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00:00 | mtj | sorry, off-topic ^ |
00:01 | bag | no worries |
00:01 | ok I'm back | |
00:01 | mtj | hiya, |
00:03 | bag | mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]te_Administration |
00:04 | mtj | bookmarked! |
00:05 | awesome, thanks | |
00:07 | wizzyrea/rangi, could you d00dz give me upload privs, to the download box? | |
00:07 | sorry to hassle... i'm keen to sort the release today | |
00:08 | before the weekend :p | |
00:10 | bag | mtj it's hobbit premiere weekend right? is anyone there working? |
00:11 | mtj | hey, i didnt even really know! |
00:11 | bag | heh ;) |
00:11 | mtj | im more of a harry potter guy myself... |
00:11 | bag | we are supposed to get bucket loads of rain tonight - so I'm concentrating on that |
00:11 | mtj | KIDDING!!?!? |
00:11 | bag | /kick mtj (just kidding) |
00:12 | mtj | its raining here too |
00:20 | hey wiz, thanks for sorting my WP account | |
00:20 | ..the doing the release publish too | |
00:27 | dcook | ... |
00:28 | I should double-check this on master, but on the Koha I'm looking at now... | |
00:28 | When you delete a biblio, it deletes entries from reserves, and sets biblionumber to null in old_reserves | |
00:29 | I can understand deleting a reserve... but an old_reserve should keep the biblionumber... | |
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00:53 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
00:53 | *ping* Anyone here? | |
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00:54 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Fresh Debian Git?!" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/316 |
00:55 | wajasu | i git it |
00:56 | mtompset | you git what? |
00:56 | Greetings, wajasu. | |
00:57 | wajasu | now maybe i can get the dbix schema loader test i wrote a year ago into test. |
00:57 | hopefully the schema is freindlier now. | |
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01:03 | mtompset | But what do you think of my paste, wajasu? |
01:09 | wizzyrea | mtj rangi is afk, and I've got to jet but I may get back to my desk a bit later. |
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01:09 | wajasu | as to what should or shoud not be required? what opts did you run your koha_perldeps.pl with? |
01:10 | tcohen | none is required for production |
01:11 | mtj | ta wizzyrea |
01:12 | hey, add a --prod arg to the script, would be handy ^ | |
01:12 | dcook | wajasu: dbix schema loader sux :p |
01:12 | mtj | a prod/test option, for the script? |
01:13 | dcook | It'll be a good day when we no longer have to use the schema loader |
01:13 | * dcook | also waves to tcohen :) |
01:13 | mtompset | tcohen: The DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader is required. |
01:13 | And the default version is LOWER than the listed requirement. | |
01:14 | oh, it's not required for production? | |
01:15 | Then the "required" isn't smart enough. :) | |
01:19 | wajasu | i wish we had a version smart script that: let us put versions with <= >= == for specified targets (squeeze, squeeze-test, jessie, jessie-test, ubunti-???, and would output debian.packages and such. |
01:19 | dev, test, prod | |
01:21 | mtompset | All I know is that the cleanness of our fresh installs has fallen back a bit, because of things like this. :) |
01:21 | (requirements not being high enough versions from default repos) | |
01:24 | wajasu | it was this that i played with a year ago. https://metacpan.org/pod/Test:[…]Ix::Class::Schema |
01:25 | i wanted to get so unit tests in for the DBIx layer. one might just write their own similiar tests at some point. | |
01:28 | mtompset | I succeeded at getting Test::DBIx::Class into Jessie the other day, and Ubuntu 14.04 another. I could get it into Ubuntu 12.04. |
01:28 | ^could^couldn't^ | |
01:29 | wajasu | i even had the author patch it for me. see issue https://github.com/chiselwrigh[…]s-schema/issues/8 |
01:29 | man. that was sept 28th 2012. | |
01:29 | time sure flies. | |
01:31 | you might try writing a similiar test class that might cater to our environment to forego the added dependency. | |
01:48 | dcook | wizzyrea: eythian still at kiwicon, eh? |
01:49 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha dcook wajasu mtj |
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01:53 | dcook | Anyone else familiar with packages around? |
01:53 | I haven't used the Koha deb packages in ages, but I recall that you can specify your own root password | |
01:54 | But koha-create and such are able to bypass that to create new users... | |
01:56 | wajasu | i only recall that you can specify -use-db if you create the db manually |
01:58 | dcook | Aha |
01:58 | --defaults-extra-file=/etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf | |
02:00 | I recalled eythian saying long ago that there was a tricksy way of doing it | |
02:09 | Not sure how the koha-common.cnf file is created... just that it's a clone of debian.cnf | |
02:09 | koha-common.postinst: ln -s debian.cnf "$conf" | |
02:09 | there we go | |
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02:36 | wajasu | you good |
02:36 | package building is a twisty little maze of passages | |
02:40 | dcook | And I'm not even package building :) |
02:40 | Using Chef to set up an environment for Koha on AWS | |
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03:14 | wajasu | cool |
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04:35 | dcook | Yikes... that AWS instance took 30 minutes to install, and that was the most vanilla instance I could make |
04:35 | No customization at all | |
04:37 | The customized instance was... 3:46 to 3:53... so 7 minutes | |
04:38 | I suppose Ubuntu's servers could've slowed it down... | |
04:38 | Internet connection between them at least playing up.. | |
05:14 | Hmm, it would be good if the source install of Koha matched the Debian package model more.. | |
05:14 | Actually, maybe it does if you do the FHS option for the source install | |
05:15 | I guess even then it wouldn't quite | |
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06:45 | dcook | yo cait |
06:45 | cait | yo dcook |
07:14 | * magnuse | waves |
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07:41 | reiveune | hello |
07:41 | wahanui | que tal, reiveune |
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08:03 | alex_a | bonjour |
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08:32 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:32 | wahanui | bidet, gaetan_B |
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08:48 | AmitG | Hi Robin |
08:48 | Robin around? | |
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09:04 | nlegrand | hey #koha |
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09:33 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
09:33 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
09:33 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.14.x_U12 build #50: FIXED in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.14.x_U12/50/ |
09:33 | Fridolin Somers: Bug 12405 - Search links on callnumber fails on intranet results page | |
09:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12405 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Search links on callnumber fails on intranet results page |
10:21 | * ashimema | is on a bug opening spree |
10:22 | ashimema | AmitG, assuming you mean eythian I don't think we're in his awake time for his time zone at the moment mate.. |
10:22 | and.. he's at kiwicon this week.. so may not be monitoring here regardless of timezone issues ;) | |
10:23 | @later tell bag awesome man, colins on leave now till early next week.. but if I get a chance I'll take a look myself. | |
10:23 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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13:02 | cait | anyone around using RFID or 'self return'? |
13:03 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
13:06 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
13:11 | drojf | cait: not yet |
13:11 | but my raspi reads rfid now | |
13:11 | :) | |
13:12 | cait | i am looking for a nice solution to filter out the items that need to go on the hold sshelf |
13:12 | from the return cart | |
13:12 | and a solution for: cannot be checked out at the self check | |
13:12 | but at the circulation desk | |
13:12 | if i use a nfl value... you can't put holds on it | |
13:13 | a separate itemtype with 0 max checkouts and override at the circ desk? also a bit clumsy | |
13:15 | drojf | hm yes that seems odd for day to day use |
13:15 | cait | and the items are different |
13:15 | some are cds with too much metal apparently - so the rfid tags won't work | |
13:16 | drojf | so you already have a solution for cannot be checked out at self check :P |
13:17 | i thought you wanted to prevent that ;) | |
13:17 | cait | heh |
13:17 | well it's one of the things, but some have to go over the circ desk for other reaosns | |
13:20 | druthb | cait++ |
13:20 | drojf | druthb! |
13:20 | cait | so i get karma for not having a good solution? |
13:20 | hmpf. | |
13:20 | druthb | drojf! |
13:20 | You get karma for being cait. | |
13:21 | cait | hmpf |
13:21 | drojf | maybe ask me again once i am through gazillion rfid papers i just gathered ;) |
13:21 | *a | |
13:21 | cait | keep it in mind then :) |
13:22 | drojf | i can read and write to a tag. but no idea what to put there yet :D |
13:25 | cait | what data model is on the tag? danish? |
