | |
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| 01:35 | * eythian | steals content from dcook's email to make this bug report. |
| 01:38 | dcook | \o/ |
| 01:38 | I think that should probably be enough info | |
| 01:38 | eythian | yeah |
| 01:38 | dcook | Sort of a big deal when it comes to ICU |
| 01:38 | Which I imagine must be used a fair bit... | |
| 01:38 | * eythian | wonders if the severity should be 'important' or 'normal' |
| 01:39 | * dcook | wonders that too |
| 01:39 | eythian | Probably can't really justify important: "a bug which has a major effect on the usability of a package, without rendering it completely unusable to everyone." |
| 01:39 | vs: "a bug that does not undermine the usability of the whole package; for example, a problem with a particular option or menu item." | |
| 01:40 | dcook | Mmm |
| 01:40 | Totally the latter | |
| 01:40 | eythian | I think it's realistically more the latter |
| 01:41 | dcook | When is Jessie being released? |
| 01:41 | I'm never sure :S | |
| 01:41 | or rather, I'm never sure of its status | |
| 01:43 | eythian | when it's ready |
| 01:43 | I don't think there's a date set, just when they get all the release critical bugs out | |
| 01:44 | dcook | Mmm |
| 01:46 | Yikes, looks like they have a few to do... | |
| 01:46 | eythian | RC1 is out now, and the flow of updates is slowing down |
| 01:46 | dcook | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=776910 |
| 01:46 | eythian | https://release.debian.org/jes[…]reeze_policy.html <-- yeah, an update to zebra so isn't getting in |
| 01:48 | dcook | Yeah, I was just reading through bits of that |
| 01:49 | So might that mean using the Indexdata apt repository? Or referring people to it if they're using ICU and Jessie/Vivid? | |
| 01:50 | * dcook | figures he's probably in the wrong timezone for OpenSuse folks.. |
| 01:50 | eythian | it might, yeah |
| 01:50 | dcook | I'm curious about the facet problems that people are encountering too |
| 01:50 | Actually, I might take a look at that right now as I have a system with 2.0.59.. | |
| 01:51 | eythian | I'd need to have a whole new section of the repo to handle zebra, and I really, really don't want to do that. |
| 01:51 | dcook | Yeah, I imagine that wouldn't be too fun |
| 01:52 | I"m having no problem with facets on 2.0.59... | |
| 01:53 | Now when was I talking about that with cait.. | |
| 01:54 | eythian | IRC should be logged into elasticsearch to make searching easier. |
| 01:54 | dcook | :D |
| 01:54 | Does it even have a search function now? | |
| 01:54 | eythian | what? |
| 01:54 | dcook | Huh.. looks like |
| 01:54 | eythian | oh |
| 01:54 | yeah can google it | |
| 01:54 | * dcook | always just googles for it |
| 01:57 | eythian | damnit, that bug didn't send because exim wasn't configured on my dev vm |
| 01:57 | oh, but the bounce has the content, so that's OK | |
| 01:58 | dcook | :D |
| 02:09 | chrisvella joined #koha | |
| 02:27 | eythian | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=777515 <-- dcook |
| 02:29 | dcook | Cool beans |
| 02:29 | eythian++ | |
| 02:29 | You're a champion | |
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| 02:38 | wizzyrea | someone needs to make a gandalf meme about debian |
| 02:38 | "Debian is never late or early. Debian arrives precisely when it means to." | |
| 02:39 | dcook | lol |
| 02:39 | debian? | |
| 02:39 | wahanui | well, debian is what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that |
| 02:39 | dcook | debian? |
| 02:39 | wahanui | rumour has it debian is what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that |
| 02:39 | dcook | debian is also Debian is never late or early. Debian arrives precisely when it means to. |
| 02:39 | wahanui | okay, dcook. |
| 02:39 | dcook | debian ? |
| 02:39 | wahanui | hmmm... debian is what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that |
| 02:39 | dcook | debian ? |
| 02:39 | wahanui | i guess debian is Debian is never late or early. Debian arrives precisely when it means to. |
| 02:39 | dcook | Damn.. |
| 02:40 | should've saw that coming | |
| 02:40 | eythian: Any ideas on how to make wahanui selectively forget things? | |
| 02:40 | wizzyrea | http://memegenerator.net/instance/58966371 |
| 02:40 | eythian | dcook: why? that's half the fun :) |
| 02:40 | dcook | hehe, wizzyrea |
| 02:41 | eythian | wizzyrea: that's the wrong gandalf |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | true. |
| 02:41 | it should be a grey one. | |
| 02:41 | but I didn't want confused gandalf. | |
| 02:41 | or maybe that's more apt. | |
| 02:42 | http://memegenerator.net/instance/58966432 | |
| 02:42 | I suppose there are people who run debian on apple hardware. | |
| 02:42 | dcook | Also good :) |
| 02:43 | Heaps probably | |
| 02:43 | wizzyrea | let's just pretend, for fun, that gandalf, if he were a real wizard, that he'd do that. |
| 02:43 | dcook | It seems like so many photos I see of people programming are of people on Apple laptops |
| 02:43 | wizzyrea | no manky old osx for gandalf no sir-ee |
| 02:43 | dcook | What do you mean "real" wizard? |
| 02:44 | wizzyrea | oh right gandalf is real. |
| 02:44 | dcook | I'm sure he's around somewhere |
| 02:44 | Probably chilling out with a pipe | |
| 02:44 | wizzyrea | pretty sure I saw him out in miramar once. |
| 02:45 | dcook | I figure having a huge white/grey beard must be the ultimate disguise |
| 02:45 | I mean... cartoon characters have been proving this for years | |
| 02:45 | But really | |
| 02:45 | They all look the same | |
| 02:45 | * dcook | is looking forward to white/grey hair |
| 02:46 | * wizzyrea | is not |
| 02:46 | wizzyrea | but then again, I don't have the genes for grey hair. |
| 02:46 | dcook | Genes for grey hair? |
| 02:47 | Actually, I don't know what colour hair I currently have | |
| 02:47 | Sometimes it looks dark blond, or grey, or brown | |
| 02:47 | * eythian | recommends a mirror occasionaly |
| 02:47 | dcook | Flecks of red or white from time to time |
| 02:47 | eythian: Oh, I look in the mirror, but it depends on the light :S | |
| 02:47 | eythian | just so you don't get surprised if you see yourself on a window or something, |
| 02:48 | *in | |
| 02:49 | wizzyrea | https://thenewsconduit.files.w[…]1/02_rtr1wcmp.jpg |
| 02:53 | dcook | eythian: Well, I think I know how I look mostly overall. |
| 02:53 | wizzyrea: That was life back in Canada | |
| 02:53 | wizzyrea | except your lips were actually stuck to the glass. |
| 02:53 | dcook | Only if the heating is turned off |
| 02:54 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 02:54 | dcook | I've never actually stuck anything to anything frozen |
| 02:54 | I could feel skin starting to adhere, and went "nope, nope, nope" | |
| 02:54 | Honestly, who thinks telling someone "Don't lick that cold piece of metal" is actually going to stop them? | |
| 02:54 | * dcook | was just more cautious than the other stupid kids :p |
| 02:55 | dcook | Well, not stupid... |
| 02:57 | eythian | heh yeah |
| 02:58 | but I know nothing about internal party politics there. | |
| 03:08 | dcook: regarding that autotruncation thing from last week: | |
| 03:08 | > we can't identify any instances where auto-truncate was actually doing anything - even disabled, searches still resolve correctly. Are there actually situations where auto-truncate will return results that queryfuzzy would not? | |
| 03:08 | > (for example, we expected a search term like 'tra', which matches no items in our catalogue, would only return results with auto-truncate on, but with that disabled we're still getting truncated results.) | |
| 03:09 | which is correct, 'tra' returns things about training etc. | |
| 03:09 | any ideas? | |
| 03:09 | wahanui | any ideas are welcome :) |
| 03:11 | dcook | Hmm |
| 03:12 | I don't think fuzzy would impact that | |
| 03:13 | eythian | nevertheless, it seems that zebra is doing something truncaty on its own perhaps\ |
| 03:13 | dcook | Well...that gives me an idea |
| 03:13 | Just give me a sec | |
| 03:14 | I don't know why I never thought of that before.. | |
| 03:14 | eythian | telling zebra to do right truncation itself? |
| 03:14 | dcook | Hmm? |
| 03:14 | I have a tip for you if you're able to use yaz-client | |
