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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:04 | papa joined #koha | |
| 00:47 | dcook | Mmm tcohen, can I ask you a quick question? |
| 00:47 | I'm curious when the fix for oversize MARC records was added... | |
| 00:48 | I want to say it was after 3.14.5? | |
| 00:50 | Ah, should've checked the times on the scrollback.. | |
| 00:54 | Ah, 3.16 | |
| 00:54 | bug 11096 | |
| 00:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra |
| 01:30 | eythian | tcohen: is there a guide to mocking database calls for building tests anywhere? |
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| 01:57 | tcohen | eythian: I recall doing some on Calendar.t |
| 01:58 | eythian | tcohen: OK, I'll have a look. ta |
| 01:58 | tcohen | the guys have used Test::DBIx or smth similar for DBIx::Class |
| 02:07 | zebra::meta::sysno | |
| 02:07 | oops | |
| 02:07 | jcamins | tcohen: that's it. |
| 02:18 | eythian | arg this code is untestable |
| 02:18 | or at least, hard to test | |
| 02:18 | it uses 'exit' | |
| 02:18 | which is bad | |
| 02:19 | and means I can't readily work out the SQL that it'd be running in order to mock it. | |
| 02:20 | * tcohen | thinks it sounds like code that needs to be thought a bit more about |
| 02:20 | eythian | yes, but I don't have the time to fix it. |
| 02:20 | (I didn't write it, I just changed things.) | |
| 02:21 | * tcohen | recalls Auth.pm contained such things |
| 02:21 | eythian | this is C4::Service |
| 02:22 | if there's an error, it just bails with exit | |
| 02:23 | (error includes authentication)( | |
| 02:24 | dcook | :S |
| 02:24 | eythian | screw it |
| 02:24 | * eythian | mocks C4::Auth |
| 02:24 | eythian | I'd wanted to include that in the tests |
| 02:26 | tcohen | night everyone |
| 02:26 | eythian | hmm |
| 02:26 | how do I override a module | |
| 02:26 | that gets loaded from somewhere else | |
| 02:27 | (i.e. I want to replace the C4::Auth that C4::Service loads with one of my own creation) | |
| 02:27 | cjh_ | eythian: have a module with the same name earlier in the perl path ? |
| 02:27 | eythian | /kcik cjh_ no swearing, this is a family channel |
| 02:29 | dcook | I think I've wanted to do that but figured it was unpossible |
| 02:30 | eythian | it doesn't make sense for it to be impossible, otherwise you could never mock the dependencies of another module. |
| 02:31 | oh | |
| 02:31 | I don't quite understand it | |
| 02:31 | but Test::MockModule just works | |
| 02:32 | the example code implied that it wouldn't work how I wanted it to. | |
| 02:32 | cjh_ | I was just reading through the docs for it trying to work out if it would work |
| 02:32 | eythian | in the example code, they always use the handle that is returned |
| 02:32 | but that's not necessary | |
| 02:38 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 02:38 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 23.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | that is very warm. |
| 03:07 | * wizzyrea | tries to recall what she sent the sprog to holiday program wearing |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | I hope it was cool. |
| 03:08 | ibeardslee | is that something he really needs to worry about at his age - being 'cool'? |
| 03:08 | wizzyrea | well temperature wise. |
| 03:08 | but yeah, that starts sooner than any of us would like. | |
| 03:09 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 03:09 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 25.0°C (2:00 PM AEDT on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:09 | dcook | I hope that's not right.. |
| 03:09 | * dcook | looks outside |
| 03:09 | dcook | Grrr... I wish the rainy clouds had stayed... |
| 03:09 | eythian | it was warm all weekend here, but very windy which meant I couldn't go biking like I intended. |
| 03:10 | dcook | Very warm all weekend here too :( |
| 03:10 | wizzyrea | it was SO windy. |
| 03:10 | dcook | One of the cats almost lost his cool... panting something fierce. Poor guy. |
| 03:10 | wizzyrea | not unusually windy, but still windy. |
| 03:10 | dcook | ibeardslee: I think that starts at birth :p |
| 03:10 | wizzyrea | it would have been nice for the beach, except for the sandblasting. |
| 03:10 | dcook | Mind you, that might be parents' perceptions of cool... |
