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| 00:16 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 02:33 | eythian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyHcIHssdHA <-- dcook |
| 02:38 | dcook | eythian: Damn that's creative! |
| 02:38 | * dcook | wonders how these people's brains work |
| 02:39 | eythian | they seem to have done a few |
| 02:39 | dcook | Seems like it |
| 02:40 | It's like 6 talented people in the shower without the water and with a drum kit | |
| 02:40 | eythian | http://youtu.be/XCGQiGEYl4Y <-- an entertaining Nighwish cover |
| 02:40 | though with real drums, but I guess you need that./ | |
| 02:40 | dcook | My shower may or may not have heard a few renditions of Fear of the Dark.. |
| 02:40 | eythian | haha |
| 02:40 | dcook | Yeah, I don't know how they'd do it without the drums |
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| 02:43 | dcook | Actually, I wonder if they did form after a long road trip... |
| 02:44 | eythian | I wouldn't be surprised... |
| 02:45 | dcook | Hmm, I wonder how many times the drummer has made jokes about bandmates... |
| 02:45 | * dcook | tries to remember how it goes.. |
| 02:46 | dcook | "What do you call someone who hangs around with musicians?" |
| 02:46 | A drummer. | |
| 02:46 | eythian | heh |
| 02:46 | dcook | Oh my, I've stumbled upon a page of drummer jokes now.. |
| 02:47 | Hmm so much for my electro-indie afternoon. Metal it is... | |
| 02:47 | I needed something with more energy anyway | |
| 02:48 | eythian | Try Gogol Bordello if you want something sorta weirdly in the middle |
| 02:48 | dcook | Hmm, might be a bit early in the week for Gogol Bordello |
| 02:48 | And a definite lack of red wine | |
| 02:49 | eythian | fair enough |
| 02:49 | dcook | Although Gogol Bordello live were one of the best concerts I've been to I think |
| 02:49 | I'll never understand it... I was in town for a reptile expo, and it just so happened the venue was across from my hotel | |
| 02:49 | We walked up to see if anyway had spare tickets... went to the counter and got awesome seats in the third row for next to nothing :) | |
| 02:49 | eythian | I'm trying to remember if I've seen them, I don't think I have, but I've started to lose track. |
| 02:50 | sweet | |
| 02:50 | dcook | Sadly, I've been able to keep track of everything in recent years :( |
| 02:50 | Once upon a time, it was a show a week, but these days... I think I've seen less than a handful of gigs in the past 3 years :( | |
| 02:54 | eythian | http://www.last.fm/user/eythia[…]n+live&view=cloud <-- I need to spend a bit of time and make that properly up to date |
| 02:55 | dcook | 2007... |
| 02:55 | I think that's when I saw Tool too | |
| 02:55 | Enjoy the band but it was an awful show :( | |
| 02:55 | Worst crowd ever.. | |
| 02:56 | Well, not the worst. Just not good. | |
| 02:56 | That's quite the list! | |
| 02:56 | Still heartbroken over not seeing Iron Maiden in 2009 | |
| 02:57 | Tickets sold out in less than 30 minutes. I had overslept just barely but I figured I'd have a chance... nope. | |
| 02:57 | eythian | It was pretty good. |
| 02:57 | ah, a friend and I booked early. | |
| 02:57 | dcook | Smart move |
| 02:57 | eythian | and then bussed up to Christchurch for it, I think. |
| 02:57 | dcook | It would've been local for me :( |
| 02:57 | Only minutes from my apartment! | |
| 02:57 | * dcook | is only slightly bitter |
| 02:58 | dcook | My girlfriend of the time knew a guy who bought tickets for 3 or 4 of their shows |
| 02:58 | eythian | that's just greedy. |
| 02:58 | dcook | Flew to the other cities for the shows before they got to our home town |
| 02:58 | Agreed | |
| 02:58 | More money than sense that fellow | |
| 02:59 | Actually, that was an interesting thing about that show. It was so popular. Enoromously popular. | |
| 02:59 | I think a lot of people bought tickets because it was marketed so well. | |
| 02:59 | Which meant that not everyone who went even actually wanted to see it :S | |
| 02:59 | Ok, I'll stop rambling about how bitter I am about that :p | |
| 02:59 | Glad that I got my advanced Mogwai tickets at least | |
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| 04:27 | eythian | perl svc/members/upsert 'matchField=cardnumber' 'cardnumber=10002' 'FOO=test' 'firstname=testname' |
| 04:27 | so that works now | |
| 04:27 | mostly, I haven't tested it all | |
| 04:27 | but it gives you an API to add or update a borrower. | |
| 04:28 | (i.e. in this case, it updates the user with cardnumber 10002 to have an extended attribute 'FOO' with value 'test' and have a firstname 'testname') | |
| 04:28 | dcook | :D |
| 04:28 | upsert? | |
| 04:28 | eythian | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upsert :) |
| 04:29 | update/insert | |
| 04:29 | so if the borrower doesn't exist, it's created | |
| 04:29 | that's the bit I haven't tested yet | |
| 04:31 | but, I won't have time for that just now. | |
| 04:32 | dcook | I figured it would be update/insert |
| 04:32 | That's awesome | |
| 04:32 | Must be madness for non-English speakers | |
| 04:33 | eythian | quite possibly :) |
| 04:33 | anyway, I need to head off to training. Later. | |
| 04:34 | dcook | laters |
