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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | eythian | a couple of days |
| 00:03 | dcook | Monday or summit? |
| 00:03 | eythian | yeah, that'd be about right |
| 00:07 | dcook | not sure how that one slipped my radar :( |
| 00:07 | Fortunately the bossman was on top of it | |
| 00:19 | wizzyrea | it hasn't gotten quite the coverage of heartbleed or poodle |
| 00:19 | * wizzyrea | is glad, frankly |
| 00:22 | dcook | Or what was the other one... shellshock? |
| 00:22 | Yeah, the link I showed above made a point of saying how awful open source is | |
| 00:22 | I was all "errr..." | |
| 00:22 | Huzzah, Ubuntu 14.04 is already ahead of the curve | |
| 00:22 | That's nice | |
| 00:24 | eythian | oh yeah, patches came out fairly quickly |
| 00:24 | it's not particulary end-of-worldy | |
| 00:24 | dcook | Nah, just work |
| 00:24 | Or in this case not | |
| 00:41 | wizzyrea | yeah, but it's not like Windows where no one can look and so we have no idea what's going on back there. |
| 00:41 | rocio left #koha | |
| 00:41 | wizzyrea | people are looking now, that's a good thing. |
| 00:41 | short term, it'll look icky | |
| 00:41 | long term, it'll be great. | |
| 00:45 | dcook | Exactly |
| 00:45 | :) | |
| 00:49 | eythian: I was thinking more about bug 13632 | |
| 00:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Use a translateable file instead of the database for managing permission descriptions |
| 00:49 | dcook | Not sure how a hash would work there... |
| 00:49 | eythian | neither |
| 00:50 | but I was thinking maybe it could somehow | |
| 00:50 | dcook | Ahh |
| 00:50 | I suppose the way would be having it as an external file that could be read into a hash by a TT plugin | |
| 00:50 | eythian | just so you get a list of something like "key => value" rather than a big switch/case. |
| 00:50 | nah, translation issues there. | |
| 00:51 | dcook | a list? |
| 00:51 | wahanui | it has been said that a list is safer |
| 00:51 | dcook | If the file were stored in a language directory though, you could translate the values |
| 00:51 | Just not the keys | |
| 00:51 | eythian | hmm |
| 00:51 | maybe | |
| 00:51 | dcook | Although that sounds like a translation annoyance as well |
| 00:51 | eythian | yeah |
| 00:52 | dcook | I figure I'll see what tcohen says |
| 00:52 | Happy to redo it whatever way makes the most sense | |
| 00:52 | * dcook | just wishes he already knew what that was :p |
| 00:52 | eythian | I'd be happy enough with how it is if the alternatives don't solve the problem of "making it a bit easier" |
| 00:52 | dcook | Cool :) |
| 00:53 | I'm just going to fix up the handling of the file... as Jonathan and Marcel pointed out, I just didn't understand the difference between INCLUDE/PROCESS | |
| 00:53 | Even though in hindsight, it's fairly obvious | |
| 00:53 | * dcook | will blame it being a strange week for his craziness |
| 00:53 | dcook | I think my cat should be fairly radioactive at this point in the day |
| 00:53 | Not that he's at home... so that doesn't really explain it | |
| 00:57 | eythian | http://datatracker.ietf.org/do[…]rmat-to-standard/ <-- fyi, ASCII is now an internet standard, you can start using it. |
| 01:00 | dcook | \o/ |
| 01:06 | mtj | rangi: ta, ill just tag my various bugs - i also deleted my reponse too |
| 01:07 | dcook | A person can delete responses? |
| 01:07 | * dcook | should probably delete the majority of his own |
| 01:07 | mtj | ..deleted, before i clicked 'send' |
| 01:08 | dcook | Ahhh |
| 01:08 | mtj | peeps, anyone know of a way to dump SIP transactions, from kohas sipserver daemon? |
| 01:09 | dpavlin has a proxy, that he uses for this task -> https://github.com/dpavlin/Biblio-SIP2 | |
| 01:10 | im assuming its not something the sipserver does itself? - (else why would dpavlin make his proxy tool) | |
| 01:10 | dcook | Can't say I've ever worked on SIP, so I'm no help :( |
| 01:11 | mtj | ..np, just thought i'd ask before i started the proxy setup |
| 01:11 | (sounds like a handy feature for the sipserver, anywayz | |
| 01:16 | eythian | mtj: you can just look in syslog |
| 01:16 | it's not nice, but it's easy | |
| 01:19 | dcook | Anyone have ideas for translating one hash into another hash? |
| 01:19 | Like... | |
| 01:19 | Hmm, how best to ask that.. | |
| 01:20 | One to one values is all right. | |