| 03:11 | Especially in regards to private vs public school kids.. | |
| 03:11 | wizzyrea | kids have underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes = kids are dicks. |
| 03:12 | (yes, even mine.) | |
| 03:13 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:13 | So what's the excuse for adults? :p | |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea | they never grew up? |
| 03:43 | dcook | Probably |
| 03:43 | Got2go though! | |
| 03:43 | ta | |
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| 04:32 | cait | hi #koha |
| 04:32 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 04:32 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 0.8°C (5:32 AM CET on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:32 | cait | hmcould be worse i guess |
| 04:36 | eythian | hi cait |
| 04:36 | you're awake early | |
| 04:36 | cait | yeah travelling again |
| 04:37 | eythian | anywhere interesting? |
| 04:38 | cait | hmm |
| 04:38 | hard to tell :) | |
| 04:38 | the day will show it | |
| 04:39 | eythian | heh |
| 04:39 | fair enough | |
| 04:49 | cait | bye |
| 05:50 | mtj | rangi: abouty for a BZ Q? |
| 06:16 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:17 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:17 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -2.0°C (7:00 AM CET on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
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| 07:41 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:41 | wahanui | bidet, reiveune |
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| 07:58 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:58 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
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| 08:02 | fridolin | hie all |
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| 08:39 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:39 | wahanui | niihau, gaetan_B |
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| 08:57 | Joubu | yop |
| 08:57 | ashimema: aound? | |
| 09:01 | @later tell ashimema Does the status for bug 13596 should be NSO? | |
| 09:01 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:08 | gaetan_B | have we seen Bernardo recently? |
| 10:08 | !seen bgkriegel | |
| 10:08 | @seen bgkriegel | |
| 10:08 | huginn | gaetan_B: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 7 weeks, 3 days, 15 hours, 29 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> tcohen++ |
| 10:08 | gaetan_B | seems to be no... |
| 10:09 | anyone heard from him? | |
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| 10:09 | gaetan_B | (i emailed him to create a pootle account but got no answer) |
| 10:23 | magnuse | tcohen will probably know, when he wakes up |
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| 10:37 | gaetan_B | yep i'll ask tcohen |
| 10:38 | @later tell tcohen have you seen Bernardo recently? he hasn't showed up in a while it seems. | |
| 10:38 | huginn | gaetan_B: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:38 | Joubu | dashboard is down again |
| 11:38 | @later tell rangi dashboard is down again :-/ | |
| 11:38 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:03 | kivilahtio | Did I tell how cool the ILS-DI is? |
| 12:03 | Did I say how proud I am that Koha has ILS-DI support? | |
| 12:03 | its freaking awesome. | |
| 12:04 | liw | kivilahtio, I have not heard this |
| 12:04 | kivilahtio | https://renki.vaarakirjastot.f[…]oha/opac/ilsdi.pl |
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| 12:52 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:59 | kivilahtio | ho oleonard |
| 12:59 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 12:59 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -0.8°C (7:59 AM EST on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:08 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 13:08 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:08 | * magnuse | has seen the sun today, though |
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| 13:39 | oleonard | It was a busy Bugzilla weekend (which was a long one for most of us Americans) |
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| 13:55 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #55 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) |
| 13:55 | magnuse | oleonard: what was the occasion? |