| 03:14 | In this situation | |
| 03:14 | "format xml" | |
| 03:14 | "elements zebra::snippet" | |
| 03:15 | It'll show you the index/indexed value used to determine the hit :) | |
| 03:15 | So I did a search for "e" | |
| 03:15 | And here is my first result: | |
| 03:15 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "zebra::snippet" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/404 |
| 03:16 | eythian | where is your actual search in that? |
| 03:16 | dcook | find e |
| 03:16 | It was above the cut, sorry | |
| 03:16 | eythian | ah k |
| 03:16 | Search was a bloomin' failure. | |
| 03:16 | [109] Database unavailable -- v2 addinfo 'Default' | |
| 03:16 | oh | |
| 03:16 | hmm | |
| 03:17 | dcook | "base biblios" |
| 03:17 | eythian | yaz-client talks on the socket, right? |
| 03:17 | oh | |
| 03:17 | dcook | Sorry, I should've done from start to finish on this one |
| 03:17 | eythian | that's better |
| 03:17 | dcook | You might still get an error if your zebra conf isn't set up right |
| 03:17 | eythian | [25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo 'zebra::snippet' |
| 03:17 | dcook | But it sounds like it was all right? |
| 03:17 | Ah, k | |
| 03:17 | I can help with that too :) | |
| 03:18 | You're using DOM? | |
| 03:18 | eythian | uhm |
| 03:18 | I think so | |
| 03:18 | dcook | Can you show me your contents of "retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml"? |
| 03:19 | pastebot | "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "./zebradb/retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/405 |
| 03:19 | dcook | Cool, that's what I thought. |
| 03:19 | I'll paste the changed version | |
| 03:20 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "zebra conf for zebra::*" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/406 |
| 03:20 | dcook | I think newer versions of Koha have that |
| 03:20 | eythian | just that xml line? |
| 03:20 | dcook | Yep |
| 03:21 | In git, we have "<retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::*"/>" as well, but it's unnecessary | |
| 03:21 | Once you add that, restart Zebra, and then try the search again | |
| 03:21 | And it should work | |
| 03:21 | Just make sure you add that line where I put it | |
| 03:21 | If you put it lower than the other "xml" elements, it won't work right | |
| 03:21 | The nameless element has to be before named ones | |
| 03:22 | (I can't remember how much experimenting that took to learn... way too much :P) | |
| 03:22 | eythian | Diagnostic message(s) from database: |
| 03:22 | [25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo 'zebra::snippet' | |
| 03:22 | dcook | And you've restarted the zebra server? |
| 03:23 | eythian | yeah |
| 03:23 | dcook | Well, exited out of yaz-client, restarted the zebra server, and gone back into yaz-client? |
| 03:23 | and you did "format xml"? | |
| 03:23 | eythian | yep |
| 03:23 | dcook | That's quite odd then |
| 03:24 | eythian | your paste 406 doesn't have the zebra:: bits |
| 03:24 | dcook | Yeah, it shouldn't need them |
| 03:24 | You can try that though | |
| 03:24 | eythian | where do they go? |
| 03:24 | and what do they look like? | |
| 03:25 | dcook | <retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::*"/> |
| 03:25 | As the last element after <retrieval syntax="xml" name="marcxml" | |
| 03:25 | identifier="info:srw/schema/1/marcxml-v1.1"/> | |
| 03:25 | eythian | k |
| 03:25 | dcook | Hmm, maybe you do need that bit after all.. |
| 03:25 | eythian | yeah |
| 03:26 | that did something | |
| 03:26 | dcook | Weird, I would've sworn it didn't. Oh well. That's cool :). Lesson learned :D |
| 03:26 | Is that helping? | |
| 03:27 | eythian | well, I don't know what I'm looking for |
| 03:27 | dcook | When I try "tra" I'm getting callnumbers that match |
| 03:27 | eythian | I just get the record |
| 03:27 | dcook | Can you paste in the result of "list_all"? |
| 03:27 | pastebot | "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "list_all" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/407 |
| 03:28 | dcook | Ah, you need to set your elements |
| 03:28 | Those haven't been set yet | |
| 03:28 | eythian | oh |
| 03:28 | yeah, I realised that just after I pasted that :) | |
| 03:28 | dcook | :) |
| 03:28 | eythian | [25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo 'zebra::snippet' |
| 03:28 | :/ | |
| 03:28 | dcook | :/ |
| 03:29 | Ahh, I wonder if you are using DOM... | |
| 03:29 | Can you check your koha-conf.xml? | |
| 03:29 | That would explain that one | |
| 03:29 | eythian | <config>/etc/koha/sites/msd/zebra-biblios-dom.cfg</config> |
| 03:30 | dcook | Can y ou look a few elements lower from that one? |
| 03:30 | Is there a "<xi:include>"? | |
| 03:30 | eythian | <xi:include href="/etc/koha/marc21-retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml" |
| 03:30 | dcook | Hmm, ahh |
| 03:30 | That would be the file to use | |
| 03:30 | I had you editing the wrong one | |
| 03:30 | eythian | oh |
| 03:30 | dcook | Mine is "/home/dcook/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml" |
| 03:31 | Yours is gitified, I guess? | |
| 03:31 | eythian | no, package |
| 03:31 | dcook | Ah, that would do it |
| 03:31 | Well, if you change that file to include those <retrieval> elements from before | |
| 03:31 | Then restart zebra, then go back into yaz-client, haha | |
| 03:31 | Then it should work :) | |
| 03:31 | eythian | cool :) |
| 03:31 | dcook | :D |
| 03:33 | eythian | ok, that works |
| 03:33 | hah | |
| 03:33 | the results are actually from the call numbers | |
| 03:34 | dcook | Thought that might be it :) |
| 03:35 | I just learned about "zebra::snippet" last week actually, but it looks pretty handy | |
| 03:36 | Yay! | |
| 03:36 | * dcook | likes being helpful |
| 03:36 | * eythian | puts this in the wiki |
| 03:36 | dcook | Excellent idea |
| 03:37 | Share the link? | |
| 03:37 | eythian | no, I'm going to put it in the wiki and then keep it private! |
| 03:37 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:37 | "They'll never find it! Muahahah!" | |
| 03:38 | I should probably share more about Zebra... | |
| 03:39 | The problem with learning things and not writing them down... you don't remember what you've learned in an easy to explain way | |
| 03:39 | It's just part of this amorphous knowledge cluster in your brain.. | |
| 03:41 | In other news: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pr[…]50209-138wvk.html | |
| 03:41 | Can't say that this surprises me. | |
| 03:42 | Although for $12... I know where I need to go to eat next... | |
| 03:49 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eturn_that_result <-- dcook |
| 03:52 | dcook | Cheers :) |
| 03:53 | eythian | this seems to be my personal "oh, that's a useful thing to know" page |
| 03:53 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:54 | Well, when it comes to Zebra, I don't know how best to go about it | |
| 03:54 | Because it's a pretty big topic | |
| 03:54 | I've thought about making a page to point to all the zebra pages... or maybe a category or something | |
| 03:54 | eythian | yeah, that's why I figure a cookbook thing is the most useful |
| 03:54 | dcook | cookbook thing? |
| 03:55 | eythian | it's a style of book for programming things |
| 03:55 | here's a problem -> here's an example solution | |
| 03:56 | dcook | Ahh, I getcha |
| 03:56 | I thought you meant in terms of organizing all the different info about Zebra | |
| 03:56 | Yeah, I like problem -> solution things | |
| 03:59 | Hmm, seems like we do have a Zebra category.. | |
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| 04:00 | dcook | Not sure how anyone would ever find it though.. |
| 04:01 | eythian | OK, another question. Koha returns results for 'trau' but yaz-client doesn't |
| 04:02 | dcook | Ah, now that is an interesting one |
| 04:02 | At this point, I'd need you to do a "warn" either after buildQuery or before getRecords (or whatever it's called) | |
| 04:02 | Just to see what sort of PQF it's creating | |
| 04:03 | By default, yaz-client is doing a "kw,wrdl" search | |
| 04:03 | eythian | in opac-search? |
| 04:03 | dcook | But Koha adds heaps of other stuff in |