| 01:20 | @later tell rangi Did you ever end up using that Net::OAuth2 module? Or doing anything with OAuth2? | |
| 01:20 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:21 | dcook | I have two OAuth2/OpenID Connect servers that return user info with slightly different hashes... which need to be mapped to something that Koha can use |
| 01:21 | Or use a different sub for each different endpoint, but that seems suboptimal.. | |
| 01:23 | eythian | it depends what needs to change |
| 01:23 | if it's just remapping key names, then i'ts pretty easy | |
| 01:23 | dcook | Well, "city", "state", "country" are keys in my Koha hash |
| 01:23 | But the incoming hash uses Address->{City} | |
| 01:24 | Or rather.. | |
| 01:24 | $incoming->{Address}->{City} | |
| 01:24 | eythian | ah |
| 01:24 | dcook | Whereas name is just $incoming->{Name} |
| 01:24 | eythian | that's a bit more annoying |
| 01:24 | dcook | Yep :/ |
| 01:24 | I could just recurse through and look for a key of City but that loses the relationship it has with Address, which while not necessarily super important... is probably worthwhile in principle | |
| 01:25 | eythian | what are you mapping to? The borrower table? |
| 01:25 | dcook | Yeah |
| 01:25 | eythian | then you're going to have to flatten it anyway |
| 01:26 | dcook | Well, that's what I'm trying to do, I suppose |
| 01:26 | I hadn't thought of that term before though, that helps | |
| 01:26 | eythian | I'd flatten it so you get {Address_City} , then have a hash of from => to, and extract the key=>value from the original, and output it with newkey=>value taken from your mapping hash |
| 01:26 | clear as mud? | |
| 01:27 | dcook | Super clear :) |
| 01:27 | eythian | I wish there were a map { } function for hashes, not just lists |
| 01:27 | mtj | thanks eythian, i see the syslog stuff in the sip config file... ill have a fiddle |
| 01:27 | dcook | Well, I stopped reading halfway through what you said :P |
| 01:27 | eythian: I was totally thinking the same thing yesterday | |
| 01:28 | Hmm, I think I had thought of flattening it, but that assumes that they'll never use a key of Address_City | |
| 01:28 | * wizzyrea | notes that the SIP convo has already occurred. Too late, as usual. |
| 01:28 | dcook | Which... I suppose they wouldn't, or if they did... might be what you want anyway |
| 01:28 | eythian | dcook: well, you need to know everything that might be used anyway |
| 01:28 | otherwise you can't convert it | |
| 01:29 | dcook | Mmm, that's true |
| 01:30 | Thanks for the advice, eythian :) | |
| 01:30 | eythian++ | |
| 01:35 | NYT... BBC... does everyone have at least one CPAN module? (http://search.cpan.org/~bbc/Ha[…]/Hash/Flatten.pm) | |
| 01:36 | mtj | wizzyrea: sip convo has not offically finished :p |
| 01:36 | dcook | I actually kind of like their syntax for flattened hashes |
| 01:37 | Not a core module though.. | |
| 01:38 | mtj | wizzyrea: i got chatting with wnickc - it seems bywater are using ezproxy+OD, so having hit my SIP+OD bug |
| 01:38 | wizzyrea | ezproxy is another problem child. |
| 01:39 | problem's on their end tho. | |
| 01:41 | * dcook | has read way too much about ezproxy lately |
| 01:41 | mtj | fwiw ezproxy+OD seems to have a very similar auth bug too |
| 01:41 | dcook | But I think it's food time. Don't want to get hangry...er. |
| 01:50 | eythian | mtj: see my update. The bug is very obvious. It's not the fault of anything but our SIP daemon. |
| 01:50 | There are other issues that ezproxy has, which are their fault | |
| 01:51 | and interact with this bug in ways that can be confusing | |
| 01:53 | * eythian | puts away his copy of the SIP2 specifications again |
| 01:55 | mtj | ha, me too ^ |
| 01:55 | good news.. i've just confirmed that my SIP bug, is a problem with OverDrive, not Koha | |
| 01:56 | the problem was as colin described | |
| 01:56 | eythian | Ah right |
| 01:57 | mtj | koha says 'user correct, user's password incorrect'... OD signs in user to OD website, regardless :/ |
| 01:57 | eythian | oh right |
| 01:57 | yeah, that's a different bug than that bug talks about | |
| 01:58 | that's totally OD's fault | |
| 01:58 | also, ha ha OD. | |
| 01:58 | mtj | ie: asks for a password, then doesnt bother to check it's valid |
| 01:58 | eythian | btw we're starting a (slow) process to ensure that all SIP communications happen over SSL. |
| 01:59 | we have exproxy using stunnel quite happily now | |