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| 06:15 | cait | eythian: around maybe? |
| 06:15 | hm too late i guess | |
| 06:56 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:56 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:56 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:56 | magnuse | @wunder rognan, norway |
| 06:56 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in FAUSKE, ved smabathavna., 8200 FAUSKE, Norway is -10.3°C (7:56 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:57 | magnuse | @wunder karasjok |
| 06:57 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -39.8°C (7:55 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -43.0°C. Windchill: -40.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:57 | magnuse | now that is pretty cold |
| 06:57 | @wunder kautokeino | |
| 06:58 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in ENONTEKIO, Norway is -37.0°C (8:50 AM EET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -42.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:42 | * cait | waves |
| 07:42 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:43 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.2°C (8:40 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:43 | cait | looks like more rain today, still so dark |
| 07:43 | bbiab | |
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| 07:50 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:51 | ashimema_ | morning #koha |
| 07:52 | boo, I missed cait | |
| 07:52 | @wunder stevenage, uk | |
| 07:52 | huginn | ashimema_: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 8.4°C (7:50 AM GMT on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:54 | fridolin | hie all |
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| 08:01 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:09 | * brian_ | slaps ashimema_ around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 08:13 | magnuse | @wunder karasjok |
| 08:13 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -39.6°C (9:10 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -43.0°C. Windchill: -40.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:14 | ashimema_ | ok.. that was wierd |
| 08:15 | morning magnuse | |
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| 08:16 | ashimema_ | morning cait |
| 08:18 | cait | morning ashimema :) |
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| 08:30 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 08:37 | cait | hi marcelr |
| 08:40 | marcelr | :) |
| 08:43 | magnuse | hiya cait marcelr ashimema_ kivilahtio et al |
| 08:43 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 08:43 | kivilahtio | ki ora magnuse |
| 08:44 | hmmm should i try to make it to the hackfest? | |
| 08:44 | magnuse | hmmm, yes you should |
| 08:44 | :-) | |
| 08:44 | kivilahtio | magnuse: we are planning to visit Oslo sometime next month |
| 08:44 | magnuse: so I am notsure how our travel fund allows me to get everywhere | |
| 08:45 | well... priorize | |
| 08:45 | I could optimize by flying to Oslo, then sleeping on somebodys couch for a month, then flying to Marseilles | |
| 08:45 | sounds like aplan! | |
| 08:50 | cait | hi magnuse hi kivilahtio |
| 08:52 | kivilahtio | hi cait |
| 08:52 | ha everybosdy | |
| 08:52 | hi wahanui | |
| 08:56 | Joubu | o/ |
| 08:58 | cait | Joubu: are you sure the time won't be given with dt_from_string? |
| 08:58 | it seems it always returns a datetime objec | |
| 08:58 | t | |
| 08:58 | when we only want a iso formatted date | |
| 08:59 | Joubu | cait: hum? I didn't understand |
| 08:59 | cait: did you see I submited a new patch? | |
| 08:59 | cait | yes |
| 08:59 | that shoudl fix the problem with the now | |
| 08:59 | wellc urrent date | |
| 09:00 | but i think we only want a date and it will give a datetime | |
| 09:00 | Joubu | h |
| 09:00 | aa | |
| 09:01 | cait | i tried to get it working before work this morning, but coudln't figure out how |
| 09:01 | thinking ther emust be an easy way to do this... like a best practice | |
| 09:02 | * Joubu | does not understand why it works... |
| 09:02 | cait | hm think it doesn't |
| 09:02 | try limiting the filters | |
| 09:03 | it didn't limit correctly when i tried this morning, but didn't explode either | |
| 09:03 | Joubu | cait: with the last patch, it seems to work. But it shouldn't |
| 09:03 | ashimema_ | Hackfest.. that reminds me, I must ook a hotel |
| 09:04 | nd let Paul know we're coming :) | |
| 09:04 | cait | who is we? :) |
| 09:06 | ashimema_ | So long as my scheming goes to plan, Alex will be about for the whole week, and Colin and I will each be around for 3 days of it. |
| 09:06 | though I haven't worked out whether Colin and I should be around at he same time or only overlap for a day | |
| 09:07 | cait | Joubu: i tried limiting to a specific year this morning and it didn't seem to work - the older year was still showing up - do the filters work for you? i changed around some things so not totally sure about my test |
| 09:12 | Joubu | cait: I will have a look again in a few minutes |
| 09:12 | cait | np |
| 09:13 | ... and could you check if accents/diacricits display for you correctly in a vendor showing in french? we see werid things happening there in 3.18 :( | |