| 04:03 | yeah, that would probably be the best place to do it | |
| 04:04 | Yeah, just before "getRecords" in opac-search | |
| 04:04 | eythian | opac-search.pl: (rk=(Title-cover,ext,r1="trau" or ti,ext,r2="trau" or Title-cover,phr,r3="trau" or wrdl,fuzzy,r8="trau" or wrdl,right-Truncation,r9="trau? " or wrdl,r9="trau")) not (rk=( ccode,ext,r1="MSDHIST" or ccode,phr,r3="MSDHIST" or ccode,wrdl,r6="MSDHIST" or ccode,wrdl,fuzzy,r8="MSDHIST" or ccode,wrdl,rt,r9="msdhist? ")) |
| 04:04 | oh | |
| 04:04 | it's truncating anyway | |
| 04:05 | ahh | |
| 04:05 | stemming is on | |
| 04:05 | maybe that's it? | |
| 04:05 | dcook | Interesting... I thought that right-Truncation thing wasn't released het |
| 04:05 | Hmm, my bad | |
| 04:06 | eythian | opac-search.pl: (rk=(Title-cover,ext,r1="trau" or ti,ext,r2="trau" or Title-cover,phr,r3="trau" or wrdl,fuzzy,r8="trau" or wrdl,r9="trau")) not (rk=( ccode,ext,r1="MSDHIST" or ccode,phr,r3="MSDHIST" or ccode,wrdl,r6="MSDHIST" or ccode,wrdl,fuzzy,r8="MSDHIST")) |
| 04:06 | that's with stemming off | |
| 04:06 | dcook | I guess that's been there a while |
| 04:06 | $weighted_query .= " or wrdl,right-Truncation,r9=\"$stemmed_operand\"" | |
| 04:06 | or rather | |
| 04:06 | $weighted_query .= " or wrdl,right-Truncation,r9=\"$stemmed_operand\"" | |
| 04:06 | if ( $stemming and $stemmed_operand ) | |
| 04:06 | I suppose I should've sent you this way first :p | |
| 04:06 | eythian | heh |
| 04:06 | dcook | C4::Search::_build_weighted_query() |
| 04:07 | But you got to learn more about yaz-client along the way :D | |
| 04:07 | eythian | yeah :) |
| 04:07 | * dcook | really wants to re-write _build_weighted_query... or rather buildQuery |
| 04:07 | dcook | I also really should eat something.. |
| 04:07 | eythian | so what's the meaning of '?' to zebra under right-truncation? |
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| 04:10 | dcook | It's the truncation operator |
| 04:10 | eythian | oh, I presumed it was * |
| 04:10 | dcook | Nah, that's something we've done I think |
| 04:10 | eythian | oh right |
| 04:10 | dcook | It's a bit weird to be honest |
| 04:10 | Let's see.. | |
| 04:10 | eythian | yep |
| 04:11 | dcook | "@truncation ? *" in ccl.properties |
| 04:11 | eythian | ah k |
| 04:12 | dcook | Hmm |
| 04:12 | eythian | I expected stemming to be working with language guides, so it could correctly conjugate. |
| 04:12 | dcook | Ah right. In theory we could use regex in truncation where ? and * would have different meanings, but we don't |
| 04:12 | eythian | that's how it's supposed to work in general |
| 04:13 | dcook | Hmm? |
| 04:13 | eythian | ah yeah |
| 04:13 | stemming | |
| 04:13 | wahanui | i heard stemming was off, however |
| 04:13 | dcook | Makes sense |
| 04:13 | Something not working with stemming? | |
| 04:13 | eythian | it's just that doing word* is not stemming |
| 04:13 | dcook | Or you mean how we've implemented it? |
| 04:13 | eythian | that's just right truncation |
| 04:13 | dcook | Ah, the stemming happens earlier |
| 04:14 | C4::Search::_build_stemmed_operand | |
| 04:14 | eythian | taking "stem" and producing "stems", "stemming", "stemmed" is how it's supposed to work |
| 04:14 | dcook | It uses Lingua::Stem::Snowball |
| 04:14 | eythian | oh right |
| 04:14 | then why is it just doing right truncation here? | |
| 04:14 | dcook | I have wondered that before |
| 04:14 | * dcook | wonders again |
| 04:15 | dcook | Yeah, now that I'm looking again... I suppose it depends on how Lingua::Stem::Snowball is working |
| 04:15 | eythian | one hypothesis is that if it's not a phrase recognised by snowball, it just truncates |
| 04:16 | (that's speculation, not looking at code) | |
| 04:18 | ahh | |
| 04:19 | dcook | Ooh. I like ahhs |
| 04:19 | eythian | snowball chops off things like 'ing' |
| 04:19 | and then we replace it with ? | |
| 04:19 | dcook | Yeah, it would get you the stem |
| 04:19 | eythian | makes sense |
| 04:19 | dcook | I was going to say that before the phone rang |
| 04:19 | eythian | heh |
| 04:19 | * dcook | shakes his head |
| 04:19 | dcook | Yeah, getting the stem from conjugated words. |
| 04:20 | And it should be able to handle a lot of different languages if it uses locale correctly | |
| 04:20 | eythian | it pulls from the MARC language perhaps |
| 04:20 | no | |
| 04:20 | that can't be right | |
| 04:20 | it must pull from your language settings | |
| 04:24 | it seems limited | |
| 04:25 | dcook | my $lang = C4::Templates::getlanguage($cgi, 'opac'); |
| 04:25 | eythian | for example, dutch prefixes with ge- where we'd append -ed, but that won't be handled I expect. |
| 04:25 | dcook | That's very interesting |
| 04:25 | You mean the stemmer is limited or our implementation? | |
| 04:26 | eythian | we just append ? |
| 04:26 | dcook | Or both? |
| 04:26 | wahanui | both is best :) |
| 04:26 | eythian | I don't know what the stemmer would do |
| 04:27 | dcook | Apparently there's a stemmer for it |
| 04:27 | http://search.cpan.org/~creamy[…]/Snowball.pm#stem | |
| 04:27 | or rather: | |
| 04:27 | http://search.cpan.org/~creamy[…]pported_Languages | |
| 04:30 | I'm bad at this eating on time thing.. | |
| 05:03 | And now it's so late I may as well just have an early dinner.. | |
| 05:04 | eythian | heh |
| 05:04 | dcook | I recalled that I had a bag of peanuts to make do until then |
| 05:04 | Apparently we're having epic burgers tonight | |
| 05:04 | My friend and I. Not my vegan wife and I :p | |
| 05:04 | Although... Lord of the Fries does do some amazing vegan burgers | |
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| 05:07 | dcook | eythian: you'll love this: |
| 05:07 | "In e-mails reproduced in the ITO, Mr. Livingston and his subordinates discussed how to “double delete” e-mails – erasing them from both the inbox and the server – so that they cannot later be retrieved." | |
| 05:07 | eythian | haha |
| 05:08 | dcook | It would only be better if they'd written "In e-mails retrieved in the ITO..." |
| 05:08 | eythian | good old fundamental misunderstandings of how things work |
| 05:08 | dcook | Yeppers |
| 05:09 | That reminds me of a book at home I really need to remember to read | |
| 05:09 | Something something about how to use electronic records as evidence in court | |
| 05:10 | eythian | it'd be interesting |
| 05:10 | dcook | I think so. |
| 05:10 | Actually, I really enjoyed the start of Wool | |
| 05:10 | It talks about a character finding "double deleted" data ;) | |
| 05:11 | eythian | yeah, good series that |
| 05:11 | dcook | Still working on the sequel atm |
| 05:12 | Breezed through the first one, although that was probably thanks to the holidays | |
| 05:12 | eythian | yeah, good holiday read |
| 05:13 | dcook | Twas a very unexpected gift from a friend |
| 05:13 | Making it double good :) | |
| 05:14 | eythian | indeed. I bought it for myself lateish last year |
| 05:15 | dcook | How did you hear about it? |
| 05:15 | After I'm finished with it, I'm going to have a bit of a reading vacuum | |
| 05:15 | I'm part way through American Gods, but it's a bit tedious to me | |
| 05:15 | which is odd as I often like Neil Gaiman's writing | |
| 05:16 | (I didn't know that adding a newline to die would remove the "at in file blah.pl line 123" bit... that's great to know..) | |
| 05:20 | eythian | a friend of mine recommended it |
| 05:20 | yeah, I find American Gods to be a bit more draggy than his other stuff | |
| 05:20 | $ perl -e 'die "test"' | |
| 05:20 | $ perl -e 'die "test\n"' | |
| 05:21 | dcook | Awesome stuff |
| 05:21 | I'll have to keep that in mind | |
| 05:21 | Good ol' recommendations | |
| 05:21 | eythian | I generally prefer the Carp functions |
| 05:21 | dcook | I can't say I've looked at them too much |
| 05:22 | eythian | they'll do things like show errors from the point of view of the calling function |
| 05:22 | so you know what caused the error, rather than just knowing that you're in the middle of a utility function, say | |
| 05:23 | dcook | I was just reading that :) |
| 05:23 | That would be awesome | |
| 05:23 | Trying to backtrack is annoying as... | |
| 05:24 | eythian | yep |
| 05:24 | see also 'confess' which produces a stack trace | |
| 05:24 | dcook | Yeah, just saw that too :) |