| 01:59 | *ezproxy | |
| 01:59 | epoxy | |
| 02:00 | mtj | eythian++ nice work on that bug ^ |
| 02:00 | wizzyrea | haha od indeed |
| 02:04 | eythian | haha you can search for authorities by 'mainentry', or 'mainmainentry' among other things. |
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| 02:07 | eythian | also, there's an and_or field that's passed to SearchAuthorities. Guess what it does? |
| 02:07 | That's right, nothing at all. | |
| 02:07 | * eythian | documents it as such and moves on |
| 02:33 | eythian | dcook: jcamins: any idea how 'is' (attr 4=1, 5=100) differs from 'exact' (4=1, 5=100, 6=3)? |
| 02:35 | or, where I'd go to see what those attr things mean... | |
| 02:44 | dcook | Hmm? |
| 02:44 | bib-1 attributes | |
| 02:44 | http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html | |
| 02:45 | "6=3" is "complete field" | |
| 02:45 | That looks like the only difference | |
| 02:45 | The handling of that would then depend on Zebra | |
| 02:46 | eythian | oh, ta |
| 02:46 | dcook | No worries |
| 02:46 | Sometimes you might find something that doesn't exist on that webpage of course | |
| 02:46 | Then you'll have to look either on the Zebra docs or in the Koha files | |
| 02:47 | I think we adhere to the standard pretty well, but Zebra has a few special attributes | |
| 02:47 | Mostly to do with field weights and ranking, iirc | |
| 03:14 | Hmm... probably not a good thing that there can be two different notices with the same code.. | |
| 03:14 | Well, not the exact same. | |
| 03:14 | Different case. | |
| 03:14 | But I don't think a select query will tell the difference.. | |
| 03:15 | Ah, it's a different module, so it's not the same | |
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| 04:13 | dcook | Huh... |
| 04:14 | Turns out an item will show up in the Holds to Pull List... even if you couldn't have put a hold on it | |
| 04:14 | That's tricksy | |
| 04:15 | If you do a bib-level hold that is | |
| 04:16 | eythian | oh, that's a bit odd |
| 04:16 | dcook | I'm trying to think if that could ever be desireable |
| 04:17 | I would think not | |
| 04:17 | If you can't put it on hold, it shouldn't be on the holds to pull list, right? | |
| 04:18 | And shouldn't be available as an item to pull, if it's not holdable | |
| 04:20 | C4::Reserves is scary... | |
| 04:51 | Oh man... | |
| 04:56 | I think the epic SQL in pendingreserves.pl might be trying to be a bit too smart for its own good... | |
| 04:56 | It's also just awful in general.. | |
| 04:56 | Trying to create display and stuff as well.. | |
| 04:59 | eythian | erk |
| 05:01 | dcook | It came up because "ebooks" are showing up in the holds to pull list :/ |
| 05:01 | Mind you, the ebooks should probably not be sharing a bib record with a print item | |
| 05:01 | Which is probably why this doesn't come up too often | |
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| 05:25 | dcook | I suppose it assumes a "notforloan" status of 0 is enough.. |
| 06:15 | One of those days where you spent approximately 0 seconds on the issue you wanted to work on... | |
| 06:23 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:26 | dcook | yo magnuse |
| 06:29 | magnuse | yo yo! |
| 06:29 | dcook | You know, I often read your name as "mag-noose" :p |
| 06:29 | magnuse | feel free :-) |
| 06:30 | dcook | :D |
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| 07:06 | cait | morning #koha |
| 07:12 | bag | morning cait |
| 07:13 | cait | morning bag :) |
| 07:24 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 07:24 | bag | magnuse: HI |
| 07:24 | wahanui | bonjour, bag |
| 07:25 | magnuse | cheese! |
| 07:25 | wahanui | cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter. |
| 07:25 | magnuse | lulz |
| 07:25 | bag | magnuse: happy new year |
| 07:25 | magnuse | happy new year to you too, bag! |
| 07:26 | how can you sell VPSes and not tell people how to log on to them? | |
| 07:27 | bag: your marseille-entourage grows bigger every year? | |
| 07:27 | nice! | |
| 07:27 | bag | heh - no one requested to go to kohacon this year - more requested to go to hackfest |
| 07:28 | perhaps next year I will be back to normal | |
| 07:28 | but magnuse this year - the radest two are joining me (Sonja and Ginny)… excited for you to meet them | |
| 07:28 | magnuse | nah, just keep adding more people! |
| 07:29 | cool | |