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| 13:56 | oleonard | A day honoring Martin Luther King Jr. |
| 13:56 | magnuse | cool |
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| 14:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #55: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/55/ |
| 14:24 | Owen Leonard: Bug 13196 - "Always show checkouts immediately" cookie should persist across sessions | |
| 14:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13196 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "Always show checkouts immediately" cookie should persist across sessions |
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| 15:50 | Guest2604 | IDENTIFY Jesse |
| 15:50 | JesseM | Too many Jesse's |
| 15:50 | :) | |
| 15:50 | Guest2604 | IDENTIFY JesseL |
| 15:50 | Yep | |
| 15:52 | I have a question though | |
| 15:55 | My tech people are asking me about RAM and processing specs for our new linux server. We are a special library in DC. What do you think about 32Gb RAM and Xenon E5 CPU, 8 cores. Somewhere in the 2.4-2.8 GHz range processing? | |
| 15:56 | rambutan | Hey, I want a couple of those! |
| 15:57 | druthb | That's pretty powerful—you could run a pretty darn big library with that. |
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| 15:57 | Guest2604 | Ok, so we should dial back some perhaps? |
| 15:57 | druthb | You *could* dial back—but no one's twisting your arm. |
| 15:57 | saa | i want to have barcode numbers as text and number in the order we want for eg NDAA1 |
| 15:57 | Guest2604 | haha |
| 15:57 | Thank you | |
| 15:57 | rambutan | If the budget people are ok with that stand fast. |
| 15:58 | saa | is it possible to get barocde in this way |
| 15:58 | Guest2604 | Great |
| 15:58 | druthb | rambutan++ |
| 15:59 | you've got a ton of room for compromise, if the budgeters spaz out—quad core, less RAM (down to 8 GB or so)… As a special library, your big need isn't gonna be high traffic, but lots of storage space. | |
| 16:04 | Guest2604 | Thanks druthb |
| 16:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:04 | druthb | Sure thing. :) |
| 16:04 | Guest2604 | I think we'll have about 1 Tb of storage, plus backup |
| 16:05 | druthb | You could also, if your IT policy allows, use a VPS service, like Linode. I use them for my personal space, and dev work I've done in the past on Koha. Cheap-cheap, and they are uber-reliable. |
| 16:05 | Also, scalable. You could get a bottom-end machine for 20 bucks a month, upgrade on the fly as needed. | |
| 16:06 | Guest2604 | Not a bad idea, though there are other decisions already in play. We'll be installing the server in a rack with other devices already running etc. |
| 16:12 | But if linode is that cheap, I may look into it for something of my own (thanks again). | |
| 16:12 | Cheers everyone | |
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| 17:26 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 18:30 | aleino | http://es.koha-community.org/m[…]ter/en/manual.pdf is still down :( |
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| 18:49 | oleonard | And http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 18:49 | wahanui | http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise |
| 18:51 | cait | oleonard: down again? |
| 18:52 | probably the same thing happening all the time i guess | |
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| 18:55 | cait | hi tcohen |
| 19:05 | druthb | cait! |
| 19:25 | cait | oleonard: tablesorter plugin - did we get rid of that? |
| 19:26 | oleonard | Yes |
| 19:26 | cait | bug 13301 |
| 19:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13301 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Call number link in search results is broken |
| 19:27 | cait | h sorry... not that one |
| 19:27 | bug 13364 | |
| 19:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13364 enhancement, P3, ---, simith.doliveira, Signed Off , Add a call number browser in item edition page |
| 19:27 | cait | you can almost count on me getting th efirst bug number wrong always :) |
| 19:28 | it seems the patch adds it back, Joubu left a comment | |
| 19:32 | oleonard | Yeah adding it back would not be good. |
| 19:32 | cait | i left a comment and failed it - hope you agree :) |
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| 20:56 | rangi | morning |