| 05:24 | Also good to keep in mind | |
| 05:27 | @later tell tcohen I envy your congeniality :) | |
| 05:27 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:33 | eythian | hmm, it's getting very dark outside |
| 05:33 | sunset isn't for another 2 hours | |
| 05:33 | glad I packed a raincoat | |
| 05:54 | I'm outta here now, bye! | |
| 05:54 | * eythian | & |
| 06:01 | dcook | laters eythian |
| 06:23 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:38 | magnuse | eythian++ for http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bleshooting_Zebra |
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| 07:44 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:49 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:02 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 08:03 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 08:03 | cait | hi alex_a ) |
| 08:05 | marcelr | hi cait alex_a reiveune |
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| 08:07 | cait | hi marcelr |
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| 08:15 | drojf | good morning #koha |
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| 08:26 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:46 | * cait | waves |
| 08:50 | drojf | hi cait |
| 08:50 | gotta go, later #koha | |
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| 09:12 | kivilahtio | kivilahtio |
| 09:12 | wahanui | i think kivilahtio is working to integrate our SMS provider to Koha |
| 09:16 | kivilahtio | akafred: I am curious about the Cucumber + Watir Webdriver, but it looks like it is quite Rubyish, and I am afraid not many share the love for Ruby. I am not looking forward to adding an extra language to the Koha testing stack. But there must be some kind of an solution :) |
| 09:16 | but it sounds cool | |
| 09:24 | rangi | https://metacpan.org/release/Test-BDD-Cucumber |
| 09:25 | magnuse | yeah, you can do cucumber in perl |
| 09:26 | akafred | Yeah ... browser-based tests are fickly, but they also give some confidence that stuff works, with JS and all. Cucumber-Ruby is quite common, also when testing web-based systems not written in Ruby. |
| 09:26 | kivilahtio | magnuse: yay! |
| 09:27 | akafred | I don't have any experience with Cucumber in perl; also it is important to have a nice webdriver-binding - I don't know if there is any? |
| 09:27 | ... in perl? | |
| 09:29 | rangi | there are perl drivers for selenium, watir is just a layer on top of selenium anyway |
| 09:31 | and if you want to simulate IE, you can use win32::watir | |
| 09:47 | * ashimema | is now a dad.. :) |
| 09:49 | kivilahtio | congratulations ashimema! |
| 09:49 | magnuse | congratulations!!! |
| 09:49 | confetti! | |
| 09:49 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 09:49 | ashimema | :) |
| 09:49 | kivilahtio | I am so happy for you! |
| 09:49 | ashimema | I'm a doting dad now :) |
| 09:49 | kivilahtio | doting? |
| 09:49 | ashimema | 'tis a lovely feeling |
| 09:49 | rangi | congrats ashimema |
| 09:50 | ashimema | doting = excessively or foolishly affectionate |
| 09:50 | kivilahtio | sounds reasonable |
| 09:52 | would it be a bad idea to refactor dateaccessioned to something like datereceived? Or have a new database column for datereceived? I know datereceived is already in the acquisitons module tables, but those pesky acquistions tables need cleaning too | |
| 09:52 | rangi | accessioned is a different thing to received, you want both |
| 09:52 | kivilahtio | I just finished doing some horrible annual statistics work for our Koha, and it was such a pain to find out check-outs for deleted/not-deted items and deleted/not-deleted biblios and if htey are acquired, or juvenile material or musical stuff |
| 09:53 | and the Koha DB certainly would take some improvements regarding our statistical needs (and quite certainly other peoples needs as well) | |
| 09:53 | rangi: I was hoping to have a unfied way inside the Community Koha to show when the Item has been received in the library? | |
| 09:53 | rangi | did you use the statistics table? |
| 09:54 | kivilahtio | rangi: it didnät have 1/4th of the statistical markers we needed |
| 09:54 | rangi | kivilahtio: received and accessioned are 2 different things |
| 09:54 | so you cant unify those two | |
| 09:54 | kivilahtio | rangi: yes I know, dateaccesioned is set when the Item is added to the DB |
| 09:54 | rangi: ok | |
| 09:54 | rangi | its when its catalogued |
| 09:55 | kivilahtio | rangi: When we make acuisitions we tag the Items with a notforloan = "On order" |
| 09:55 | rangi | and barcoded, and put dust jacket on, and processed etc |
| 09:55 | kivilahtio | I guess we could make a zebra serach based on the acquisitons_date -sort excluding Items on this "on order" status |
| 09:55 | rangi | sometimes it can be weeks, even months between being received and being accessioned |
| 09:55 | kivilahtio | rangi: ye |
| 09:55 | rangi | thats a statistic people want to report on two |
| 09:55 | too even | |
| 09:56 | kivilahtio | rangi: i see |
| 09:56 | rangi: I was just checking http://www.library.org.nz/ for the new material search | |
| 09:56 | rangi | yep |
| 09:57 | kivilahtio | hmm, you have a location for ordered items |
| 09:58 | rangi: we have a hack to exclude some materials from Fines (mainly childrens materisl) based on the location | |
| 09:58 | rangi | i dont, but yep te takere does :) |
| 09:58 | kivilahtio | and we need location during the ordering/recewiving phase |
| 09:58 | rangi: ah sorry | |
| 09:59 | well. I think I have a solution :) thanks for listening! | |
| 09:59 | rangi | they host and look after their own koha, we do bits and pieces for them, usually helping with upgrades etc (and design work) |
| 09:59 | kivilahtio | rangi: ok, so you host some libraries and make developments for others ? |
| 10:00 | rangi | yeah i think they have on order, and processing, and mending as locations |
| 10:00 | kivilahtio: yep | |
| 10:00 | kivilahtio | people use Koha so differently, it is quite powerful |
| 10:00 | rangi | most of the public libraries host themselves, because they usually are on not great internet connections |
| 10:01 | and it's important it is fast in the library | |
| 10:01 | but we host a bunch of government libraries, and other specials | |
| 10:01 | kivilahtio | rangi: well the servers can be ion their libraries and then you can host from outside? |
| 10:01 | but I understand, it is good for the liobraries to be able to host them themselves | |
| 10:01 | rangi | http://library.education.govt.nz/ <-- thats a drupal + koha |
| 10:02 | http://library.nzica.com/infor[…]ofessional/#/all/ that's a koha saved report (which outputs as json) and then angular to layout the page | |
| 10:02 | thats the kinda stuff we do | |
| 10:05 | a few of the publics do all their own upgrades now, its pretty simple on the packages, and they all are part of a council, which has a big IT dept, may as well make them earn their money ;-) | |
| 10:06 | kivilahtio | rangi: so what does the big IT department do? is it for libraries only or for the whole publix sector? |
| 10:06 | rangi | no each public library will be part of a city council |
| 10:06 | and that will have an IT dept | |
| 10:06 | in nz anyway | |
| 10:07 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 10:11 | rangi | and now i should go to sleep |
| 10:14 | kivilahtio | sleep tight |
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| 11:53 | akafred | Reservations across more than one biblio; say I don't care if I get an item from the 1973 or the 1982 edition of a book, or even if I get either one of Fodor's or Lonely Planet's Travel Guide for Paris ... how does Koha libraries solve this? |
| 12:07 | kivilahtio | akafred: we dont |
| 12:07 | akafred: butwe need that feature as well | |
| 12:08 | akafred: Also bear in mind, that when you receive serials using the serials module, you cannot place a hold on any serial number, ou can only place holds on a Item | |
| 12:08 | akafred: we call those holds "parallel holds" where if any hold is caught, all other parallel holds dissolve. | |
| 12:09 | akafred: The Serial Number reservation issue is another thing, but rather closely tied to this one | |