13:26 | drojf | none yet. i am trying to find out how the danish one works. i have a basic idea. since i am not going to buy the iso documents for a few hundred bucks i'll have to read around a bit i guess |
13:29 | are these things encrapted these days? otherwise i should probably just get a book from a library and have a look :) | |
13:30 | cait | i wonder if you could put a flag on the tag itself - not for self check |
13:30 | oleonard | Anyone have anything they're dying for me to look at before I disappear for the rest of the year? |
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13:34 | drojf | cait: there is a "ausleihstatus" tag with "ausleihbar" and "präsenz" (among others), but there may be better options. and of course i don't know what self check machines make out of that |
13:37 | cait | me neither, but the message might b better than when you tinker with the circ rules |
13:37 | if the self check says max checkouts reached... and it's supposed to mean you can check it out at the circ desk? | |
13:37 | oleonard: you go on vacation? | |
13:37 | until january!? :) | |
13:38 | oleonard | Yup. Working today and Monday, and then off. |
13:39 | Saved up vacation for a summer trip and then never took one. Now I've got to use it or lose it. | |
13:42 | cait | aah |
13:42 | i am not aware of something - but i am behind reading bug mail | |
13:45 | carmenh | Good morning /good afternoon/ good evening #koha :D … |
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13:46 | magnuse | oleonard: good for you! :-) |
13:49 | mveron | Hi #koha |
13:49 | drojf | hi mveron :) |
13:50 | mveron | hi drojf :-) |
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13:53 | cait | hi mveron |
13:53 | :) | |
13:53 | mveron | hi cait :-) |
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15:21 | mveron | cait and drojf: Do you have similar translation problems? "Ändern Kind Benutzer Hansli Meier" or "Ändern Erwachsener Benutzer Henry Acevedo" |
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15:22 | mveron | in Start › Benutzer › Henry Acevedo › Ändern Erwachsener Benutzer |
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15:23 | cait | mveron: the probem is, i think, the way the breadcrumbs are built |
15:24 | mveron | cyit: ...and the H1 titles... |
15:24 | cait | i think it#s one of the cases where the sentence is if elsed together, there are some of those in patrons |
15:24 | yeah | |
15:24 | i meant to clean that up ages ago - never got to it :( | |
15:24 | mveron | cait: Yes, it looks very complicated... |
15:24 | cait | there also some not so nice headingson the patron form |
15:24 | i once started but got too confused | |
15:25 | * mveron | was confused too... |
15:25 | cait | but that was pre TT :) |
15:25 | mveron | cait: I will file a bug - pro memoria |
15:25 | cait | i think "Benutzer Hansli Maier (Kind) bearbeiten" could look better |
15:26 | mveron | Yes, indeed... |
15:26 | cait | i wonder if it wouldn't be nicer to display the patron category instead... but not sure |
15:26 | (Student) :) | |
15:32 | mveron | cait: An other problem for multi language countries is the translation of patron categories, we would need e.g. "Kind" or "Enfant" depending on the selected language... |
15:32 | cait | hm? |
15:33 | but doesn#t it do that? | |
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15:33 | drojf | sorry i was shopping :) |
15:33 | mveron | cait: Oh, I will try! |
15:33 | cait | i think it shows the "category" so what you pick in the pull down in the patron category - that should (in theory) be translatable :) |
15:35 | but the sequence is still... :( | |
15:36 | drojf | when i try to add a new patron the categories show up in german even when i switch to english. or do you mean something else? |
15:40 | mveron | drojf: Yes. It takes the Category name (Kind,Jugendlicher etc. as set in Patron category administration), not the type (both have the type "child/kind = translated"). |
15:41 | So we should be able to give translations in Patron category adminsitration. | |
15:42 | Something like "Category name: 'Kid|Kind|Enfant'" | |
15:51 | cait | hm i am confused now |
15:51 | i am pretty sure Kind is not from the database - unless you named your patron category so? | |
15:52 | oh | |
15:52 | reading back it makes sense no, never mind | |
15:54 | mveron | I foeld Bug 13450 |
15:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13450 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Title and breadcrumb of Patron form can look weird in translations |
15:54 | mveron | filed... |
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15:54 | cait | it's getting late, we should call it a weekend :) |
15:57 | mveron | cait: What are you going to cook? |