| 09:17 | Joubu | cait: acqui/supplier.pl ? |
| 09:18 | cait | yep |
| 09:18 | the problem is, when i checked friday it was ok, today the coworker snt me the link and it's broken | |
| 09:18 | it goes away sometimes | |
| 09:18 | the problem | |
| 09:18 | wahanui | hmmm... the problem is that on order is not treated differently than the other not for loan values |
| 09:18 | cait | i hate things like this |
| 09:19 | first the template strings and the data (Bärbel as name for the contact) were broken- now the template strings show ok and only the database data is wrong... i am confused. | |
| 09:19 | /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/supplier.pl?booksellerid=2 | |
| 09:20 | Joubu | cait: it's broken here too |
| 09:20 | B�rbel | |
| 09:20 | cait | filing a slightly confused bug, sec |
| 09:21 | and thx for checking! | |
| 09:22 | Joubu | cait: it's a known bug |
| 09:22 | that's the main reason we need 11944... | |
| 09:22 | cait | do you know if there is a bug already? |
| 09:23 | Joubu | you need to escape the string with the html_entity TT filter in the template |
| 09:23 | cait | i filed bug 13555 |
| 09:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13555 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Encoding problems on the vendor summary and edit pages |
| 09:24 | cait | maybe we just ran into it now because we have been using mostly 3.12 so far |
| 09:24 | we are currently testing 3.18 | |
| 09:25 | Joubu | Actually, the known bug is that we sent an object to the template, and C4::Templates does not encode correctly data contained in objects |
| 09:26 | cait: so the bug should exist since bug 10402 is pushed | |
| 09:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10402 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add multiple contacts for vendors |
| 09:27 | cait | hm can't verify, but it might be |
| 09:28 | ashimema_ | bye #koha |
| 09:28 | ashimema | hello #koha |
| 09:28 | Joubu | lol |
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| 09:36 | grharry | Hello! Anybody using CAS for authentication out there ?? |
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| 09:49 | ashimema | matts about ^ |
| 09:50 | matts ignore that.. he's gone before he got an answer | |
| 09:50 | matts | maybe he'll come back :) |
| 09:52 | ashimema | perhaps |
| 09:53 | cait | phone conf bbl |
| 10:00 | kivilahtio | do we have a regret-button for item deletion? Librarians are reporting missing Items, but they seem to be simply deleted items. Culdn't find a bugzilal entry for "undoing item deletion"? |
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| 10:03 | kivilahtio | Also is tehre a feature to automatically show all results in the databasles? |
| 10:04 | Joubu | kivilahtio: "undo item deletion": I don't think so |
| 10:04 | kivilahtio | It would be nice if I wouldn't have to always select Show All Fields in the DT. |
| 10:04 | it is actualyl really annoying :( | |
| 10:05 | Joubu | There is nothing to show all results in a table (could be easy to do, but you certainly don't want to show all results for all tables) |
| 10:05 | kivilahtio | why not? Datatables receives all the data at once |
| 10:05 | Joubu | kivilahtio: did you try to do it using JS? |
| 10:05 | kivilahtio | nope |
| 10:05 | Joubu: I guess I could add a staff client javascript snippet | |
| 10:05 | Joubu | kivilahtio: not for all tables, some tables use ajax |
| 10:05 | kivilahtio | Joubu, hmm, ok |
| 10:07 | Joubu | kivilahtio: you can have a look at js/datatables.js |
| 10:07 | l.~28 | |
| 10:07 | kivilahtio | Joubu: thanks |
| 10:07 | Joubu | "iDisplayLength": 20 |
| 10:07 | try -1, but be careful for tables retrieving data in ajax (patrons search for instance) | |
| 10:08 | kivilahtio | Joubu: ok, we are still using 3.16.4 |
| 10:08 | Joubu: but will keep it in mind, maybe I'll just set it to 100 | |
| 10:08 | Joubu: shoudln't make any difference regarding patron search | |
| 10:08 | Joubu: unless it finds each patron one by one :) | |
| 10:09 | Also I could use the column sorting more | |
| 10:09 | I always forget it :( | |
| 10:11 | Joubu | kivilahtio: it will retrieve 100 patron data, instead of 20 :) |
| 10:11 | kivilahtio | Joubu: are you coming to the hackfest? |
| 10:11 | Joubu | kivilahtio: yes, of course |
| 10:11 | kivilahtio | nice |
| 10:11 | I am still meditationg on it | |
| 10:11 | Joubu | you should come :) |
| 10:11 | kivilahtio | I have a gut feeling management doen'st share my enthusiasm |
| 10:11 | Joubu | at least for the cheeses |
| 10:12 | kivilahtio | I cant eat cheese |
| 10:12 | Joubu | too bad |
| 10:12 | kivilahtio | not really |
| 10:12 | Joubu | So not sure you have a good reason to come :p |
| 10:13 | magnuse | marseille sans le fromage? noooo |
| 10:13 | kivilahtio | magnuse: milk is murder.. sorry guys |
| 10:15 | Joubu: I think I'll find something | |
| 10:31 | magnuse | ah milk-less cheese? we do have that, but it can't legally be called cheese |
| 10:31 | kivilahtio | magnuse: I agree |
| 10:31 | magnuse: and why should it? THere is a great pizzeria here, it's called "Roihu", they have the bestest dairy-free cheese | |
| 10:32 | magnuse: I guess it is simply because of habits that chesse is called chesse. | |