| 12:09 | so we need "Parallel reservations" for Biblios and items | |
| 12:10 | akafred: we are hoping to get that feature in our production sometime this year since it is a rather big issue, especially for the serials deprtment | |
| 12:11 | akafred | As a library user (and library system novice) it is a bit strange that this isn't a common feature in ILSs (the proprietary system used in OPL today has this feature, but only through the interface for the librarians. |
| 12:12 | kivilahtio | Does anybody kniw where are the tutorial files fro Zebra indexer (http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/tutorial.html) ? |
| 12:13 | I just cannot make sense of the xslt-modules. I am trying to add an aggregate index which is calculated from all appearances of a subfield inside on Record. | |
| 12:14 | so, if a Biblio has 20 Items, of which 952$7 has different values, I want to know if just one of those Items has a special value. | |
| 12:15 | But that same Item should have another value | |
| 12:16 | drojf | kivilahtio: is there an rfc for parallel reservations? (sounds like you are working on it) |
| 12:16 | kivilahtio | drojf: I am not working on it |
| 12:16 | drojf: we have some improvement regarding holds, but that is something we don't necessarily have to have right now | |
| 12:16 | drojf | ok |
| 12:16 | kivilahtio | drojf: so we are prioritizing low hanging fruit :) |
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| 12:24 | cait | akafred: not sure how common it is - i seem to remember symphony had this feature, but I have never seen or heard of it in another ILS |
| 12:25 | kivilahtio: small steps! | |
| 12:25 | wahanui | small steps are going to be difficult... I'm not pushing anything that I can't even kind of test. |
| 12:25 | cait | :) |
| 12:27 | kivilahtio | cait: thanks |
| 12:27 | cait: I will take it to heart, when I find it :) | |
| 12:27 | cait | the heart???? |
| 12:27 | kivilahtio | just kidding |
| 12:27 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 12:27 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (1:20 PM CET on February 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:28 | kivilahtio | why is the Zebra indexers manual pages stating on the tutorial that there are example files but there are none :( |
| 12:28 | drojf | need. more. caffeine. |
| 12:28 | kivilahtio | drojf: I need a vacation :) |
| 12:28 | drojf | actually, i need sleep. but i'm not going to get that |
| 12:28 | yes i'd take vacation too :D | |
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| 12:29 | kivilahtio | drojf: I need somebody to put me to bed before 12:00 |
| 12:29 | drojf | i need somebody to do all the stuff, i would go to bed all by myself in return |
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| 12:40 | * cait | wont' comment |
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| 12:49 | tcohen | mornin! |
| 12:50 | hi cait | |
| 12:50 | cait | morning tcohen |
| 12:52 | hi tcohen :) | |
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| 13:14 | tcohen | any jenkins guru? |
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| 13:26 | tcohen | Joubu: can u write a folowup with your proposed change for 13602 |
| 13:27 | =D | |
| 13:49 | cait | bug 13602 |
| 13:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13602 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Passed QA , Username/password already exists when editing borrower attributes and messaging preferences |
| 13:51 | Joubu | tcohen: sorry, I am a bit busy today |
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| 13:51 | tcohen | cait: i have it on my master branch right now |
| 13:53 | cait | hm? |
| 13:53 | ah, was just looking up what you were talking about | |
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| 13:59 | akafred | tcohen: I would say I'm a Jenkins guru, but I have managed a couple of Jenkins instances and configured a few jobs ... any particular question? (I don't have admin on the koha-community-jenkins, so if it is related to that I'm a bit crippled...) |
| 13:59 | tcohen | oh |
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| 14:01 | tcohen | I get this when loading a task's page: http://snag.gy/EMTJ6.jpg |
| 14:05 | akafred | tcohen: https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/[…]wse/JENKINS-26496 |
| 14:09 | tcohen: "Updating Disk Usage to 0.25 indeed fixes the issue." --- seems you need to upgrade a Jenkins plugin ... | |
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| 15:27 | tcohen | akafred: thank, you rule! |
| 15:32 | akafred | yay! ;.) |
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| 16:53 | greenall | hey folks |
| 16:54 | Can you remind me what I need to do to get Authorised values for LOST to be visible in the item's interface? | |
| 16:55 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12543 - Add userid as matchpoint for "Import patrons" tool <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]adc9f4367c298cee7> / Bug 13404: [QA Follow-up] Minor rewording of some warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ec41bc24c82ce93dd> / Bug 13404 [QA Followup] <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]git;a=commitdiff; |
| 16:55 | cait | greenall: which page do you mean? |
| 16:56 | do you mean the pull down on the edit item form? | |
| 16:56 | greenall | "Edit item" |
| 16:56 | cait | hm it depends on hte version |
| 16:56 | greenall | That's the one |
| 16:56 | 3.18 | |
| 16:56 | cait | i think it's recommended that you set the lost sttus from the detail page > items tab - to trigger all the right behaviour |
| 16:57 | but i think you can make it visible from administration > bibliographic frameworks > 952 > subfields... | |
| 16:57 | greenall | OK, we saw that, it breaks the automated tests we run :D |
| 16:57 | We will have to code for that if that is the recommended way of doing things | |
| 16:58 | cait: thanks :) | |
| 16:58 | cait | np |
| 16:58 | we don't do much witht he lost status so far, it's still mostly on my #test all the options' list | |
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| 17:02 | greenall | We have many lost statuses (stati?!) and they "*add much benefit for all™*" |
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| 17:32 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_D7 build #305: NOW UNSTABLE in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/305/ |
| 17:32 | * Marc Veron: Bug 13450 - Title and breadcrumb of Patron form can look weird in translations | |
| 17:32 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13450 [QA Followup] - Remove tab character from start of line | |
| 17:32 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13418: Clean C4::VirtualShelves::Page a bit | |
| 17:32 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 13418: [QA Follow-up] Use unshift instead of push | |
| 17:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13450 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Title and breadcrumb of Patron form can look weird in translations |
| 17:32 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13418: Clean C4::VirtualShelves::Page - Part 2 |
| 17:32 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 13638 - Batch patron modification tool missing option to switch language | |
| 17:32 | * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 13602 - Username/password already exists when editing borrower attributes and messaging preferences | |
| 17:32 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 13562: Fix item search on item MARC subfields | |
| 17:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13418 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The C4::VirtualShelves::Page needs some cleaning |
| 17:32 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13602: (QA followup) take advantage of the defined-or operator |
| 17:32 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13352: On editing, prices should not be formatted | |
| 17:32 | * Katrin.Fischer.83web.de: Bug 13352: QA Follow-up: Remove Price filter from "Warning at (%)" |
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| 17:32 | * Fridolin Somers: Bug 13401 - sort branches alphabetically in admin/authorised_values.pl | |