| 20:56 | anyone know any authority search targets? | |
| 20:56 | we could use to test bug 11961 ? | |
| 20:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11961 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, Needs Signoff , Add a "Z39.50 search" button to the authority creation and modfication forms. |
| 20:57 | cait | hm yes |
| 20:57 | one sec | |
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| 21:25 | eythian | hi |
| 21:35 | * wizzyrea | waves hello |
| 21:47 | * cait | waves back |
| 21:47 | eythian | how's the travels, cait |
| 21:48 | cait | back home |
| 21:48 | and it was cold today | |
| 21:52 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 21:52 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on January 21, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:52 | eythian | a bit cooler here right now, too |
| 21:52 | cait | eythian: how long have you been packaging manager? |
| 21:52 | which version? | |
| 21:52 | wahanui | which version is, like, recommended |
| 21:52 | eythian | umm |
| 21:52 | a while | |
| 21:52 | cait | a while won't work here |
| 21:53 | eythian | roughly since commit a1011ad I think |
| 21:53 | Mon Jul 19 17:41:05 2010 +1200 | |
| 21:54 | cait | which koha version is that? |
| 21:54 | eythian | just finding out |
| 21:54 | cait | thx :) |
| 21:54 | eythian | cait: 3.2 |
| 21:54 | cait | rangi: are you still around? |
| 21:54 | thx! | |
| 21:55 | eythian | he's in a meeting |
| 21:55 | cait: why do you need to know that, anyway? | |
| 21:55 | cait | 7143 |
| 22:02 | eythian | hmm, I prefer 3.x to 3.X when used as a wildcard. |
| 22:02 | It seems more correct. | |
| 22:02 | </pedant> | |
| 22:03 | no wait | |
| 22:03 | <pedant> | |
| 22:03 | there, now I still have an excuse. | |
| 22:12 | dcook | 3.x does seem better than 3.X |
| 22:12 | * dcook | goes back into the shadows :p |
| 22:14 | eythian | http://i.imgur.com/Nnswh8i.jpg <-- breaking news! |
| 22:15 | cait | eythian: i agree - but we are trying something new |
| 22:16 | 3.2+ | |
| 22:16 | eythian | that's more betterer still |
| 22:16 | cait | is that an agreement? |
| 22:16 | eythian | does it look like it isn't? |
| 22:19 | cait | um. |
| 22:19 | just checking | |
| 22:20 | betterer? :) | |
| 22:22 | eythian | hey, whose language is this! |
| 22:23 | get rid of gendered nouns, then we can talk! | |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | ffs, if you .x then you don't have to hit shift. |
| 22:23 | come on, we are virtuous lazy people here | |
| 22:23 | eythian | (mostly because talking would be easier then) |
| 22:23 | .x? | |
| 22:23 | oh | |
| 22:23 | heh | |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea | do you have a more considered reason for preferring .x to .X |
| 22:24 | eythian | in mathematics, the standard variable is x, not X. |
| 22:24 | cait | X looks like roman 10 to me :) |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea | besides that you have to hit shift to reach a key combination that is on weak fingers on the non-dominant hand of most of the population? |
| 22:25 | your reason is good too. | |
| 22:25 | but mine is "because lazy" so I think I win. | |
| 22:25 | * wizzyrea | declares herself world champion |
| 22:25 | dcook | "Breaking news". Hehe. It's funny on multiple levels... |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | *snerk* |
| 22:26 | of course, that implies the privilege of qwerty keyboarding. | |
| 22:26 | dcook | I was just thinking that |
| 22:27 | cait | ok, now oyu lost me |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea | shift + x, i'm contending, is a hard key combo to type. |
| 22:28 | dcook | Hmm, I think alphanumeric stuff is usually all right |
| 22:28 | Some of the special character used to trip me up when speed typing... | |
| 22:28 | Like tilde and backtick... those aren't that comfortable | |
| 22:29 | I suppose + is not so great either.. | |
| 22:29 | It does make your hands look kind of cool on the keyboard though | |
| 22:29 | Like they're dancing! | |
| 22:29 | * dcook | hasn't had breakfast yet.. |
| 22:30 | rangi | cait: yep back it's aleisha who would like to know :) |
| 22:34 | cait | :) |
| 22:34 | hope it works | |
| 22:36 | aleisha | yep was good thanks cait! |
| 22:36 | cait | np :) |
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