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| 11:07 | ashimema | we don't already track the client (i.e. machine) used to loging to the staff client at any point do we? |
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| 11:16 | ashimema | OK, another stupid question here.. especially as I should really know.. |
| 11:16 | kivilahtio | ashimema: we do |
| 11:16 | ashimema: check the session-table | |
| 11:16 | ashimema | why do we have both a user session, and a user env, and when should we use one or the other for what |
| 11:16 | kivilahtio | ashimema: it is a crazy mess but I think the data is there |
| 11:17 | ashimema | cheers kivi.. I had a feeling that 'might' be the case |
| 11:17 | kivilahtio | ashimema: cheers yourself! Cook something cool with it! |
| 11:19 | ashimema | that looks like it just records the IP rather than anything more specific to me.. |
| 11:19 | I need somthing that ties more directly to a machine than an IP which is often a full subnet of machines ;) | |
| 11:33 | kivilahtio | ashimema: no port? |
| 11:33 | ashimema | not that I can see |
| 11:37 | Hmm.. think I'll add a cookie, or localStorage to give a client a unique ID (and make it optional) | |
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| 12:25 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:26 | magnuse | kia ora tcohen |
| 12:27 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
| 12:27 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 12:27 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0°C (1:20 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -22.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:27 | * magnuse | moves to right in front of the fireplace |
| 12:27 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba argentina |
| 12:27 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 27.6°C (9:25 AM ART on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:28 | tcohen | @wunder SACO |
| 12:28 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 24.0°C (9:00 AM ART on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:29 | magnuse | @wunder karasjok |
| 12:29 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -37.9°C (1:25 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -42.0°C. Windchill: -38.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:29 | marcelr | did you move? |
| 12:30 | magnuse | nope, luckily :-) |
| 12:30 | it's just one of the coldest places in norway right now | |
| 12:31 | kivilahtio | ashimema: how about the CGISESSID. It is already unique regardless if the IP/port |
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| 12:32 | magnuse | hm, someone asked me to look at an indexing problem. i'm seeing "11:45:49-12/01 zebraidx(14570) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory]" which looks similar to bug 13396 |
| 12:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13396 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-rebuild-zebra: Couldn't open collection.abs error after 3.18 package update |
| 12:33 | magnuse | but i'm also getting "11:56:10-12/01 zebraidx(14570) [fatal] Out of memory - malloc (302080000 bytes)" |
| 12:33 | this is after a package upgrade to 3.18.2 | |
| 12:34 | there's ~80k records and 6GB memory, so that shouldn't really be a problem | |
| 12:34 | anyone got an inkling abut what that last error might be? | |
| 12:35 | tcohen | magnuse: IO problems? |
| 12:38 | magnuse | hm, found an email that suggests setting zebra_bib_index_mode = zebra_auth_index_mode = grs1 (i had it set to "dom"). trying that now |
| 12:38 | tcohen: possibly? | |
| 12:39 | tcohen | it is some misconfiguration on the files, carried between updates |
| 12:39 | you should try those two settings match your actual configuration | |
| 12:39 | but it doesnt make sense, because it is a zebra error | |
| 12:40 | well... those two are used by rebuild_zebra.pl.... | |
| 12:40 | what does the about page say? | |
| 12:40 | magnuse | tcohen: wht do you mean by "actual configuration"? |
| 12:40 | let me check | |
| 12:41 | tcohen | what koha-conf.xml points authorityserver and biblioserver to |
| 12:41 | if it was my own problem, I'd just recreate the instances with DOM and load the DB on it | |
| 12:43 | magnuse | ah, yes i better have a good look at koha-conf.xml |
| 12:44 | it's not my server, so i don't want to be too drastic :-) | |
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| 12:51 | jcamins | magnuse: sounds like an upgrade from a pretty old version? |
| 12:51 | 3.6ish, maybe? | |
| 12:52 | magnuse: there's a RAM limit that we increased at some point. | |
| 12:53 | magnuse | nah, i think it was from from 3.16, or maybe .14. definitely not as far back as 3.6 |
| 12:53 | jcamins | In that case, sounds like you have a weird record. |
| 12:53 | And, of course, you're indexing with DOM but exporting as GRS-1 or vice versa. | |
| 12:53 | The weirdness of the record may go away when you fix that. | |
| 12:54 | magnuse | register: /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/register:20G |
| 12:54 | shadow: /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow:20G | |
| 12:55 | jcamins | That's disk space. |