| 17:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13638 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Batch patron modification tool missing option to switch language |
| 17:32 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13602 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , Username/password already exists when editing borrower attributes and messaging preferences | |
| 17:32 | jenkins_koha | * Mirko Tietgen: Bug 13404 - More System information about GRS1 vs DOM settings |
| 17:32 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13404 [QA Followup] | |
| 17:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13562 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Item search: Not possible to add other search fields from 952? |
| 17:32 | jenkins_koha | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 13404: [QA Follow-up] Minor rewording of some warnings |
| 17:32 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12543 - Add userid as matchpoint for "Import patrons" tool | |
| 17:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13352 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Editing amount in Acquisitions budget causes error due to formatting |
| 17:32 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13401 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , sort branches alphabetically in admin/authorised_values.pl | |
| 17:32 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13404 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , More System information about GRS1 vs DOM settings | |
| 17:32 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12543 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add userid as matchpoint for "Import patrons" tool | |
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| 17:39 | gaetan_B1 | bye |
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| 18:18 | rsz | tcohen: hi, do I need to do --create-db after --populate-db? |
| 18:19 | tcohen | rsz: you don't need --populate-db if you are reusing an external DB |
| 18:19 | rsz | I thought of keeping my working koha version untouched, so I am going ahead with a from scratch db.. |
| 18:20 | I am done doing populate-db.. | |
| 18:20 | it said: Koha instance is empty, no staff user created. | |
| 18:20 | (is this good news or bad news)? | |
| 18:21 | tcohen | rsz: i'm not sure what are you trying to do |
| 18:22 | rsz | after populate db when I do a2enmod <lib>; it says module <lib> does not exist(probably apache) |
| 18:22 | just confirm if I need to do create-db after populate-db? | |
| 18:23 | I will summarize my steps here: 1)created koha-common.cnf(for remote db settings) 2)did request-db 3)got db,user,grants done on remote db 4)done calling populate-db | |
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| 18:27 | * rsz_ | is wondering to proceed with --create-db or not!? |
| 18:42 | rsz_ | I went ahead with --create-db, my server says instance is up & running, webpage says koha's sorry unavailable page! |
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| 18:52 | rsz_ | I am unable to load my <serverip>/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl page for configuration, what could be wrong!? |
| 18:55 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu please remind me the bug # for the failing acq tests |
| 18:55 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:06 | tcohen | later #koha |
| 19:06 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13007: DBIC updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]89a801c84418674fa> / Bug 13007: DBRev 3.19.00.009 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e4388a855d35adbc3> / Bug 13007: Special case budgetid == '' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]492f779240d04ffc2> / Bug 13 |
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| 19:10 | cait | hi #koha |
| 19:26 | magnuse | hi cait |
| 19:27 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 19:31 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 19:31 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 PM CET on February 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:31 | magnuse | summer! |
| 19:31 | wahanui | well, summer is here now |
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| 20:00 | magnuse | wb tcohen |
| 20:01 | tcohen | hi magnuse |
| 20:01 | isn't it pizza time yet? | |
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| 20:05 | cait | it's not friday? |
| 20:06 | * tcohen | thought it was all dyas |
| 20:06 | tcohen | :-D |
| 20:06 | was thinking of the tiem of the day | |
| 20:06 | git-bz? | |
| 20:06 | wahanui | somebody said git-bz was at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 20:06 | tcohen | thanks wahanui |
| 20:08 | magnuse | friday |
| 20:08 | friday? | |
| 20:08 | friday is pizzaday | |
| 20:09 | not every day is pizzaday :-) | |
| 20:15 | cait | that makes me sad |
| 20:18 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5511: DBRev 3.19.00.010 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1fb4fa81b0d954477> / Bug 10900: 2 occurrences more <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9f2811e3d74b35e1e> / Bug 10900 - Follow up, since more has been added to master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3c361cc56128b2482 |
| 20:18 | rangi | morning |
| 20:18 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 20:18 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:19 | cait | morning :) |
| 20:19 | tcohen | morning rangi! |
| 20:20 | rangi | https://gitorious.org/kohakudo[…]bf9da0825e2f4f39: |
| 20:20 | for those who are interested | |
| 20:20 | thats what makes the patches pushed and signoffs bit on the dashboard | |
| 20:20 | tcohen | YAY! |
| 20:20 | rangi | please update the orgmap file if you want |
| 20:20 | tcohen: i seen manuel has a signoff already! | |
| 20:21 | tcohen | ah, yes, he deserved it |
| 20:21 | he stood against the screen with me a long pushing sesssion | |
| 20:21 | :-P | |
| 20:21 | rangi | heh |
| 20:23 | tcohen | I thought no one would notice |
| 20:23 | :-D | |
| 20:24 | rangi | i see everything ;) |
| 20:24 | cait | heh it's true |
| 20:24 | rangi | opinions on bug 13235 |
| 20:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13235 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Revise layout of patron search form |
| 20:25 | rangi | push for 3.18.4 .. leave for 3.20 only? |
| 20:25 | cait | hm it reverts back |
| 20:25 | rangi | so its fixing a regression? |
| 20:25 | cait | i'd like to have it back |
| 20:25 | easier for translations | |
| 20:25 | rangi | right, if its a regression fix, all good |
| 20:25 | cait | it revets an accidental change that came in with 9811 |
| 20:26 | rangi | ah yep, ok cool thanks |
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| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_D7 build #306: NOW UNSTABLE in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/306/ |
| 20:47 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 12842: Add DDC classification numbers to MARC21 XSLT detail page | |
| 20:47 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13201: GetSuggestion takes suggestionid | |
| 20:47 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13298 - Holds ratios report ignores ordered items | |
| 20:47 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13299 - Add home library column to the holds ratios report | |
| 20:47 | * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11954 - Clean up currency default files | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12842 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add classification to MARC21 XSLT detail page |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12944: Refactor the patron autocomplete |
| 20:47 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12944: Search orders by basket creator | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13201 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , GetSuggestion takes suggestionid |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 12944 [Patron lists follow-up] There is no way to search orders by creator |