| 07:29 | but that is not what the spreadsheet says? | |
| 07:29 | bag | heh they aren’t hacking (yet) |
| 07:29 | magnuse | unless those are nicknames... |
| 07:30 | bag | Sonja is my wife and Ginny is my daughter |
| 07:30 | magnuse | ah hah! |
| 07:30 | very cool! | |
| 07:30 | you said something about renting an appartment, so that was for the three of you | |
| 07:30 | * magnuse | is terrible with names |
| 07:43 | bag | actually magnuse everyone from bywater is in the same apartment |
| 07:43 | I guess we’re a happy family ;) | |
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| 07:46 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:51 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:51 | magnuse | bag: a big appartment i hope, then :-) |
| 07:51 | bag | me too |
| 07:52 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:53 | is it far from the biblibre office | |
| 07:54 | * magnuse | has some very happy memories of renting apartments in marseille |
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| 07:57 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:17 | fridolin | hie all |
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| 08:38 | * cait | waves |
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| 08:40 | * magnuse | waves back |
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| 08:42 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:42 | wahanui | niihau, gaetan_B |
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| 08:43 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 08:43 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 5.9°C (9:43 AM CET on January 29, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:43 | paul_p | mmm... it's more than 6° in Marseille... |
| 08:45 | (was 8 when I checked this morning) | |
| 08:50 | magnuse | hm, it says "Saint Victoret" - no ida where that is |
| 08:50 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage, uk |
| 08:50 | huginn | ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 1.2°C (8:41 AM GMT on January 29, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:54 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:54 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 1.8°C (9:54 AM CET on January 29, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:03 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 09:03 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (9:50 AM CET on January 29, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 28.82 in 976 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:03 | magnuse | yeah, rather windy |
| 09:08 | ooh, norwegian winner of Bocuse d'Or :-) | |
| 09:09 | cait | hm? |
| 09:09 | magnuse | http://www.bocusedor.com/bocus[…]-or-finale-2015-1 |
| 09:18 | * magnuse | takes a shot at signing off bug 13607 |
| 09:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13607 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Patron management API |
| 09:20 | magnuse | oh btw, would it make sense to add two things to the marseille spreadsheet: proposed presentations/talks and ideas for presentations/talks that we would like to hear? |
| 09:21 | ashimema | magnuse.. did you read my comments on bug 13607 |
| 09:21 | happy with my last point of.. 'lets not hold this dev up.. but we'll hopefully replace it fiarly soon with a nicer restful one' | |
| 09:21 | if you sign it off.. I'll happily qa it ;) | |
| 09:22 | magnuse | cool |
| 09:23 | yeah, i think it makes sense to get it in, even if we are conspiring to deprecate svc | |
| 09:23 | eythian probably has some valid reason for wanting it in koha | |
| 09:23 | this comment from him made me lol: "We could even add support for 'format=usmarc' if you want to use that as your formatting method. I'm sure someone somewhere likes that idea. They would be a crazy person." | |
| 09:26 | Joubu | norway++ # Bocuse d'or |
| 09:27 | magnuse | merci! |
| 09:27 | Joubu | the USA guy looks quite irritated on the picture at the bottom of the main page |
| 09:28 | He is looking at the norvegian trophy, the gold one :) | |
| 09:28 | magnuse | hehe |
| 09:55 | cait | phone conf... bbl |
| 09:56 | paxed | hmph. well, can't install on debian 7.8 according to the INSTALL.debian file. |
| 10:01 | dependency hell. | |