| 12:55 | I think what you want is toward the bottom. | |
| 12:55 | magnuse | setting zebra_bib_index_mode = zebra_auth_index_mode = grs1 "fixed", meaning no errors and search works again |
| 12:55 | jcamins | memMax |
| 12:55 | magnuse | memMax: 50M |
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| 12:55 | jcamins | Okay, so it was just seeming weird because it was exported for the wrong format. |
| 12:56 | magnuse | probably :-) |
| 12:56 | so does this mean there is a major problem with the upgrade to 3.18.x? | |
| 12:56 | at least for users coming from grs1? | |
| 12:56 | ashimema | kivilahtio: CGISESSID is session specific.. I want machine specific across sessions ;) i.e. one user can logout, and then another one login on the same machine.. but they should both get the same machine ID tracked between logins.. |
| 12:57 | CGISESSID wouldn't do that ;) | |
| 12:57 | jcamins | magnuse: a bit of a problem, yeah. |
| 12:57 | kivilahtio | ashimema: That sound like evil |
| 12:57 | ashimema | it's so I can persistently link a computer to a 'till' for our cash management work.. and may have some other uses later if people like it ;) |
| 12:57 | kivilahtio | ashimema: Google isn't evil :) |
| 12:58 | * magnuse | suspects ashimema of being hired by the fbi |
| 12:58 | ashimema | i'm writing the stuff now.. |
| 12:58 | kivilahtio | ashimema: what about the user who constantly clears his browser cookie cache? |
| 12:58 | ashimema | different here will be it's staff client only, and optional.. |
| 12:58 | FBI would want to trakc the enitre world for everything.. | |
| 12:58 | magnuse | :-) |
| 12:58 | kivilahtio | Now I know why we have this new feature in Koha which collect "anonymous" usage statistics from all Kohalibraries |
| 12:58 | ashimema | also. there's intentionally going to be no link between a user and a machine in this context.. |
| 12:59 | as much as I can obfuscate that of course | |
| 12:59 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I am calling the cops |
| 12:59 | ashimema | haha |
| 12:59 | kivilahtio | :) |
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| 12:59 | kivilahtio | gotta go get some lunch |
| 12:59 | before I reindex the WHOLE DB | |
| 12:59 | ashimema | yup.. there is indeed that user who clears they're cookies all the time.. for them, the 'convenience' of not having to select a 'till' at every login will be lost ;) |
| 13:00 | but that's their own fault.. i'm trying to not be too intrusive.. | |
| 13:00 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I see |
| 13:00 | ashimema: what is a 'till' | |
| 13:00 | ashimema | and yeah.. staff client only.. really a staff member should always assume they're being monitored at work ;) |
| 13:00 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I agree, we should be monitored |
| 13:00 | ashimema | a till in this case is the place you collect monies throughout the day. |
| 13:00 | kivilahtio | w eare getting paid to do our work after all |
| 13:01 | ashimema | haha. |
| 13:01 | kivilahtio | ashimema: like the cash register? |
| 13:01 | atleast i am | |
| 13:01 | ashimema | yup.. cash register, box under the desk, staffs memeber pocket.. |
| 13:01 | whereever you keep the money ;) | |
| 13:01 | s/staffs memeber/staff members/ | |
| 13:02 | it's for allowing a cash up at the end of the day ;) | |
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| 13:02 | ashimema | i.e patron x paid some money in today.. now where on earth did that money end up ;) |
| 13:02 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I understand |
| 13:03 | ashimema: we solved this by simply collecting all the money to one place, and than splitting it based on the capita | |
| 13:03 | ashimema: But you can tell from the action_logs/statistics -tables where the money was paid and for what purpose? | |
| 13:03 | ashimema | but such a cookie could also be used to increase staff client security (in a similar sort of way to the IP restrictions stuff).. i.e. the StaffClientID cookie must be present to allow a staff session to auth at all |
| 13:04 | kivilahtio | lunch |
| 13:04 | ashimema | the action_logs still don't give you a reliable physical location |
| 13:04 | ;) | |
| 13:04 | just a staff member and which session they took the transaction in.. as far as I know at least.. | |
| 13:05 | so if said staff member hot desks.. they may forget which till they attributed the money to before and after lunch.. if they're silly that is ;) | |
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| 13:22 | marcelr | Joubu: we talked about the dashboard recently: why is bug 8994 not listed with the oldest 10? note that its last status change is 2013-10-28. If the reason is that it is an enhancement, I think we should remove the filter on bugfix ? |
| 13:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8994 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Make FindDuplicateAuthority behaviour customizable |
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| 13:34 | magnuse | marcelr: i think you can send rangi a pull request? |
| 13:35 | marcelr | yeah probably; discussing it first |
| 13:36 | magnuse | https://github.com/Koha-Community/koha-dashboard |
| 13:36 | cool | |