| 20:47 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12944: The autocomplete should only be applied for the form | |
| 20:47 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12944: Fix regression on translating | |
| 20:47 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12944: (QA followup) fix POD errors from koha-qa.pl | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13298 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Holds ratios report ignores ordered items |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13299 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add home library column to the holds ratios report | |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13007: Add a foreign key for suggestions.budgetid |
| 20:47 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13007: Special case budgetid == '' | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11954 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Clean up currency default files |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13007: DBRev 3.19.00.009 |
| 20:47 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13007: DBIC updates | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12944 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , There is no way to search orders by creator |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13007 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , suggestions.budgetid should be a foreign key | |
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| 21:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #44 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:27 | eythian | hi |
| 21:27 | wahanui | kia ora, eythian |
| 21:27 | cait | hi eythian |
| 21:29 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_D7 build #307: NOW UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/307/ |
| 21:29 | * Amit Gupta: Bug - 5511: Check for Change in Remote IP address for Session Security. Disable when remote ip address changes frequently. | |
| 21:29 | * Amit Gupta: Bug - 5511: Added new system preference: SessionRestrictionByIP | |
| 21:29 | * Martin Renvoize: Bug - 5511 [Followup]: Switched defults | |
| 21:29 | * Martin Renvoize: Bug - 5511 [Followup]: Missed Instance | |
| 21:29 | * Katrin.Fischer.83web.de: Bug - 5511 [Followup]: QA Fixes |
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| 21:29 | * Brandon: Bug 10177 - whitespace is a valid password causing pernicious perturbations. | |
| 21:29 | * Brandon: Bug 10177 - Whitespace is accepted within the password but leading and trailing spaces are not. | |
| 21:29 | * Mark Tompsett: Bug 10900 - Incorrect calling conventions accessing C4::Context | |
| 21:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10177 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha Accepts Seven "Space" Characters as a Valid Password |
| 21:29 | jenkins_koha | * Mark Tompsett: Bug 10900 - Follow up, since more has been added to master |
| 21:29 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10900: 2 occurrences more | |
| 21:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10900 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Incorrect calling conventions accessing C4::Context |
| 21:29 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 5511: DBRev 3.19.00.010 |
| 21:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5511 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Pushed to Master , Check for Change in Remote IP address for Session Security. Disable when remote ip address changes frequently. |
| 21:32 | cait | eclipse-- |
| 21:33 | for not even starting after being installed | |
| 21:41 | eythian | hello cait |
| 21:41 | why isn't it starting? | |
| 21:41 | cait | hi eythian |
| 21:41 | i have no idea | |
| 21:42 | it installed without a problem | |
| 21:42 | it asks for where to put the workspace | |
| 21:42 | i say ok... and then it dies. | |
| 21:42 | and i have not the patience to deal with that at this time of the evening. so i uninstaled it again | |
| 21:42 | eythian | ah |
| 21:42 | how did you install it? | |
| 21:42 | cait | software center |
| 21:43 | or whatever they call that in english :) | |
| 21:43 | eythian | I'd grab it from the eclipse site, the one in distros is quite often out of date |
| 21:43 | cait | i will probably install it all in my windows partition |
| 21:43 | the course i need it for seems to be written for windows users | |
| 21:43 | eythian | softwarecentrum here, I think |
| 21:44 | cait | also asks for other stuff tha tmight not run in linux |
| 21:44 | eythian | there's virtually no difference between using it in windows and linux, in my experience (using it to make cross-platform java software.) |
| 21:44 | but, grab the one from the eclipse site either way, it's more likely to work | |
| 21:46 | and it's just a matter of un-tarring it and running ./eclipse | |
| 21:47 | cait | yeah, but i might still go the other route... not sure i want to install tomcat and the other stuff in linux yet |
| 21:47 | when all the instrauctions in the course are windows | |
| 21:47 | i don't have a lot of time to figure out things - might go the easy way | |
| 21:48 | eythian | heh, tomcat in linux is the easy way. |
| 21:48 | cait | heh |
| 21:48 | eythian | that is likely to be safely apt-get installable |
| 21:49 | cait | i understand you, but i still might do it differently ;) |
| 21:49 | * eythian | ran a glassfish (which is like tomcat) server for several years at my last company. |
| 21:49 | cait | this is not for play or fun... it's for the distance study |
| 21:49 | so i'd like to follow the book closely for once and avoid getting stuck | |
| 21:50 | eythian | fair enough, that's what VMs are for |
| 21:53 | https://punkrockor.wordpress.c[…]g-is-np-complete/ <-- for people where it's snowing | |
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| 22:07 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #45 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:25 | dcook | Mmm Java apps |
| 22:25 | * dcook | gives his sympathy to cait |
| 22:26 | cait | thx... |
| 22:26 | dcook: i was wodnering, do you remember which setting collides with icu? | |
| 22:26 | dcook | Mmm, I think it might be Fuzzy |
| 22:26 | Not 100% sure but I think it's Fuzzy | |
| 22:26 | cait | thought it might be fuzzy or field weighting |
| 22:26 | dcook | Field weighting should be all right, although fuzzy only works with field weighting turned on |
| 22:27 | cait | but in our one installation using it currently stemming is turned offand everything else on |
| 22:27 | it's quite confusing :) | |
| 22:27 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 22:27 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:27 | dcook | cait: Totally confusing :) |
| 22:27 | cait | ok, so fuzzy + feidl weighting... |
| 22:27 | might have to figure it out as we go | |
| 22:27 | rangi | im glad its not warm today, we have no windows that open and no aircon |
| 22:27 | cait | is there some obvious bug? |
| 22:27 | dcook | There's also this lovely thing where field weighting can be turned off in complex queries because of bad variable scoping.. |
| 22:27 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 22:27 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (11:27 PM CET on February 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:27 | dcook | rangi: Ouch.. |
| 22:27 | @wunder syd | |
| 22:27 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 24.0°C (9:00 AM AEDT on February 10, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:27 | * dcook | feels a bit warm today |
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| 22:38 | andreashm | hello everyone |
| 22:39 | cait | hi andreashm |
| 22:41 | andreashm | hi cait |
| 22:45 | anyone here going to the hackfest in march? | |
| 22:50 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 22:50 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 22:50 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.18.x_D7 build #51: FIXED in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.18.x_D7/51/ |
| 22:50 | * Thomas: Bug 10241 - Easy analyticals creates two 773 fields. Search/link from host to children is broken | |