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| 10:57 | paxed | well. this is fun. looks like link_bibs_to_authorities.pl seems to consider only beginning of string when matching auths. so, eg. "Pohjois-Karjala" will be linked to authority "Pohjois-Karjala-projekti" |
| 10:58 | the example yesterday, "Peru", was matched to "perunkarvatonkoira" ... | |
| 10:59 | can anyone test if that happens on master? i don't have master installed. | |
| 11:03 | and it apparently also matches at the end, because "West" for matched to "Finnish-American Historical Society of the West" | |
| 11:03 | s/for/was/ | |
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| 11:50 | magnuse | hm, looks like editing a patron on 3.18.3 gives an error if the form you are editing in does not include the fields for username and password. the error displayed is "The following fields are wrong. Please fix them. Username/password already exists." |
| 11:50 | anyone else seen that | |
| 11:50 | ? | |
| 11:51 | so if you are on the patron detail page and click on the grey button, edit and save - it works | |
| 11:52 | but if you are on the patron detail page and click on the link under the name, main address, primary email etc, do some changes and then save you get the error above | |
| 11:59 | ah bug 13602 | |
| 11:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13602 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Username/password already exists when editing borrower attributes and messaging preferences |
| 11:59 | * magnuse | slaps himself around a bit for missing that the first time |
| 12:07 | Joubu | magnuse: hum, maybe should we raise the priority of this bug to major? |
| 12:13 | magnuse | yeah, might be a good idea |
| 12:14 | but on the other hand, there is an easy workaround: just click the edit button, so you get the complete form | |
| 12:15 | cait | magnuse: there is a bug eport i think from kivi |
| 12:15 | ah, yep that one | |
| 12:15 | * cait | shoudl read to the end |
| 12:19 | magnuse | :-) |
| 12:20 | i'll see if i can sign that off this evening | |
| 12:20 | if noone beats me to it, that is | |
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| 13:08 | DanSwano | cait or anybody else? |
| 13:11 | because there is not enough russian translations in web interface I decided to recreate library. First I install Russian language and then run web installer, choose "Unimarc" and select some optional checkboxes. | |
| 13:13 | during data addition I have an errors, which can be read at pastebin: http://pastebin.com/eAfJ3dwW | |
| 13:15 | the text is in Russian, you can use Google translate but the most of it is not requires translation | |
| 13:15 | cait | DanSwano: russian installer files are not really maintained, bit worried you might run into problems |
| 13:16 | DanSwano: maybe compare the translated files with the english ones | |
| 13:16 | to see where the differences are | |
| 13:16 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 13:16 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -1.1°C (7:31 AM EST on January 29, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Rising). Freezing Rain Advisory in effect until 11 am EST this morning... |
| 13:16 | DanSwano | cait, where these files are located? |
| 13:16 | cait | DanSwano: you can translate most of those via the interface or they are nt meant to translated |
| 13:16 | installer/data/mysql/ru-RU | |
| 13:16 | or en | |
| 13:17 | you can also compare to de-DE - to see which values shoudl be translated | |
| 13:17 | de-DE shoudl be up to date | |
| 13:18 | DanSwano | cait, is it possible to manually add English files to replace some Russian files which are incorrect? |
| 13:19 | cait | youcoudl copy the enlgish files over |
| 13:19 | DanSwano | cait, or manually add them via mysql cli? |
| 13:19 | cait | to replace the broken russian one |
| 13:20 | yeah, see which tables are changed and do that manually | |
| 13:20 | could also do it the other way around | |
| 13:20 | install english and then clean up where you find good translations | |
| 13:21 | magnuse: do you remember the mysql bug opl filed? looking for it but don't fnd it | |
| 13:21 | magnuse | something to do with the version of mysql? |
| 13:21 | cait | tried that |
| 13:21 | but yep | |
| 13:21 | i mean i looked for version and mysql, but no luck so far | |
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| 13:22 | DanSwano | cait, thanks, I'll try to add english files manually |
| 13:24 | magnuse | cait: bug 13523? |