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| 13:44 | cait | marcelr: i had asked rangi btw - he said it's always the oldest from change date - but I think it's not quite all to it |
| 13:44 | maybe resticted to bugs first? | |
| 13:45 | marcelr | i think we should see them all: bugfix and enhs and new features |
| 13:45 | oldest first | |
| 13:48 | cait | i am ok with bugs first, but showing enh too |
| 13:49 | but i think it does that, just th elogic is not totally clear to me | |
| 13:49 | marcelr | cait: SELECT bugs.bug_id,short_desc FROM bugs WHERE bug_status ='Needs Signoff' and bug_severity <> 'enhancement' and bug_severity <> 'new feature' ORDER by lastdiffed limit 10; |
| 13:49 | it removes enh and new feat; not sure what lastdiffed is | |
| 13:49 | could be different from lastchange | |
| 13:49 | cait | ah |
| 13:50 | that's the needs signoff? | |
| 13:50 | marcelr | yes |
| 13:50 | from the code | |
| 13:56 | ashimema | ack.. is that really the time.. |
| 13:56 | no wonder i'm really hungry | |
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| 14:00 | magnuse | ashimema: lunchtime? |
| 14:00 | wahanui | it has been said that lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting |
| 14:01 | magnuse | indeed it is |
| 14:11 | tcohen | khall: is it possible that you added the QA followup but forgot to sign+pass-qa on bug 13404? |
| 14:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13404 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , More »System information« about GRS1 vs DOM settings |
| 14:12 | khall | I filed to the followup to correct some koha-qa issues, but felt I was unable to test the patches properly in order to sign them |
| 14:12 | tcohen | oh, ok |
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| 14:22 | magnuse | kia ora nengard |
| 14:22 | nengard | hola magnuse |
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| 14:36 | gerundio | hi all |
| 14:37 | just got a request regarding setting up a koha installation for EBSCO's EDS | |
| 14:38 | just read some info about it from the April 2014 newsletter at http://koha-community.org/koha[…]april-2014/#ebsco | |
| 14:38 | and some more from https://github.com/ebsco/edsapi-koha-plugin | |
| 14:39 | somewhere in the github plugin page it reads: "use Patches folder to patch core Koha files and get greater integration." | |
| 14:39 | "patch Koha files" sounds bad | |
| 14:39 | any thoughts on this? | |
| 14:54 | cait | gerundio: sorry, we are not using it |
| 14:54 | ashimema: might know | |
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| 15:31 | gerundio | cait, nevertheless, patching koha core files is always a bad principle, right? |
| 15:38 | Joubu | gerundio: yes |
| 15:38 | Actually it depends what you patch | |
| 15:39 | if you have the ressources to maintain your own fork, you can do it | |
| 15:39 | gerundio | they do refer "and get greater integration", so I read it as it also works to some extent without the core patches |
| 15:48 | cait | Joubu: do you think it would be hard to allow a library to choose the on-site checkout due date? |
| 15:50 | Joubu | cait: What is the workflow? To reserve a on-site checkout? |
| 15:51 | cait | i have a library interested in the feature - but they store the items longer than a day for the users to use in the reading room |
| 15:51 | they have a special shelf | |
| 15:51 | so you can come back and continue working with the materials | |
| 15:51 | ashimema | it does indeed work to a decent extent without additional modifcation.. |
| 15:52 | there are also patches in koha now to prevent the need to modifying additional bits I beleive.. | |
| 15:52 | a colegue of mine does the implimentations of this though.. so I'm not exactly sure of the current state of affairs | |
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| 15:58 | cait | Joubu: i treid cheating by entering another date in the form... but it still calculates for the next day, so it's not that easy :) |
| 15:58 | i will file an enh request for them, maybe i will get to take a deeper look | |
| 16:04 | Joubu | cait: it should be too difficult to do, but yes you cannot cheat :) |
| 16:04 | cait | mean Joubu - made it so i can't cheat! :) |
| 16:04 | Joubu | cait: have a look at circ/circulation.pl l.163-165 |
| 16:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:05 | Joubu | the date is recalculated in the pl script if the onsite is checked |
| 16:05 | cait | working through notes from the phone conf today, will try to later! |
| 16:05 | ah | |
| 16:05 | more date magic... seems it's my fate | |
| 16:06 | Joubu | cait: actually, maybe this check could be removed, and keep the date filled by the user |
| 16:07 | cait: in summary, not difficult, but not trivial :) | |
| 16:08 | cait | should it be optional? |
| 16:10 | Joubu | I don't know, I would say no |
| 16:11 | cait | ah, thought it might have been a requirement |
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| 16:46 | ashimema | ack.. we do full page reloads far too often :( |
| 16:46 | * ashimema | again feels a need to get an angular patch in. |
| 16:46 | cait | hm question: the new item search uses sql, right? |
| 16:48 | i can#t get it to work so it finds lost statuses :( | |