| 22:50 | * Mark Tompsett: Bug 13457: Suggestions.t expects sample itemtypes | |
| 22:50 | * Mark Tompsett: Bug 13457 - Followup for CPL and S codes | |
| 22:53 | cait | andreashm: yep |
| 22:53 | andreashm | great |
| 22:54 | cait | are you from stockhom? |
| 22:56 | andreashm | I am |
| 22:56 | And going to the hackfest too. | |
| 22:57 | cait | I spotted an andreas on the spreadsheet - figured that might be you :) |
| 22:58 | andreashm | yeah, not that great at good pseudonyms. =) |
| 22:59 | updated the spreadsheet with the nick. so I guess I have to stick with it. | |
| 23:00 | but time to head off to bed unfortunately. got to remember to stop by here during daytime and not just lurking around late at night | |
| 23:00 | cait | :) |
| 23:00 | at night time you get nz here | |
| 23:00 | at day time europe | |
| 23:00 | well nz and australia... (sorry dcook) | |
| 23:01 | there is always someone on | |
| 23:01 | andreashm | always someone here, I guess |
| 23:01 | I was just reading up on some of the rest api stuff from last weeks irc meeting. very interesting. | |
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| 23:03 | andreashm | ok, bye cait (and everyone else) |
| 23:03 | cait | bye andreashm |
| 23:03 | barton_away | good '(morning|afternoon|evening|day)' #koha |
| 23:04 | cait, can I ask you a zebra index quetion, or are you headed for bed? | |
| 23:04 | cait | bed time sorry |
| 23:04 | midnight here | |
| 23:04 | night all | |
| 23:04 | wahanui | goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
| 23:05 | barton_away | (I suppose when I ask that way, I'm liable to get a quick *oh! well will you look at the time!* ;-) |
| 23:06 | g'nigh cait. | |
| 23:06 | cait | heh |
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| 23:06 | dcook | Wow... I just had the worst experience with some people on the OpenSuse IRC channel... |
| 23:07 | Unbelievably rude and abrasive | |
| 23:07 | barton_away | it's a simple question, actully -- are there limits on the lenght of zebra index names? I'm seeing some things fail, and I don't know why... |
| 23:07 | that's no fun, dcook. | |
| 23:07 | dcook | hehe, thanks cait :) |
| 23:08 | barton_away: I can probably help you when it comes to Zebra | |
| 23:08 | barton_away: Yeah, it was really unpleasant :( | |
| 23:08 | barton_away: As for your question, I'm not sure. What's failing? | |
| 23:08 | barton_away | dcook -- I'll pastebin it. |
| 23:09 | * dcook | thumbs up] |
| 23:15 | dcook | Really still sour about that OpenSuse thing |
| 23:16 | eythian | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19 <-- dcook |
| 23:16 | dcook | Haha |
| 23:16 | Pretty much | |
| 23:16 | Yeah, I've thought that one for a while... | |
| 23:17 | That sort of explains trolls in general | |
| 23:17 | If that had happened here, I would've been embarrassed by the trolls | |
| 23:17 | eythian | wahanui: anonymity is http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19 |
| 23:17 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 23:17 | dcook | But, as they said "40% of the people couldn't care less, and everyone else is AFK" |
| 23:18 | * dcook | shakes head |
| 23:18 | dcook | If I didn't have a selfish desire to get this bug fixed, I just wouldn't bother contributing there.. |
| 23:19 | eythian | yeah, it's often all too easy for groups to become toxic. Especially on IRC. |
| 23:20 | dcook | Yeah, I suppose I should be surprised it's not more widespread |
| 23:20 | I've just had really good experiences on OFTC and freenode overall | |
| 23:20 | Although one day I was in #chef asking a question, and while people were really nice and friendly to me... | |
| 23:20 | Someone else, who appeared to be a developer, said some rather offensive stuff | |
| 23:20 | To someone else or just in general.. it was a bit shocking | |
| 23:22 | Oh well. Experience logged for next time. | |
| 23:22 | eythian | you're just spoilt by #koha |
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| 23:23 | dcook | Hehe |
| 23:23 | A little bit for sure | |
| 23:24 | barton_away: Is that paste still on the way? | |
| 23:27 | barton_away | yep, still composing |
| 23:28 | dcook | Cool :) |
| 23:28 | I'll keep an eye on the channel :) | |
| 23:28 | * eythian | -> meeting |
| 23:31 | barton_away | dcook: http://paste.koha-community.org/410 |
| 23:32 | I think that the crux of the matter is the error ' [114] Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo '1068' | |
| 23:33 | ... but there's definitely a '1068' in ccl.properties. | |
| 23:33 | dcook | Ah, but ccl.properties only maps a bib-1 attribute with a short-cut name |
| 23:33 | You need to check if it's in... | |
| 23:33 | bib1.att | |
| 23:34 | Hmm, it does appear in my bib1.att... but that's the place to check | |
| 23:35 | barton_away | yep: ./etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/bib1.att:att 1068 bibliographic-reference |
| 23:35 | dcook | I suppose another possibility... is that it's an empty index |
| 23:35 | If I recall correctly, if the index is empty, it'll give you an error like that | |
| 23:35 | * dcook | will look some more at that paste and his own koha as well |
| 23:36 | dcook | Yeah I'm getting that same error in yaz-client |
| 23:36 | Let's see.. | |
| 23:36 | barton_away | dcook: so you're saying that if the index exists, but there's no data indexed, you'll get that type of error? |
| 23:37 | dcook | pretty sure |
| 23:37 | not 100% sure, but I think so | |
| 23:37 | Something in my brain suggests this | |
| 23:37 | You'll find the same thing happens if a database is empty | |
| 23:37 | Like if there are no indexed records in "biblios", it'll say "biblios is unavailable" | |
| 23:37 | Now "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml" isn't exactly the file you want | |
| 23:37 | You want to double-check... | |
| 23:37 | barton_away | hm. well I *think* that I have data that should match, but I can always run xsltproc across the marcxml and see... |
| 23:38 | dcook | biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl |
| 23:38 | wahanui | biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl is automatically regenerated from biblio-koha-indexdefs. |
| 23:38 | dcook | I'd double-check "biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl" to see if it's indexing it first |
| 23:38 | barton_away | right... I'll need to use the biblio-zebra ... |
| 23:38 | dcook | Then double-check your data |
| 23:39 | My dev install doesn't index "bibliographic-reference" (or "Reference" as it's called in my version) | |
| 23:39 | So I bet you that's probably it | |
| 23:39 | barton_away | yep,.. we talked about six or eight weeks ago. |
| 23:39 | dcook | Well, I don't actually bet... |
| 23:39 | * dcook | isn't very good at gambling |
| 23:39 | barton_away | heh. |
| 23:40 | * barton_away | knows how to make a small fortune gambling: start with a big fortune .... |
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| 23:53 | barton_away | dcook: I ran xsltproc on ./kohaclone/etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl, using the marcxml for the record that I thought should match ... it did in fact show <z:index name="bibliographic-reference:w">MLA international bibliography of books and articles on the modern languages and literatures (Complete edition)</z:index> |
| 23:53 | dcook | Interesting! |
| 23:53 | wahanui | i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 23:54 | dcook | Hmm |
| 23:54 | I suppose there is another thing you could try which I should've had you try before ;) | |
| 23:54 | In yaz-client, try: | |
| 23:54 | "format xml" | |
| 23:54 | "elements index" | |
| 23:54 | then do a search that you know will return the record you want | |
| 23:55 | That'll show you whether Zebra has that indexed content | |
| 23:55 | barton_away | yeah, I know that trick ... that was going to be my next thing. |
| 23:55 | dcook | Best trick :D |
| 23:55 | eythian | meeting over, that was pleasantly short |
| 23:55 | dcook | short meetings are the best meetings |
| 23:59 | eythian | this explains a lot about Germany I guess: http://i.imgur.com/X6yxoZe.jpg |
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