15:58 | cait | hm not sure yet :) |
15:59 | maybe i will buy soemthing on the christmas market - i have spanish class tonight | |
15:59 | ashimema | hwos the kitchen now you've had it a while cait.. |
15:59 | still enjoying cooking? | |
15:59 | mveron | I can suggest something very fast: http://youtu.be/lkaIoH6Um60 |
15:59 | :-) | |
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16:00 | cait | the kitchen is perfect, but i didn't have much time for cooking lately :( |
16:01 | especially having a real oven is great | |
16:01 | mveron | hmm, maybe cait's kitchen would be too small for my suggestion... |
16:01 | cait | def :) |
16:04 | drojf | when you have to clean the kitchen yourself afterwards it's not that fast, alltogether ;) |
16:04 | cait | ok, time to leave :) |
16:04 | bye all | |
16:04 | oleonard | Bye cait |
16:08 | bag | @seen ashimema |
16:08 | huginn | bag: ashimema was last seen in #koha 9 minutes and 13 seconds ago: <ashimema> still enjoying cooking? |
16:08 | bag | sweet thanks ashimema |
16:08 | cait | oleonard: have a nice vacation :) |
16:09 | ashimema | :) |
16:09 | bag | have a nice vacation oleonard |
16:10 | * oleonard | is still here through Monday |
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16:16 | reiveune | bye |
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16:18 | martinmorris | Good morning, I sent an email to the koha-translate mailing list recently asking for a new language to be added. Anybody here connected with that? Just that it hasn’t been added and I wondered if I could help in any way? |
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16:20 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
16:20 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Why do my tests fail on master? (prove -r t)" (30 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/319 |
16:21 | mtompset | How do I install all the default data? |
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16:26 | mtompset | Okay, Holidays debugged. |
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16:39 | mveron | martinmorris:Normally it is done very quickly. Maybe you should send a gentle reminder to the koha-translate mailing ist. Oh, Esperanto! Nice! |
16:39 | martinmorris | Great, thanks mveron! And yes, should be a fun translation (and necessary for our group). |
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16:49 | gaetan_B | bye |
16:57 | martinmorris | I remember that I have another really odd question. I’m using 3.16, in Firefox on OS X Yosemite, and the US Extended character set. In the staff interface (and not the OPAC, nor anywhere else), when typing alt+u (for example, to type ä or ü), the brower goes to the checkout screen and beeps at me. I can’t see an obvious setting to change this. |
17:00 | jcamins | martinmorris: yeah, that's really annoying. I used JavaScript to disable it. |
17:00 | * mveron | has to run... |
17:01 | martinmorris | Very annoying! Can you tell me how you did that? |
17:01 | mveron | Good daytime everybody! |
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17:02 | jcamins | Yeah, very easy: Nvmophylacivm Mansbergianvm: Qvod collegit Anthon Adam a Mansberg, Regis Magnæ Britanniæ ... |
17:02 | Uhhh... no, not that... | |
17:02 | oleonard | jcamins is up to black magic again |
17:02 | jcamins | shortcut.remove('Alt+r'); shortcut.remove('Alt+u'); shortcut.remove('Alt+q'); |
17:03 | bag | bug 13023 |
17:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13023 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Nonpublic note for items should be mapped to a database column like itemnotes |
17:03 | martinmorris | and I add that to the relevant pages? |
17:03 | (I’m not a programmer at all!) | |
17:05 | jcamins | jquery library? |
17:05 | wahanui | jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
17:05 | jcamins | Follow the instructions on that page. |
17:05 | martinmorris | lovely, thanks jcamins! |
17:05 | jcamins | It goes inside $(document).ready(function () { ... }); in intranetuserjs. |
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17:07 | yhager | I think overdue email lists all checkouts, not only overdue ones. Is this a known issue (3.18.1)? |
17:08 | martinmorris | works a treat, thanks so much! |
17:09 | jcamins | You're welcome. I spend a surprising amount of time on Fridays typing umlauts, so the shortcut really got in the way. |
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17:09 | jcamins | I rarely need to type 'œ', but it has happened, actually. |
17:11 | yhager | bug #13035 looks very similar to what I see, but it was handled 2 months ago... |
17:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13035 major, P5 - low, ---, rkopaczka, Pushed to Master , Overdue notices send notices for due date in future. |