| 16:49 | i configured it in administration for 952 1 with pull down LOST | |
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| 17:11 | cait | Joubu: still around? |
| 17:11 | you shouldn# be.. but who knows :) | |
| 17:16 | Joubu | cait: yep |
| 17:16 | cait | ah, trying to figure out the item search form |
| 17:17 | bug 13562 | |
| 17:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13562 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Item search: Not possible to add other search fields from 952? |
| 17:18 | Joubu | cait: do you think it's a bug? |
| 17:18 | cait | it's hard to tell |
| 17:18 | Joubu | cait: quite late now, I will take a look tomorrow :) |
| 17:18 | cait | there is no help |
| 17:18 | that's alright :) | |
| 17:18 | Joubu | at least to know if it's a bug or not |
| 17:18 | cait | yep |
| 17:19 | i will change it to an enh request if you have proof it's nt a bug ;) | |
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| 18:17 | bag | morning |
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| 18:41 | francharb | Hello all |
| 18:41 | Belated happy new year | |
| 18:43 | Is there a wiki page to know which status I should use when signing off? I worked on two patches, I have questions about them, which status should I use? "In discussion" ? | |
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| 19:38 | tcohen | @seen paul_p |
| 19:38 | huginn | tcohen: paul_p was last seen in #koha 4 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <paul_p> tcohen = it worked |
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| 19:52 | wizzyrea | in discussion is fine |
| 19:53 | rangi | if people are interested #kohaacademy is where the students will be hanging out |
| 19:55 | tcohen | rangi: cool |
| 19:55 | cait | cool :) |
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| 20:29 | rangi | this is the main koha channel |
| 20:29 | there are a couple of bots in here that are helpful | |
| 20:29 | and some that arent | |
| 20:29 | rangi? | |
| 20:29 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 20:29 | brandon | yum |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | @quote get 123 |
| 20:29 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 20:29 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 20:30 | cait | tcohen? |
| 20:30 | wahanui | i think tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | cait? |
| 20:30 | wahanui | i heard cait was from germany. Ask me about germany. |
| 20:30 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:30 | rangi | bug 7143 |
| 20:30 | wahanui | i guess bug 7143 is ready for an easy signoff |
| 20:30 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.1°C (9:25 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page | |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | germany? |
| 20:30 | wahanui | somebody said germany was where germs come from. Ask me about germs. |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | germs? |
| 20:30 | wahanui | germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | hehe hadn't gone down that particular path before. |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea? | |
| 20:30 | wahanui | you are silly |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | true. |
| 20:30 | cait | @eightball will we get snow tomorrow? |
| 20:30 | huginn | cait: You know the answer better than I. |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | wizzyrea? |
| 20:31 | wahanui | hmmm... wizzyrea is silly |
| 20:31 | cait | eythian? |
| 20:31 | wahanui | i guess eythian is Time's Person of the Year for 2006. |
| 20:31 | anonymous | internet? |
| 20:31 | wahanui | internet is not working here properly... I may disappear |
| 20:37 | cait | @marc 245 |
| 20:37 | huginn | cait: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] |
| 20:38 | cait | tcohen: no success with running the tests at all :( |
| 20:38 | tried on top of the utf-8 patches and only with the tests | |
| 20:40 | anonymous | fun? |
| 20:40 | wahanui | hmmm... fun is over, i'm switching back to drojf's usual tl:dr behaviour |
| 20:40 | anonymous | wahanui? |
| 20:40 | wahanui | anonymous? |
| 20:40 | anonymous | stop? |
| 20:41 | go? | |
| 20:41 | wahanui? | |
| 20:41 | wahanui | anonymous? |
| 20:41 | anonymous | hello? |
| 20:55 | tcohen | KOHA_USER=kohaadmin KOHA_PASS=katikoan KOHA_INTRANET_URL=http://koha-dev.biblioadmin KOHA_OPAC_URL=http://koha-dev.biblio prove -v t/db_dependent/www/auth_values_input_www.t |
| 20:55 | run it like that | |
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| 20:59 | cait | tcohen: seems better |
| 20:59 | tcohen: but i have a few falis | |
| 20:59 | fails | |
| 20:59 | on top of the utf-8 branch | |
| 21:00 | tcohen | what perl version? |
| 21:00 | cait | 5.18 i think |
| 21:00 | yep | |
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| 21:02 | jack | identify |
| 21:02 | == | |
| 21:03 | ==quit | |
| 21:03 | == end | |
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| 21:40 | eythian | hi |
| 21:40 | wahanui | kia ora, eythian |
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| 21:41 | eythian | cait: you called? |
| 21:41 | cait | yesterday? |
| 21:41 | wahanui | i think yesterday is almost over for me, and it's been pretty awful. |