| 13:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13523 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , AddBiblio fails on mysql with STRICT_TRANS_TABLES |
| 13:24 | cait | yes thx! |
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| 13:58 | tcohen | morning |
| 14:03 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
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| 14:05 | Shane-S | Is there any issue going from 3.12.05.000 to 3.18.X? |
| 14:05 | I installed from packages | |
| 14:07 | Second question...how can I export patrons...I need their names and barcodes to match up with our inventory to assign ppl, and I want to make a label with an items serials number and the patron barcode so I can enter it in Koha and use it checkout/tracking | |
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| 14:08 | Shane-S | Even if I just have their barcode #, I have 3 of 9 font to make the barcodes |
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| 14:32 | David_H | Quick question: how do I backup my database before an upgrade? |
| 14:32 | Shane-S | Can anyone help me get my patrons names and barcodes out, not sure how to extract that information. |
| 14:33 | David_H last time I asked that they said there is a /backup/ folder | |
| 14:33 | I guessing /etc/koha/backup..but I have to search to check | |
| 14:34 | David_H | ok, thank you |
| 14:35 | Shane-S | David_H: If you installed form packages... http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]#koha-run-backups |
| 14:36 | David_H | oh good, I'll check that out |
| 14:37 | magnuse | if you installed with the packages you will have backups in /var/spool/koha/<instancename> |
| 14:37 | nengard | Hi David_H |
| 14:37 | and all | |
| 14:37 | magnuse | but if you have an active installation you probably want to do a new backup right before you upgrade |
| 14:37 | nengard | I love seeing David_H in here more :) |
| 14:37 | magnuse | hiya nengard |
| 14:38 | * Shane-S | retracts all previous info...appears old and/or bad |
| 14:40 | magnuse | oh definitely look at the commands provided by the packages |
| 14:41 | nengard | magnuse are you coming to the hackfest? |
| 14:41 | David_H | lol...David's been watching over my shoulder and kibitzing. I've been acting as his tech support |
| 14:41 | nengard | You're not david? |
| 14:41 | who are you? :) hehe | |
| 14:42 | David_H | lol...I'm Greg...David's typist apparently. He tells me what to say and I type it |
| 14:42 | Shane-S | transcriber sounds more professional |
| 14:43 | magnuse | nengard: yup - looking forward to meeting you and the rest of the bywater posse |
| 14:43 | David_H | oooh..."transcriber"...that sounds like a job promotion |
| 14:44 | * magnuse | wanders off to make dinner |
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| 14:44 | nengard | Nice to "meet" you Greg - David is an awesome guy :) |
| 14:44 | Shane-S | grr...keeps saying local host times out...time for an IRC client I guess |
| 14:45 | nengard | and magnuse YIPPEEE |
| 14:45 | :) | |
| 14:45 | carmen | morning #koha :) |
| 14:47 | Shane-S | what can I add to my SQL report to filter patrons on category type of KIDS |
| 14:48 | code is "K" | |
| 14:48 | * Shane-S | sighs...have to go troubleshoot Comcast...keep failing over to Verizon. |
| 14:50 | Shane-S | would it be... WHERE categorycode = "K" ? |
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| 15:02 | Shane-S | sorry I didn't see if anyone answers...is WHERE categorycode = "K" accurate? |
| 15:04 | Joubu | Shane-S: you can check the category codes on /admin/categorie.pl |
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| 16:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:56 | * cait | waves |
| 16:56 | * JesseM | waves back at cait |
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| 17:41 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 21:12 | * cait | waves |
| 21:12 | nengard | hola cait |
| 21:12 | cait | hi nengard |
| 21:18 | eythian | hi |
| 21:22 | nengard | :) |
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| 22:12 | eythian | wahanui: alot is <reply>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-[…]Ko/s1600/ALOT.png |
| 22:12 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 22:15 | pianohacker | alot of what? |
| 22:16 | eythian | It's an alot. |
| 22:16 | pianohacker | alot of rebases? :( |