17:34 | yhager | I also have this in my cron results, not sure it's related: Use of uninitialized value $borrowernumber in string eq at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 544. |
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18:26 | tcohen | hi |
18:26 | wahanui | hola, tcohen |
18:27 | drojf | hi tcohen |
18:41 | jcamins | drojf: any idea what "insgemein" meant in 1778? |
18:43 | drojf | jcamins: it's an old version of 'insgesamt', meaning altogether, overall |
18:43 | jcamins | Ah-ha! |
18:43 | Thanks. | |
18:45 | oleonard | Ah so that's why you stick around jcamins ;) |
18:46 | jcamins | oleonard: yep. Where else would I get instant translations from German, French, and Spanish? |
18:46 | drojf | heh |
18:48 | * oleonard | waits for magnuse to object |
18:48 | jcamins | oleonard: I rarely have any Norwegian that needs translation. |
18:48 | * oleonard | waits for magnuse to object again! |
18:48 | jcamins | oleonard: though, actually, I guess I have had to ask magnuse to translate things once or twice. |
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19:34 | cait | drojf: you stole my german question! |
19:35 | drojf | you said you'd be doing spanish tonight :) |
19:36 | cait | if i can't help jcamins with the trnslations, he might stop to answer all my zebra questions! :) |
19:38 | * oleonard | pictures jcamins conversing with zebras |
19:40 | jcamins | Hehe. |
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19:42 | drojf | zebrew? |
19:42 | cait | heh |
19:43 | mtompset | A zebra whisperer? :) |
19:58 | oleonard | Have a good weekend, #koha |
20:02 | cait | bag: i think our comments overlapped on bug 13023 |
20:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13023 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Nonpublic note for items should be mapped to a database column like itemnotes |
20:02 | bag | yeah I just reposted mine |
20:03 | it's up to kyle now ;) | |
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20:22 | yhager | is there a way to get patron list sorted by surname by default (and not by card # as it is today) |
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21:50 | magnuse | bag: HI |
21:50 | bag | magnuse: hi |
21:50 | wahanui | que tal, bag |
21:50 | * magnuse | wanders off to converse with norwegian zebras |
21:55 | tcohen | hi |
21:57 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. |
21:57 | I had fun cleaning up some tests. | |
21:58 | 13451, 13453, 13455, and 13456. | |
21:58 | tcohen | mtompset: I noticed! |
21:59 | mtompset | Noisy tests makes it hard to test MY code. |
22:00 | tcohen | mtompset: I'd like to see more unit tests, db-independent ones, with mocked stuff |
22:01 | mtompset | Someone else can do that. I just fixing what is there. :) |
22:01 | tcohen | mtompset++ |
22:06 | bag | heya tcohen |
22:06 | tcohen | hi bag |
22:08 | * cait | waves |
22:09 | tcohen | hi cait! |
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22:29 | * mtompset | grumbles about Reserves.t, SIP_ILS.t, and www/batch.t |
22:30 | mtompset | Well, 5 out of 8 is good enough for today, right? :) |
22:48 | tcohen | @later tell paul_p I got addicted to some candies you brought, shame on you! |
22:48 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
22:49 | cait | :) |
22:50 | mtompset | tcohen: Hmmm... I've been trying to figure out the www/batch.t problem... And it isn't loading the table data. |
22:50 | Which is why the test fails. | |
22:50 | Did we change tables on the import MARC page? | |
22:51 | tcohen | do u have it set correctly? |
22:51 | mtompset | i'm thinking the underlying technology requires some jquery callback to trigger a table refresh or something, which doesn't happen in Test::WWW::Mechanize |
22:51 | tcohen | (the vhost name, etc) |
22:52 | mtompset | the intranet one is, and that's the test that is failing. ;) |
22:52 | I think. | |
22:53 | How do I check? | |
22:55 | tcohen | ah, we added the template name as a comment |
22:56 | mtompset: is this what you see? http://snag.gy/1xxiI.jpg | |
22:57 | mtompset | Yes. |
22:58 | I did a print STDERR $agent->content(), and there is no <td> data. | |
23:05 | tcohen | mtompset: will you fix it? |
23:05 | mtompset | I don't know how to fix it. |
23:05 | If the page returned the table data, then there wouldn't be any problems. | |
23:07 | If you recall, we've been going through and converting data tables. | |
23:07 | from one thing to another. | |
23:07 | And that has broken this. | |
23:07 | That's my guess. | |
23:12 | tcohen | it seems so |
23:25 | mtompset | Anyways... i need to run. |
23:25 | Have a great weekend, #koha. | |
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