| 21:41 | cait | i guess i wanted to ask something, but i have no idea what it was :) |
| 21:42 | eythian | OK, happy to have helped :) |
| 21:42 | dcook | hehe |
| 21:49 | rangi | i think we are beating the crap out of the git server |
| 21:50 | * dcook | usually uses repo.or.cz/w/koha.git for online browsing, and only hits the git server for the occasional pull |
| 21:50 | dcook | Could it be non git:// traffic? |
| 21:51 | rangi | naw its the academy students all cloning |
| 21:51 | it'll come right in the end | |
| 21:51 | dcook | Mmm |
| 21:51 | Yay academy! | |
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| 22:16 | brandon | bug 6473 |
| 22:16 | tom | bug 6473 |
| 22:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Test bug for Git-bz |
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| 22:17 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 22:17 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 13, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:17 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 22:17 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 21.0°C (9:00 AM AEDT on January 13, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:17 | dcook | Hmm |
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| 22:42 | rangi | first academy sign off |
| 22:42 | tcohen | git fetch timeout! |
| 22:43 | rangi | yeah it will take a while until their clones have finished tcohen |
| 22:43 | cait | yay :) |
| 22:44 | * tcohen | puts boundaries to his anxiety |
| 22:46 | eythian | rangi: we should have updated our local repo, I think we had this happen last year too. |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea | 2 years ago cjh came up with some git magic that made it a bit easier. |
| 22:48 | but I don't recall what it was. | |
| 22:48 | clone from the catalyst repo, then get updates from the community? I don't recall, something like that. | |
| 22:54 | tcohen | we might just use SSH |
| 22:55 | *could | |
| 22:56 | cait | night all |
| 22:56 | wahanui | goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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| 23:00 | eythian | hrm, so my script that I'm poking at takes ~1.3 seconds to run, of which 30ms is actually doing the actual processing. All the rest is init, mostly of C4::Members. |
| 23:01 | ...which takes over 500ms | |
| 23:01 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 23:03 | dcook | Boo C4::Members |
| 23:03 | eythian | we, in general, have _far_ too much stuff happening in module::BEGIN, rather than allowing things to lazily load when they're needed. |
| 23:04 | ...and most of C4::Members is looking at C4::Overdues (which I don't even need for this), but most of that is C4::Circulation (which I really don't need), but most of that is C4::Reserves (...) and so on down. | |
| 23:04 | dcook | :( |
| 23:05 | I was wondering about the module::BEGIN thing | |
| 23:05 | eythian | annoyingly, there's no one big blob that takes all the time that we could fix. |
| 23:05 | dcook | Yeah :( |
| 23:05 | To a degree, wouldn't it make sense to start breaking things down a bit into their own separate modules? | |
| 23:06 | Like how much of C4::Members is actually related to a "Member" object? | |
| 23:06 | eythian | ah yeah |
| 23:06 | that's happening with the move to Koha:: | |
| 23:06 | at least, it should be | |
| 23:06 | dcook | "should be" might be the operative phrase there.. |
| 23:07 | wizzyrea | progress is slow. |
| 23:07 | dcook | Mmm, but as for the lazy loading thing.. |
| 23:07 | What would be the way to optimally do that? | |
| 23:07 | eythian | I don't know |
| 23:08 | dcook | I figure you need to have a certain amount of module::BEGIN to load the modules you need... but it must take take for C4::Members to laod C4::Overdues to load C4::Circulation... |
| 23:09 | which wouldn't be necessary.. | |
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| 23:10 | eythian | yeah, it might just be that there are 'use's that aren't needed any more |
| 23:11 | or smaller modules so you don't have to load so much | |
| 23:11 | dcook | Yeah, I figure smaller modules would be a good one |
| 23:12 | There's a fair amount of stuff that just seems a bit weird to have in C4::Members.. | |
| 23:15 | wizzyrea | There's a fair amount of stuff that just seems a bit weird < probably more accurate |
| 23:15 | eythian | http://debian.koha-community.o[…]n/upsert/nytprof/ <-- here's the profile. the little "ma" at the right hand side is the code I actually wrote. |
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| 23:19 | dcook | Now that I think about it... isn't the idea with Plack that the modules get loaded once and then they don't need to be reloaded per script? |
| 23:20 | Wow, that's quite the laundry list of modules that you'd never ever need for this, eh? | |
| 23:20 | Well, maybe not a laundry list.. | |
| 23:21 | rangi | yeah eythian |
| 23:21 | right 2 signoffs, and one doesnt apply | |
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| 23:57 | eythian | dcook: yeah, plack helps with init time immensely |
| 23:59 | dcook | Huh... who knew that " as 'db' " was a MySQLism? |
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