| 22:16 | eythian | no, it's a picture of an alot. |
| 22:16 | pianohacker | I guess alot is better than me at rebases too |
| 22:16 | eythian | you can draw the alot of rebases if you like |
| 22:16 | I don't know what it looks like :) | |
| 22:17 | pianohacker | yeah, I wasn't quite sure on that either... |
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| 22:43 | * dcook | chuckles at scrollback |
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| 23:05 | dcook | It really does seem like every CPAN module has been packaged for Debian... |
| 23:06 | pianohacker | some things in life are in the repos. For everything else, there's dh-make-perl |
| 23:06 | dcook | no doubt, eh? |
| 23:07 | I'm debating downloading Hash::Flatten or writing my own... | |
| 23:07 | * pianohacker | is not sure if that particular joke translates :) |
| 23:07 | dcook | pianohacker: the style sounds familiar |
| 23:09 | eythian | dcook: no, no they haven't :) |
| 23:09 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:09 | eythian: I recall you mentioning that you'd packaged a few for Debian as they hadn't :) | |
| 23:09 | eythian | https://qa.debian.org/develope[…]n@catalyst.net.nz <-- dcook |
| 23:10 | there's also more in the pipeline I think | |
| 23:10 | dcook | I think that's the link you showed me last time :) |
| 23:10 | MARC::Transform? | |
| 23:11 | eythian | yeah, I can't remember what that's used for |
| 23:11 | dcook | Maybe the importer template things? |
| 23:11 | eythian | could be |
| 23:11 | dcook | Sounds familiar |
| 23:11 | eythian | hmm, not in use in Koha anyway |
| 23:11 | dcook | No? |
| 23:11 | wahanui | http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg |
| 23:11 | eythian | maybe I didn't it for someone for some particular reason |
| 23:12 | or it was something that never made it in | |
| 23:12 | dcook | Hmm, dunno. Looks like a BibLibre thing |
| 23:12 | eythian | oh, yeah |
| 23:12 | it is | |
| 23:12 | now I remember | |
| 23:12 | dcook | How much does Catalyst customize Koha installs? |
| 23:12 | What I mean is... | |
| 23:13 | How much do you use Perl modules that aren't installed with normal Koha? | |
| 23:13 | eythian | as little as possible is the probable answer. |
| 23:13 | oh | |
| 23:13 | very little | |
| 23:13 | dcook | Same. I think the only extra ones we've included so far have been for extra auth options |
| 23:13 | eythian | we'll sometimes have bug fixes and small extra features in our branches, but we try not to as much as possible |
| 23:13 | dcook | Which is why I'm a bit hesitant to use this Hash::Flatten, even though it's perfect |
| 23:14 | Yeah, that reminds me that I need to find a block of time to upstream as much as I can.. | |
| 23:14 | eythian | It's in debian already, I don't mind :) |
| 23:14 | dcook | I don't know if I'll be upstreaming this change anytime soon, but I suppose it would be easy to include that dependency.. |
| 23:15 | pianohacker | dcook: as long as you don't do what I did and promise on eythian's behalf that he'd debianize a CPAN module I was using in a patch :) |
| 23:15 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:15 | eythian | heh that is frowned upon ;) |
| 23:15 | * eythian | -> lunch |
| 23:15 | dcook | I'll do my best to avoid that one ;) |
| 23:15 | Oh man... lunch would be so good right now | |
| 23:15 | * dcook | says having just eaten breakfast maybe an hour ago |
| 23:15 | eythian | it is lunchtime... |
| 23:16 | dcook | Hmm, maybe eating vitamins will make me feel better |
| 23:16 | eythian: If I had my way, 10-2 would be lunch time | |
| 23:16 | If I weren't so tall, I would think I were a hobbit | |
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| 23:23 | dcook | You know... when I look at "koha_perl_deps.pl", it doesn't look like Koha really has "THAT" many Perl dependencies |
| 23:28 | eythian | dcook: look at debian/control |
| 23:28 | dcook | I have a few times, and it seemed a lot longer... |
| 23:28 | eythian | it uses the list in C4::Installer::whateverit'scalled.pm |
| 23:29 | dcook | C4::Installer::PerlDependencies |
| 23:29 | I'm looking at that now :) | |
| 23:29 | Well, I guess I'm looking at 3.14.5 | |
| 23:29 | Looks like a lot of modules have been added since then | |
| 23:30 | Or these aren't in alphabetical order so maybe that's why it's deceiving.. |
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